Thanks for all replies. I have come across other family lines who arrived with the Marie Warmbauer's group who also claim there is native American in their line from the same region as Conrad Hoak. Neff's and Nace's to particular. Its not so far fetched to at least ponder the possibility.I remember reading somewhere that these unions did take place but the Indian was gi ven a Christian name so it is very often impossible to identify them. I am more concerned with identifying the individuals than I am chasing rumors but you know we have to keep an open mind. ... whole genome testing WILL identify all lines in your ancestry as to ethnicity/Race. Has anyone on list ever had this done? If so, I'm sure it was pretty expensive. Melissa