Conrad Hoak is given as one of the original 1711 land patent holders who arrived with Madame Marie Ferree. I have not been able to locate any other records on this man or his family. I descend from a Johannes Hage s/o dec'd Conrad who married a Catharine Frey d/o dec'd Johannes Frey in Cocalico Twp by Rev Waldschmit in 1781. According to Johanne's head stone at St Lukes Cemetery in Chanceford Twp. York Co he died in 1811 in his 56 th year. This would make him born about 1754-55. He and Catharine settled in York Co in 1787 after Catharine Frey's step father, Benedict Bucher Sr died. Her mother is left 200 pounds (including the 60 pounds of John Heck _.... I feel certain that this family is tied to Strasburg/Conestoga Hage's. As many Hages married into the Bowman lines as well as Schenk's.Christian Schenk's daughter Barbara born abt 1702 was widow of John Bowman. A few months after John's passing she married second a Conrad Hoke in Aug 1761. He would have been about the right age for the original Conrad mentioned above. At their age no issue would have been probable but I have to believe that Conrad was married before. There is a rumor through the family lines, even very distant cousins have hear it, that we have Native American Indian in our line. Is it possible that he may have taken a Indian girl as a bride? They were peaceable in the beginning. Would any records of children born to such an union been recorded back then? Wm Penn wrote in his early accounts of the Susquehannock Indian's that they were giants. My great grand father William Hake died in 1897 and was the tallest man in York Co at 7' 2" He was buried along the river at Long Level's Ebeneezer UM Church cemetery. As the river has flooded the grave yard in previous years very few headstones remain. Any clues, ideas, lookups etc would be appreciated. I have had to give up my Ancestry subscription ( didn't locate anything there on him anyway). Thanks for reading, Melissa

Melissa...you wrote: There is a rumor through the family lines, even very distant cousins have hear it, that we have Native American Indian in our line. Is it possible that he may have taken a Indian girl as a bride? It's not probable. Those family rumors go on and on and on. Many people have had their DNA done to determine their ethnic background only to find they're 100% Northern European. On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 1:33 AM, <MyRootz2@aol.com> wrote: > > Conrad Hoak is given as one of the original 1711 land patent holders who > arrived with Madame Marie Ferree. > I have not been able to locate any other records on this man or his family. > I descend from a Johannes Hage s/o dec'd Conrad who married a Catharine > Frey d/o dec'd Johannes Frey in Cocalico Twp by Rev Waldschmit in 1781. > > According to Johanne's head stone at St Lukes Cemetery in Chanceford Twp. > York Co he died in 1811 in his 56 th year. This would make him born about > 1754-55. He and Catharine settled in York Co in 1787 after Catharine > Frey's > step father, Benedict Bucher Sr died. Her mother is left 200 pounds > (including the 60 pounds of John Heck _.... > > I feel certain that this family is tied to Strasburg/Conestoga Hage's. As > many Hages married into the Bowman lines as well as Schenk's.Christian > Schenk's daughter Barbara born abt 1702 was widow of John Bowman. A few > months > after John's passing she married second a Conrad Hoke in Aug 1761. He > would > have been about the right age for the original Conrad mentioned above. At > their age no issue would have been probable but I have to believe that > Conrad was married before. > > There is a rumor through the family lines, even very distant cousins have > hear it, that we have Native American Indian in our line. Is it possible > that he may have taken a Indian girl as a bride? They were peaceable in > the > beginning. Would any records of children born to such an union been > recorded > back then? > > Wm Penn wrote in his early accounts of the Susquehannock Indian's that > they were giants. My great grand father William Hake died in 1897 and was > the > tallest man in York Co at 7' 2" He was buried along the river at Long > Level's Ebeneezer UM Church cemetery. As the river has flooded the grave > yard in > previous years very few headstones remain. > > Any clues, ideas, lookups etc would be appreciated. I have had to give up > my Ancestry subscription ( didn't locate anything there on him anyway). > > Thanks for reading, > Melissa > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PALANCAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My family had one of those rumors. Our DNA test showed no Native American but a strong line of Eastern European while I had been able to find mostly Western European in my paper trail. But I was going back to only immigration and if you think about it, lots of migration has taken place in Europe over history. I still haven't found any Hungararian/Romanian people but Pennsylvania Dutch and Irish could be quite a mixture in general. I have read about those "Dark German" that no one knows exactly why they are dark. So my high cheek bones have another origin that time will tell as I continue to dig. On Jan 6, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Brownie MacKie wrote: > Melissa...you wrote: There is a rumor through the family lines, > even very > distant cousins have > hear it, that we have Native American Indian in our line. Is it > possible > that he may have taken a Indian girl as a bride? > > It's not probable. Those family rumors go on and on and on. Many > people > have had their DNA done to determine their ethnic background only to > find > they're 100% Northern European. > > > On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 1:33 AM, <MyRootz2@aol.com> wrote: > >> >> Conrad Hoak is given as one of the original 1711 land patent >> holders who >> arrived with Madame Marie Ferree. >> I have not been able to locate any other records on this man or his >> family. >> I descend from a Johannes Hage s/o dec'd Conrad who married a >> Catharine >> Frey d/o dec'd Johannes Frey in Cocalico Twp by Rev Waldschmit in >> 1781. >> >> According to Johanne's head stone at St Lukes Cemetery in >> Chanceford Twp. >> York Co he died in 1811 in his 56 th year. This would make him >> born about >> 1754-55. He and Catharine settled in York Co in 1787 after Catharine >> Frey's >> step father, Benedict Bucher Sr died. Her mother is left 200 pounds >> (including the 60 pounds of John Heck _.... >> >> I feel certain that this family is tied to Strasburg/Conestoga >> Hage's. As >> many Hages married into the Bowman lines as well as >> Schenk's.Christian >> Schenk's daughter Barbara born abt 1702 was widow of John Bowman. >> A few >> months >> after John's passing she married second a Conrad Hoke in Aug 1761. >> He >> would >> have been about the right age for the original Conrad mentioned >> above. At >> their age no issue would have been probable but I have to believe >> that >> Conrad was married before. >> >> There is a rumor through the family lines, even very distant >> cousins have >> hear it, that we have Native American Indian in our line. Is it >> possible >> that he may have taken a Indian girl as a bride? They were >> peaceable in >> the >> beginning. Would any records of children born to such an union been >> recorded >> back then? >> >> Wm Penn wrote in his early accounts of the Susquehannock Indian's >> that >> they were giants. My great grand father William Hake died in 1897 >> and was >> the >> tallest man in York Co at 7' 2" He was buried along the river at Long >> Level's Ebeneezer UM Church cemetery. As the river has flooded the >> grave >> yard in >> previous years very few headstones remain. >> >> Any clues, ideas, lookups etc would be appreciated. I have had to >> give up >> my Ancestry subscription ( didn't locate anything there on him >> anyway). >> >> Thanks for reading, >> Melissa >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PALANCAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PALANCAS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message