Dear Fellow Listers, Research regarding Grace Lutheran Church, Lancaster, has included my re-visit to the burial site of an early and important pastor, The Rev. C. Elvin Haupt, at Greenwood Cemetery, Lancaster. Immediately behind his grave marker is another, bronze and flat to the ground, of one Rev. Samuel Shirey and wife Helen H. Shirey. He died 25 January 1987, she on 21 Feb. 1987, though death dates of neither were ever added to the bronze cemetery marker that was obviously placed there in anticipation of their deaths. I've been told that "perhaps" they died somewhere in Maryland, but I cannot come up with specifics. I cannot identify these people, though the proximity of their graves to that of Pr. Haupt and his wife prompts a question about some sort of family relationship. It appears that Rev. Shirey was not a Lutheran pastor, nor does the Historical Society of the Evangelical and Reformed Church identify him as a Reformed Church pastor. Can anyone identify these people and help with with information? Indeed, it seems sad that their death dates are not included on their grave marker, and short of finding family to do so, I've wondered about doing so myself, if no other option seems possible, though perhaps the denomination in which Rev. Shirey was a clergyman might take over on that, too. Your well would be much appreciated. Dr. Karl E. Moyer 1309 Passey Lane Lancaster PA

Could Samuel be the son of this pastor? http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~papastor/2r/reed_s_shirey.htm Karl Moyer wrote: > Dear Fellow Listers, > > Research regarding Grace Lutheran Church, Lancaster, has included my > re-visit to the burial site of an early and important pastor, The Rev. C. > Elvin Haupt, at Greenwood Cemetery, Lancaster. > > Immediately behind his grave marker is another, bronze and flat to the > ground, of one Rev. Samuel Shirey and wife Helen H. Shirey. He died 25 > January 1987, she on 21 Feb. 1987, though death dates of neither were ever > added to the bronze cemetery marker that was obviously placed there in > anticipation of their deaths. I've been told that "perhaps" they died > somewhere in Maryland, but I cannot come up with specifics. > > I cannot identify these people, though the proximity of their graves to > that of Pr. Haupt and his wife prompts a question about some sort of family > relationship. It appears that Rev. Shirey was not a Lutheran pastor, nor > does the Historical Society of the Evangelical and Reformed Church identify > him as a Reformed Church pastor. > > Can anyone identify these people and help with with information? > Indeed, it seems sad that their death dates are not included on their grave > marker, and short of finding family to do so, I've wondered about doing so > myself, if no other option seems possible, though perhaps the denomination > in which Rev. Shirey was a clergyman might take over on that, too. > > Your well would be much appreciated. > > Dr. Karl E. Moyer > 1309 Passey Lane > Lancaster PA > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.6/1797 - Release Date: 11/18/2008 11:23 AM > >

Karl, On the SSDI I get this: Helen H. Shirey - b. 27 Apr 1904 d. Feb 1987 - last residence was Glen Burnie, Anne Arundel Co, MD Samuel Shirey b. 18 Aug 1903 and d. Jan 1987 in Baltimore, Baltimore City, MD. Perhaps if you have an Ancestry.com subscription you could check the obits of the Washington Post and the Baltimore Sun for them. Sorry I couldn't do more, my subscription lapsed and I am expecting another in my stocking this year. Blessings, Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl Moyer" <[email protected]> To: "Lancaster County-L" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 2:33 PM Subject: [PALANCAS] Rev. Samuel Shirey 1902-1987 > Dear Fellow Listers, > > Research regarding Grace Lutheran Church, Lancaster, has included my > re-visit to the burial site of an early and important pastor, The Rev. C. > Elvin Haupt, at Greenwood Cemetery, Lancaster. > > Immediately behind his grave marker is another, bronze and flat to the > ground, of one Rev. Samuel Shirey and wife Helen H. Shirey. He died 25 > January 1987, she on 21 Feb. 1987, though death dates of neither were ever > added to the bronze cemetery marker that was obviously placed there in > anticipation of their deaths. I've been told that "perhaps" they died > somewhere in Maryland, but I cannot come up with specifics. > > I cannot identify these people, though the proximity of their graves to > that of Pr. Haupt and his wife prompts a question about some sort of > family > relationship. It appears that Rev. Shirey was not a Lutheran pastor, nor > does the Historical Society of the Evangelical and Reformed Church > identify > him as a Reformed Church pastor. > > Can anyone identify these people and help with with information? > Indeed, it seems sad that their death dates are not included on their > grave > marker, and short of finding family to do so, I've wondered about doing so > myself, if no other option seems possible, though perhaps the denomination > in which Rev. Shirey was a clergyman might take over on that, too. > > Your well would be much appreciated. > > Dr. Karl E. Moyer > 1309 Passey Lane > Lancaster PA > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I found the same information as Janet in the SSDI (on Ancestry). I did some searches in newspaperarchive.com and only found one article that seems to have any possibility at all of matching. Samuel Marty Shirey Jr. died in 1976. His obit is listed in a Pennsylvania newspaper. His parents are listed as Samuel M Shirey and Helen Suter Shirey. Grandparents are Mr. and Mrs. Samuel Shirey and Mr. and Mrs. J. Paul Suter. I doubt this is the same family, but I thought I'd throw it out there as a potential lead. If your Helen Shirey is listed as Helen "H" Shirey then I would assume her maiden name was Haupt considering her burial behind Rev. Haupt. However, it appears that Charles Elvin Haupt had only one son, Charles Elvin Haupt, Jr. who in turn had only one son, Daniel Charles Haupt. So if she was a Haupt, she would have been descended from one of Charles Elvin Sr's siblings (I see a Harry and a William). This is all based on a very cursory search and now that I'm typing it, it all appears to completely useless. But my interest was peaked with the Shirey name and I felt obliged to respond. ;-) Dan Shire -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Janet Rogers Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 3:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PALANCAS] Rev. Samuel Shirey 1902-1987 Karl, On the SSDI I get this: Helen H. Shirey - b. 27 Apr 1904 d. Feb 1987 - last residence was Glen Burnie, Anne Arundel Co, MD Samuel Shirey b. 18 Aug 1903 and d. Jan 1987 in Baltimore, Baltimore City, MD. Perhaps if you have an Ancestry.com subscription you could check the obits of the Washington Post and the Baltimore Sun for them. Sorry I couldn't do more, my subscription lapsed and I am expecting another in my stocking this year. Blessings, Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl Moyer" <[email protected]> To: "Lancaster County-L" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 2:33 PM Subject: [PALANCAS] Rev. Samuel Shirey 1902-1987 > Dear Fellow Listers, > > Research regarding Grace Lutheran Church, Lancaster, has included my > re-visit to the burial site of an early and important pastor, The Rev. C. > Elvin Haupt, at Greenwood Cemetery, Lancaster. > > Immediately behind his grave marker is another, bronze and flat to the > ground, of one Rev. Samuel Shirey and wife Helen H. Shirey. He died 25 > January 1987, she on 21 Feb. 1987, though death dates of neither were ever > added to the bronze cemetery marker that was obviously placed there in > anticipation of their deaths. I've been told that "perhaps" they died > somewhere in Maryland, but I cannot come up with specifics. > > I cannot identify these people, though the proximity of their graves to > that of Pr. Haupt and his wife prompts a question about some sort of > family > relationship. It appears that Rev. Shirey was not a Lutheran pastor, nor > does the Historical Society of the Evangelical and Reformed Church > identify > him as a Reformed Church pastor. > > Can anyone identify these people and help with with information? > Indeed, it seems sad that their death dates are not included on their > grave > marker, and short of finding family to do so, I've wondered about doing so > myself, if no other option seems possible, though perhaps the denomination > in which Rev. Shirey was a clergyman might take over on that, too. > > Your well would be much appreciated. > > Dr. Karl E. Moyer > 1309 Passey Lane > Lancaster PA > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message