In a message dated 6/1/2006 12:53:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, richardpence@pipeline.com writes: I believe I have read that the early oaths of allegiance - those administered to ship arrivals at Philadelphia - are in the Pennsylvania Archives. Besides the book(s) mentioned in this thread, I believe the names of some of those who took the oath are in the series of publications produced by the PA archives. It has been so many years since I checked these that I am just not sure of the facts. However, the "ship passenger lists" of Germans to Philadelphia are for the most part not passenger lists but lists of those above age 16 who were marched to the court house and administered the oath of allegiance to King George. I have been told - but have not verified this - that the PA Archives, in addition to the lists of those who took the oath also has some lists of ship passengers - and these would include the women and children that are missing from the oath lists. Richard Pence --- The most complete list of the Germanic passenger arrivals into Philadelphia between 1727 and 1808 complete with signatures for the male passengers ages 16 and over for many of the ships can be found in Pennsylvania German Pioneers by Strassburger and Hinke (3 volumes). The introduction to volume one includes the text of the oaths the male passengers took. Most ship lists include only the males 16 and over but, depending upon the ship captains and what they recorded, some lists include all passengers--including women and children. Joan