In a message dated 11/1/2005 4:29:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, Ssplmrgen@aol.com writes: John: I think you will find Stark County in Ohio, not Pennsylvania. Shirley Shirley- I think what John is looking for is a possible will mentioning Margaret as a daughter in Lancaster County where she came from and where her parents probably remained. I checked the Lancaster County will abstracts and there is only one will in there from 1815 for a Michael OBER. Michael had a brother Christian OBER and I suspect they are all part of a family that I found in a WorldConnect database who descend from a Jacob OBER, Sr.: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=gunsmith&id=I70084 Joan