Dyanne, Thanks for the information. Once I knew where she fit, I was able to fit her in rather well. Frederick's given name was actually Jacob Frederick. He used Frederick most of the time because there were several Jacob Frederick's in the family. If you would like to know more about the Griel line to tie it in with the Rittenhouse's I would be happy to share with you. Interestingly enough, my uncle, James Griel married a Patricia Gehr who is the daughter of J Robert Gehr and Anna M Neff and a granddaughter of John A Gehr. It's interesting how surnames will sometimes repeat generations apart. Thanks again for your help! Lester Dymsy@aol.com wrote: Lester, Nathaniel was the son of John C. Rittenhouse and Leah Gehr. Margaret was one of his and his wife, Mariah Painter's children. Margaret (born March, 1873) was appointed guardian of the minor children after their deaths. Margaret married Frederick Griel in 1890 and they had one son that I know of, Frank born in April 1893. My notes show that Frederick, born in March 1859 was the son of Jacob Griel and Anna Conrad. Hope this helps. Dyanne PS It is nice to know that someone read my posting. John and Leah have been a brick wall for many years. ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== This is your list use and enjoy for genealogy. Lester C Griel III, RN --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.