Hello Listers again... My apologies... I was informed that I had the wrong "year" listed in my posting about the FREE Advanced Genealogical Workshop hosted by The Perry Historians.... should have been 2011! Woops! Old habits! Donna Heller Zinn volunteer / director of The Perry Historians

Hello Fellow Listers: The Perry Historians will be hosting their FREE Advanced Genealogical Workshop on Saturday, April 9, 2010 from 9:00 a.m. until 5:00 p.m. at the Harry Lenig Library (home of The Perry Historians). Harry Focht, one of our founding fathers will be the head speaker and presenter on this day. He will be making suggestions on various types of courthouse documents that you may not normally think of being used for genealogical research... as well as other "hidden" places to look for family information... which may help to knock down those "brick walls". We will be breaking for lunch, which you will be on your own. There are various eating establishments nearby for you to visit, or you may pack your lunch and eat in our kitchen area. After lunch, we will be concluding our presentation and there should be plenty of free time for you to use our facility and do some research on your families. So make sure you bring along your research materials and family genealogies. Again, this is FREE and there is no need to register... but we do ask that if you feel you may be interested in attending, please let us know so that should we have any handouts, we know how many copies to make. The Harry Lenig Library (The Perry Historians) is located on the right hand side of Rte. 34 North, just 2 miles from the square of New Bloomfield, Center Twp., Perry Co., PA. .... or on the left hand side of Rte. 34 South, about 4 miles from Newport, Oliver Twp., Perry Co., PA.. Our physical street address is: 763 Dix Hill Rd., New Bloomfield, PA. 17068. For more info on our library, feel free to visit our website: www.ThePerryHistorians.org Look forward to seein' you there! Donna Heller Zinn Donna@ThePerryHistorians.org volunteer / director of The Perry Historians

     You need to keep in mind that in 1776 Lancaster County also included what are now Dauphin and Lebanon County.  Since Dauphin County was settled by Scotch-Irish there were probably Andersons there as well, and they could descend from Andersons in Lancaster County proper.       There is a tax list in the printed Pa. Archives, you can find this at Footnote, on line.  I'd check this tax list for the late 1770s, this is probably a more reliable source for who was in Lancaster County (all of it) than just the existing Revolutionary War papers which we know aren't complete.       In 1777 Pa. had a draft of men between 18 and 53 the only people who were excluded were people who paid a fine and were called non-associators, the 1777 tax lists for Lancaster County include both the tax lists and the non-associators.  It would be better to come to Lancaster County and go through all those tax lists but the Pa. Archives might be a suitable alternative.  The 1780 tax list may have been late enough to have your ancestor old enough to be married and have his own household and show up on the tax lists.  Tax lists seem to be a more reliable way of checking who was in Lancaster County than Revolutionary Papers http://www.footnote.com/documents/185749/pennsylvania_archives/      If you do a search of Footnote don't forget to put the full name in quotations to eliminate all the Andersons, there will probably be tons of them and also, the tax lists are in the Pa Archives 3rd series, Vol. 17 so you can ignore other hits on Robert Anderson until later.  The tax lists are for 1771-1773, 1779 and 1782.  This should give you a more complete list of Robert Andersons in Lancaster County.      You might also check the records of Donegal Presybterian Church, these were published in Lancaster County Church Records of the 18th century, this might turn up something on the Elizabeth Twp. Andersons.  Maybe someone on the list has that book and can check it for you.                                                                                         Jim Conestoga Area Historical Society http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pacahs/index.htm The Googel Search Engine on our page now works. ________________________________ From: C. James Strutz <strutzj@strutz.com> To: palancas@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 9:22:02 AM Subject: [PALANCAS] Robert Anderson Searching for Robert Anderson of Lancaster county, PA,, born about 1756. His son Irwin's biography says that Robert Anderson was "a soldier of the Revolution, descended from a pioneer family of Lancaster county, whither they had emigrated from Ireland prior to the Revolution". PA Archives indicate there were 5 Robert Andersons who served in Lancaster militias: 1 from Colerain twp, 1 from East Strasburg twp, 1 from Elizabeth twp, and 2 from Leacock twp (Sr. and Jr.). I have tentatively eliminated all but the one from Elizabeth and "Jr." from Leacock. The latter remains a mystery because Robert Anderson Sr's only son named Robert was born in 1776, way too young to have served in the Revolution. My Robert Anderson is not registered with DAR, and he apparently is not one of the Donegal Andersons as they are fairly well documented. He moved west after the war and settled in Allegheny county. Any clues leading to Robert Anderson's origins greatly appreciated. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PALANCAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Searching for Robert Anderson of Lancaster county, PA,, born about 1756. His son Irwin's biography says that Robert Anderson was "a soldier of the Revolution, descended from a pioneer family of Lancaster county, whither they had emigrated from Ireland prior to the Revolution". PA Archives indicate there were 5 Robert Andersons who served in Lancaster militias: 1 from Colerain twp, 1 from East Strasburg twp, 1 from Elizabeth twp, and 2 from Leacock twp (Sr. and Jr.). I have tentatively eliminated all but the one from Elizabeth and "Jr." from Leacock. The latter remains a mystery because Robert Anderson Sr's only son named Robert was born in 1776, way too young to have served in the Revolution. My Robert Anderson is not registered with DAR, and he apparently is not one of the Donegal Andersons as they are fairly well documented. He moved west after the war and settled in Allegheny county. Any clues leading to Robert Anderson's origins greatly appreciated.

Searching for August Weibel (August shortened to "Gast" and Weibel also spelled "Wible") of Lancaster county, born about 1737. PA Archive records show he paid taxes in Hempfield twp during the years 1771-1773. He served in the Lancaster county militia for Hempfield twp during the Revolution under Capt. Henry Kuster. He moved to western Pennsylvania after the war and settled in Allegheny county. I want to know who his parents and siblings were.

Hello Klaus-Peter: Here's some census material: Series: T9 Roll: 1143 Page: 225 1880 - 532 West Street, 8-WD Lancaster (city), Lancaster Co., PA - 6/8/1880 Ganss, George - w - m - 61 - widowed - butcher - Hesse Darmstadt/H.D./ H.D. --- Anna - w - f - 34 - dau. - single - keeping house - Hesse Darmstadt/H.D./H.D. --- Joseph - w - m - 32 - son - single - works in butcher shop - Hesse Darmstadt/H.D./H.D. --- Mary - w - f - 22 - dau. - single - at home - PA/HD/HD --- Leonard - w - m - 20 - son - single - works in butcher shop - PA/ HD/HD --- George - w - m - 18 - son - single - works in butcher shop - PA/ HD/HD --- Lizzie - w - m - 15 - dau. - single - at home - PA/HD/HD Burger, Adam - w - m - 20 - boarder - single - works in butcher shop - Hesse Darmstadt/H.D./H.D. Series: T623 Roll: 1424 Page: 253 1900 - 551 St. Joseph Street, 8-WD Lancaster (city), Lancaster Co., PA - 6/6/1900 Burger, Adam - head - w - m - 12/1859 - 40 - married 19 years - Germany/Germany/Germany - 1877/23/Na - butcher - own/free/house --- Barbara - wife - w - f - 9/1857 - 42 - married 19 yrs. - 8 children/6 living - PA/Germany/Germany --- Margaret - dau. - w - f - 5/1882 - 18 - single - PA/Germany/PA - dressmaker --- Sophia - dau. - w - f - 10/1884 - 15 - single - PA/Germany/PA - dressmaker --- Catherine - dau. - w - f - 3/1886 - 14 - single - PA/Germany/PA - at school --- Philip - son - w - m - 6/1888 - 11 - single - PA/Germany/PA - at school --- Rose - dau. - w - f - 12/1889 - 10 - single - PA/Germany/PA - at school --- Harry - son - w - m - 9/1891 - 8 - single - PA/Germany/PA Series: T623 Roll: 1424 Page: 245 1900 - 802 High Street, 8-WD Lancaster (city), Lancaster Co., PA - 6/1/1900 Burger, Philpp - head - w - m - 9/1865 - 34 - married 9 yrs. - Germany/Germany/Germany - baker - own/mortgage/house --- Annie - wife - w - f - 6/1871 - 28 - married 9 yrs. - 6 children/ 6 living - PA/PA/PA --- Frank - son - w - m - */1892 - 8 - single - PA/Germany/PA --- Adam - son - w - m - 4/1894 - 6 - single - PA/Germany/PA --- Margeret - dau. - w - f - 9/1895 - 4 - single - PA/Germany/PA --- Harry - son - w - m - 10/1896 - 3 - single - PA/Germany/PA --- Philip - son - w - m - 12/1897 - 2 - single - PA/Germany/PA --- Katie - dau. - w - f - 5/1** - 1 mo. - single - PA/Germany/PA *unclear, either January or June **unclear Series: T624 Roll: 1354 Page: 140 1910 - 551 St. Joseph Street, 8-WD Lancaster (city), Lancaster Co., PA - 4/19/1910 Burger, Adam - head - m - w - 50 - 1st marriage/28 yrs. - Germany/ Germany/Germany - 1878/Na - butcher/own slaughter house/employer - own/free/house --- Barbara E. - wife - f - w - 54 - 1st marriage/28 yrs. - 8 children/6 living - PA/Germany/Germany --- Sophia B. - dau. - f - w - 24 - single - PA/Germany/PA --- Philip A. - son - m - w - 21 - single - PA/Germany/PA - butcher/ slaughter house --- Henry - son - m - w - 18 - single - PA/Germany/PA - butcher/ slaughter house Series: T624 Roll: 1354 Page: 151 1910 - 802 High Street, 8-WD Lancaster (city), Lancaster Co., PA - 4/22/1910 Burger, Philip - head - m - w - 45 - 1st marriage/19 yrs. - Germany/ Germany/Germany - 1880/Na - baker/bread & cakes/worker - own/mortgage/ house --- Anna - wife - f - w - 40 - 1st marriage/19 yrs. - 13 children/8 living - PA/PA/PA --- Frank - son - m - w - 18 - single - PA/Germany/PA - spinner/ cotton mill --- Adam - son - m - w - 17 - single - PA/Germany/PA - spinner/ cotton mill --- Margaret - dau. - f - w - 16 - single - PA/Germany/PA - spinner/ cotton mill --- Harry - son - m - w - 14 - single - PA/Germany/PA - apprentice/ brickmaker --- Philip Jr. - son - m - w - 13 - single - PA/Germany/PA --- Katharine - dau. - f - w - 10 - single - PA/Germany/PA --- John - son - m - w - 8 - single - PA/Germany/PA --- Karl - son - m - w - 2 - single - PA/Germany/PA Series: T625 Roll: 1584 Page: 140 1920 - 551 St. Joseph Street, 8-WD Lancaster (city), Lancaster Co., PA - 1/5-6/1920 Burger, Adam - head - own/free - m - w - 59 - married - 1878/Na/1883 - Darmstadt/Darmstadt/Darmstadt - butcher/own shop/own acct. --- Lydia - wife - f - w - 59 - married - PA/Bavaria/Switzerland --- Sophia - dau. - f - w - 33 - single - PA/Darmstadt/PA Series: T625 Roll: 1584 Page: 152 1920 - 802 High Street, 8-WD Lancaster (city), Lancaster Co., PA - 1/14-15/1920 Burger, Philip - head - m - w - 53 - married - 1882/Na/1889 - Darmstadt/Darmstadt/Darmstadt - baker/bake shop/worker --- Frank - son - m - w - 27 - single - PA/Darmstadt/PA - butcher/ butcher shop/worker --- Adam - son - m - w - 25 - single - PA/Darmstadt/PA - wagon driver/milk wagon/worker --- Margaret - dau. - f - w - 24 - single - PA/Darmstadt/PA --- John - son - m - w - 16 - single - PA/Darmstadt/PA - wagon driver/baker wagon/worker --- Carl - son - m - w - 11 - single - PA/Darmstadt/PA It looks like Adam immigrated a few years before Philipp immigrated. Hope there is something useful here. Good luck with your search! Debra On Mar 23, 2011, at 3:53 PM, Klaus-Peter Hölzer wrote: > > Hello, > > I was requested by Hubert Burger to help to find his lost distant > relatives in Lancaster, PA. > > In 1878 Adam Burger, a butcher, born 13 Dec 1860 and in 1881 his > brother > Philipp Burger, a baker, born 14 Sep 1865 emigrated to North > America and > settled in Lancaster. Both were born in Gross-Zimmern, Hesse- > Darmstadt, > Germany and sons of Ambrosius Burger, 1827-1896. > > Ancestor of the Catholic families in Gross-Zimmern was Jean Burger > from > Liège, Belgium. In 1653 his son Wendel Philipp Burger was born here. > > As in 1904 a new Catholic church was erected in Gross-Zimmer emigrant > Adam Burger donated a church window in honor of his parents. > > We would like to get in contact with descendants of Adam and Philip > Burger and/or interested searcher to share informations. Thanks in > advance. > > Klaus-Peter Hoelzer, Reinheim, Germany > kpholz@gmx.de >

The Albright's that are my ancestors are John Ernst Albright who married Malinda Owen; Their son, Henry D. Albright who married Sarah Hinkle, Their daughter Margaret E. who married Henry Jacobs (my GG Grandparents) I know there are many Albrights. Thanks for asking. Sue On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Nancy <nanrick76@epix.net> wrote: > Which Albright line? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue Lupinacci" <smlupinacci@gmail.com> > To: <palancas@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:10 PM > Subject: Re: [PALANCAS] Thanks 4 Research Tips > > >

Which Albright line? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Lupinacci" <smlupinacci@gmail.com> To: <palancas@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [PALANCAS] Thanks 4 Research Tips >I also certainly appreciated all of the research tips given to Penny. They > were most helpful. I have used some of the suggestions in the past, by > mail > only, and gotten a lot of helpful information. > I have one question, though,One of the posters mentioned that the lchs has > family files...where on the site would I find a list of what they have? I > even emailed lchs directly and got a prompt reply but it didn't answer my > question. I have seem and used the list of family files on the Mennonite > site, also a great site. > Thanks to all from me also. > Sue Lupinacci, researching Dibeler/Deibler, Bierbower, Books and Albright > in > Lancaster County and surrounding areas. > > On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Penny Fuller <wvmagpie@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Thank you everyone for your valuable help on researching in Lancaster.Of >> all the >> groups I have encountered, you're the most generous with newbies. Penny >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PALANCAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PALANCAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, Brownie. I have kept our "Engulf and Devour" messages just because it is nice to know that there are others out there who feel the same as I do. From what I read on the NARA researchers list serve the situation is going to be much worse for us. Do you watch the "Who Do You Think You Are?" series? I watched one and got so angry and disgusted that I haven't watched any this season. Debra Blackard Overbey

For family files go to Lancaster History.org. Click on Collections & select Library. Choose the top item "What's in the Library" & scroll down to Family Files. They suggest searching the library catalog to see if a family file exists for a particular surname.

I also certainly appreciated all of the research tips given to Penny. They were most helpful. I have used some of the suggestions in the past, by mail only, and gotten a lot of helpful information. I have one question, though,One of the posters mentioned that the lchs has family files...where on the site would I find a list of what they have? I even emailed lchs directly and got a prompt reply but it didn't answer my question. I have seem and used the list of family files on the Mennonite site, also a great site. Thanks to all from me also. Sue Lupinacci, researching Dibeler/Deibler, Bierbower, Books and Albright in Lancaster County and surrounding areas. On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Penny Fuller <wvmagpie@yahoo.com> wrote: > Thank you everyone for your valuable help on researching in Lancaster.Of > all the > groups I have encountered, you're the most generous with newbies. Penny > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PALANCAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Why don't you just join the List group instead. You get the same messages..... only one at a time in separate windows. Working from Gmail, there is no way to get rid of the other attached messages that I can find. On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Richard Sherer <richard.a.sherer@gmail.com>wrote: > Out of consideration for those of us who read this list in digest form on > small mobile instruments, please remember to trim off all the old messages > when you reply to someone. In the last digest, I had to scroll through > about > 100 lines of repeated messages to get to the end of one response, and the > remaining replies were cut off because of length. > Thanks, > Richard Aurand Sherer > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PALANCAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks for the suggestion. I actually keep ALL of the messages, because sometimes they contain information that I don't know I need now but might in the future. Getting them in a digest form simplifies the filing and searching process, and saves me having to open 7 or 8 different messages. Besides, receiving the messages separately wouldn't eliminate the long strings of sideways carets. As a general rule, netiquette suggests eliminating all but the essence of a message you're answering, the way I did below. Usually if I ask politely, people take the hint, which makes the list better for everyone, not just me. Best, Richard Aurand Sherer > Brownie MacKie <lumackie@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Why don't you just join the List group instead. You get the same > messages..... only one at a time in separate windows. > >

You delete excess messages from your reply in Gmail the same way you do in any other program: highlight what you don't want and then hit the delete key. It just takes a minute or two. Triste --- If you can't get rid of them ugly old skeletons in the closet, at least teach 'em how to dance funny. Billy C. Wirtz --- On Thu, 3/24/11, Brownie MacKie <lumackie@gmail.com> wrote: > Why  don't you just join the > List group instead.  You get the same > messages..... only one at a time in separate windows.  > Working from Gmail, > there is no way to get rid of the other attached messages > that I can find. > > On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Richard Sherer > <richard.a.sherer@gmail.com>wrote: > > > Out of consideration for those of us who read this > list in digest form on > > small mobile instruments, please remember to trim off > all the old messages > > when you reply to someone.

Thank you everyone for your valuable help on researching in Lancaster.Of all the groups I have encountered, you're the most generous with newbies. Penny

Out of consideration for those of us who read this list in digest form on small mobile instruments, please remember to trim off all the old messages when you reply to someone. In the last digest, I had to scroll through about 100 lines of repeated messages to get to the end of one response, and the remaining replies were cut off because of length. Thanks, Richard Aurand Sherer

Anyone know if this is available online? I know that the Lancaster Historical Society has it on microfilm, but does any other place outside the city have it? Lynn

I'm researching, Maria (unk) Frey, the second wife of Benedict Bucher from Cocalico Twp.as found in the record below. I believe Maria and Johannes are the parents of Catherine Frey born 1760 who married Johannes Hage born 1754 +/- also found in the same record. I'm hoping some Bucher researcher might have stumbled across a piece of the puzzle. I need Marie's maiden name. Pensylvania Archives Series 6 Vol VI Chapter: Baptismal and Marriage records Rev. John Waldscmidt, Cocalico, Moden Krick, WeisseichenLand and Seltenreich. Gemeinde. lancaster Co., PA 1752-1786 pg 224. Bucher_Benedictus or Benedict - or Benns Bucher second marriage to Maria, widow of Johannes Frey married 8 Sep 1778. Benedict was first married to Anna Hershey. Hag_ Johannes, son of decd. Conrad Hag, and Catharina Frey daughter of decd. Johannes Frey on Aug 7, 1781 in Cocalico Twp. Lancaster Co., PA . Benedict Bucher's will of 1787 also leaves widow Mary £200 minus the £60 bond of John Heck. This is the same year that Johannes Hage purchased land in Chanceford Twp, York Co. I have been have difficulty in pin pointing which Johannes Frey was the father of Catherine as well a locating a maiden name for Marie, her mother. ------------------------------------------- Also, there are several possibilities where Johannes Hage's father is concerned. I've been circling the drain on this for years. Just thought I'd through it out there again. A Conrad (Au)Hage age 40 arrived in 1753 along with a Christopher Auhage. Conrad wrote his name as Hage in the Oath of Allegiance signed in Philadelphia. Its possible that Christopher was later written as Christian Hage. As a Christian Hage is also found in the Moden Creek records. There are several other Haak, Hawk, Hage, Hege and Frey marriages in the same localitities and time frame. George Hege married Eva Frey, Balthasar Hege married Julianna, John Hege married Mary Frey. Also aligning with Roth, Rupp and Volk or Walk families. Then again in 1777 a Johannes Hage arrived in Phila. So its possible his father Conrad never touched US soil.

Hello, I was requested by Hubert Burger to help to find his lost distant relatives in Lancaster, PA. In 1878 Adam Burger, a butcher, born 13 Dec 1860 and in 1881 his brother Philipp Burger, a baker, born 14 Sep 1865 emigrated to North America and settled in Lancaster. Both were born in Gross-Zimmern, Hesse-Darmstadt, Germany and sons of Ambrosius Burger, 1827-1896. Ancestor of the Catholic families in Gross-Zimmern was Jean Burger from Liège, Belgium. In 1653 his son Wendel Philipp Burger was born here. As in 1904 a new Catholic church was erected in Gross-Zimmer emigrant Adam Burger donated a church window in honor of his parents. We would like to get in contact with descendants of Adam and Philip Burger and/or interested searcher to share informations. Thanks in advance. Klaus-Peter Hoelzer, Reinheim, Germany kpholz@gmx.de

I don't know if this little bit of info will help or if it's the same family but in my book Church records of the 18th century Listed under Baptisms by Rev. Mongrand of St. Mary's Church (Catholic) I found on Sept 20, 1795 a Julius Adolphus, aged 2 months son of Master Philip Peticolas and wife Madam Ameilia Moneuse-their Sponsors were a Master Michael Burger, Madam Elizabeth Burger. I do havwe several Burgers listed on Ships----if you're interested in them I'll send them too-- Good-luck with your research Nancy Rupp-Shultis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Klaus-Peter Hölzer" <kpholz@gmx.de> To: <PALANCAS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 3:53 PM Subject: [PALANCAS] BURGER-families in Lancaster Couty Hello, I was requested by Hubert Burger to help to find his lost distant relatives in Lancaster, PA. In 1878 Adam Burger, a butcher, born 13 Dec 1860 and in 1881 his brother Philipp Burger, a baker, born 14 Sep 1865 emigrated to North America and settled in Lancaster. Both were born in Gross-Zimmern, Hesse-Darmstadt, Germany and sons of Ambrosius Burger, 1827-1896. Ancestor of the Catholic families in Gross-Zimmern was Jean Burger from Liège, Belgium. In 1653 his son Wendel Philipp Burger was born here. As in 1904 a new Catholic church was erected in Gross-Zimmer emigrant Adam Burger donated a church window in honor of his parents. We would like to get in contact with descendants of Adam and Philip Burger and/or interested searcher to share informations. Thanks in advance. Klaus-Peter Hoelzer, Reinheim, Germany kpholz@gmx.de ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PALANCAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message