Hi Richard,       You might want to check out the web page of the Conestoga Area Historical Society at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pacahs/index.htm      The 1790 census is on this page but the only Barr is a Jacob Barr.  At this time Conestoga Twp. included what is now Pequea Twp.  There are other things you might check on this web page, like the various histories of the Twps. covered by our historical society; Conestoga, Manor, Martic, Pequea, Millersville and Washington Boroughs.  The Google search engine on this page now works, so check it out.                                                                                                  Jim http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pacahs/index.htm From: Richard Allen <allen.richard74@yahoo.com> To: palancas@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2011 11:49 AM Subject: [PALANCAS] Martin and John Barr or Bear of Lancaster C0, the later of Conestoga T in 1818 I'm searching for the dob and dod for Martin and John Barr or Bear of Lancaster Co.  Both purchased land in Washington Co. MD, and may have lived there for a time, but apparently did not remain there.  Martin purchased land in 1787 in MD and John had land there he sold to his sons in 1818.  I'd like to know how or if they were related. I'm not sure if Martin was back there (or had never left) by the 1790 census in Lancaster.   Richard   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PALANCAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm searching for the dob and dod for Martin and John Barr or Bear of Lancaster Co.  Both purchased land in Washington Co. MD, and may have lived there for a time, but apparently did not remain there.  Martin purchased land in 1787 in MD and John had land there he sold to his sons in 1818.  I'd like to know how or if they were related. I'm not sure if Martin was back there (or had never left) by the 1790 census in Lancaster.   Richard  

Hi, Christi: Is this the right family? Series: M653 Roll: 1124 Page: 452 1860 - Manor Twp., Lancaster Co., PA - 7/18/1860 Tillman, Catharine - 46 - f - $700/250 Ulmer, Jacob - 20 - m - carpenter - $---/300 - married within the year --- Mary - 21 - f - married within the year PA for all. Series: M593 Roll: 1354 Page: 140a & b 1870 - 2-WD Columbia, Lancaster Co., PA - 7/15/1870 Ulmer, Jacob - 31 - m - w - carpenter at furnace - cannot write --- Mary - 32 - f - w - keeping house - cannot read/cannot write --- Benj. H. - 10 - m - w - attended school within year --- Elias - 8 - m - w - attended school within year --- John - 5 - m - w --- Albert - 2 - m - w --- Kate - 9 mos. - f - w - born in Aug. PA for all. Series: T9 Roll: 1141 Page: 161 1880 - 3-WD; Columbia, Lancaster Co., PA - 6/21/1880 Ulmer, Jacob - w - m - 40 - married - car inspector on rail road --- Mary - w - f - 41 - wife - married - keeping house --- Benjn. H. - w - m - 19 - son - single - works in rolling mill --- Elias - w - m - 17 - son - single - at home (school) - 1 foot off - maimed --- John - w - m - 15 - son - single - works in rolling mill --- Albert - w - m - 12 - son - single - home (school) --- Henry - w - m - 9 - son - single - home (school) --- William - w - m - 7 mos. - single - born in Oct. - son - single - home PA/PA/PA for all, except Mary (PA/Germany/Germany). Could this be Jacob's parents and siblings? Series: M432 Roll: 787 Page: 163 1850 - Manor Twp., Lancaster Co., PA - 9/20/1850 Ulmer, Casper - 45 - m - butcher - $900 - Germany --- Catharina - 43 - f - Germany --- Catharina - 16 - f - PA --- Magdalena - 12 - f - PA --- Jacob - 9 - m - PA --- Andrew - 8 - m - PA --- Benj. Ulmer - 7 - m - PA --- John - 5 - m - PA Series: M653 Roll: 1124 Page: 476 1860 - Manor Twp., Lancaster Co., PA - 7/27/1860 Ulmer, Catharine - 52 - f - $1,500/300 - Wurtemburg, Germany --- Andrew - 18 - m - laborer - PA --- Benjiman - 16 - m - laborer - PA --- John - 15 - m - laborer - PA --- Christian - 9 - m - PA Hertzler, Elias - 25 - m - $1,400/400 - PA --- Magdelena - 22 - f - PA --- Catharine - 4 - f - PA --- Elmira - 1 - f - PA Series: M593 Roll: 1357 Page: 532 1870 - Millersville P.O., Manor Twp., Lancaster Co., PA - 8/15/1870 Ulmer, Catharine - 63 - f - w - keeps house - 4700/100 - PA --- Christian - 19 - m - w - laborer - PA Series: T9 Roll: 1143 Page: 324 1880 - Indiantown; Manor, Lancaster Co., PA - 6/5/1880 Ulmer, Christian - w - m - 29 - married - laborer - PA/Wurtemberg/ Wurtemberg --- Catharine - w - f - 26 - wife - married - keeping house - PA/PA/PA --- Hiram - w - m - 5 - son - single - PA/PA/PA --- Elmer - w - m - 3 - son - single - PA/PA/PA --- Lizzie - w - f - 2 - dau. - single - PA/PA/PA --- Cyrus - w - m - 4 mos. - born in Jan. - son - single - PA/PA/PA next household on page: Ulmer, Catharine - w - f - 74 - mother - widowed - keeping house - Wurtemberg/Wurtemberg/Wurtemberg Hope there is something useful here. Good luck with your search! Debra On Aug 31, 2011, at 9:53 AM, Christi Ulmer wrote: > According to the information on Ancestry.com - (I have contacted > the owner of this tree with no success in gaining more info): > > Jacob Ulmer-born 1839 in Columbia, Lancaster, PA > > Mary Ann Wolf (1839-1896)-Father-Benjamin Wolf (1802-1876) and > mother Mary Ann Funk (1813-1892). > > Although the Wolf and Funk ancestors are listed in this tree, there > is no ancestry listed for Jacob Ulmer. > > Thanks for any help. > > Christi Ulmer > > > > From: Mary Ann Thurmond <mary9999@pacbell.net> > To: Christi Ulmer <ulmermail@yahoo.com>; palancas@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 11:32 PM > Subject: Re: [PALANCAS] ULMER WOLF FUNK > > Christi, > Do you have any approximate years of birth or death, and location > of births? It would be very helpful to narrow down searches. Thanks. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christi Ulmer" > <ulmermail@yahoo.com> > To: <PALANCAS@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 6:24 PM > Subject: [PALANCAS] ULMER WOLF FUNK > > > Hello - I am new to this list. Seeking information on my ancestors > Jacob Ulmer and Mary Ann Wolf. Mary Ann's father was Benjamin Wolf > and mother was ? Funk. I have been at a dead end with my Ulmer > family for more than 15 years. Recently, we came across an old > photo of Mary Ulmer-on the back it noted that she was Mary Ann > Wolf, Jacob's wife. Her father was Benjamin Wolf and mother's last > name was Funk. I found this family on Ancestry.com living in > Lancaster PA. I had never heard of a connection with Lancaster in > the past. I know nothing more than that about this Jacob Ulmer, but > would love to know more. My Ulmer family has lived in Louisville KY > for several generations. There is some connection with Cincinatti > as well. Any help/guidance is appreciated. > Thanks, > Christi Ulmer > >

According to the information on Ancestry.com - (I have contacted the owner of this tree with no success in gaining more info):   Jacob Ulmer-born 1839 in Columbia, Lancaster, PA   Mary Ann Wolf (1839-1896)-Father-Benjamin Wolf (1802-1876) and mother Mary Ann Funk (1813-1892).   Although the Wolf and Funk ancestors are listed in this tree, there is no ancestry listed for Jacob Ulmer.    Thanks for any help.   Christi Ulmer     From: Mary Ann Thurmond <mary9999@pacbell.net> To: Christi Ulmer <ulmermail@yahoo.com>; palancas@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 11:32 PM Subject: Re: [PALANCAS] ULMER WOLF FUNK Christi, Do you have any approximate years of birth or death, and location of births? It would be very helpful to narrow down searches. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christi Ulmer" <ulmermail@yahoo.com> To: <PALANCAS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 6:24 PM Subject: [PALANCAS] ULMER WOLF FUNK Hello - I am new to this list. Seeking information on my ancestors Jacob Ulmer and Mary Ann Wolf. Mary Ann's father was Benjamin Wolf and mother was ? Funk. I have been at a dead end with my Ulmer family for more than 15 years. Recently, we came across an old photo of Mary Ulmer-on the back it noted that she was Mary Ann Wolf, Jacob's wife. Her father was Benjamin Wolf and mother's last name was Funk. I found this family on Ancestry.com living in Lancaster PA. I had never heard of a connection with Lancaster in the past. I know nothing more than that about this Jacob Ulmer, but would love to know more. My Ulmer family has lived in Louisville KY for several generations. There is some connection with Cincinatti as well. Any help/guidance is appreciated. Thanks, Christi Ulmer ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PALANCAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Christi, Here are a couple queries I found from the same man. You might want to contact him and he may be ablre to help you. I have 2 "Wolf" families I am researching and I don't see this family. Good luck! Gloria --- On Tue, 8/30/11, Christi Ulmer <ulmermail@yahoo.com> wrote: > From: Christi Ulmer <ulmermail@yahoo.com> > Subject: [PALANCAS] ULMER WOLF FUNK > To: "PALANCAS@rootsweb.com" <PALANCAS@rootsweb.com> > Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2011, 9:24 PM > Hello - I am new to this list. > Seeking information on my ancestors Jacob Ulmer and Mary Ann > Wolf.  Mary Ann's father was Benjamin Wolf and mother was ? > Funk.  I have been at a dead end with my Ulmer family for > more than 15 years.  Recently, we came across an old photo > of Mary Ulmer-on the back it noted that she was Mary Ann > Wolf, Jacob's wife.  Her father was Benjamin Wolf and > mother's last name was Funk.  I found this family on > Ancestry.com living in Lancaster PA.  I had never heard of > a connection with Lancaster in the past. I know nothing > more than that about this Jacob Ulmer, but would love to > know more.  My Ulmer family has lived in Louisville KY for > several generations. There is some connection with > Cincinatti as well. Any help/guidance is appreciated. > Thanks, > Christi Ulmer > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PALANCAS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Christi, Do you have any approximate years of birth or death, and location of births? It would be very helpful to narrow down searches. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christi Ulmer" <ulmermail@yahoo.com> To: <PALANCAS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 6:24 PM Subject: [PALANCAS] ULMER WOLF FUNK Hello - I am new to this list. Seeking information on my ancestors Jacob Ulmer and Mary Ann Wolf. Mary Ann's father was Benjamin Wolf and mother was ? Funk. I have been at a dead end with my Ulmer family for more than 15 years. Recently, we came across an old photo of Mary Ulmer-on the back it noted that she was Mary Ann Wolf, Jacob's wife. Her father was Benjamin Wolf and mother's last name was Funk. I found this family on Ancestry.com living in Lancaster PA. I had never heard of a connection with Lancaster in the past. I know nothing more than that about this Jacob Ulmer, but would love to know more. My Ulmer family has lived in Louisville KY for several generations. There is some connection with Cincinatti as well. Any help/guidance is appreciated. Thanks, Christi Ulmer ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PALANCAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello - I am new to this list. Seeking information on my ancestors Jacob Ulmer and Mary Ann Wolf.  Mary Ann's father was Benjamin Wolf and mother was ? Funk.  I have been at a dead end with my Ulmer family for more than 15 years.  Recently, we came across an old photo of Mary Ulmer-on the back it noted that she was Mary Ann Wolf, Jacob's wife.  Her father was Benjamin Wolf and mother's last name was Funk.  I found this family on Ancestry.com living in Lancaster PA.  I had never heard of a connection with Lancaster in the past. I know nothing more than that about this Jacob Ulmer, but would love to know more.  My Ulmer family has lived in Louisville KY for several generations. There is some connection with Cincinatti as well. Any help/guidance is appreciated. Thanks, Christi Ulmer

Hi, I can't help with your question, sorry, but can you tell me where you found the tax lists you mention? Are they online anywhere? Thank you, Elizabeth =================================================== On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Art Miller <amiller44@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Wondering if anyone can relate to David Miller who was listed on 1779 and > 1780 tax lists for Lancaster Burrough. Per 1783, deed he sold property on > Orange Street and refers to him as late of Lancaster Burrough. I'm trying > to determine if he could be my David Miller who shows up in Manellen Twp. of > now Fayette Co. about 1781. > Art Miller, Louisville > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PALANCAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Wondering if anyone can relate to David Miller who was listed on 1779 and 1780 tax lists for Lancaster Burrough. Per 1783, deed he sold property on Orange Street and refers to him as late of Lancaster Burrough. I'm trying to determine if he could be my David Miller who shows up in Manellen Twp. of now Fayette Co. about 1781. Art Miller, Louisville

I have several David Millers: David Miller (son of Ludwick Millar) b 1758 Lancaster or Cumberland, PA d 1819 Rockingham, VA 1800 census Fayette Co, PA 1810 census " son David Miller b 1784 PA -------------------------------------- David Miller b 1791 PA (son of Abraham Miller) David Miller b 1776 Rockingham Co, VA (son of Jacob Miller) Patti ----- Original Message ----- From: Art Miller To: ZZ-Lancaster Co., Pa. Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:58 AM Subject: [PALANCAS] David Miller in Lancaster Burrough Wondering if anyone can relate to David Miller who was listed on 1779 and 1780 tax lists for Lancaster Burrough. Per 1783, deed he sold property on Orange Street and refers to him as late of Lancaster Burrough. I'm trying to determine if he could be my David Miller who shows up in Manellen Twp. of now Fayette Co. about 1781. Art Miller, Louisville ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PALANCAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have Samuel Singer h'd of Barbara Hostetter b. ca. 1722. She was the daughter of Oswald and Maria/Mary Hostetter. I think she died before 1749/not sure (1749 death date of her father). Had son John (of Manheim Twp. Lancaster Co., PA) two references: Lancaster Co., PA, Deed Book II, Pages 491-493 John Singer to Michael Hoover, 1 March 1769 and Lancaster Co.,PA, Deed Book S, Vol.1, pages 156-157 John Singer to Jacob Erb,11 March 1769 My Mother was a Hostetter from the Oswald and Maria Hostetter line. David

John Singer son of Samuel Singer and Barbara Hostetter is my 5th great-grandfather, would love to collaborate... Here is just a small bit of the info I have: JOHN SINGER (Samuel1) was born before 1742 in Cocalico Twp., Lancaster Co., PA. He died in Aug 1792 in Newberry Twp., York Co., PA. He married (1) ELIZABETH LONG on 14 Jul 1779 in First Reformed (Trinity) Church, York Co., PA, daughter of Joseph Schnebele Long and Elizabeth Good. She was born on 16 May 1762 in Rapho Twp., Lancaster Co., PA. She died in 1784 in Newberry Twp., York Co., PA. He married (2) MAGDALENA HUBER on 08 Mar 1784 in First Reformed (Trinity) Church, York Co., PA. She was born in 1764 in , , Pennsylvania, USA. She died about 1785 in Newberry Twp., York Co., PA. He married (3) BARBARA BEACHLER on 02 Jul 1786 in First Reformed (Trinity) Church, York Co., PA. She was born on 25 Jan 1767 in York Co., PA. She died on 29 Oct 1832 in Fairview Twp., York Co., PA. John Singer and Elizabeth Long had the following children: i. SAMUEL3 SINGER was born in 1779 in Newberry Twp., York Co., PA. He died after 27 Aug 1860 in Jackson Twp., Cambria Co., PA. He married ELIZABETH MEGUIRE on 23 Feb 1802 in York Co., PA by Roger Hammersley, Esq., daughter of Nathaniel Meguire and Sarah Collins. She was born in 1785 in Newberry Twp., York Co., PA. She died on 27 Jan 1868 in Jackson Twp., Cambria Co., PA. ii. SUSANNAH SINGER was born in 1780 in Newberry Twp., York Co., PA. She died on 23 Aug 1866 in Taylor Twp., Cambria Co., PA. She married CHRISTIAN GOOD in 1798 in Eastern Part, Pennsylvania, United States, son of Jacob Good and Mary Bosley. He was born on 07 Oct 1779 in Hagerstown, Washington Co., MD. He died on 07 Dec 1852 in Conemaugh Twp., Cambria Co., PA. John Singer and Barbara Beachler had the following children: iii. JOHN SINGER was born on 06 May 1787 in Newberry Twp., York Co., PA. He died on 19 Dec 1835 in Fairview Twp., York Co., PA. He married MARY SINGER between 1811-1815 in York Co., PA. She was born about 1794 in York Co., PA. She died in Fairview Twp., York Co., PA. iv. CHRISTIANA SINGER was born on 05 Aug 1789 in Newberry Twp., York Co., PA. She died on 01 Aug 1861 in East Taylor Twp., Cambria Co., PA. She married JOSEPH DIMOND, son of Patrick Dimond and Jemima Roberts. He was born on 02 Jul 1794 in PA. He died on 19 Jun 1860 in Conemaugh Twp., Cambria Co., PA. v. DAVID SINGER was born on 23 Dec 1790 in Newberry Twp., York Co., PA. He died on 30 Aug 1850 in Conemaugh Twp., Cambria Co., PA. He married MARY GOOD in 1815 in Cambria Co., PA, daughter of Jacob Good and Mary Bosley. She was born on 06 Aug 1795 in Quemahoning Twp., Somerset Co., PA. She died on 03 Mar 1858 in Conemaugh Twp., Cambria Co., PA. vi. BARBARA SINGER was born on 06 May 1792 in York Co. Pennsylvania. She died on 17 Nov 1869 in York Co. Pennsylvania. She married ISAAC SPENCE. He was born on 22 Sep 1786 in York Co. Pennsylvania. He died on 06 Sep 1819 in York Co. Generation 2 (con't) 22 Sep 1786 in York Co. Pennsylvania. He died on 06 Sep 1819 in York Co. Pennsylvania. -----Original Message----- From: palancas-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:palancas-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ed Wevodau Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 12:57 AM To: palancas@rootsweb.com; pafrankl@rootsweb.com Subject: [PALANCAS] John Singer of Cocalico tp., Lancaster County, PA, and later Washington tp., Franklin County, PA <snip> I do not know where John Singer was prior to 1789. The House of Sanger, Volume II, gives his place of origin as Derry Township. This may be true. Of great interest to me is a John Singer, son of Samuel Singer & his wife Barbara, nee Hochstetter. Barbara was a daughter of Oswald Hochstetter, who died in Lancaster County in 1749. Court records indicate that she died before her father leaving issue one child: John Singer. In 1769 and 1775, John Singer of Manheim tp. gave his release to the lands of his late grandfather in right of his deceased mother and father. Manheim tp. tax records show a John Singer, singleman, from 1769 through 1778. But then the trail is lost. I find no John Singer in Lancaster tax records until 1789, unless I chanced to miss him. I find him a figure of great interest because Jacob Dornbach ultimately purchased 133 acres of Oswald Hochstetter's Cocalico Township plantation. The same religion, the same region, likely familiarity..... It seems a fit, but the proof is not there. Going back: Samuel Singer could be the same person as Simon Singer, who died intestate in Derry tp. in 1761. That Simon had a son John. Perhaps the House of Sanger book is partly accurate: That Derry tp. was the place of origin. If any of this data connects to you in any way, please drop a line. <snip>

Good day, Most Singer/Senger data on the Internet appears to originate with a series of books entitled House of Sanger. Volume II of the set puts forth that John Singer, the son of John Singer & his wife Barbara of Derry tp., moved to Washington tp., Franklin County, PA. His wife was given as Mary Dambach. However, evidence now suggests that John Singer had two wives: Maria Royer (the daughter of Christopher Royer of Earl Township) and next Maria Dornbach (the daughter of Jacob Dornbach of Cocalico Township). Below, I have placed a series of deeds and several will abstracts that documents the migrations and the first wife. A John Senger is taxed in Cocalico Township from 1789 to 1793 on 60 acres of land. I believe this to be my John Singer, as several deeds below indicate that he had resided in Cocalico Township. Jacob Dornbach is also taxed in the township from 1769 through 1793. In 1796, Jacob Dornbach sold his land (see Lancaster Deeds P6-211 through P6-218). In 1798, both he and John Singer purchased adjoining property in Washington County, Maryland. In 1804, John Singer sold his property and purchased land in Washington tp., Franklin County, PA. In John Singer's 1810 estate file, there is a bond payable to Jacob Dornbaugh from Ulrich Friedly & John Friedly. Washington County, Maryland, deed records show that Jacob Dornbach had sold part of his property to John Friedly. I assume that John Singer had the bond assigned over to him as part of both he and his wife's inheritance. (I have not had an opportunity to search for a Jacob Dornbach estate in Washington County, Maryland.) I do not know where John Singer was prior to 1789. The House of Sanger, Volume II, gives his place of origin as Derry Township. This may be true. Of great interest to me is a John Singer, son of Samuel Singer & his wife Barbara, nee Hochstetter. Barbara was a daughter of Oswald Hochstetter, who died in Lancaster County in 1749. Court records indicate that she died before her father leaving issue one child: John Singer. In 1769 and 1775, John Singer of Manheim tp. gave his release to the lands of his late grandfather in right of his deceased mother and father. Manheim tp. tax records show a John Singer, singleman, from 1769 through 1778. But then the trail is lost. I find no John Singer in Lancaster tax records until 1789, unless I chanced to miss him. I find him a figure of great interest because Jacob Dornbach ultimately purchased 133 acres of Oswald Hochstetter's Cocalico Township plantation. The same religion, the same region, likely familiarity..... It seems a fit, but the proof is not there. Going back: Samuel Singer could be the same person as Simon Singer, who died intestate in Derry tp. in 1761. That Simon had a son John. Perhaps the House of Sanger book is partly accurate: That Derry tp. was the place of origin. If any of this data connects to you in any way, please drop a line. Cocalico Township, Lancaster County, Tax Records (1751-1805): JohnSenger, 1789-1793, 60A (reedmaker '92) Washington Township, FranklinCounty Tax Records (1794-1817): JohnSinger, 1804-1810, 168A John Singerâs heirs, 1811; 120A patented land,50A warranted land Proof of First Wife Maria Royer plus Proof of Migration from Cocalico Township, Lancaster County, to Washington Township, Franklin County Lancaster Will I-386: Christopher Royer, yeoman, of Earl tp., writ. 26 Feb 1803,probated 1 Apr 1805. 1. He previously sold and conveyed his 130A plantation to his son Ephraim Royer, with the allowance that the testator and his wife Anna could dwell in the new built house for the remainder of their natural lives. The testator details the rights and privileges that should be enjoyed by his said wife. 2. To his son Joel Royer: The land on which he now dwells, to wit: 120A Earl tp., adjoining Abraham Grebill, late Jacob Carpenter (deceased), Abraham Carpenter, the Conestoga Creek, Christian Herman, and others. The testator values the plantation and orders Joel to pay that amount into his estate. 3. Son Daniel Royer has previously received 1,000 pounds as well as some articles of husbandry. He is thereby excluded from the monetary provisions in this will. 4. To the children of Sarah Baker, to wit: Jacob Baker, Maria Baker, Peggy Baker, Nancy Baker, and Catharine Baker: 25 pounds each when they attain the age of 21 years. [No relationship given.] 5. To his daughters Christina (who is intermarried with Abraham Frick), Rebecca, and Salome: 500 pounds each. 6. To the three children of my deceased daughter Mary, who was intermarried with John Singer, to wit: John, Susanna, and Mary: 500 pounds (one equal third to each). 7. To his son John Royer: 50 pounds. 8. The residue of his estate is to be divided into seven parts and paid to each of his children, to wit: John Royer, Ephraim Royer, Joel Royer, Christina (intermarried with Abraham Frick), Rebecca Royer, Salome Royer, and Mary Singer (deceased; to her aforenamed three children). 9. Executors: Son-in-law Abraham Frick of Manheim tp. and friend John Meyer of Earl tp. They are also named as the guardians of deceased daughter Maryâs three children. 10. Witnessed by Joel Carpenter, John Carpenter, and Christian Carpenter. FranklinCounty Will B410: JohnSinger (or Syngar) of Washington tp., 18 Apr 1810-31 May 1810 1. To his wife Mary: All my tenements, house, land, stable and everything thereto belonging as long as she can agree with the children or as long as my executors agrees or sees cause or as long as she remains a widow. 2. If his wife remarries, then his land is to be rented until the youngest child turns 14. 3. He gives to his children Nancy, Daniel, Froany, Joel, Israel, Elisabeth, and Barbara 233 pounds each of them. 4. The residue of the estate to be divided amongst âall my childrenâ; to wit: John, Susanna, Mary, Nancy, Daniel, Froany, Joel, Israel, Elizabeth, Barbara, and another child expected to be born. 5. The following children have already received a portion of their grandfatherâs estate: John, Susanna, and Mary. (The amount received by each of them was 233 pounds.) 6. Executors: âCossandâ (cousin?) Jacob Miller & Christian Stouffer. 7. Signed âJohannes Senger.â 8. Witnessed by John Shenck, Jacob Howenstine, and David Beshor. LancasterDeed 9-77: John Geiser & his wife Mary are residents of Washington County,Maryland. She is a daughter of John Singer, late of Cocalico tp., deceased.They have now received a certain sum from Abraham Frick & John Myers, Sr.,the executors of her late grandfather Christopher Royer. --18 May 1813 LancasterDeed 9-78: John Singer of Washington County, Maryland, is the son of JohnSinger, deceased, late of Cocalico tp., and the grandson of Christopher Royer,also deceased, late of the same. He has now received a certain sum from AbrahamFrick & John Myers, Sr., the executors of his late grandfather. --22 Mar 1814 Lancaster Deed 15-508: David Neff of WashingtonCounty, Maryland, is married to Susanna Singer, the daughter of John Singer,late of Cocalico tp. She is now of full age. They acknowledge having received acertain sum in and out of the estate of her late grandfather Christopher Royer. --18Nov 1818 Franklin Deed 15-80: John Singer, David Funk & his wifeSusanna, and John Geiser & his wife Mary rel.to Israel Singer --Theirright & title to 177A Washington tp.: HISTORY: Late the estate of JohnSinger, deceased. By his last will & testament dated 18 Apr 1810, JohnSinger devised the same to his heirs. Son Israel Singer, the second partyhereto, has agreed to purchase the property and make payments to the otherheirs in agreement with the provisions made in the said testament. The firstparty heretoâJohn Singer, Susanna Funk (who was formerly the widow of DavidNeff), and Mary Geiserâare children of the said John Singer, who were toreceive one equal part of the estate after the payment of certain otherlegacies. --20 Oct1829 --[Note: John Geiserâwho signed is nameâappears as JohnKyser in the document.] Proof of Migration from Washington County, Maryland, to Washington Township, Franklin County, Pennsylvania WashingtonCounty Deed L336: Isaac Houser, Jr., & his wife Susannah of WashingtonCounty grants to John Singer of same 14 1/2 a. Washington County, situateon Little Beaver Creek, part of the Resurvey of Saint Patrick: HISTORY: Notgiven. --30 June 1798 --NOTE:In the deed the follows, the same Isaac Houser grants part of the larger tractto one Jacob Durnback. FranklinCounty Deed 6-363: John Waggoner (the executor of Casper Waggoner, late ofWashington tp.) enf-rel.to John Senger of Washington County in the State ofMaryland --Two tracts: (1.) 113A, 155PWashington tp., a tract called Traxellâs Square; and (2.) 55A Washingon tp. 1. HISTORY: Same tract that Abraham Traxell sold to the said Casper Waggoner. Recorded 11 Nov 1768 in Philadelphia. 2. HISTORY: Same tract that Henry Snively granted to the said Casper Waggoner (Ref. Franklin Deed E259). --10 Apr 1804 Bonus: Jacob Dornbach married Eva Breitenstein, the daughter of Leonhard Breitenstein, in 1765 (see Waldschmidt's records). Washington County, Maryland, deed records show Jacob Dornach & his wife Eva selling property as late as 1804. One Martin Breitenstein owned adjoining property, sold to him by....John Singer. There appears to be a fairly large migration from the Cocalico area of Lancaster County into Washington County, Maryland, in the mid-1790's.

Thanks for all the suggestions, I really appreciate it. I see I need to come to Lancaster County to do research. Daniel owned some acreage, so the early burials could fall into a family cemetery that no longer exists. Thanks again, Bob Krebs

Good day, A lesson and some data. First, here is the Isaac Rohrer will abstract, at least as it appears in the online form of the old Pennsylvania Genealogical Society compilations: ROHRER, ISAAC Lampeter Twp.September 29, 1804 October 6, 1804Wife: Elizabe th Rohrer.Children: John, Ephraim, Joel, Christiana wife of Abraham Frick,Rebec ca, Salome and Mary wife of --- Singer.Grandchildren: John, Susanna and Mary Si nger.Ex.: William Webb, David Graff and Martin Rohrer. It has taken me quite some time, but I have proven that those grandchildren are the children of John Singer, my ancestor, who died in Washington tp., Franklin County, PA, in 1810. His will mentions those three children as already having received money from their grandfather's estate. Deed records in both Lancaster and Franklin prove those children and the family's migration. But that's another email. I, of course, was interested in the Rohrer family and spent quite some time compiling information while living far distant from Pennsylvania. Now here on a research trip, I had access to more records and wanted to get images of originals. But all the Isaac Rohrer estate information gave other children.... And then I found this: Lancaster Will I-386: Christopher Royer, yeoman, of Earl tp., writ. 26 Feb 1803,probated 1 Apr 1805. 1. He previously sold and conveyed his 130A plantation to his son Ephraim Royer, with the allowance that the testator and his wife Anna could dwell in the new built house for the remainder of their natural lives. The testator details the rights and privileges that should be enjoyed by his said wife. 2. To his son Joel Royer: The land on which he now dwells, to wit: 120A Earl tp., adjoining Abraham Grebill, late Jacob Carpenter (deceased), Abraham Carpenter, the Conestoga Creek, Christian Herman, and others. The testator values the plantation and orders Joel to pay that amount into his estate. 3. Son Daniel Royer has previously received 1,000 pounds as well as some articles of husbandry. He is thereby excluded from the monetary provisions in this will. 4. To the children of Sarah Baker, to wit: Jacob Baker, Maria Baker, Peggy Baker, Nancy Baker, and Catharine Baker: 25 pounds each when they attain the age of 21 years. [No relationship given.] 5. To his daughters Christina (who is intermarried with Abraham Frick), Rebecca, and Salome: 500 pounds each. 6. To the three children of my deceased daughter Mary, who was intermarried with John Singer, to wit: John, Susanna, and Mary: 500 pounds (one equal third to each). 7. To his son John Royer: 50 pounds. 8. The residue of his estate is to be divided into seven parts and paid to each of his children, to wit: John Royer, Ephraim Royer, Joel Royer, Christina (intermarried with Abraham Frick), Rebecca Royer, Salome Royer, and Mary Singer (deceased; to her aforenamed three children). 9. Executors: Son-in-law Abraham Frick of Manheim tp. and friend John Meyer of Earl tp. They are also named as the guardians of deceased daughter Maryâs three children. 10. Witnessed by Joel Carpenter, John Carpenter, and Christian Carpenter. A few points to draw for newcomers researching in Lancaster County: 1. Always check original documents. Clearly someone--either the original compiler or the publisher--erred, putting the wrong information with the wrong name. 2. The Lancaster will abstracts done under the auspices of the Pennsylvania Genealogical Society were incomplete. Sarah Baker and her children were completely omitted from the will abstract. The compilers for Lancaster usually only listed children and grandchildren. Nieces, nephews, cousins, unnamed relationships, etc., were almost always omitted. 3. The relationship of the executors was omitted by the compilers--even though the testators almost always gave this information. 4. Real estate information was entirely omitted, even though it is crucial. Early land transfers were often not recorded at the courthouse--you have to go to estate records. The abstract above is my own. The early wills really need to be re-done. Crazy people like me are happy to do it--it's just difficult to get hands on the records in an easily accessible way. Now, back to genealogy: Mary (Royer) Singer, wife of John, died about 1791. John Singer then allegedly married Mary Dambach. I am working on proving Mary's descent. I am certain that her surname is Dornbach--an early Cocalico family. Jacob Dornbach and John Singer appear in Cocalico tp. tax records until 1792, when they disappear. Next, they both appear purchasing adjoining land from Isaac Houser in Washington County, Maryland, in 1798. John Singer sold his land and purchased a plantation in Washington tp., Franklin County, in 1804. In his estate file, he held a bond that had been formerly owing to Jacob Dornbach/Durnbaugh from John Friedly, to whom Jacob had sold part of his land (per Washington County, Maryland, deed records). It is not proven yet, but I am certain that John Singer married Jacob's daughter Mary/Maria Dornbach. I would appreciate any information from early Dornbach/Durnbach/Durnbaugh researchers. *

Hi, Thanks so much for all your help regarding the obituary of Mrs. Rufus Gingrich! Now, I just need the death date of Thomas S. Quinn, Jr. who died in Lancaster Co. some time around 1999,'00,'01, '02. Thanks, David

David, I found Thomas S. Quinn born 2/4/1916 died 5/19/1997 Lebanon Co. PA Thomas S. Quinn born 3/18/1907 died 1/15/1997 Erie Co., PA Thomas S. Quinn born 5/15/1913 died 12/6/1993 Lycoming Co., PA I didn't find anyone in Lancaster Co., PA. If you give me a birth year, that might help. Lucy On Jul 26, 2011, at 4:04 AM, David J. Bachman wrote: > Hi, > Thanks so much for all your help regarding the obituary of > Mrs. Rufus Gingrich! > > Now, I just need the death date of Thomas S. Quinn, Jr. > who died in Lancaster Co. some time around 1999,'00,'01, '02. > > Thanks, > David > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PALANCAS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Hi, I am thrilled to see Maytown mentioned on the Lancaster list. I have quite a few ancestors who lived in Maytown and are buried there, some as recent as the mid-1900's and many earlier (my grandparents and great-grandparents). But I have some who do go back to the 1800's also. One cemetery that I believe has not been mentioned to you yet is the Maytown Union Cemetery which is where my g parents and gg parents are buried, along with some of my g mother's siblings who died young. Maytown Union Cem. is directly behind and adjacent to the St. John's Evangelical Lutheran Cemetery (which is probably what you referred to as Maytown Lutheran Cemetery). It is back the road along side of the Lutheran Church and I believe the name of the cemetery is on a brick pillar back there. My grandparents and g grandparents attended the Reformed (United Church of Christ) Church but for some unknown reason are not buried there, but down the road in the Maytown Union Cemetery. I do have other ancestors buried in the Reformed Cemetery also. I have been to all 2 of those cemeteries and taken pictures. I have had correspondence from both Rev. Lascalette at the Lutheran Church and he has been very helpful in the past in checking his church records for me. However, at the Reformed Church the records are not held somewhere else, and at the moment I don't remember where. I have had hopes for the past year of making a trip to the Lancaster area and looking at the records myself, but just haven't gotten there yet. Hope this has helped you at least a little. Sue Lupinacci, researching Dibeler/Deibler, Jacobs, Lentz, and others On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Bob Krebs <rnkrebs@wcnet.org> wrote: > > I'm looking for suggestions on finding the graves of my fourth and third > great grandfathers, Daniel Gilman died in 1790 and Nicholas in 1804 in > Maytown. They switched back and forth between the Reformed and > Lutheran Churches in Maytown. Their graves are not in the Maytown > Lutheran Church Cemetery. I have checked both churches records for > their funerals with no results. Most of the Reformed records are > missing. I've not been able to find any other local cemeteries. > > > Thanks very much, > > > Bob Krebs > Bowling Green, OH > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PALANCAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Bob, Early cemeteries in Maytown area: Donegal Presbyterian Church; church founded in 1721; church records date from 1786; I'm not sure when burial records were started. Maytown Reformed Cemetery, started c1769; burial records begin 1840. St. John's Lutheran Cemetery, started 1765; burial records from 1771-1781, 1812-1821, 1847-1887, etc. Kraybill Mennonite Cemetery, started c1812. Christ Lutheran Cemetery in Elizabethtown, started 1772; burial records from 1779-1782, 1812-1921. Mount Tunnel Cemetery in Elizabethtown; gravestones from other cemeteries, including Donegal/Mount Joy/Blasser's Reformed Church in Elizabethtown, were moved here; earliest records apparently c1815. There are other cemeteries in surrounding Mount Joy and West Donegal townships. I have done a lot of research in the Maytown and Donegal area, and I have many ancestors who died there. Most of my early ancestors (up to around 1830-50), were buried on the family farm. This includes those with substantial land and personal property. This was very common in Lancaster County. Stones may have been erected, but most are now gone. The book "Churches and Cemeteries of Lancaster County" points out the many cemeteries shown in maps from the mid-1800s that cannot be located today. I have one case where headstones were erected for my Maytown Lutheran ancestors 50 years after they died - and placed in a Brethren cemetery in Mount Joy. Wills and deeds prove they were buried on their farm, so I'm confident the Brethren cemetery does not contain their bodies. Many of the early church records do not include burial records, or they exist sporadically. Most of the compiled cemetery records were put together in the mid-1900s. Therefore you won't find records for those buried without headstones or for those with destroyed or unreadable headstones. Early burial records are frequently sporadic because the pastors took their records with them when they left. Only some of those records survive. Rev. Henry Shaffner, for example, served the Maytown Reformed Church from 1808 to 1835, taking his records with him. His records, in German, can be found at the Lancaster Co Historical Society and on microfilm from the FHL. I have found several family deaths in his records, but usually there is no corresponding headstone in the cemetery. There's no way to know whether they were buried at home, buried without a headstone, or the stone is now gone. (These are particularly great records. Shaffner frequently named the parents of the deceased.) Sometimes you can get burial clues in wills ("I am to be buried in the family graveyard"). I have one will in which a son set aside money to build an iron fence around the family plot. This plot, mentioned in three different wills (from 1850 to 1870) cannot be found today. Estate records may also give you some sense of how the deceased was buried. Accounts filed by the administrator should include payments for burial items: coffin, headstone, burying cloth, etc. Frequently you will find a coffin listed but no headstone. Good luck. You are researching within a challenging time period. Pam . --- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Krebs" <rnkrebs@wcnet.org> To: <palancas@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 9:32 AM Subject: [PALANCAS] Maytown burials > > I'm looking for suggestions on finding the graves of my fourth and third > great grandfathers, Daniel Gilman died in 1790 and Nicholas in 1804 in > Maytown. They switched back and forth between the Reformed and > Lutheran Churches in Maytown. Their graves are not in the Maytown > Lutheran Church Cemetery. I have checked both churches records for > their funerals with no results. Most of the Reformed records are > missing. I've not been able to find any other local cemeteries. > > > Thanks very much, > > > Bob Krebs > Bowling Green, OH > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PALANCAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I'm looking for suggestions on finding the graves of my fourth and third great grandfathers, Daniel Gilman died in 1790 and Nicholas in 1804 in Maytown. They switched back and forth between the Reformed and Lutheran Churches in Maytown. Their graves are not in the Maytown Lutheran Church Cemetery. I have checked both churches records for their funerals with no results. Most of the Reformed records are missing. I've not been able to find any other local cemeteries. Thanks very much, Bob Krebs Bowling Green, OH