Yes. I had it done with 23andme some time ago. I know Dick Eastman recently wrote about changes in the company's policy and he no longer recommends them as a result...so be sure to read his column on his Website if you don't subscribe to the newsletter. Prices change over time and 23andme and other companies offer whole genome testing and it doesn't have to be all that expensive. Keep in mind that testing autosomal DNA at this point in time can't tell you a specific ancestor that is the source of a particular gene but it can give you information about ethnicity on all sides of your pedigree. I can only speak from my experience with 23andme and I've found cousins using their relative finder that I'd never have found through mtDNA and being female Y DNA testing is not an option for me. I made contact in one instance with a 3rd cousin and our relationship is based upon my father's mother's mother and his mother's father's mother being sisters. We shared more than 90% of our X chromosomes and a segment of chromosome 2. Males only have a single X chromosome and females have 2. Males inherit their X from their mother only (plus a Y from their father) and females get an X from each parent. My X from my father matches his X from his mother -- our paper trails gave us the proof we needed to confirm the match. Joan In a message dated 1/6/2012 6:03:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, MyRootz2@aol.com writes: Has anyone on list ever had this done? If so, I'm sure it was pretty expensive. Melissa

Thanks for all replies. I have come across other family lines who arrived with the Marie Warmbauer's group who also claim there is native American in their line from the same region as Conrad Hoak. Neff's and Nace's to particular. Its not so far fetched to at least ponder the possibility.I remember reading somewhere that these unions did take place but the Indian was gi ven a Christian name so it is very often impossible to identify them. I am more concerned with identifying the individuals than I am chasing rumors but you know we have to keep an open mind. ... whole genome testing WILL identify all lines in your ancestry as to ethnicity/Race. Has anyone on list ever had this done? If so, I'm sure it was pretty expensive. Melissa

Nancy- Reread my message...that is PRECISELY what I said, but whole genome testing WILL identify all lines in your ancestry as to ethnicity/Race. Joan In a message dated 1/6/2012 4:18:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, nlwross@hotmail.com writes: Just remember that a Y DNA test only tests you father's father's father, etc. And the MtDNA test only tests your mother's mother's mother's line. This leaves most of your genealogical ancestor lines untested--so, you could still have Native American blood there someplace. Nancy Welty Ross Researching:Welty,Whaling,Allen,Buck, Lovelace,Doyle,Taylor,Greer,Ruble,Tyler,West,Rankin IL/TN/NC/VA/KY/MD/PA > From: JYoung6180@aol.com > Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 15:14:22 -0500 > To: palancas@rootsweb.com; lumackie@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [PALANCAS] Conrad Hoak 1711 Strasburg > > Whole Genome DNA testing will reliably tell you about ethnicity and/or > Native American or other Asian ancestry back to about the 3rd > great-grandparents. Beyond that, it can be iffy whether it shows up. Y-DNA and mtDNA > testing, of course, only tell you about the top line of the pedigree and the > bottom line...and there can be other ethnicities along the other lines. > > My genome testing shows that I'm 100% Northern European but beyond that you > can't really break it down to specific countries based upon DNA because > even in ancient times our ancestors migrated from place to place. For > example, even though I'm 100% Northern European I have a non-ABO blood antigen > that is very rare and only found in 8% of Northern Europeans. It is rare in > ALL populations but where it originated is in the Arab population in the > Middle East where 25% of the Arab population carry it. So someone migrated from > the Arab population who carried the mutation and that is where all of the > 8% of Northern Europeans who carry the antigen inherited it. So far, > everyone I've talked to who also has 100% Northern European heritage plus carries > this particular antigen has some Scotch-Irish blood...and that is the only > thing we have in common...so some ancestor traveled from the Middle East > many years ago and brought the mutation into a small portion of the Scottish > and Scotch-Irish population. > > Joan > > > In a message dated 1/6/2012 1:05:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > skeezicks1957@mchsi.com writes: > > My family had one of those rumors. Our DNA test showed no Native > American but a strong line of Eastern European while I had been able > to find mostly Western European in my paper trail. But I was going > back to only immigration and if you think about it, lots of migration > has taken place in Europe over history. I still haven't found any > Hungararian/Romanian people but Pennsylvania Dutch and Irish could be > quite a mixture in general. I have read about those "Dark German" > that no one knows exactly why they are dark. So my high cheek bones > have another origin that time will tell as I continue to dig. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PALANCAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PALANCAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just remember that a Y DNA test only tests you father's father's father, etc. And the MtDNA test only tests your mother's mother's mother's line. This leaves most of your genealogical ancestor lines untested--so, you could still have Native American blood there someplace. Nancy Welty Ross Researching:Welty,Whaling,Allen,Buck, Lovelace,Doyle,Taylor,Greer,Ruble,Tyler,West,Rankin IL/TN/NC/VA/KY/MD/PA > From: JYoung6180@aol.com > Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 15:14:22 -0500 > To: palancas@rootsweb.com; lumackie@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [PALANCAS] Conrad Hoak 1711 Strasburg > > Whole Genome DNA testing will reliably tell you about ethnicity and/or > Native American or other Asian ancestry back to about the 3rd > great-grandparents. Beyond that, it can be iffy whether it shows up. Y-DNA and mtDNA > testing, of course, only tell you about the top line of the pedigree and the > bottom line...and there can be other ethnicities along the other lines. > > My genome testing shows that I'm 100% Northern European but beyond that you > can't really break it down to specific countries based upon DNA because > even in ancient times our ancestors migrated from place to place. For > example, even though I'm 100% Northern European I have a non-ABO blood antigen > that is very rare and only found in 8% of Northern Europeans. It is rare in > ALL populations but where it originated is in the Arab population in the > Middle East where 25% of the Arab population carry it. So someone migrated from > the Arab population who carried the mutation and that is where all of the > 8% of Northern Europeans who carry the antigen inherited it. So far, > everyone I've talked to who also has 100% Northern European heritage plus carries > this particular antigen has some Scotch-Irish blood...and that is the only > thing we have in common...so some ancestor traveled from the Middle East > many years ago and brought the mutation into a small portion of the Scottish > and Scotch-Irish population. > > Joan > > > In a message dated 1/6/2012 1:05:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > skeezicks1957@mchsi.com writes: > > My family had one of those rumors. Our DNA test showed no Native > American but a strong line of Eastern European while I had been able > to find mostly Western European in my paper trail. But I was going > back to only immigration and if you think about it, lots of migration > has taken place in Europe over history. I still haven't found any > Hungararian/Romanian people but Pennsylvania Dutch and Irish could be > quite a mixture in general. I have read about those "Dark German" > that no one knows exactly why they are dark. So my high cheek bones > have another origin that time will tell as I continue to dig. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PALANCAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Whole Genome DNA testing will reliably tell you about ethnicity and/or Native American or other Asian ancestry back to about the 3rd great-grandparents. Beyond that, it can be iffy whether it shows up. Y-DNA and mtDNA testing, of course, only tell you about the top line of the pedigree and the bottom line...and there can be other ethnicities along the other lines. My genome testing shows that I'm 100% Northern European but beyond that you can't really break it down to specific countries based upon DNA because even in ancient times our ancestors migrated from place to place. For example, even though I'm 100% Northern European I have a non-ABO blood antigen that is very rare and only found in 8% of Northern Europeans. It is rare in ALL populations but where it originated is in the Arab population in the Middle East where 25% of the Arab population carry it. So someone migrated from the Arab population who carried the mutation and that is where all of the 8% of Northern Europeans who carry the antigen inherited it. So far, everyone I've talked to who also has 100% Northern European heritage plus carries this particular antigen has some Scotch-Irish blood...and that is the only thing we have in common...so some ancestor traveled from the Middle East many years ago and brought the mutation into a small portion of the Scottish and Scotch-Irish population. Joan In a message dated 1/6/2012 1:05:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, skeezicks1957@mchsi.com writes: My family had one of those rumors. Our DNA test showed no Native American but a strong line of Eastern European while I had been able to find mostly Western European in my paper trail. But I was going back to only immigration and if you think about it, lots of migration has taken place in Europe over history. I still haven't found any Hungararian/Romanian people but Pennsylvania Dutch and Irish could be quite a mixture in general. I have read about those "Dark German" that no one knows exactly why they are dark. So my high cheek bones have another origin that time will tell as I continue to dig.

My family had one of those rumors. Our DNA test showed no Native American but a strong line of Eastern European while I had been able to find mostly Western European in my paper trail. But I was going back to only immigration and if you think about it, lots of migration has taken place in Europe over history. I still haven't found any Hungararian/Romanian people but Pennsylvania Dutch and Irish could be quite a mixture in general. I have read about those "Dark German" that no one knows exactly why they are dark. So my high cheek bones have another origin that time will tell as I continue to dig. On Jan 6, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Brownie MacKie wrote: > Melissa...you wrote: There is a rumor through the family lines, > even very > distant cousins have > hear it, that we have Native American Indian in our line. Is it > possible > that he may have taken a Indian girl as a bride? > > It's not probable. Those family rumors go on and on and on. Many > people > have had their DNA done to determine their ethnic background only to > find > they're 100% Northern European. > > > On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 1:33 AM, <MyRootz2@aol.com> wrote: > >> >> Conrad Hoak is given as one of the original 1711 land patent >> holders who >> arrived with Madame Marie Ferree. >> I have not been able to locate any other records on this man or his >> family. >> I descend from a Johannes Hage s/o dec'd Conrad who married a >> Catharine >> Frey d/o dec'd Johannes Frey in Cocalico Twp by Rev Waldschmit in >> 1781. >> >> According to Johanne's head stone at St Lukes Cemetery in >> Chanceford Twp. >> York Co he died in 1811 in his 56 th year. This would make him >> born about >> 1754-55. He and Catharine settled in York Co in 1787 after Catharine >> Frey's >> step father, Benedict Bucher Sr died. Her mother is left 200 pounds >> (including the 60 pounds of John Heck _.... >> >> I feel certain that this family is tied to Strasburg/Conestoga >> Hage's. As >> many Hages married into the Bowman lines as well as >> Schenk's.Christian >> Schenk's daughter Barbara born abt 1702 was widow of John Bowman. >> A few >> months >> after John's passing she married second a Conrad Hoke in Aug 1761. >> He >> would >> have been about the right age for the original Conrad mentioned >> above. At >> their age no issue would have been probable but I have to believe >> that >> Conrad was married before. >> >> There is a rumor through the family lines, even very distant >> cousins have >> hear it, that we have Native American Indian in our line. Is it >> possible >> that he may have taken a Indian girl as a bride? They were >> peaceable in >> the >> beginning. Would any records of children born to such an union been >> recorded >> back then? >> >> Wm Penn wrote in his early accounts of the Susquehannock Indian's >> that >> they were giants. My great grand father William Hake died in 1897 >> and was >> the >> tallest man in York Co at 7' 2" He was buried along the river at Long >> Level's Ebeneezer UM Church cemetery. As the river has flooded the >> grave >> yard in >> previous years very few headstones remain. >> >> Any clues, ideas, lookups etc would be appreciated. I have had to >> give up >> my Ancestry subscription ( didn't locate anything there on him >> anyway). >> >> Thanks for reading, >> Melissa >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PALANCAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PALANCAS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Melissa...you wrote: There is a rumor through the family lines, even very distant cousins have hear it, that we have Native American Indian in our line. Is it possible that he may have taken a Indian girl as a bride? It's not probable. Those family rumors go on and on and on. Many people have had their DNA done to determine their ethnic background only to find they're 100% Northern European. On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 1:33 AM, <MyRootz2@aol.com> wrote: > > Conrad Hoak is given as one of the original 1711 land patent holders who > arrived with Madame Marie Ferree. > I have not been able to locate any other records on this man or his family. > I descend from a Johannes Hage s/o dec'd Conrad who married a Catharine > Frey d/o dec'd Johannes Frey in Cocalico Twp by Rev Waldschmit in 1781. > > According to Johanne's head stone at St Lukes Cemetery in Chanceford Twp. > York Co he died in 1811 in his 56 th year. This would make him born about > 1754-55. He and Catharine settled in York Co in 1787 after Catharine > Frey's > step father, Benedict Bucher Sr died. Her mother is left 200 pounds > (including the 60 pounds of John Heck _.... > > I feel certain that this family is tied to Strasburg/Conestoga Hage's. As > many Hages married into the Bowman lines as well as Schenk's.Christian > Schenk's daughter Barbara born abt 1702 was widow of John Bowman. A few > months > after John's passing she married second a Conrad Hoke in Aug 1761. He > would > have been about the right age for the original Conrad mentioned above. At > their age no issue would have been probable but I have to believe that > Conrad was married before. > > There is a rumor through the family lines, even very distant cousins have > hear it, that we have Native American Indian in our line. Is it possible > that he may have taken a Indian girl as a bride? They were peaceable in > the > beginning. Would any records of children born to such an union been > recorded > back then? > > Wm Penn wrote in his early accounts of the Susquehannock Indian's that > they were giants. My great grand father William Hake died in 1897 and was > the > tallest man in York Co at 7' 2" He was buried along the river at Long > Level's Ebeneezer UM Church cemetery. As the river has flooded the grave > yard in > previous years very few headstones remain. > > Any clues, ideas, lookups etc would be appreciated. I have had to give up > my Ancestry subscription ( didn't locate anything there on him anyway). > > Thanks for reading, > Melissa > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PALANCAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Conrad Hoak is given as one of the original 1711 land patent holders who arrived with Madame Marie Ferree. I have not been able to locate any other records on this man or his family. I descend from a Johannes Hage s/o dec'd Conrad who married a Catharine Frey d/o dec'd Johannes Frey in Cocalico Twp by Rev Waldschmit in 1781. According to Johanne's head stone at St Lukes Cemetery in Chanceford Twp. York Co he died in 1811 in his 56 th year. This would make him born about 1754-55. He and Catharine settled in York Co in 1787 after Catharine Frey's step father, Benedict Bucher Sr died. Her mother is left 200 pounds (including the 60 pounds of John Heck _.... I feel certain that this family is tied to Strasburg/Conestoga Hage's. As many Hages married into the Bowman lines as well as Schenk's.Christian Schenk's daughter Barbara born abt 1702 was widow of John Bowman. A few months after John's passing she married second a Conrad Hoke in Aug 1761. He would have been about the right age for the original Conrad mentioned above. At their age no issue would have been probable but I have to believe that Conrad was married before. There is a rumor through the family lines, even very distant cousins have hear it, that we have Native American Indian in our line. Is it possible that he may have taken a Indian girl as a bride? They were peaceable in the beginning. Would any records of children born to such an union been recorded back then? Wm Penn wrote in his early accounts of the Susquehannock Indian's that they were giants. My great grand father William Hake died in 1897 and was the tallest man in York Co at 7' 2" He was buried along the river at Long Level's Ebeneezer UM Church cemetery. As the river has flooded the grave yard in previous years very few headstones remain. Any clues, ideas, lookups etc would be appreciated. I have had to give up my Ancestry subscription ( didn't locate anything there on him anyway). Thanks for reading, Melissa

Hi all, Best wishes for a healthy and prosperous 2012. It's also time for me to make my annual inquiry about Robert Anderson. I hope somebody here can help to establish the identity of any of his ancestors or siblings. Butler county history biography of his son Irwin Anderson states that his father was "a soldier of the Revolution, descended from a pioneer family of Lancaster county, whither they had emigrated from Ireland prior to the Revolution". Robert Anderson was born about 1756. The Anderson family of Donegal is well documented in chapter 5 of "Pennsylvania: Genealogies Chiefly Scotch-Irish and German" by William Henry Egle. My Robert Anderson does not appear to be among them. The DAR database lists three Robert Andersons who died in PA (mine died in 1841 and is buried in Allegheny county), none of whom are mine. The PA Archives documents 5 Robert Andersons who are listed in the Revolutionary War militia roles: one each from Colerain, East Strasburg, and Elizabeth townships, and two from Leacock township; Robert Andersons Sr and Jr. The Robert Anderson Jr. of Leacock remains the most interesting and mysterious. Robert Anderson Sr. of Leacock died in Dec 1778 and his only son named Robert was born in 1776 - way too young to have served in the militia during the Revolution. So who was Robert Anderson Jr of Leacock? My best guess is he was a nephew of Robert Anderson Sr of Leacock, perhaps a son of his brother James Anderson (my Robert Anderson's eldest son's name was James). Any help or information on this James Anderson family from Leacock will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jim Strutz

I have been away from this list for quite awhile because of health reasons, but I'm going re-post some family information to see if something new pops up. My GGGGrandfather: James ROBINSON - b. 1782 Pa. & d. cir 1860?? Kirks Mills, Little Britain Twp. Farmer ( Was not Quaker), maybe Presbyterian. wife: CATHERINE unkn. maiden name. b. same time period & d. abt 1850 - 1860. 1. Dau. Margaret b. 1815 & d. ???? know nothing. 2. Son [My GGGrandfather] John b. 1820 & d. East Nottingham Twp. 1857, Shoemaker, mar. Elinor Williams 1846 Pa. 3. Son William b. 1821 & d. unkn. Shoemaker, Kirks Mills. 2nd wife Ann E. William had 3 sons and a dau. So if there are any tiny leads anyone can come up with such as where buried, or Church records, anything...... It's been awhile since I could find a clue. Thank You for any help, Tim Robinson WebSite http://wigginton2008.com

The current issue of the journal of Lancaster County Historical Society, now "Lancaster History," includes a tantalizing article that involves one Bernard Hubley (d. 1803), a member of Trinity Lutheran Church. I am involved in research in the history of Grace Lutheran Church, a daughter congregation of Trinity, which began as a branch Sunday School in 1855 on the first block of West James Street, Lancaster, moved to several other locations, and ended up on East James. The first and temporary superintendent was one John W. Hubley, a Trinity Lutheran member, who also became a member of the first congregation council when the congregation was founded in 1874. He died 19 Sept 1888. Interestingly, he was a drummer by avocation. Can anyone help me draw a fairly direct line either from the above-mentioned Bernard Hubley to this John W. Hubley OR show any relationship of said John W. Hubley to the Hubley toy company? Many thanks. Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA

A small home for women seems to have operated in the 1890's, if not longer, at 330 - 332 North Queen Street, Lancaster, the first site of Lancaster General Hospital before they moved into the mansion they bought on North Lime Street, where they remain -- and in a greatly expanded facility, of course. When the hospital vacated their first site, a women's facility named Greenwald Retreat existed there, to a a greater or lesser degree identified with nearby-by Grace Lutheran Church, whose pastor The Rev. Dr. C. Elvin Haupt was a co-founder of the hospital and an on-going member of the board of directors until his death in 1920. Haupt took a leading hand in naming the retreat for the former pastor of Trinity Lutheran Church, Lancaster, The Rev. Dr. Emanuel Greenwald, Haupt's hero of sorts and of whom Haupt wrote a biography published in a rather short print-run by the VonDersmith printing folks of Lancaster. (Copies of the Haupt book about Greenwald are fairly rare.) I would be enormously grateful to learn ANY information about the Greenwald Retreat. Thanks for your help. Dr. Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA

William Z. Roy was my first cousin twice removed. Here is the FGS for him. I also have several generations of ancestry if you are interested. You also might try your query on ROY-L Listserv. What is your relationship to him? Bill Roy Family Group Sheet Subject* William Zahm ROY (641) Birth* __ Jul 1871 Marriage* 5 Jun 1900 Lancaster, Lancaster, PA. Death* 14 Oct 1937 Lancaster, Lancaster, PA. Father* William Henry ROY (640) (b. 30 Jan 1847, d. 26 Apr 1910) Mother* Susan Elizabeth ZAHM (759) (b. 23 Mar 1849, d. 1920) __________________________________________________________________________ Spouse* Elizabeth Landis DUNLAP (232) Birth* __ Mar 1878 Death* after __ ___ 1937 Father* Mother* Lydia (--?--) (2328) (b. 1856) __________________________________________________________________________ Three Known Children __________________________________________________________________________ M Robert Dunlap ROY (633) Birth* 18 Sep 1901 Lancaster, Lancaster, PA. Christning: 31 Mar 1902 Trinity Lutheran, Lancaster, Lancaster, PA. Death* 5 Oct 1902 Lancaster, Lancaster, PA. __________________________________________________________________________ F Miriam Pauline ROY (628) Birth* 19 Jul 1903 Lancaster, Lancaster, PA. Marriage* 28 Jun 1930 Fred SHEPHERD (12); Lancaster, Lancaster, PA. __________________________________________________________________________ F A. Louise ROY (597) Birth* __ ___ 1906 __________________________________________________________________________ Printed on: 27 Nov 2011 Prepared by: William Roy 2704 Angelo Dr Los Angeles, CA 90077 billroy@ucla.edu

Do you have Christina Ernst married to Henry Fetter at Lancaster, PA Surnames (Becky:) BURGESS, GRANSDEN, HAVENS, RAY, BISSETT, MCCUMBER /MACOMBER, MILLER, POTTER, SMITH, TOMLIN, YOUNG (Dan:) CARGILL, CARR, DRAGOO, ERNST, FETTER (s), FEATHER, FORTMAN, KATTERMAN, KEESECKER, KNIGHT, LAYMAN, MONROE, MILLER, ST. JOHN, SLICE-SLISE, SWITZER

Hi, Karl: Findagrave has info and a photo of his, his wife's, & son's tombstone: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi? page=gr&GSln=roy&GSfn=william&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=40&GScntry=4& GSob=n&GRid=31129038&df=all& Lancaster Cemetery, Lancaster, Lancaster Co., PA William Z. Roy (1871 - 1937) Bessie D. Roy (1879 - 1961) Robert D. Roy (1901 - 1902) Series: T9 Roll: 1142 Page: 119 1880 - 447 W. Chestnut St., 5-WD; Lancaster, Lancaster Co., PA - 6/5/1880 Roy, William H. - w - m - 33 - married - book-binder --- Sue - w - f - 31 - wife - married - keeping house --- Willie - w - m - 9 - son - single - at school --- Lillian - w - f - 1 - dau. - single PA/PA/PA for all. Series: T623 Roll: 1424 Page: 14 1900 - Lancaster Twp., Lancaster Co., PA - 6/19-20/1900 Roy, William - head - w - m - 6/1872 - 27 - married/0 years - bookbinder - own/mortgage/house --- Bessie - wife - w - f - 3/1878 - 22 - married/0 years PA/PA/PA for both. Series: T625 Roll: 1583 Page: 69 1920 - 1023 Woods Ave., Lancaster, Lancaster Co., PA - 1/5/1920 Roy, William Z. - head - own/mortgage - m - w - 4...* - married - binder/books --- Bessie L. - wife - f - w - 43 - married --- Miriam - . - dau. - f - w - 16 - single --- Louise A. - dau. - f - w - 14 - single Dunlap, Lydia K. - mother-in-law - f - w - 64 - widowed PA/PA/PA for all. *unclear, indexed as 49 Hope this is helpful. Good luck with your search! Debra On Nov 26, 2011, at 1:32 PM, Karl Moyer wrote: > Hi again, > > Can anyone help with information about Wm. Z. Roy, a turn-of-the > century printer with shop on the west side of the first block of > South Queen Street? He was also an organist and choir director, > both at Grace Lutheran Church and later at Emanuel Lutheran Church. > > I would be especially grateful to know his death date. > > Thanks. > > Karl E. Moyer > Lancaster PA >

Please disregard and ignore this message request. Thank you. Julia > From: the_guthrie_tree@live.com > To: palancas-l@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 08:55:32 -0700 > Subject: [PALANCAS] Rev. Johannes "John" ERNST > > > > > > > > Requesting help!!! > Any clues are greatly appreciated. > > > > Looking for...does anyone have the parents and/or siblings > of: > > Rev. Johannes "John" ERNST, b. 22 February 1744, d. 30 August 1804 York Co, PA. > > About 1790 he migrated from the Conestoga Settlement in Lancaster > County to York > County. > > > > We are deeply grateful > for any information that can be shared. > > > > Thank you. > > > > Julia > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PALANCAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Karl, There is some information on this web site, which confirms your memory. John Engle, Waterville, Maine www.gracelutheranchurch.com/Pages/History.html On Nov 26, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Karl Moyer wrote: > Can anyone fill me in re. Madam Cotta College and Lancaster College, both in Lancaster City near the close of the 19th century and into at least the early 20th? Both were in some way connected with Grace Lutheran Church, Lancaster, but I seem to remember also hearing or reading somewhere that the former became a predecessor of sorts to Shippen School for Girls, though I'm very vague about that. If that is so, then Madam Cotta College was a predecessor of present-day Lancaster Country Day School as well. Presumably both were institutions secondary education and not post-high "college" as we now usually use the term. > > Anyone know locations for these two, perhaps dates, and even more? > > Thanks. > > Karl E. Moyer > Lancaster PA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PALANCAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi again, Can anyone help with information about Wm. Z. Roy, a turn-of-the century printer with shop on the west side of the first block of South Queen Street? He was also an organist and choir director, both at Grace Lutheran Church and later at Emanuel Lutheran Church. I would be especially grateful to know his death date. Thanks. Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA

Can anyone fill me in re. Madam Cotta College and Lancaster College, both in Lancaster City near the close of the 19th century and into at least the early 20th? Both were in some way connected with Grace Lutheran Church, Lancaster, but I seem to remember also hearing or reading somewhere that the former became a predecessor of sorts to Shippen School for Girls, though I'm very vague about that. If that is so, then Madam Cotta College was a predecessor of present-day Lancaster Country Day School as well. Presumably both were institutions secondary education and not post-high "college" as we now usually use the term. Anyone know locations for these two, perhaps dates, and even more? Thanks. Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA

Julia and Daniel,   I am a descendant of Johannes Ernst and have much information to share. Please contact me at: msugumele@yahoo.com Marcia McClure Sugumele Richmond, VA ________________________________ From: Julia and Daniel Guthrie <the_guthrie_tree@live.com> To: palancas-l@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 10:55 AM Subject: [PALANCAS] Rev. Johannes "John" ERNST Requesting help!!! Any clues are greatly appreciated. Looking for...does anyone have the parents and/or siblings of: Rev. Johannes "John" ERNST, b. 22 February 1744, d. 30 August 1804 York Co, PA. About 1790 he migrated from the Conestoga Settlement in Lancaster County to York County. We  are deeply grateful for any information that can be shared. Thank you. Julia                         ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PALANCAS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message