Lessor or lessee? Probably not? Connie > Thank you to all for your assistance. > Line 27: James Mitchell, Less, 50 Acres, 2 Horses, 4 Cattle

I know people often assume that an inmate is married but I believe that is a mistake. Granted, an unmarried man couldn't operate his own household, he had to be married if he lived in a tennent house or maintained his own household. Here is my reasoning. An unmarried man might live with the family he worked for (not have his own household) but as long as he had something that might be taxed, a horse, a cow, a dog, he would show up on the tax list as an inmate. In another situation the hired hand might be the son of a neighbor and living with his family, as long as he owned something taxable he would appear on the tax list as an inmate. There was nothing in Pa. law that required an inmate to be married, probably most were but I can think of lots of instances where one might not have been married. I think it better to simply avoid the question of whether an inmate was married because there is nothing about being an inmate that requires someone to be married. He may have been married but maybe not, its probably better not to assume he was. Jim . Brian Bowers <bebowers@hotmail.com> wrote: As you can see from all of our responses, different counties (and different) eras applied these terms in slightly different ways. One of the best descriptions of tax terms comes from the Chester County Archives Web site. From my experience, it seems that Chester County applied the terms in the same manner as Lancaster County (its next-door neighbor). Here goes: 18th-Century Tax Records With very few exceptions, Chester County Archives (CCA) has all of the surviving 18th century Chester County tax records. Records are extant for 1715, 1718-1740, 1747-1800 (bulk dates – there are years within these time spans for which tax records have not survived or taxes were not collected). All 18th-century records held by CCA were microfilmed by the Pennsylvania Historical and Museum Commission. They are arranged in three series, designated by the letter "C" for County, "P" for Provincial, and "S" for State. Each tax is labeled with specific information as to statute, the date ordered, and the dates of returns and appeals. A complete set of this film is available at the Chester County Historical Society Library (CCHS) and at CCA. Access to the original records is limited as they are fragile. For ease of use, photocopies of the following taxes are available in the CCA reading room: 1715, 1718-1732 (all extant records within time span), 1765, 1767, 1780, 1783, 1796, 1799, 1802. The taxation process generated three types of tax records: return of taxables (list of names with taxable property, no value assigned) assessment (list of names with taxable property with values) rates (list of names with amount of tax – there may be a second set of adjusted rates drawn up after appeals) All pre-1765 tax records at CCA are rates, with the exception of a 1726 return for Thornbury. CCA also has photocopies of rates for 1693 and 1696 and the return for 1760 (originals at the Historical Society of Pennsylvania). There are four categories of taxables: landholder – held land by lease or deed (PA taxed the occupant) inmate – married or widowed, landless (contract labor) freeman – single, free man at least 21 years of age (as of 1718). Had to be out of servitude or apprenticeship at least 6 months at time of tax. Taxation of freemen was inconsistent. It appears that before 1755 single men living with their parents were not taxed. nonresident landowner – owner of unseated (unoccupied) land In practice, the very poor or infirm were dropped from the tax rolls. The only surviving pre-1765 return (1726, Thornbury) lists people who are not on the 1726 tax rate. For example, Eleanor Clues ("a poor widdow woman never yet assessed") and Charles Howel ("he is a poor man has a wife & one child") only appear on the return. There is no reason to believe that assessors in other townships were not making similar judgments. Certain tax records provide additional information. State taxes to fund the Revolutionary War often include notations as to whether a person supported the Revolution. The 1783 state tax gives the number of white and black inhabitants in each household, as well as the number of buildings on the property. The 1796 and 1799 county taxes often provide some description of buildings. Brian ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== No political statements to this list. No religious statements. --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

Dan: you should write to Archive Divison, Lancaster County Court HOuse, 50 North Duke St Lancaster Pa 17602 717 299 8319 remember they are probably very busy and have lots of other wils to look up and send. question: could Feather Ever come out as Fetter. I have someone here who comes into the local family history center researching the name Fetter Joe Wolfe On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 21:12:51 -0500 "Dan Fetters" <dfetters@mindnet.org> writes: > Can someone provide the person and address that I can get copies of > wills > for my ancestors in the county? > I emailed whom I thought was the probable officer but have never > gotten a > reply. > > These are: > Henry Feather - Cocalico Twp 8 APR 1811 > Bertrand Feather - Cocalico 7 JUN 1816 > Gertraut Feather - Warwick Twp 19 JUL 1794 > Herman Ernst - Warwick 18 SEP 1789 > > Thanks, > Dan Fetters > > > ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== > This is your list use and enjoy for genealogy. > >

Office of Records and Archives Services Director - Richard M. Galbreath (717) 299-8319 Mailing Address : County of Lancaster Office of Records and Archives Services 50 N. Duke St P.O. Box 83480 Lancaster, Pa. 17608-3480 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Fetters" <dfetters@mindnet.org> To: <PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 6:12 PM Subject: [PALANCAS] Help, I need will copies from Lancaster County > Can someone provide the person and address that I can get copies of wills > for my ancestors in the county? > I emailed whom I thought was the probable officer but have never gotten a > reply. > > These are: > Henry Feather - Cocalico Twp 8 APR 1811 > Bertrand Feather - Cocalico 7 JUN 1816 > Gertraut Feather - Warwick Twp 19 JUL 1794 > Herman Ernst - Warwick 18 SEP 1789 > > Thanks, > Dan Fetters > > > ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== > This is your list use and enjoy for genealogy. > >

In most Pennsylvania counties: + "Freemen" were usually single men older than 21. After the mid-1700s, most counties started taxing men once they reached that age. However, it's not a hard-and-fast rule. + "Inmates" were married or widowned men who were secondary occupants of a property. [Pennsylvania counties generally taxed a property's occupant rather than the actual owner.] For example, a young married man might live on his father's farm (most typical). Also, an older widowed man might live on his son's farm. NOTE: You can often figure out when someone got married by looking at when he was switched from the "freeman" column to the "inmate" column. + Jr./Sr. - quite often, Jr. simply designates someone who has the same name as an older man. In German communities, you will freqently see Johann Schmidt Sr. and Johann Schmidt Jr. but don't assume they are father and son. They are quite likely uncle and nephew - or unrelated. + "Less" - Sorry. I've never seen that one. Brian >From: "Kathleen Gregory" <gregory@giantcomm.net> >Reply-To: PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com >To: PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PALANCAS] Freemen, Inmates, Sr, Jr, Less >Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 09:38:22 -0600 > >Can anyone clarify the following terms from the Tax Lists? > >Freemen > >Inmates > >I found three James Mitchells listed on the same page as Sr., Jr., and >Less. >Can someone shed some light on this? I know that age wise Sr means the >eldest, Jr means the youngest so does Less mean in the middle? > >Kathy > > > > >==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== >This is your list use and enjoy for genealogy. >

Pam: Thank you for your reply on Michael. I will try to obtain his land and probate records. Thank you. Dianna -----Original Message----- From: Pam Pearson <pampearson@patmedia.net> To: PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 19:13:32 -0400 Subject: Re: [PALANCAS] re: Michael Brenner marriage lookup Dianna, I descend from Michael's sister, Catharine, who m. Jacob Eichholtz. I have collected quite a bit of information on the Lanc Co Brenners, although it certainly isn't exhaustive. I have 2 sources which give his date of birth as 1 Aug 1782, with a baptism date of 8 Sep 1782 at the Maytown Lutheran Church. (1) Lanc Co Church Recs of the 18th Century, Vol 1; by F. Edward Wright, and (2) Christ Lutheran Church, Elizabethtown, 1770-1922. In May 1803 he was listed as a Communicant (single male) at St. John's Evangelical Lutheran Church in Maytown, along with his parents. I have not found any other published church records related to Michael or his children. He may have married into a Mennonite family, which would explain the lack of bapt. recs for his children and his burial at Kraybill. The rest of what I have on Michael matches what others have already provided (except for his date of birth). His land and probate records may be your best bet for finding out more about him. Good luck, Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: <mtmodie@aol.com> To: <PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 1:53 PM Subject: [PALANCAS] re: Michael Brenner marriage lookup > Does anyone know how far back marriage information was recorded in Pennsylvania? > > I am trying to find out the marriage date of Michel Brenner and his wife Susanna and what Susanna's maiden name was. > > Michael was born August 12, 1782 in Elizabethtown, Lancaster, PA and died in 1840 in Mt. Joy, PA. > > Any suggestions as to where I might look would be greatly appreciated. > > Thank you. > > Dianna > Seattle, WA > > > ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe first check and see if you are getting list or digest mode then e-mail PALANCAS-L-request@rootsweb.com or PALANCAS-D-request@rootsweb.com with unsubscribe in message. > > ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== http//www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html You are responsible for following the A.U.P. Acceptable Use Policy

Thank you to all for your assistance. Here is how the James Mitchells are listed in the Pennsylvania Archives Series III, Vol 20, pg 191 Cumberland County, Letterkenny Twp. 1779. Line 12: James Mitchell, Jun'r 157 acres 1 horse Line 18: James Mitchell, Sen'r 2 horses, 5 cattle Line 27: James Mitchell, Less, 50 Acres, 2 Horses, 4 Cattle And in 1782, same location, page 604 Line 27: Mitchel, James Sen'r, 2 Horses, 2 Cattle Line 32: Mitchel, James Jun'r, 157 Acres, 1 Horse, 2 Cattle Page 605 Line 1: Mitchel, James. Less, 189 Acres, 2 Horses, 3 Cattle Would this indicate that they were NOT neighbors since they are not recorded side by side or was this information recorded as they came in to pay their taxes? Kathy

Can anyone clarify the following terms from the Tax Lists? Freemen Inmates I found three James Mitchells listed on the same page as Sr., Jr., and Less. Can someone shed some light on this? I know that age wise Sr means the eldest, Jr means the youngest so does Less mean in the middle? Kathy

Jr does not necessarily mean a son of Sr. He could be another related or unrelated man in the area with the same name but younger than the Sr man, a means of differentiating two men of the same name. This information is for Pennsylvania tax lists, I don't know about other states: Freemen were men who were 21 years of age and were free of family obligations or trades. You can usually tell the age of a man by counting back from the first time he was taxed as a freeman. Inmates were persons who did not own any property but were probably mechanics or laborers and were married. Margaret > [Original Message] > From: Kathleen Gregory <gregory@giantcomm.net> > To: <PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 10/31/2005 7:38:30 AM > Subject: [PALANCAS] Freemen, Inmates, Sr, Jr, Less > > Can anyone clarify the following terms from the Tax Lists? > > Freemen > > Inmates > > I found three James Mitchells listed on the same page as Sr., Jr., and Less. > Can someone shed some light on this? I know that age wise Sr means the > eldest, Jr means the youngest so does Less mean in the middle? > > Kathy > > > > > ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== > This is your list use and enjoy for genealogy. >

A freeman was someone who owned land and had the right to vote. An inmate was usually a hired hand who didn't own land and probably didn't have the right to vote, but that will vary depending on the time frame. In the earliest days of Pennsylvania he probably would have the right to vote but in later days, after the Revolution, democracy became more wide spread. The only time I've seen someone referred to as "the less" is in the case of the Apostles, St. James the Greater and St. James the Less. St. James the Greater was related to Christ, it isn't clear about the relationship but some say he was the brother of Christ so maybe its an indication James Mitchel the less was not related to Sr. and Jr. Jim Kathleen Gregory <gregory@giantcomm.net> wrote: Can anyone clarify the following terms from the Tax Lists? Freemen Inmates I found three James Mitchells listed on the same page as Sr., Jr., and Less. Can someone shed some light on this? I know that age wise Sr means the eldest, Jr means the youngest so does Less mean in the middle? Kathy ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== This is your list use and enjoy for genealogy. --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

Dianna, I descend from Michael's sister, Catharine, who m. Jacob Eichholtz. I have collected quite a bit of information on the Lanc Co Brenners, although it certainly isn't exhaustive. I have 2 sources which give his date of birth as 1 Aug 1782, with a baptism date of 8 Sep 1782 at the Maytown Lutheran Church. (1) Lanc Co Church Recs of the 18th Century, Vol 1; by F. Edward Wright, and (2) Christ Lutheran Church, Elizabethtown, 1770-1922. In May 1803 he was listed as a Communicant (single male) at St. John's Evangelical Lutheran Church in Maytown, along with his parents. I have not found any other published church records related to Michael or his children. He may have married into a Mennonite family, which would explain the lack of bapt. recs for his children and his burial at Kraybill. The rest of what I have on Michael matches what others have already provided (except for his date of birth). His land and probate records may be your best bet for finding out more about him. Good luck, Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: <mtmodie@aol.com> To: <PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 1:53 PM Subject: [PALANCAS] re: Michael Brenner marriage lookup > Does anyone know how far back marriage information was recorded in Pennsylvania? > > I am trying to find out the marriage date of Michel Brenner and his wife Susanna and what Susanna's maiden name was. > > Michael was born August 12, 1782 in Elizabethtown, Lancaster, PA and died in 1840 in Mt. Joy, PA. > > Any suggestions as to where I might look would be greatly appreciated. > > Thank you. > > Dianna > Seattle, WA > > > ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe first check and see if you are getting list or digest mode then e-mail PALANCAS-L-request@rootsweb.com or PALANCAS-D-request@rootsweb.com with unsubscribe in message. > >

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Diana, Elizabethtown and Mt. Joy are only six miles apart on PA Rt. 230. Since your Michael Brenner was born and died in towns so close together, you might presume his marriage took place in this immediate vicinity between 1802 to 1807 or a little later. The Brenner surname is German. In that area of Pennsylvania, you will most likely find records for the Brenners a Lutheran or a German Reformed congregation. If not in these two churches, the next most likely church in that area would be a Mennonite congregation. In addition to church records, you should also search for wedding announcements in the social columns of newspaper(s) that served Donegal Twp. and Mt. Joy Twp. during the first decade of the 1800's. Nelson Oro Valley AZ ///////////////////////////////////////////// On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 13:53:29 -0400 mtmodie@aol.com writes: > Does anyone know how far back marriage information was recorded in > Pennsylvania? > > I am trying to find out the marriage date of Michel Brenner and his > wife Susanna and what Susanna's maiden name was. > > Michael was born August 12, 1782 in Elizabethtown, Lancaster, PA and > died in 1840 in Mt. Joy, PA. > > Any suggestions as to where I might look would be greatly > appreciated. > > Thank you. > > Dianna > Seattle, WA >

Dianna to answer your question the only record of early marriages would be in the church to which they belong..you would need to find that first and hopefully it would be recorded there. to answer your second question I believe that you might want to check with the Lancaster County Archives for record of a death that occurred in the county in the time period you are checking. not sure but they might start around the 1880 period you are asking about. again the best would probably be the church record of the burial. the Lancaster County Archives are located at Court House 50 North Duke Street Lancaster Pa 17602 717 299 8319 hope this helps ' Joe Wolfe On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 13:53:29 -0400 mtmodie@aol.com writes: > Does anyone know how far back marriage information was recorded in > Pennsylvania? > > I am trying to find out the marriage date of Michel Brenner and his > wife Susanna and what Susanna's maiden name was. > > Michael was born August 12, 1782 in Elizabethtown, Lancaster, PA and > died in 1840 in Mt. Joy, PA. > > Any suggestions as to where I might look would be greatly > appreciated. > > Thank you. > > Dianna > Seattle, WA > > > ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe first check and see if you are getting list or digest > mode then e-mail PALANCAS-L-request@rootsweb.com or > PALANCAS-D-request@rootsweb.com with unsubscribe in message. > >

How far back are obituaries recorded for Lancaster, PA? I am looking for an obituary for an Elizabeth Brenner Musser that died May 25, 1880 and wondered where I might look. Thank you. Dianna Seattle, WA

Does anyone know how far back marriage information was recorded in Pennsylvania? I am trying to find out the marriage date of Michel Brenner and his wife Susanna and what Susanna's maiden name was. Michael was born August 12, 1782 in Elizabethtown, Lancaster, PA and died in 1840 in Mt. Joy, PA. Any suggestions as to where I might look would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Dianna Seattle, WA

Dianna, I have some info on Michael Brenner : Source: In the surname card file viewed at the Lancaster Mennonite Historical Society 6/3/1999; source given as Mennonite Research Journal 1962, pg 36: Michael Brenner born 30 Jul 1782; died 19 Nov 1840; age at death 58-3-14; married [no date given] Susan ______ born 4 Dec 1794; died 7 Aug 1874; buried Krayhill Mennonite Cemetery. Lancaster Co Wills, vol S, book 1, pg 354: Michael Brenner, Mt Joy Twp near Florin; wife Susanna and son John; 140 acre farm in Mt Joy and Donegal child: Elizabeth married to Benj Musser child: John, the rest of my goods and chattels probated 21 Nov 1840. ======================== end of my Michael info ===== I don't have a marriage date for them but I have Susanna's maiden name as Hoffman, and unfortunately, I didn't list a source for the maiden name. Michael isn't in my Brenner line so I have very limited info for him. Could I please ask where you got the birth date for Michael of 12 Aug 1782 Elizabethtown as the Mennonite Research Journal listed his birth as 30 Jul 1782, no location. Also who were his parents? Margaret James Sylmar, CA > [Original Message] > From: <mtmodie@aol.com> > To: <PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 10/28/2005 10:53:54 AM > Subject: [PALANCAS] re: Michael Brenner marriage lookup > > Does anyone know how far back marriage information was recorded in Pennsylvania? > > I am trying to find out the marriage date of Michel Brenner and his wife Susanna and what Susanna's maiden name was. > > Michael was born August 12, 1782 in Elizabethtown, Lancaster, PA and died in 1840 in Mt. Joy, PA. > > Any suggestions as to where I might look would be greatly appreciated. > > Thank you. > > Dianna > Seattle, WA

Thanks for interpreting "instant" I had several obits that had used it. Elaine

Files recently added to the Lancaster County Archives: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/bios/alleman-horace.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/anderson-j-1911.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/brackbill-c-l-1924.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/chalfant-daniel-1917.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/clark-andrew-1917.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/cohen-emanuel-1917.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/deem-william-1917.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/eisenberger-henrietta-1917.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/ernst-fwill-1924.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/findley-john-1913.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/frank-jacob-1917.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/fry-samuel-1924.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/frylye-alice-1924.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/gephart-mary-1917.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/grove-isaac-1924.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/herr-aldus-1924.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/hess-elizabeth-1924.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/hess-robt-1903.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/hollinger-lydia-1917.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/hubler-ezra-1924.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/jarvis-sarah-1917.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/jaynes-clara-1924.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/keller-minnie-1924.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/long-annie-1924.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/may-mary-1917.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/mccarty-daniel-1917.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/mcculley-robt-1903.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/mcelwain-reb-1907.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/mcelwain-john-1905.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/mcilvain-john-1900.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/miller-earl-1924.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/montgomery-wash-1917.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/morgan-harriet-1917.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/mowery-martha-1924.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/mundorf-ben-1904.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/musser-mich-1924.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/myers-caroline-1903.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/rhodes-mary-1924.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/rice-kath-1917.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/rutt-kate-1917.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/schoenberger-naomi-1924.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/shaub-christian-1924.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/stoe-jacob-1903.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/sweigart-chas-1917.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/watson-bfrank-1917.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/woodland-cath-1917.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/obits/young-robt-sr-1903.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/vitals/marriages/sturgis-free.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/vitals/marriages/obrian-nutt.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/vitals/marriages/reinhold-gerhart.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/vitals/marriages/stark-rittenhouse.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/vitals/marriages/mooney-misal.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/vitals/marriages/swinehart-thompson.txt Abby Bowman File Manager, USGenWeb Archives Lancaster, Dauphin, Lebanon and Franklin Counties, PA http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/lancaster/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/dauphin/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/lebanon/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/franklin/

If you are referring to a typical newspaper death notice or marriage, inst. means this month. Tony