Going through some old correspondence. For the archives or researchers. "1316 E. Lincoln Hwy Coatesville, Pa. June 4, 1964 Dear Mrs. Hurlbutt - Thank you so much for your letter regarding the FOX [FUCHS] family. I am not very advanced on the FOX line. My mother was Loretta E. FOX married Ambrose BOYD her parents Emma J. EVANS & Kinzie FOX he was born Alliance, Ohio Jan 4, 1853 died Dec. 19, 1893 killed by a train at Christiana, Pa. his father was Amox FOX married Martha ECHOFF born 1832 his mother (I am not sure) was a FAIRINGTON. I do not know about John & Christina FOX of Lancaster, Pa. That is only about 26 miles west of here. John and Amos could have been related. Any information you might have would be appreciated. Very truly yours, Lillian Boyd Haines" Alice Gless

There in a Stauffer Graveyard Warwick , now Elizabeth, Township, Lancaster County, PA. I have a notation that their son Christian Stauffer is buried there. Frank Hess Enola, PA -------------- Original message -------------- From: "mstauf" <mstauf@comcast.net> > Henry Jacob & Magdalena HESS STOUFFER lived in Donegal Twp and had also > lived in Warwick Twp of Lancaster County. I believe they paid some taxes in > Mount Joy Twp. I see that Mount Joy is near Lebanon County so hope I am > not searching for graves in an incorrect county. > > There was a picture of their tombstones on the Internet at one time but I > have not found that website and have not found their graves. Jacob died 1775 > and Magdalena a few years later. > > Henry Jacob Stouffer was the father of the Abraham Stouffer that married > Barbara Hershey and Elizabeth Boyer. > > Can anyone help us locate the graves? > Appreciatively > BK Stauffer > > > ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== > This is your list use and enjoy for genealogy. >

Henry Jacob & Magdalena HESS STOUFFER lived in Donegal Twp and had also lived in Warwick Twp of Lancaster County. I believe they paid some taxes in Mount Joy Twp. I see that Mount Joy is near Lebanon County so hope I am not searching for graves in an incorrect county. There was a picture of their tombstones on the Internet at one time but I have not found that website and have not found their graves. Jacob died 1775 and Magdalena a few years later. Henry Jacob Stouffer was the father of the Abraham Stouffer that married Barbara Hershey and Elizabeth Boyer. Can anyone help us locate the graves? Appreciatively BK Stauffer

Kathleen, There IS a State Map printed by the state (PA) SOME year,s ago SHOWING the "beginning's of all the Counties, in color. I wish I could tell you now, how to obtain one. D. Ernest Weinhold DEWeinhold@juno.com

Hi all ~ I'm sending this to a couple different lists, sorry if you get it more than once. I received an email regarding a website I've never seen or heard about.  (I could be the only one who hasn't heard of it, that's been known to happen!) In part, the email reads, "RedLightGreen has started an excellent site called ArchiveGrid, to aggregate information about collections in archives, museums, etc. It's free through May 31, possibly longer.  You can try it at http://archivegrid.org.   Almost a million collection descriptions are available through this site's search engine."  I have only tried it a couple of times so far, to see what I would get.  For example, I entered a search for "Pennsylvania" and received 82,133 hits!  So I entered Lancaster and got 1015 hits.  I added Quaker to that search and it narrowed it to 53 hits.  It is information on collections etc and where to find them - it is not the actual info.  You might find something interesting here.  I clicked on one of the hits, "Account Books of Little Britain general store 1796-1807".  It tells where to find it as well as contact information, and "the records consist of three account books documenting what is apparently a general store located near Brown's mills, in which Brown was partially a partner. The first volume is a Daybook or Journal ... "It goes into more detail but I didn't type it all here.  I didn't do a search for Chester County yet, but I plan on it, as well as browsing more on Lancaster County.  Looks like a decent site.  Hope it can help someone! Wanda in Lancaster County "A Volunteer for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at http://www.raogk.org/"

Jim, Thank you. I tis interesting that your reserach (in this case) is very close to the ssurname,s I have been working on, but do not "dove-tail". The Lorah family originally settled in the Oley Valley area of Berks Co. PA, for example. A few of what I have in my (hand written) file,s are : Aaalthouse, Brossman, Coldren, Matz, Kieffer, Klopp, Klapp, Grill, Krill, Lousch, Sollenberger, Zerbe, Hoster, Harding-Hortung, Frey-Fry, are some of them. Maybe if I recall some of the other,s, we might be researching some of the same. Ernest Weinhold

HE HAS RISEN INDEED! Ernest

Alice...and all you Fox researcher,s; Have you connected THOSE from the Farmersville area of Lancaster* Co., PA. Thought they may have arrived in America a bit later? One of my School Teacher,s, Mr. John MINK was a descendant of a small group who settled in said area, coming from Germany. *West Earl Township The other surname,s who came at the same time were Seidel and I do believe Mink was one also: do any of the above "ring a bell"? Ernest

Check the printed Pa. Archives, 3rd Series, it has a tax list for all of Pa.for the years 1771-1773-1779 and 1782. This should allow you to search for Robinets all over Pa. in that time frame. Most Pa. libraries have this series but if you live outside the state check a local university library, they may have parts of this series as part of their history collection. Your probably going to have to check the History of Cumberland County to find Trent's Gap, you can try the U.S. Genweb page for Cumberland County to see if they have parts of that history on-line. I don't have the url for the Cumberland County genweb page but if you go to the Conestoga Area Historical Society web page http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacahs/index.htm go to our links page and there is a link to the Pa. Genweb page. The Pa. Genweb page will allow you to go to any Genweb page in Pa. Cumberland County was formed from Lancaser County in 1750 so its possible that your Robinets never lived in the current Lancaster County but lived there before Cumberland County was formed. York County was formed from Lancaster County in 1749. There are tax lists for Lancaster County for 1750, 1770 and 1780, there are no tax lists from 1729, when Lancaster was formed, until 1750. Jim gjsmith58@comcast.net wrote: Searching for clues, place, family on the George Robinet family who I believe were first located in Lancaster County, then York County, cira the 1700's. Also, would anyone be able to tell me the location of "Trent's Gap" into Cumberland County? Data says "Trent's Gap" to "York Road" date: 1754. Viewers: James Robinet, Thomas Kyton, {Kenton}, John Beals, John Read, Charles Coulson, William Smith. July 1773 - "Petition asks for road from the county line between where the Trent's Gap" to "York road" crosses the line and "the peak" ------- then to intersect the "Deardurff road". Signers: 1773 John Smith, Christian Newcomer, William Cox, John Ziegler, Alexander Sanderson, William Smith What would the letters listed after the Inhabitants of York County, 1762, mean - as in: gy, me, hu, hn, cu, sn, rg, bk and so on? Thank You. Judy Smith/Colorado -- "Imagine" - John Lennon ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== This is your list use and enjoy for genealogy. --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates.

The key to searching a common name is to narrow the focus, identify the county and township where he lived and see what information you can gather. You may need to identify the other Millers in that township to see if this is one extended family or several families. You need to see if your ancestor or any of his kids served in the Civil War. Try to identify what church, political organizations and social groups your ancestor was involved in. You may need to look at local newspapers to answer some of these questions. Generally its a good idea to narrow your focus when researching any ancestor but people searching uncommon names usually don't have to do that. Jim Darlene Corrigan <darlenecorrigan@mac.com> wrote: Hello list. Can anyone give me suggestions as to how to research a common name? My grandfather was Benjamin Franklin MILLER. His uncle (his father's brother) was Benjamin Franklin MILLER, and his grandfather was Benjamin Franklin MILLER. I found others with the same name that aren't connected. (at least not a connection that I can make) The amount of Benjamin Franklin MILLERs in Lancaster County, York County, Perry and Juniata Counties is overwhelming. I haven't found the family I need in all the B.F. MILLERs I've waded through. The Benjamin Franklin MILLER I am interested in was born circa 1810, was married to Amelia Baker by 1834 (their first child was born then) and died sometime after the 1880 census - I think in Perry County. I would like to find information about him - his birthplace, his siblings, his parents, etc. I know Amelia Baker MILLER died sometime before 1850 because her husband had gotten remarried to Sarah Bruner by the 1850 census. I know this second wife, Sarah Bruner MILLER died a widow in 1893 - in Perry County. That's what made me think that he probably died in Perry County, too. Any suggestions on how to find him? Darlene ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== http//www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html You are responsible for following the A.U.P. Acceptable Use Policy --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big.

Searching for clues, place, family on the George Robinet family who I believe were first located in Lancaster County, then York County, cira the 1700's. Also, would anyone be able to tell me the location of "Trent's Gap" into Cumberland County? Data says "Trent's Gap" to "York Road" date: 1754. Viewers: James Robinet, Thomas Kyton, {Kenton}, John Beals, John Read, Charles Coulson, William Smith. July 1773 - "Petition asks for road from the county line between where the Trent's Gap" to "York road" crosses the line and "the peak" ------- then to intersect the "Deardurff road". Signers: 1773 John Smith, Christian Newcomer, William Cox, John Ziegler, Alexander Sanderson, William Smith What would the letters listed after the Inhabitants of York County, 1762, mean - as in: gy, me, hu, hn, cu, sn, rg, bk and so on? Thank You. Judy Smith/Colorado -- "Imagine" - John Lennon

Hello list. Can anyone give me suggestions as to how to research a common name? My grandfather was Benjamin Franklin MILLER. His uncle (his father's brother) was Benjamin Franklin MILLER, and his grandfather was Benjamin Franklin MILLER. I found others with the same name that aren't connected. (at least not a connection that I can make) The amount of Benjamin Franklin MILLERs in Lancaster County, York County, Perry and Juniata Counties is overwhelming. I haven't found the family I need in all the B.F. MILLERs I've waded through. The Benjamin Franklin MILLER I am interested in was born circa 1810, was married to Amelia Baker by 1834 (their first child was born then) and died sometime after the 1880 census - I think in Perry County. I would like to find information about him - his birthplace, his siblings, his parents, etc. I know Amelia Baker MILLER died sometime before 1850 because her husband had gotten remarried to Sarah Bruner by the 1850 census. I know this second wife, Sarah Bruner MILLER died a widow in 1893 - in Perry County. That's what made me think that he probably died in Perry County, too. Any suggestions on how to find him? Darlene

In a message dated 4/3/2006 7:27:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, james_l_stokes@yahoo.com writes: <<Hi Joan, If you think Catharine Dietrich was born in Earl Township then the question becomes, how would she meet and marry someone that lived 40 or 50 miles away ?>> Jim- I don't know for sure that she is the right Catherine--she is merely the only one I found anywhere born in Lancaster County that matched the dates on census records. Samuel SMITH's occupation was stonemason and I suppose it would be possible that his trade took him to locations miles from his home in York. It is also possible that Catherine was born in Lancaster County and raised in York County. Since I've not been able to locate her on census records prior to 1860, I can't really say for sure. << Does Samuel Smith show up on the tax lists for Earl Twp ?>> No--the SMITHs show up on tax lists in Dover Twp. in York County. << Did Catherine's father or one of her brothers move to York County ? Do you know when the Jacob Dietrich of Earl Twp. died ? Might he have mentioned his daughter by her married name in his will ? Where was Jacob living when he died ? These are the questions you can check into in order to build a case that it was his daughter that married Samuel Smith. Jim>> Yes--I know--it has only been recently that the SMITHs were located on census records in York County (after 15 years of searching for them). This means it has only been a short time that I had an approximate birth year for Catherine. On two censuses censustaker errors (as opposed to transcription errors) resulted in the family names being incorrectly listed in indexes. So my search for this part of the family has only just begun. Joan

Jack, thank you for making this wonderful offer. I, too would like all three counties if it is convenient. Regards, Christie A. Russell Christie@cartar.com

In a message dated 4/3/2006 5:46:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, james_l_stokes@yahoo.com writes: Hi Joan, Have you been able to confirm the information provided on the death certificate ? Have you found a marriage in church records ? Death certificates are usually pretty reliable but the information for it was probably provided by the son's widow and she could have been wrong. Whenever I run into a dead end where the source information isn't from a primary document, I try to confirm the information in some way, like checking for a marriage to confirm the last name. I saw a Catharine Dietz, age 19 living in the South Ward of York Borough, she was the daughter of Jacob. It would be pretty easy for someone to confuse Dietz and Dietrich, especially if it wasn't your relative and it may have been something you heard years before. Jim ---- The informant on the death certificate is James' son--so I'm guessing he'd know where his grandmother was born. You are correct that the identity and relationship of the imformant is very important. Her maiden name was definitely DIETERICH as it is also included in the baptismal record for her son, James, and she, herself, would have given that info. On the 1860 census she is age 30 and in 1870 she is age 42. I have not found a marriage record for Samuel SMITH and Catherine DIETERICH. On the 1850 census Samuel is 27 and single and by 1860 he is married to Catherine and their oldest child is age 8. So they must have married after the middle of 1860 and before 1862. I don't know if they married in Lancaster County or York. Do you have any information about a Catherina DIETRICK born 4 April 1829 in Earl Twp. Lancaster County? She is the daughter Jacob DIETRICK and wife Christina HOSTER (dau. of Wilhelm and Catherine HOSTER). This couple were married on 1 Aug. 1819 in Earl Twp. I sort of suspect this is my Catherine based on age and location of birth--but I'd like to find additional evidence that would definitely prove it or refute it. Joan

The Zion church is now the Zion United Church of Christ. It is located on Winter Hill Road, just off Old Road. It has a New Providence address but it is technically in Strasburg Township. Jeanne Ruczhak-Eckman www.eckmannews.com jre@fixit1.com -----Original Message----- From: James Stokes [mailto:james_l_stokes@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 6:07 PM To: PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PALANCAS] Martic Twp., Lancaster Co., PA Hi Sue, There were two churches in Providence Twp. that, at that time was part of Martic Twp., they were Old Dutch (Lutheran), began 1730, and Zion (Dutch Reformed), began 1740. Old Dutch later moved into Strasburg and became St. Michael's. I'm not sure what happened to Zion. The Lancaster County Historical Society had limited records from these churches. There was also Muddy Creek Presbyterian Church which operated from 1743 to 1909. I don't think there are any church records for this church. The Southern Lancaster County Historical Society may have more information on these churches on their web page, http://www.rootsweb.com/~paslchs/ Jim Does anyone on the list know what churches were in existence in Martic Twp., Lancaster Co., PA in the 1730's to the 1780's? Are there any church records or cemetery records available for this time frame? Sue12632@aol.com ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== This is your list use and enjoy for genealogy. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== List Owner can be reached for help with the list at PALANCAS-Admin@rootsweb.com

In the book Churches and Cemeteries of Lancaster County, PA it says: Muddy Run Presbyterian Church 1742-1909 church removed in 1970's Muddy Run (Presbyterian) Cemetery East of Susquehannock Drive, north of PA Rte.372 Record Location: see Register of Marriages and Baptisms of Rev. John Cuthbertson, Covenantor, 1751-1791, ed. By S. Helen Fields, 1934, reprinted 1983 LCHS; LMHS No other church records known to exist Gravestone Inscriptions: LCHS (1971); LMHS

Most Martic Township churches seemed to have been formed in the 1800s. Muddy Run Presbyterian Cemetery ... 1742-1909 The graveyard inscriptions are at Lancaster County Historical Society and at the Lancaster Mennonite Historical Society ... The Congregation was dissolved in 1909 by the Philadelphia Presbytery. The church building was removed in the 1970s. There were some family plots and a small few churches that folded early on. Some churches remain on in the local history. For example, the African meetinghouse was shown on a 1864 map but there is no trace of a building or a graveyard in 1983. There is also the Mount Nebo Reformed Mennonite Congregation that met in a lodge hall and never seem to have build a church themselves. No records either. Now through time our municipalities have changed a bit. What family / names are you researching? Jeanne Ruczhak-Eckman www.eckmannews.com jre@fixit1.com -----Original Message----- From: Sue12632@aol.com [mailto:Sue12632@aol.com] Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 4:54 PM To: PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PALANCAS] Martic Twp., Lancaster Co., PA Does anyone on the list know what churches were in existence in Martic Twp., Lancaster Co., PA in the 1730's to the 1780's? Are there any church records or cemetery records available for this time frame? Sue12632@aol.com ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== This is your list use and enjoy for genealogy.

I answered this once but it came back. I'll try again. This is how to access ancestor "look-up" in DAR records; Just ask for DAR on your search engine The first item on there will say DAR/Daughters of the American Revolution Several things are listed below that entry - one is Patriot look-up click on that and the first paragraph is "look up" at the bottom is "the check look up for form" but actually the form is the first item under that paragraph Hope this helps Nancy in Chicago

Does anyone on the list know what churches were in existence in Martic Twp., Lancaster Co., PA in the 1730's to the 1780's? Are there any church records or cemetery records available for this time frame? Sue12632@aol.com