Hi Noreen, I basically gave up on trying to find my Fox line from Lancaster<prob Germany, so thought I would start "dumping" some old correspondence and compilations my mother had before she died in 1968, very much of which does not relate to my lines, to various lists in the hope that it can help someone else. It gets archived, for how many years I don't know, but some people go in and search through those archives and may find something. It has helped me more than once on other ancestors from pieces of information someone has taken the trouble to contribute. All I know about my ancestry down that line is that my second great grandmother was a Catharine Elizabeth FOX (may have been Fuchs when first got off the boat) born January 11, 1814 in Lancaster County, m June 19 1834 in Carrolton, Carroll County, Ohio Joseph FETTERS born Riegel, Baden, Germany (won't give more dates on him). Fetters may have settled PA first; I haven't looked through that genealogy for a long time. The couple and their family moved from Ohio to Knox County, Illinois; Catharine died after1880 in Yates City, Knox County, IL. Children: John, b 1835; Casper Balitice, b 1837; Augustus, b 1838; Sarah Ann, b 1840; Nancy Jane, b 1843; Joseph Henry, b 1856; Oliver Perry, b 1847; Harriett Emma "Hattie" (my gr grandmother), b 1848; George Farmington, b 1849; Mary Ellen, b 1852; Louis Napolean, b 1856. My mother had very sparse info on her, had a piece of a quilt with Stark County, Ohio embroidered on it, had her obituary at one time, and they were among the first settlers in that part of Illinois, their cabin being very isolated. The piece of quilt and obituary I don't have, some other info did get passed down to me. I have a complete Fetters genealogy done by a Fetters cousin, but we all hit a brick wall on Catharine, and it is a difficult name to research, and PA is really hard for me here in Iowa; the records gone, scattered, name spelling permutations, too much moving around, etc. So I gave up on it and don't want anyone going way out of their way to try to find more for me at this point unless I just happen to make a fortunate connection. Alice Gless

Charles, You are working over time. Ernest

Keith, Just a thought: An Old Eirsman Farm and a Church named after said family lie in the area of Rt. 772 in Rapho Twp. Lanc. Co, between Manheim and Mt Joy (on the "way" to Marietta. Also, Large Eirman tomb stone,s in the Manheim Fairview Cemetery, along W. Sunhill Rd., .just south of Manheim (on the hill). Ernest

Just wanted to let you know I posted books on Ebay for sale. Some are church history books and some are deeds and oaths and another is cemetaries. My user name is ratmamma if you want to check out the listings. These books helped me alot. I hope they can help others too. Beth Larkin ( Lehr )

Dear Alice, I am a Fuchs descendant. An(n) Barbara Fuchs married Johannes Northeimer in Philadelphia in 1757. I will have to check my records for the exact date. They are my greatX5 grandparents. Within a few years they moved to Lancaster County. I know Ann Barbara survived her husband who died in 1818, but have no death date for her. If you think we may connect, I would be happy to share/compare. I know nothing else regarding the Fuchs line as I've been following other lines, but your post caught my eye. Sincerely, Noreen Alexander Manzella -----Original Message----- From: Alice Gless <agless@earthlink.net> To: PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 23:34:13 -0500 Subject: [PALANCAS] FOX FUCHS EVANS FAIRINGTON HAINES ECHOFF Going through some old correspondence. For the archives or researchers. "1316 E. Lincoln Hwy Coatesville, Pa. June 4, 1964 Dear Mrs. Hurlbutt - Thank you so much for your letter regarding the FOX [FUCHS] family. I am not very advanced on the FOX line. My mother was Loretta E. FOX married Ambrose BOYD her parents Emma J. EVANS & Kinzie FOX he was born Alliance, Ohio Jan 4, 1853 died Dec. 19, 1893 killed by a train at Christiana, Pa. his father was Amox FOX married Martha ECHOFF born 1832 his mother (I am not sure) was a FAIRINGTON. I do not know about John & Christina FOX of Lancaster, Pa. That is only about 26 miles west of here. John and Amos could have been related. Any information you might have would be appreciated. Very truly yours, Lillian Boyd Haines" Alice Gless ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== List Owner can be reached for help with the list at PALANCAS-Admin@rootsweb.com

In a message dated 4/12/2006 5:29:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, JYoung6180@aol.com writes: According to a GEDCOM on WorldConnect--James was born in Cumberland County: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=clay46&id=I1431 You might want to contact the GEDCOM submitter and learn what they based this upon. Joan --- And of course Cumberland County didn't exist in 1738--so it would have to be Lancaster County but could be in an area that is currently Cumberland County. In the records of Rev. John Cuthbertson: 17 Aug. 1756 "Rode 21 miles to Jo Sloans; married James Mitchel and Mary Sloan." And... 14 Dec. 1769: "Rode 16 miles -- married James Mitchel and Han. Peterson. (From home.)" Note that neither of these names is the wife listed in the above GEDCOM for the wife of the James MITCHELL born 28 Sept. 1738. Joan

Thank you Richard that was very informative! Kathy -----Original Message----- From: Richard Emlin Reed [mailto:remlinr@tampabay.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 10:38 AM To: PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PALANCAS] defunct county I googled New Amithi with no success. I also checked "The Pennsylvania Line" research guide, again with no success. There is, of course, no Bend County in Pennylvania. The only logical possibility is Berks County. Of course, there was no Berks County in 1738; but the record may have been inscribed in the bible after 1752 when Berks was erected. Amithi brings to mind Amity, a township in southeastern Berks County ("th", in German, is pronounced "t"; the "i" like "y"). Old Gothic German script was hard to read; and letters were often mistaken for others; so Berks could have, possibly, been mistaken for Bend. Amity is one of the oldest townships in Pennsylvania, having, originally, been part of Philadelphia County. However, I digress; http://www.co.berks.pa.us/amity/cwp/view.asp?a=1712&Q=467281&amityPNavCtr=%7 C , a history of Amity Township, makes no mention of a "New Amithi" or "New Amity". Richard Emlin Reed Wesley Chapel FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen Gregory" <gregory@giantcomm.net> To: <PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 10:21 AM Subject: [PALANCAS] defunct county > Some time ago I asked about the location of New Amithi, PA. I received a > typed transcription done in 1926 of the Bible record of James Mitchell b. > 28 > Sept 1738. In this record it states that his place of birth is New > Amithi, > Bend County, PA. I couldn't find anything online about a Bend County in > PA. > Does anyone on this list know about this county or where I should look to > find information? > > Thank you, > > Kathy > > > > > ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== > This is your list use and enjoy for genealogy. ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== No political statements to this list. No religious statements.

Kathleen Gregory <gregory@giantcomm.net> wrote: Some time ago I asked about the location of New Amithi, PA. I received a typed transcription done in 1926 of the Bible record of James Mitchell b. 28 Sept 1738. In this record it states that his place of birth is New Amithi, Bend County, PA. I couldn't find anything online about a Bend County in PA. Does anyone on this list know about this county or where I should look to find information? --- According to a GEDCOM on WorldConnect--James was born in Cumberland County: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=clay46&id=I1431 You might want to contact the GEDCOM submitter and learn what they based this upon. Joan

Thank you Jim. I will definitely check this out. The typed copy of the Bible record is certified as true and correct and states that the Bible is in the possession of his sister. It doesn't state which sister as he, Wm Mitchell, had two sisters. I wonder if perhaps by 1926 one had already passed away. I have been in touch with a direct line descendant of Wm Mitchell who is contacting her cousins to see if anyone knows the whereabouts of the Bible. Kathy -----Original Message----- From: James Stokes [mailto:james_l_stokes@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 4:13 PM To: PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PALANCAS] defunct county Since this document was typed in 1926 we can't assume that its accurate, the people who typed it may have included material that they thought was true but now appears to be not true. It is not a primary document and who can be certain that the original bible record was recorded in 1738, it also may not be a primary document. There is a tax list for Philadelphia County in 1733 on the Philadelphia Genweb page, if I remember correctly it included Amity Twp, later Berks County (I typed it in several years ago), I'd check this to see if the name Mitchell appears. If not check the other Philadelphia Townships for the name Mitchell. There are also several books with Berk's County baptisms, you could see if someone on the Berks County list might check this for you. Good luck. Jim Conestoga Area Historical Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacahs/index.htm Kathleen Gregory <gregory@giantcomm.net> wrote: Some time ago I asked about the location of New Amithi, PA. I received a typed transcription done in 1926 of the Bible record of James Mitchell b. 28 Sept 1738. In this record it states that his place of birth is New Amithi, Bend County, PA. I couldn't find anything online about a Bend County in PA. Does anyone on this list know about this county or where I should look to find information? Thank you, Kathy ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== This is your list use and enjoy for genealogy. --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1&cent;/min. ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe first check and see if you are getting list or digest mode then e-mail PALANCAS-L-request@rootsweb.com or PALANCAS-D-request@rootsweb.com with unsubscribe in message.

Since this document was typed in 1926 we can't assume that its accurate, the people who typed it may have included material that they thought was true but now appears to be not true. It is not a primary document and who can be certain that the original bible record was recorded in 1738, it also may not be a primary document. There is a tax list for Philadelphia County in 1733 on the Philadelphia Genweb page, if I remember correctly it included Amity Twp, later Berks County (I typed it in several years ago), I'd check this to see if the name Mitchell appears. If not check the other Philadelphia Townships for the name Mitchell. There are also several books with Berk's County baptisms, you could see if someone on the Berks County list might check this for you. Good luck. Jim Conestoga Area Historical Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacahs/index.htm Kathleen Gregory <gregory@giantcomm.net> wrote: Some time ago I asked about the location of New Amithi, PA. I received a typed transcription done in 1926 of the Bible record of James Mitchell b. 28 Sept 1738. In this record it states that his place of birth is New Amithi, Bend County, PA. I couldn't find anything online about a Bend County in PA. Does anyone on this list know about this county or where I should look to find information? Thank you, Kathy ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== This is your list use and enjoy for genealogy. --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1&cent;/min.

In a message dated 4/12/2006 11:48:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, zuli@sprintmail.com writes: Of these counties, only Buck Co. (formed 1682) existed in September 1738. Yes--and according to the RootsWeb Town County finder there is an Amity in Bucks County as well as the Amity Township in Berks. Joan

I googled New Amithi with no success. I also checked "The Pennsylvania Line" research guide, again with no success. There is, of course, no Bend County in Pennylvania. The only logical possibility is Berks County. Of course, there was no Berks County in 1738; but the record may have been inscribed in the bible after 1752 when Berks was erected. Amithi brings to mind Amity, a township in southeastern Berks County ("th", in German, is pronounced "t"; the "i" like "y"). Old Gothic German script was hard to read; and letters were often mistaken for others; so Berks could have, possibly, been mistaken for Bend. Amity is one of the oldest townships in Pennsylvania, having, originally, been part of Philadelphia County. However, I digress; http://www.co.berks.pa.us/amity/cwp/view.asp?a=1712&Q=467281&amityPNavCtr=%7C , a history of Amity Township, makes no mention of a "New Amithi" or "New Amity". Richard Emlin Reed Wesley Chapel FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen Gregory" <gregory@giantcomm.net> To: <PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 10:21 AM Subject: [PALANCAS] defunct county > Some time ago I asked about the location of New Amithi, PA. I received a > typed transcription done in 1926 of the Bible record of James Mitchell b. > 28 > Sept 1738. In this record it states that his place of birth is New > Amithi, > Bend County, PA. I couldn't find anything online about a Bend County in > PA. > Does anyone on this list know about this county or where I should look to > find information? > > Thank you, > > Kathy > > > > > ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== > This is your list use and enjoy for genealogy.

Some time ago I asked about the location of New Amithi, PA. I received a typed transcription done in 1926 of the Bible record of James Mitchell b. 28 Sept 1738. In this record it states that his place of birth is New Amithi, Bend County, PA. I couldn't find anything online about a Bend County in PA. Does anyone on this list know about this county or where I should look to find information? Thank you, Kathy

According to PENNSYLVANIA LINE (1990): There is no Bend Co. in Pa. The counties in Pa. beginning with the letter 'B' are Beaver, Bedford, Berks, Blair, Bradford, Bucks, and Butler. Of these counties, only Buck Co. (formed 1682) existed in September 1738. To make matters worse(:[) or better(¦]), depending your approach to research, the same resource book shows no city, town, or township named New Amithi in Pa. If you do a Google search for "New Amithi," you will be taken to archived messages for Rootsweb MailList postings that discuss this town's name in September 2005. Go to the following: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PALANCAS/2005-09 http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPERRY/2005-09 and search for the word "Amithi." Happy hunting! Nelson R. Sulouff ///////////////////////////////////// ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathleen Gregory To: PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 7:21 AM Subject: [PALANCAS] defunct county Some time ago I asked about the location of New Amithi, PA. I received a typed transcription done in 1926 of the Bible record of James Mitchell b. 28 Sept 1738. In this record it states that his place of birth is New Amithi, Bend County, PA. I couldn't find anything online about a Bend County in PA. Does anyone on this list know about this county or where I should look to find information? Thank you, Kathy

I have a direct line ancestor, James Alexander born in 1785 in Strasberg, Lancaster County, Pa. He married a woman named Margaret possibly in or around 1815. A son, Thompson was born in 1816 in Virginia. Not sure if the family resided in Virginia or not. I haven't found anything to show that was the case. At some point James and Margaret went to Ohio and settled in McConnellsville, Morgan County, Ohio. They had three more children born to them, Elizabeth, Madge and James Harvey (who was my direct line ancestor). I would like to correspond with anyone who might have any connections to Alexander's from the Strasberg, Pa. area. Even if the connection isn't with the people I have mentioned it might be helpful to have information on other Alexander's that might later show a connection. Thank you. Jadean Hopper _jadean46@aol.com_ (mailto:jadean46@aol.com)

Patty, That is very interesting that you have Witwer-Holl. Cem, Earl Twp as the burial place for Jacob Stouffer. The name might not be legible by now but I want to check. Do you happen to remember the source for his burial location? I have not been able to bring up the tombstone pictures of Magdalena Hess Stouffer's parents (Hans & Magdalena Hess) on Virtual Cemetery. If you do not have a tombstone picture of Abraham Stouffer born 1747, I can send you an attachment on your email. Barbara

The information that I have on Jacob Stauffer m. Magdalena Hess has him buried in Witwer-Holl. Cem, Earl Twp., Lancaster Co., PA in 1775, but I do not have burial information for her. I have never seen a picture of this tombstone. However, a long time ago I did find pictures of Magdalena's parents' tombstones and those pictures are on Virtual Cemetery. I am also a descendant of Abraham Stouffer. Patty Wise >From: "mstauf" <mstauf@comcast.net> >Reply-To: PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com >To: PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PALANCAS] Lancaster Co PA - HESS & STOUFFER GRAVE SITE??? - 1775 >Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 16:38:55 -0400 > >Henry Jacob & Magdalena HESS STOUFFER lived in Donegal Twp and had also >lived in Warwick Twp of Lancaster County. I believe they paid some taxes in >Mount Joy Twp. I see that Mount Joy is near Lebanon County so hope I am >not searching for graves in an incorrect county. > >There was a picture of their tombstones on the Internet at one time but I >have not found that website and have not found their graves. Jacob died >1775 >and Magdalena a few years later. > >Henry Jacob Stouffer was the father of the Abraham Stouffer that married >Barbara Hershey and Elizabeth Boyer. > >Can anyone help us locate the graves? >Appreciatively >BK Stauffer > > >==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== >This is your list use and enjoy for genealogy. >

Charles, Great doing,s. I am out of luck to add or study your hard work researching over the years, as I am only paying for E-mail (a very same fee) no employment for a long time, bottom of SS and in the "gap", being born in 1925, sad but true.) Thank You Ernest Weinhold DEWeinhold@juno.com

I was able to confirm that the Stauffer Graveyard is in Elizabeth Twp. (once part of old Warwick Twp) Lancaster County. In Grave Undertakings, Vol. 1, Elizabeth Twp. "Grave Inscriptions of Old Warwick", by Martha J. Xakellis, Clossen Press 1989, pg 96, here is a photo of the old graveyard location with a list of nine gravestones. There is a Jacob & Magdalena Stauffer buried there but the dates of death do not match the ones you had asked about. All dates of death are in the 1800s (1805-1855). -------------- Original message -------------- From: "mstauf" <mstauf@comcast.net> > Henry Jacob & Magdalena HESS STOUFFER lived in Donegal Twp and had also > lived in Warwick Twp of Lancaster County. I believe they paid some taxes in > Mount Joy Twp. I see that Mount Joy is near Lebanon County so hope I am > not searching for graves in an incorrect county. > > There was a picture of their tombstones on the Internet at one time but I > have not found that website and have not found their graves. Jacob died 1775 > and Magdalena a few years later. > > Henry Jacob Stouffer was the father of the Abraham Stouffer that married > Barbara Hershey and Elizabeth Boyer. > > Can anyone help us locate the graves? > Appreciatively > BK Stauffer > > > ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== > This is your list use and enjoy for genealogy. >

All those people with the same names is so confusing but you are right that there was another Jacob and Magdalena Stouffer. Thank you for your reply. Appreciatively