Hello Group, I am researching Francis Patterson, father of Col. Robert Patterson, of Bedford/Cumberland counties. Robert was one of the founders of Lexington KY. Francis remained in PA until about 1787, when the family migrated to the claims in Lexington. I have seen much information in KY about Robert, for obvious reasons and very little about his family. Specifically, my interest is in his younger half brother William. William and Robert were partners in KY and worked together to make the KY claims ready for the rest of the family. I suspect William is a direct ancestor, as he is in the same areas of KY as my ancestor Jonathan Patterson. I have read Conover's book, "Concerning the Forefathers" and I am looking for new material on this subject. Any help or dialog on this topic would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Regards, Robert L. Patterson, Jr. Robs

Researching John Moore b.abt.1811/1812 m. Catharine Milholland (and many variations!). John may have been born in Mt. Holly, Lancaster, PA. Cannot find Mt. Holly in Lancaster Co.,Pa. Any suggestions? John and Catharine had 4 boys, Mentor, James F., John W., Wiliam W., and 1 daughter, Margaret Virginia. William W., killed in Civil War. Lived in Maryland after 1860. Any help greatly appreciate. Jeanne

Please note my new e-mail address---- Houston_nancy@msn.com<mailto:Houston_nancy@msn.com> I don't want to lose any of you Nancy

Alan, I believe this is the old Amity School, which my Mother attended. Please correct me if I am wrong. Yvonne

Hello All, I was recently driving up 896 to Lancaster and I saw a well preserved old building which may have been a church/meeting house or school house and I was wondering if some knew what it was since there was no sign. It was near Christiana, PA and was right next to Andrew’s Bridge Church – on the right side if you are going north on 896. Alan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/328 - Release Date: 5/1/2006

I will be visiting and researching in the Lancaster area in a couple of weeks. I need to find a place to board my golden retriever for the day while I am at the courthouse and library. Thanks for any suggestions Jim in Vermont

Hi Seeing your email on the octorra cemetery reminded me that I'd been meaning to email you. Over a year ago, there was a project to put on CD the genealogy information from the Journal/Newsletter of the (I think) Southern Lancaster Hist Soc. Do you know if they ever finished the project? Checked their website but there is now no mention of publications. Josette Maxwell Boone NC .

Thanks for the great description! I do have the transcriptions of the stones I was looking for, but I want to go down to get photos of them. Your information and description of the area does help a lot. Thanks again! "A Volunteer for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at http://www.raogk.org/"

Joe ~ Thanks so much. I get down to Bartville/Nine Points area at least twice a month so I'll definitely travel 372 the next time I go. I found Middle Octorara in the ADC Lancaster Co mapbook, and it looks like it is on the south side of 372. On the north side, a little to the west, it says Octorara Cemetery. I will definitely check that out the next time I'm down that way, as it "matches" what the SLCHS website says, "this cemetery is located west of the church-yard." Regarding "no church records known to exist", it would figure!! Thanks again for your help! Wanda "A Volunteer for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at http://www.raogk.org/"

I visited this cemetery within the past two weeks. It is across the road from the Middle Octorara Presbyterian Church. The church is very plain on the outside and although it is no longer used as a church, it is obvious that someone is maintaining the building and the cemetery. The cemetery is not overly large and is located on a hill. I was able to do a quick walk-through of the cemetery in under a half hour. Most of the stone are readable. I think either the Lancaster Mennonite Historical Society or the Lancaster County Historical Society should have transcriptions of this cemetery. On Apr 30, 2006, at 8:17 PM, blabonteluvr@aol.com wrote: > I'm trying to find the location of the Octorara United Presbyterian > Cemetery. > I believe it is in Bart Twp., but not sure. I know of the Middle > and Upper > Octorara Cemeteries but not this one. I found some names I was > searching for, > in this cemetery, listed on the Southern Lancaster Co. Historical > Society > website, but it doesn't give the location. There was no contact > info, or a name, > of the submitter. Here is some of the info it does have: > > "This cemetery is located west of the church-yard. It is enclosed > with a > stone wall with the entrance gate in the middle of the eastern > wall. From this > gate an open drive-way extends westward to the center of the > cemetery. Several > members of Middle Octorara are buried here: among them two Ruling > Elders. Our > list of burials will begin with the first row of stones to the > right as we enter > the cemetery. The stones are not placed in as well defined rows as > those in > the cemeteries of Middle Octorara, but they are nearly enough in > line for our > purpose, which is not only to record the names of those buried > there but also > to enable strangers and visitors more easily to locate any desired > grave." > > I also couldn't find a church with this name. I have tried a > google search, > with no luck and tried various other sites, but no luck on them > either. I > will email the SLCHS also but don't know if I will get a response > from them. If > anyone has any information, please let me know. > Thanks much, > Wanda > > "A Volunteer for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at > http://www.raogk.org/" > > > ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== > http//www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html > You are responsible for following the A.U.P. > Acceptable Use Policy >

I'm trying to find the location of the Octorara United Presbyterian Cemetery. I believe it is in Bart Twp., but not sure. I know of the Middle and Upper Octorara Cemeteries but not this one. I found some names I was searching for, in this cemetery, listed on the Southern Lancaster Co. Historical Society website, but it doesn't give the location. There was no contact info, or a name, of the submitter. Here is some of the info it does have: "This cemetery is located west of the church-yard. It is enclosed with a stone wall with the entrance gate in the middle of the eastern wall. From this gate an open drive-way extends westward to the center of the cemetery. Several members of Middle Octorara are buried here: among them two Ruling Elders. Our list of burials will begin with the first row of stones to the right as we enter the cemetery. The stones are not placed in as well defined rows as those in the cemeteries of Middle Octorara, but they are nearly enough in line for our purpose, which is not only to record the names of those buried there but also to enable strangers and visitors more easily to locate any desired grave." I also couldn't find a church with this name. I have tried a google search, with no luck and tried various other sites, but no luck on them either. I will email the SLCHS also but don't know if I will get a response from them. If anyone has any information, please let me know. Thanks much, Wanda "A Volunteer for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at http://www.raogk.org/"

Wanda: according to Churches and Cemeteries of Lancaster Co. Pa. A Compledte Guide ed by A Hunter Rineer Jr. on page 43 it is on the North side of Valley Road (Pa. Rte. 372) it is listed as an associate or Covenanter Church, original United Presbyterian and was founded in 1754. looks like no church records are known to exist accorfding to Rineer. in 1941 it was officiall disbanded by Philadlephia Presbytery. (if there are any records that is where you should write to see about it...unfortunately I have no further info to give you on this... and you are right it is listed as in Bart Twp.... Joe Wolfe

I wanted to let all Bear/Barr/Bair etc researchers know that the Bear Surname DNA-Project website has been updated. We now have results from 34 descendants of this surname representing 14 different Bear/Barr etc family lines. Both Swiss-German and Scotts-Irish lines are represented. Two of the participants are still living in Switzerland. All Barr descendants (of any spelling variation) are welcome to participate. Since my Bair ancestry is from Lancaster and Chester Counties in Pennsylvania, I would particularly welcome participants with ancestry from this area. www.geocities.com/bear_dna_project (note the underscores in the address) Cathi Desmarais, Co-Adminstrator of the project (gggranddaughter of William Bair, 1812-1893, Lancaster and Chester Counties, PA)

I also contacted the Library of Congress about a map of Berks County that would show land ownership prior to 1800. They didn't find exactly what I wanted but are sending me photocopies of what they did find. Kathy -----Original Message----- From: Richard Emlin Reed [mailto:remlinr@tampabay.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 11:19 AM To: PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PALANCAS] Berks County I have a copy of that map. Its dimensions are approximately 12 by 20 inches. The heading is COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA GOVERNOR DICK THORNBURGH GENEALOGICAL MAP OF THE COUNTIES COMPILED AND PREPARED IN THE BUREAU OF LAND RECORDS - 1933 NINTH EDITION 1981 "On 1 July 1981 the Bureau of Land Records became a division of the Bureau of Archives and History. Address of the Division of Land Records, Bureau of Archives and History, William Penn Memorial Museum & Archives Building, Box 1026, Harrisburg, PA 17120, (717) 787-7180." You can try the foregoing address; you can also use this website. http://www.pagenweb.org/map/index.html Richard Emlin Reed Wesley Chapel, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel E Weinhold" <deweinhold@juno.com> To: <PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [PALANCAS] Berks County > Kathleen, > > There IS a State Map printed by the state (PA) SOME year,s ago SHOWING > the "beginning's of all the Counties, in color. I wish I could tell you > now, how to obtain one. > > D. Ernest Weinhold > DEWeinhold@juno.com > > > ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== > No political statements to this list. > No religious statements. ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== When replying to the list change the subject line if you change the subject.

Thank you, Richard. Kathy -----Original Message----- From: Richard Emlin Reed [mailto:remlinr@tampabay.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 11:19 AM To: PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PALANCAS] Berks County I have a copy of that map. Its dimensions are approximately 12 by 20 inches. The heading is COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA GOVERNOR DICK THORNBURGH GENEALOGICAL MAP OF THE COUNTIES COMPILED AND PREPARED IN THE BUREAU OF LAND RECORDS - 1933 NINTH EDITION 1981 "On 1 July 1981 the Bureau of Land Records became a division of the Bureau of Archives and History. Address of the Division of Land Records, Bureau of Archives and History, William Penn Memorial Museum & Archives Building, Box 1026, Harrisburg, PA 17120, (717) 787-7180." You can try the foregoing address; you can also use this website. http://www.pagenweb.org/map/index.html Richard Emlin Reed Wesley Chapel, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel E Weinhold" <deweinhold@juno.com> To: <PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [PALANCAS] Berks County > Kathleen, > > There IS a State Map printed by the state (PA) SOME year,s ago SHOWING > the "beginning's of all the Counties, in color. I wish I could tell you > now, how to obtain one. > > D. Ernest Weinhold > DEWeinhold@juno.com > > > ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== > No political statements to this list. > No religious statements. ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== When replying to the list change the subject line if you change the subject.

I have a copy of that map. Its dimensions are approximately 12 by 20 inches. The heading is COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA GOVERNOR DICK THORNBURGH GENEALOGICAL MAP OF THE COUNTIES COMPILED AND PREPARED IN THE BUREAU OF LAND RECORDS - 1933 NINTH EDITION 1981 "On 1 July 1981 the Bureau of Land Records became a division of the Bureau of Archives and History. Address of the Division of Land Records, Bureau of Archives and History, William Penn Memorial Museum & Archives Building, Box 1026, Harrisburg, PA 17120, (717) 787-7180." You can try the foregoing address; you can also use this website. http://www.pagenweb.org/map/index.html Richard Emlin Reed Wesley Chapel, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel E Weinhold" <deweinhold@juno.com> To: <PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [PALANCAS] Berks County > Kathleen, > > There IS a State Map printed by the state (PA) SOME year,s ago SHOWING > the "beginning's of all the Counties, in color. I wish I could tell you > now, how to obtain one. > > D. Ernest Weinhold > DEWeinhold@juno.com > > > ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== > No political statements to this list. > No religious statements.

Hey gang, Just a short reminder to the vets and newbies at this site of my free research for the asking here at Andersonville. Please email me directly at Frye@pstel.net with request so we dont tie up the county site. Kevin Andersonville Historic Site Historian / NPS Volunteer www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html or go to google.com and search " Andersonville Kevin Frye " My site will come up.

Hi everyone, This is my first post to the list so allow me to introduce myself. My name is Gerry Hammond, 62, retired home builder, residing on Cape Cod. I am looking for the parents of the following William SMITH, whose daughter Mary married Brig. Gen. Otho Holland Williams: SMITH, William, Continental congressman, congressman; b. Donegal Twp., Lancaster County, Pa., Apr. 12, 1728. Moved to Balt., 1761; apptd. mem. Com. of Correspondence, 1774; mem Com. of Observation, 1775; on com. apptd. by Congress to constitute naval board, 1777; mem Continental Congress from Md., 1777, 78; on com. to organize defense of Balt., and to address and receive Gen Washington, 1781; became mcht.; mem. U.S. Ho. of Reps. (Federalist) from Md., 1st Congress, 1789-91; 1st auditor U.S. Treasury, 1791; presdl. elector, 1796; mem. Md. Senate, 1801. Died Balt., Mar. 27, 1814; buried Old Westminster Graveyard. [From Who was Who in the U.S., vol. H] Any help would be much appreciatd. Sincerely, Gerry Hammond East Dennis, Mass.

My GG-Grandmother Petronella ,last name unknown, was born 1827 and came to America in 1841.She lived in Lancaster PA .My Great-Grandmother said Petronella was related to John A. Sutter and they would visit him when he lived in Lititz PA. Does anyone have any info on a Petronella ???????????? Roy Hunter <>< HUNTR404@cs.com Petronella's 1st husband was Henry Weber Petronella's 2nd husband was Lawrence Schmidt , their daughter Margaret Schmidt married Daniel W. Diffenbaugh.

Yvonne,His name was was Isaac Detrick. The spelling of course changes . In 1836 when he married it was Detric,in 1870,Deetrick,1860, Deeters. He was supposedly born in 1809/1810,Lancaster County,Pa. Thanks! Susie -------Original Message------- From: MarkleVon@aol.com Date: 04/19/06 07:33:19 To: PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PALANCAS] Berks County-De Turks Susie, what is your gggGrandfather's name?? Perhaps someone can help you. Yvonne ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== When replying to the list change the subject line if you change the subject. -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 3/31/2006 .