I appreciated reading the postings about gencircles. Another, more valuable site that may be of interest: www.lancasterhistory.org When searching the Columbia Spy online, I found a sale ad for an ancestor's property. Shirley __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

When you figure these lists have about 200 + members with high speed internet access - multiply those 200 + members with everyone else out there doing genealogy...... OH MY. And people still take it as gospel and never cite a source. ----- Original Message ----- From: <FamilyHart@aol.com> To: <PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [PALANCAS] www gencircles com > > > In a message dated 6/21/2006 11:27:00 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, > zuli@sprintmail.com writes: > > And be wary of sharing a hypothetical "working thesis" with anyone, even > though clearly labeled hypothetical. > > I shared an unproven thesis with a distant relative fifteen years ago and, > without my knowledge, he posted the thetical material on a well-known > genealogical Website. When correct information was discovered that obviated my > "working thesis," the Website owner refused to let me make corrections and, despite > repeated pleas to the relative who had posted it, the erroneous material > remained available on the Website for twelve years before the relative corrected > the error. Unfortunately, that erroneous data is still being perpetuated in > other resources to which it was copied from the Website that originally > published the erroneous data. > > I know we all share unproven genealogical data in an effort to be helpful to > other researchers but please be very wary of doing this. In today's world of > facile and rapid communication, it is impossible to control how such data > spreads and how it is used by others! > > Nelson R. Sulouff > > > <> > > On the other hand, on our site where we do make corrections constantly, a > working thesis will often bring critical review and correction in a much faster > manner. We are constantly comparing our data with available records and > making corrections. We also receive constant feedback from the Internet public. > Now having said that the comparisons come at a slower rate than the input of > unsubstantiated data. People just need to understand that data coming from > LDS Ancestry File, Ancestry Worldtree, Rootsweb WorldConnect and the like > needs to be looked at with suspicion until it can be verified against primary > records. > > Thanks! > > Don & Jeanine Hartman > FamilyHart > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/familyhart/ > > Rootsweb List Admins for: > Pennsylvania, PADutchGenONLY, Penna-Dutch, PAYork, PA-York-Gen, > MD-Fred-Gen, MDWashin, Burket, Dierdorff, Gotshall, Glattfelder, Hartman, > Kohr, Kaufman, Sturm > > USGENWEB CCs for: York Co., PA; Franklin Co., PA; Frederick Co., MD; > Washington Co., MD > > > > > ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== > This is your list use and enjoy for genealogy. >

In a message dated 6/21/2006 3:43:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, FamilyHart@aol.com writes: People just need to understand that data coming from LDS Ancestry File, Ancestry Worldtree, Rootsweb WorldConnect and the like needs to be looked at with suspicion until it can be verified against primary records. Thanks! Don & Jeanine Hartman --- And, as always, the answer to incorrectly posted data that you have no control over and that the submitter will not correct is to post your correct database beside it in the same place--such as WorldConnect and then if you properly document your file the researchers finding the data in the future can decide for themselves which is accurate and which isn't. The best way to combact inaccurate data is always with the correct data with sources listed. Joan

In a message dated 6/21/2006 11:27:00 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, zuli@sprintmail.com writes: And be wary of sharing a hypothetical "working thesis" with anyone, even though clearly labeled hypothetical. I shared an unproven thesis with a distant relative fifteen years ago and, without my knowledge, he posted the thetical material on a well-known genealogical Website. When correct information was discovered that obviated my "working thesis," the Website owner refused to let me make corrections and, despite repeated pleas to the relative who had posted it, the erroneous material remained available on the Website for twelve years before the relative corrected the error. Unfortunately, that erroneous data is still being perpetuated in other resources to which it was copied from the Website that originally published the erroneous data. I know we all share unproven genealogical data in an effort to be helpful to other researchers but please be very wary of doing this. In today's world of facile and rapid communication, it is impossible to control how such data spreads and how it is used by others! Nelson R. Sulouff <> On the other hand, on our site where we do make corrections constantly, a working thesis will often bring critical review and correction in a much faster manner. We are constantly comparing our data with available records and making corrections. We also receive constant feedback from the Internet public. Now having said that the comparisons come at a slower rate than the input of unsubstantiated data. People just need to understand that data coming from LDS Ancestry File, Ancestry Worldtree, Rootsweb WorldConnect and the like needs to be looked at with suspicion until it can be verified against primary records. Thanks! Don & Jeanine Hartman FamilyHart http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/familyhart/ Rootsweb List Admins for: Pennsylvania, PADutchGenONLY, Penna-Dutch, PAYork, PA-York-Gen, MD-Fred-Gen, MDWashin, Burket, Dierdorff, Gotshall, Glattfelder, Hartman, Kohr, Kaufman, Sturm USGENWEB CCs for: York Co., PA; Franklin Co., PA; Frederick Co., MD; Washington Co., MD

you can google them all ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy P Hunter" <rghunter3@juno.com> To: <PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 3:29 PM Subject: [PALANCAS] address > 1741 St Mary's Church Lancaster City > 1850 St Joseph's Church Lancaster City > 1870 St Anthony's Church Lancaster City > > Would someone please send me the addresses for the above churches ? > > Thanks, > Roy <>< rghunter3@juno.com > > > ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== > List Owner can be reached for help with the list at > PALANCAS-Admin@rootsweb.com >

just that it was free I guess for a period of time. I don't go in there much but think maybe you have to pay a membership fee to get more information than just signing up for browsing. ----- Original Message ----- From: <LWhite8470@aol.com> To: <PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 7:07 AM Subject: Re: [PALANCAS] www gencircles com > I didn't get the information about this site for some reason. Could someone > please sed me it? > > Thanks so much, > > > Liz White > > > ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== > This is your list use and enjoy for genealogy. >

In a message dated 6/21/2006 6:59:34 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, MarkleVon@aol.com writes: Please be carefull also where you place your information. I sent a family tree to a private family society, only to have it show up on gencirlces.com, including information on myself. I contacted the person responsable for posting it, and she wrote back indicating that gencircles would not allow her to pull or edit this information. She is supposedly still trying. I agree........not only should we use this resource with caution, we should contribute to it with caution. I found some personal emails of mine cut and pasted into a tree on gencircles. I attempted to contact the person who posted the info, but the email address was dead. The personal email of mine which was posted contained pretty harmless information, but it still made me feel quite uncomfortable. And if it is true that gencircles will not allow you to edit your info, I just wouldn't contribute, period.

And be wary of sharing a hypothetical "working thesis" with anyone, even though clearly labeled hypothetical. I shared an unproven thesis with a distant relative fifteen years ago and, without my knowledge, he posted the thetical material on a well-known genealogical Website. When correct information was discovered that obviated my "working thesis," the Website owner refused to let me make corrections and, despite repeated pleas to the relative who had posted it, the erroneous material remained available on the Website for twelve years before the relative corrected the error. Unfortunately, that erroneous data is still being perpetuated in other resources to which it was copied from the Website that originally published the erroneous data. I know we all share unproven genealogical data in an effort to be helpful to other researchers but please be very wary of doing this. In today's world of facile and rapid communication, it is impossible to control how such data spreads and how it is used by others! Nelson R. Sulouff ////////////////////////////////// ----- Original Message ----- From: MarkleVon@aol.com To: PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 4:10 AM Subject: Re: [PALANCAS] www gencircles com Please be carefull also where you place your information. I sent a family tree to a private family society, only to have it show up on gencirlces.com, including information on myself. I contacted the person responsable for posting it, and she wrote back indicating that gencircles would not allow her to pull or edit this information. She is supposedly still trying. Yvonne

Please be carefull also where you place your information. I sent a family tree to a private family society, only to have it show up on gencirlces.com, including information on myself. I contacted the person responsable for posting it, and she wrote back indicating that gencircles would not allow her to pull or edit this information. She is supposedly still trying. Yvonne

Absolutely!!!!!! That is why I got my books and notes out after I read all the info posted. I knew some of it was wrong as soon as I read it. I only use sites/info like this as guide lines--not just to copy. There is someone posting info on one of my family lines for the past several years on various sites that are inaccurate, incomplete or just plain wrong and doesn't seem interested in correcting it. Then other people blindly copy and recopy the same junk over and over....... So--to thine own self be true!!! Jean

be careful though people. I went in looking around and found an old 2002 posting declaring the parents of one man that is not correct. I have since been talking to said person just recently on that very subject. He is stating the parents of this one guy are someone that is not. I think we are all guilty of using other's work that is not correct. That is how things get passed along that are so very incorrect. Just because its free or just because you have to pay for it doesn't make it real unless you get it straight from the horses mouth...... court houses, etc. Janean ----- Original Message ----- From: <familyhx3@rcn.com> To: <PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [PALANCAS] www gencircles com > Shirley....thanks so much for letting us know about the free > access. I found about a ton of info on one branch of the family > tree that was almost bare! I stayed on the computer all > night...literally! The birds were chirping and I was still finding > leads that I was sure didn't exist. Today I pulled out a stack of > books to retrace some old lines. Thanks again for being so > kind and helpful! Jean > > > ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== > When replying to the list change the subject line if you change the subject. >

Thanks Sounds like a different bunch. I have mine back to Alexandria Va about 1800 but am having trouble from there. Thanks again Doug

Hi Doug---the Hall's are on my husbands side of the family---his Hall's originated from England to NY and then on to Utah about 1840. They are a Mormon family and have traced their roots way back---I think the eldest Hall is a John Hall b c. 1605 in England.----------Sharon

Hi Sharon I don't know about your Sharps but I am interested in your Halls. Have you done any work on that line? Are they from Va in the late 18th/early 19th century by chance? Doug

Here is an abstract of it ( from http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/lancaster/ ): SHARP, THOMAS Twp. omitted. October 24, 1747 February 5, 1758 Wife: Ketrine Sharp. Children: John, Ann, Sarah, Thomas and Mary. Ex.: Philip Robinson and John Sharp. SHARON HALL wrote: >Hi all -- I am new to the list and would like to know if anyone might have a copy of or a transcript of the will for a Thomas Sharp dated Oct. 1757 and proved Feb. 1758. Thomas Sharp was b. 1695 in Scotland and d. Feb. 5 1758 Lancaster, PA. Some have him m. to Mary McClelland and a Katrina.---I don't know if he was m. to one or both---any help on this?-- > >I have his children listed as John Sharp m. Jane Hamilton (whom I descend through), William Sharp, Anne Sharp, and a Sarah Sharp---does anyone know of any other children and have anything to share on these listed children--- > >Any help would be greatly appreciated---Sharon Hall smhall8@msn.com<mailto:smhall8@msn.com> > > >==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== >When replying to the list change the subject line if you change the subject. > > > >

Thank you very much Abby---the abstract answers one thing for sure---he did have a wife Ketrine--, and another son, a Thomas. Now I will have to see if I can get a copy of the actual will from the Lancaster Co, PA will archives.---I can see that this list will be very helpful---thanks again---Sharon

Hi all -- I am new to the list and would like to know if anyone might have a copy of or a transcript of the will for a Thomas Sharp dated Oct. 1757 and proved Feb. 1758. Thomas Sharp was b. 1695 in Scotland and d. Feb. 5 1758 Lancaster, PA. Some have him m. to Mary McClelland and a Katrina.---I don't know if he was m. to one or both---any help on this?-- I have his children listed as John Sharp m. Jane Hamilton (whom I descend through), William Sharp, Anne Sharp, and a Sarah Sharp---does anyone know of any other children and have anything to share on these listed children--- Any help would be greatly appreciated---Sharon Hall smhall8@msn.com<mailto:smhall8@msn.com>

1741 St Mary's Church Lancaster City 1850 St Joseph's Church Lancaster City 1870 St Anthony's Church Lancaster City Would someone please send me the addresses for the above churches ? Thanks, Roy <>< rghunter3@juno.com

Where could I find the 1849 or 1850 marriage record for Henry weaver or Weber and a Petronella (Penelopy on 1850 census)? Thanks, Roy

1880 Census, Lancaster, Dist. 155, Lancaster Co., PA Smith, Lawerance 55 Shoe Mender b. Switzerland parents b. Switzerland Pratonella 50 b. Switzerland parents b. Switzerland Maggie 20 Works in Laundry b. PA Augustus 7 b. PA Emma 9 b. PA I am looking for information on the above family. Roy Hunter <>< HUNTR404@cs.com