Land Patent: Transfer of public land to an individual, usually signed by the President, in the past. Land Warrant: An order by a government authorizing some action; a land warrant usually orders the survey of a piece of land prior to the issuance of a land grant. Eric > [Original Message] > From: <LWhite8470@aol.com> > To: <PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 8/9/2006 1:42:59 PM > Subject: Re: [PALANCAS] RE: [PaOldC] Warrant Registers With Green Covers, 1733-1957 > > > > A Warrentee is the person to whom a warranty is made. A Patentee is the one > to whom a patent has been made. > > Hope this helps > > Liz White > > > ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== > No political statements to this list. > No religious statements.

For the novice as to land records, who can define the warrantee and the patentee? Bruce Fosnocht ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Wevodau" <wevo@verizon.net> To: <PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 12:00 AM Subject: [PALANCAS] RE: [PaOldC] Warrant Registers With Green Covers, 1733-1957 >I would agree that I have never seen such a fine genealogical resource so > well hidden. > > In fact, on the same link page, one can find scanned images of the patent > indices--a valuable resource if you know the patentee but not the > warrantee. > > Archivist Jonathan Stayer recently informed me that digital copies of both > original warrants and original surveys should follow over a two-to-five > year > period. > > > > > ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== > This is your list use and enjoy for genealogy.

Does anyone know of a Smith/Schmid family in Manheim T. who went to the First Reformed church in Lancaster in the late 1700's? Daughter Barbara was born c. 1785 from backing out her dob from her tombstone. There is no such surname in Manheim T. in the 1800 census. Richard B.

And a needle in a haystack he must remain. I don't know Leon Reed. I'm sorry I wasn't able to help. Richard Emlin Reed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel E Weinhold" <deweinhold@juno.com> To: <PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [PALANCAS] Daniel Smith/Schmidt > > Richard, > > "A needle in the hay stack" > > Might you know, or heard of a Mr. Leon REED, who at one time (at least) > was a researcher also and either lived in the Washington, DC. area or > Maryland many year,s year,s ago? > > He did me a GREAT favor on a "lost" civil war vet. A long story. > > D. Ernest Weinhold > Manheim, PA > > > ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== > No political statements to this list. > No religious statements.

Hello. Can someone tell me how to find the Lemberger Cemetery in Lebanon County? I have a house guest from California that would like to go to the Lemberger Cemetery to visit the graves of her g-grandparents. Any help would be appreciated. Darlene

I would agree that I have never seen such a fine genealogical resource so well hidden. In fact, on the same link page, one can find scanned images of the patent indices--a valuable resource if you know the patentee but not the warrantee. Archivist Jonathan Stayer recently informed me that digital copies of both original warrants and original surveys should follow over a two-to-five year period.

First, thank you for posting this. It answers a lot of questions about the Cunningham Patton family, including the name of his wife (my 4th great grandmother). Second, fwiw, the name of the housekeeper in William McLaughlin's home in 1880 was Sarah Hagan, according to the transcribed version of the census at familysearch.org. Finally, the individual listed as "Garrison Patton" probably was "Harrison Patton," son of John Patton. Harrison was born c. 1843, according to the 1870 census. I really haven't researched the Spence family, so I'm afraid I can't help you in return as much as you've helped me. But if I do run across anything, I will let you know. I don't know if this means anything, but Jesse and Rebecca Spence are buried next to the family of John McCombs at the Mt. Nebo Methodist Church cemetery. But that could be just coincidence. Best, Richard Aurand Sherer

Richard, "A needle in the hay stack" Might you know, or heard of a Mr. Leon REED, who at one time (at least) was a researcher also and either lived in the Washington, DC. area or Maryland many year,s year,s ago? He did me a GREAT favor on a "lost" civil war vet. A long story. D. Ernest Weinhold Manheim, PA

Daniel Smith/Schmidt, son of Johannes and Catharine, was born on 22 Mar 1804 and baptized on 6 May 1804, according to the records of the Swamp Reformed Church in West Cocalico Twp. It appears that Daniel spent his entire life in Cocalico; the 1880 census shows Daniel, retired farmer, 75, and wife Anna, 65, in West Cocalico Twp. I think Daniel had two wives, Catharine Gerhard and Anna ?. Can anyone help me to fill some of the gaps in Daniel's vital statistics? Richard Emlin Reed Wesley Chapel, FL

Just passing along information for more records searches, in Pennsylvania Janean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gwen Boyer Bjorkman" <gwenbj@seanet.com> To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 3:46 PM Subject: [PaOldC] Warrant Registers With Green Covers, 1733-1957 > Received this today in Evertons Newsline. > > DIGITIZED WARRANT REGISTERS ARE ONLINE AT THE PENNSYLVANIA STATE ARCHIVES WEBSITE > The Pennsylvania Warrant Registers serve as an index to the land warrants, surveys, and patents for > about 70 percent of the land in Pennsylvania, covering the dates 1733 to 1957. If you have > Pennsylvania roots, you MUST go check out these indexes. You would never know that these records are > on the Pennsylvania State Archives website unless someone told you. > > To access images of the warrant registers online, use the State Archives Web site at the URL, > http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/bah/dam. Click on the "Record Groups" hyperlink; then Record Group 17, > "Land Office"; and finally look for the "Images" link under No. 17.88, "Warrant Registers With Green > Covers, 1733-1957." > > > Gwen Boyer Bjorkman > gwenbj@seanet.com > > > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribing..... To leave PA-old-chester-l, send mail to > PA-old-chester-l-request@rootsweb.com with the single word unsubscribe in the message or subject slot." > > > NO VIRUS WARNINGS - if you are concerned contact me PERSONALLY ferg@ntelos.net > > Visit the archives for this list to view old postings > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=PA-OLD-CHESTER > > If you have ANY problems, do not send them to the list > contact me personally....list manager ferg@ntelos.net > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

I was checking into court records for William McLaughlin of Martic township, I think there was someone on the list looking into this family in Martic I thought this OC court record may be of help to someone else. I am also going to list what I was actually looking for below If anyone has information on these family lines and help would be appreciated. Misc book 1892-1893 pg 251-256 William McLaughlin died intestate May 1, 1893 Martic township, Lancaster County, Pa Left no children, siblings or ancestors, did leave widow Margaret A. McLaughlin Petition of only 1st cousin surviving Patty Maffet to evaluate land, later in document said land could not be divided and information on the sale of the property Estate ruled to be divided between widow and Patty Maffett only surviving 1st cousin of William McLaughlin. Descendants of Uncle Exparte Materna 1 Patty MAFFETT Phelps, Ontario County, Ny who is a daughter of Josiah Maffett deaceased, who was an uncle of William McLaughlin 2 Mary J. BENTON Phelps, Ontario County, Ny granddaughter of Josiah Maffett, dec'd 3 Rodger E. BENTON Cunningham, Kingston County, Kansas grandson of Josiah Maffett, dec'd 4 John C. BENTON Phelps, Ontario County, Ny grandson of Josiah Maffett, dec'd The following named grandchildren of Mary or Polly MAFFETT wife of Cunningham PATTON both dec'd and whose children are also dec'd 1 James Clark PATTON 1814 9th Ave, Counsil Bluff Iowa 2 Garrison L. PATTON New Cumberland, Cumberland County, Pa 3 Walter H. PATTON 151 Paxton Street, Harrisburg, Pa 4 Edwin F. PATTON 205 2nd Street, Harrisburg, Pa 5 Mary Jane Baum wife of James Baum 1330 N 3rd Street, Harrisburg, Pa 6 Evangaline M Whitecombe wife of George Whitecombe 255 Liberty Street, Harrisburg, Pa 7 Laura E. Stoner wife of Hugh Stoner 1330 N 2nd Street, Harrisburg, Pa C. Emma Yost wife of Dr John F. Yost Bethesda, Lancaster County, Pa and granddaughter of Mary or Polly Patton dec'd and daughter of said Mary's son John Patton dec'd D. Mrs. Mary E. Barnhart widow Liberty Square, Lancaster County, Pa and granddaughter of Mary or Polly Patton dec'd and daughter of Ellen Snavely dec'd E. The following named grandchildren of Mary or Polly Patton, dec'd Aunt of William McLaughlin and mother of George Patton dec'd who had the following named children to wit: 1 Amos PATTON Columbia, Lancaster County, Pa 2 Isaac PATTON Lancaster, Pa 3 C. George PATTON Columbia, Lancaster County, Pa 4 Oliver C. PATTON Bethesda, Lancaster County, Pa 5 John M. PATTON Columbia, Lancaster County, Pa 6 Mary E. PATTON Bethesda, Lancaster County, Pa 7 Grandchildren of said Mary or Polly deceased mother of Josiah PATTON dec'd and aunt of William McLaughlin the names and number and residence of which children we have thus far been unable to asertain. Blood relatives Exparte Paterna Mrs Maria King (widow) 140 South Queen Street, Lancaster, Pa who is a granddaughter of Rachel McLaughlin dec'd who was the wife of William Colvin dec'd. The said Rachel McLaughlin dec'd was the great aunt of the decedent William McLaughlin who was the 2nd cousin of Maria King I am not informed nor can I learn of any other relations of the decedent exparte Paterna ---------------------- My interest in William McLaughlin was John Spence who is in his household listed as a nephew in 1880, I wanted to know how William & John were related, since John's sister Margaret (Spence) Dorsey is my ancestor. Obviously not through Williams family by the above list. He must be related through Williams first wife Mary S. who died in 1879. John Spence was a son of Jesse and Rebecca Spence of Martic township. I haven't figured out Rebecca's maiden name yet. Making it a little figuring out the relationship between them. Marie 1870 Bethsda, Martic township, Lancaster County MclUGHLIN,William 55 farmer real estate value 4000 personal 2000 born Pa Mary S. 49 SPENCE, John 30 works on farm born Pa Mary 28 domestic servant born Pa Dorsey,Louis A 11 born PA NEXT NAME MclUGHLIN,John 49 Margaret 53 Jennett 80 1870 Martic Lancaster County MOSS, James 42 all born Pa (his mother and father foreign birth) Rebecca 36 (she is a daughter of Rebecca Spence & Jesse dec'd) Ida 18 Walter 16 Charles 8 Maybel 7 Alfred 6 Maud 4/12 next listing SPENCE, Rebecca 63 born Pa DORSEY, Lucretia 13 (Daughter of John Hammond Dorsey and Margaret Spence) None of above people are marked as having mother or father of foreign birth 1880 Martic township, Lancaster County McLUGHLIN, Wm 66 farmer widow all Born Pa fathers born Pa mothers born Pa HUGN?, Sarah 60 servant keeping house NELSON, Lydia 25 servant SPENCE, John 49 nephew laborer one family between then SPENCE, Rebecca 72 keeping house born Pa father Pa mother Pa Next house PATTON, Geo 50 farmer all born Pa fathers Pa mothers Pa Mary Ann 46 wife Amos ?C 19 Isaac ?C 16 bracket with next child >Twin Boys Geo McLennen 16 Oliver C. 11 John M.10 Mary C. 2

Hi, all! Anyone out there have any info on SWARTZ or BLACK families in Lancaster Co. during the late 1700's? My ancestor, Barbara SWARTZ (01 Apr 1796-01 Sep 1872) m. Christian HALDEMAN. They resided in Rapho Twp., Lancaster Co. I have been trying to find information on her parentage. My best guess is that her father was John SWARTZ, (alias BLACK) Junior (d. 1799), and that her grandfather was John BLACK, Senior, m. Maria, of Mountjoy Twp.. Any info on this family would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! Patty Haldeman Wise I have found the following tidbits: 1785 - Land record referring to Abraham BLACK and his wife Ann, John BLACK, Senior, and his wife, Maria, and John BLACK, Junior, and Mary BLACK, spinster - all of Mountjoy Twp. U.S. Census, 1790, PA, Lancaster Co., Mt. Joy John Swartz 1-1-3-0-0 U.S. Census, 1790, PA, Lancaster Co., Elizabethtown John Swartz, Jr. 2-1-4-0-0 John SWARTZ m. Elizabeth OLDWEILER, 17 JUN 1792 in Elizabethtown, PA John SWARTZ m. Anna Maria SNIDER, April 11, 1796 Thomas JACOB, March 1, 1792, 100 acres on Conewago Creek, one mile from his other land; 96 acres, warrant March 1st; survey, March 1st; patent, Sept. 19, 1743 (as I have it from the patent to Thomas Jacob, enrolled in Patent Book A, vol. ii. page 22, etc.). Belonged to John WEBSTER; now belongs to John BLACK, of Lancaster. Orphan's Court 1801-1803, p. 19, 7/28/1801: "John Swartz, alias Black dec'd. Abraham MEYER and Henry RUTT administrators of all and singular the goods and chattels rights and credits which were of John Swartz alias Black the younger late of Mountjoy Township deceased having stated and filed in the Register Office of this county their administration Accoount on the estate of the said deceased and legal notice thereof being given by the said Register the same is now produced to the court for Confirmation. Whereby it appears that the said Account was duly passed by the said Register and that there is a balance in the hands of these Accountants of L691.16.6 œ consisting of outstanding bonds arising out of the real estate of the said deceased and payable at different periods. The court on due examination thereof and advisement had thereon approve of and confirm the same and direct that the saidbalance after deducting there from 11/3 the exzpences of this Court the remainder thereof amounting to L691.5.3 œ be distributed according to Law.” Orphan's Court 1801-1803 p. 20, 7/28/1801: "The Court appoint Henry RUTH of Donegal and Samuel WEAVER of Earl Township Guardians over the estates of John Swartz, Barbara Swartz and Anna Swartz, Minor Children of John Swartz Junior late of Mountjoy Township deceased during their minorities they respectively being under the age of Fourteen years."

At the Lancasterhistory site I did not find any maps. How can I get to the maps? -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: James Stokes <james_l_stokes@yahoo.com> > The Lancaster County Historical Society has a township map as well as a > list of the townships and when they were formed, this for townships currently in > Lancaster County.. (If you download the map and list make sure the list of > townships are numbered, it looks like its easy to download the list but the > numbers that help you identify the townships on the map don't download). > http://lancasterhistory.org > > I've never see a list of the townships that went to other counties. I > guess someone could construct such a list but looking at the townships in York > County that were formed prior to 1749, the townships in Cumberland County that > were formed prior to 1750, the townships of Berks County that were formed before > 1752 and the townships of Lebanaon and Dauphin County formed before 1785 (the > numbers are the years those counties were formed). I believe there were some > townships formed that didn't continue after the new counties were formed, for > example there was a Pequea Twp. in Chester County but when Lancaster County was > formed, it disappeared. A second Pequea Twp. was formed later. > > Jim > Conestoga Area Historical Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacahs/index.htm > > Glouer4@aol.com wrote: > Does anyone know of an online source showing the names of the original > Lancaster townships, and, if possible, their formation dates, and what happened > to > them (that is, to what county they went)? > > Thanks. > > > ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== > When replying to the list change the subject line if you change the subject. > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. > > > ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== > When replying to the list change the subject line if you change the subject. >

An excellent reference for current townships would be Andriot's Township Atlas. In paper back, it is about $85 or 90 last I heard--may be more, but many libraries have it. I have advised people in classes I teach to get their ancestral counties so they can figure out the likelihood of people in various townships meeting...when they had to travel by foot, horseback or horse & buggy. To find out previous townships in a county, you can combine that reference with a book called the Map Guide to the US Census by Dollarhide (I think that's the title, or at least close to it.) It shows the boundaries of counties and territories as they were in various censuses. You may be surprised to find an ancestor in a census in a territory that you didn't expect because of the way the various territories changed boundaries several times before they became states. Karen

http://www.lancasterhistory.org/research/databases/townshipmap.html On Aug 7, 2006, at 10:38 AM, darlingkarol@comcast.net wrote: > At the Lancasterhistory site I did not find any maps. How can I > get to the maps?

Does anyone know of an online source showing the names of the original Lancaster townships, and, if possible, their formation dates, and what happened to them (that is, to what county they went)? Thanks.

The Lancaster County Historical Society has a township map as well as a list of the townships and when they were formed, this for townships currently in Lancaster County.. (If you download the map and list make sure the list of townships are numbered, it looks like its easy to download the list but the numbers that help you identify the townships on the map don't download). http://lancasterhistory.org I've never see a list of the townships that went to other counties. I guess someone could construct such a list but looking at the townships in York County that were formed prior to 1749, the townships in Cumberland County that were formed prior to 1750, the townships of Berks County that were formed before 1752 and the townships of Lebanaon and Dauphin County formed before 1785 (the numbers are the years those counties were formed). I believe there were some townships formed that didn't continue after the new counties were formed, for example there was a Pequea Twp. in Chester County but when Lancaster County was formed, it disappeared. A second Pequea Twp. was formed later. Jim Conestoga Area Historical Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacahs/index.htm Glouer4@aol.com wrote: Does anyone know of an online source showing the names of the original Lancaster townships, and, if possible, their formation dates, and what happened to them (that is, to what county they went)? Thanks. ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== When replying to the list change the subject line if you change the subject. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.

HI, My gg grandmother's name, before she married George Zeller [Zoller]in Brecknock township, Lancaster County in 1839 was Trop. Do you think TROP may be from the TROOP family? Thanks. Richard Zeller -----Original Message----- >From: BSKTBTQUE@aol.com >Sent: Aug 6, 2006 12:58 PM >To: PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [PALANCAS] email extension help > >Hi Karen > >Thank you so much....trying to find a person who left a message on GenForum >for my Wagner/Troop family and email address is not valid...thought I could >track him down knowing where he lived or worked. > >Thanks again, will check out information you sent. >Marie > > >==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== >List Owner can be reached for help with the list at >PALANCAS-Admin@rootsweb.com >

Hi Karen Thank you so much....trying to find a person who left a message on GenForum for my Wagner/Troop family and email address is not valid...thought I could track him down knowing where he lived or worked. Thanks again, will check out information you sent. Marie

Marie, There is an internet service named burgoyne.com which seems to be pretty much nationwide. Could this be what you're looking for? Subscribers to this service would have an email extension of @burgoyne.com. You can check it out at www.burgoyne.com. Hope this helps. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: <BSKTBTQUE@aol.com> To: <PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 11:40 AM Subject: [PALANCAS] email extension help > Hi > > Looking for area that would have or have had an email extension of > @burgoyn.com. > > Hope some one recognizes extension. > > Thank you > Marie > > > ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== > When replying to the list change the subject line if you change the subject. > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/410 - Release Date: 8/5/2006 > >