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    1. [PALANCAS] Inscriptions and Location of Ellmaker/Kurtz Graveyard, Earl Township
    2. Adam Boyd
    3. The following is transcribed from William Frederic Worner, "Kurtz Graveyard, Earl Township," Worner Collection, Lancaster County Historical Society, Lancaster, Pennsylvania, volume 1, number 19, pages 128-133. It is also posted at http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&GSln=ellmaker&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=in&GSst=40&GScntry=4&GSob=n&CRid=2285937&pt=Ellmaker%2FKurtz%20Graveyard& --------- Inscriptions: Hannah K., wife of John Binkley. Died April 26, 1837. Aged 46 years, 10 months and 3 days. Anthony Ellmaker. Died April 21, 1817. Aged 88 years. Catharine Ellmaker. Died February 26, 1880, in the 97th year of her age. Clara, daughter of George and Mary Ellmaker. Born May 5, 1807; died April 3, 1868. Aged 60 years, 10 months and 29 days. Elizabeth Ellmaker. Died October 14, 1870. Aged 88 years. Elizabeth, wife of Anthony Ellmaker. Died October 12, 1812. Aged 75 years. Elmira, daughter of Anthony and Elizabeth Ellmaker. Aged 5 years. Isaac N. Ellmaker. Died January 4, 1856. Aged 39 years. Leonard Ellmaker. Died in the 62nd year of his age. Mary, wife of George Ellmaker. Died December 28, 1863. Aged 77 years. Samuel Ellmaker. Died in the 18th year of his age. Maggie L., daughter of A. B. and B. A. Hoar. Died August 29, 1868. Aged 2 years, 4 months and 1 day. Samuel N., son of A. B. and B. A. Hoar. Died July 25, 1862. Aged 1 year, 1 month and 28 days. Barbara, wife of Samuel Kurtz. Died April 17, 1862. Aged 90 years, 1 month and 16 days. Cora E., daughter of Abram R. and Lydia Kurtz. Died April 19, 1861. Aged 2 years and 5 months. Ira M., son of Abram R. and Lydia Kurtz. Died April 25, 1867. Aged 1 year, 10 months and 17 days. Isaac Kurtz. Died September 6, 1798. Aged 3 years, 9 months and 6 days. [Epitaph translated from the German.] Leah, wife of Samuel Kurtz. Born November 6, 1809; died January 15, 1881. Aged 71 years, 2 months and 9 days. Levi M., son of Martin W. and Catharine A. Kurtz. Died September 25, 1855. Aged 3 months and 25 days. Samuel Kurtz. Died August 16, 1835. Aged 64 years, 3 [?] months and 15 days. [Epitaph translated from the German.] Samuel Kurtz. Died November 19, 1860. Aged 50 years, 2 months, and 22 days. Susan, daughter of Samuel and Leah Kurtz. Died November 29, 1861. Aged 20 years, 5 months and 2 days. ---------- Description: The Kurtz family graveyard is on the farm of Harrison E. Kling in Earl township, about two miles east of Rowland's Reformed church [Latitude: 40.062858, Longitude: -76.074668]. The graveyard, 30 by 30 feet, is surrounded by a stone wall [since removed], four feet high, with a cement coping, but no entrance. (Obviously the coffins had to be lifted over the wall). The graveyard, which is about 600 feet north of "Peter's Road," receives no attention whatsoever and, naturally, is in a sadly neglected state. A wild cherry and several locust trees are growing in the enclosures, as well as blackberry brambles and weeds in profusion. At the time of our visit, April 27, 1935, there were twenty- two head stones and seventeen foot stones in position.

    12/13/2008 08:06:08
    1. [PALANCAS] Inscriptions and Location of Ellmaker Graveyard, Earl Township
    2. Adam Boyd
    3. The following is transcribed from William Frederic Worner, "Ellmaker Graveyard, Earl Township," Worner Collection, Lancaster County Historical Society, Lancaster, Pennsylvania, volume 1, number 20, pages 134-138. It is also posted at http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&GScid=2285996&GRid=32151740&CRid=2285996& --------- Inscriptions: Amos, son of Esaias E. and Sarah Ellmaker. Born August 3, 1838; died June 5, 1878. Elias, second son of Leonard and Anna Margaret Ellmaker. Born on the farm in 1732; died December 10, 1756, from wounds received at Braddock's defeat, July 3, 1755. Elizabeth, wife of Nathaniel Ellmaker. Died March 2, 1836, in the 81st year of her age. Esaias E. Ellmaker. Born June 19, 1802; died November 27, 1867. Aged 65 years, 5 months and 8 days. Harriet, daughter of Levi and Hannah Ellmaker. Born March 17, 1819; died September 2, 1823. Leonard Ellmaker. Born in 1697 in Nuremberg, Germany. Married and came to Pennsylvania in 1726. Died in 1782. Levi, son of Esaias E. and Sarah W. Ellmaker. Born November 18, 1834; died July 17, 1869. Mary, daughter of Nathaniel and Elizabeth Ellmaker. Born March 30, 1783; died September 30, 1798. Nathaniel Ellmaker. Born December 1, 1751; died April 24, 1837. Aged 85 years, 4 months and 23 days. Sarah, wife of Esaias E. Ellmaker and daughter of Dr. John Watson of Donegal. Born May 18, 1802; died October 10, 1886. Aged 84 years, 4 months and 22 days. Anna Margaret Hornberger, wife of Leonard Ellmaker. Born in 1703. Married and came to Pennsylvania in 1726. She was born in Frankendal, Germany. Died in 1779. ---------- Description: The Ellmaker family graveyard is on the farm of Chester A. Mentzer in Earl township, about two miles east of Rowland's Reformed church, and approximately 700 feet north of "Peter's Road," as the highway was called in olden times [Latitude: 40.061088, Longitude: -76.067153]. The graveyard, 30 by 35 feet, is enclosed by a stone wall, four feet high, encased in concrete, with a shingle coping. There is no entrance to the enclosure. Outside the graveyard is a large cedar tree, probably no less than 150 years old. It is doubtful if there is anywhere in Lancaster county a burying ground that presents a more quaint and venerable appearance than this one. The location is about 150 feet from the barn. The walls are whitewashed, and the shingle coping which comes to a point in the middle of the wall, is designed to shed the water like the roof of a house. The venerable cedar tree around the ancient farm house, together with the old barn and out buildings, and the near-by neglected resting place of the dreamless sleepers, all give special emphasis to the beautiful thought and prayer of Henry Francis Lyte, in his matchless hymn, "Abide with Me" "Swift to its close ebbs out life's little day; Earth's joys grow dim, its glories fade away; Change and decay in all around I see; O Thou who changest not, abide with me." It is unfortunate that a graveyard with an appearance so venerable, and which contains the mortal remains of a soldier, Elias Ellmaker, who participated in Braddock's ill-fated expedition, and who died December 10, 1756, from the effects of wounds received in that campaign, should be so neglected: The grass needs to be trimmed, the weeds cut, and the pile of boards in the corner removed to another place of storage. On April 27, 1935, the time of our visit, there were eleven head stones in position. One head stone was broken in half.

    12/13/2008 07:57:02
    1. Re: [PALANCAS] Christ Episcopal Church Cemetery
    2. Keith McKain
    3. Location is correct -- Here is what Rineer said in Churches and Cemeteries of Lancaster County, Pennsylvania - A Complete Guide: HISTORY: Former site of Christ Episcopal Church 1818-1937. 1818 - Congregation organized out of St. John's Church, Compass, and first stone church built. 1841 - Congregation chartered by Lancaster County courts. 1877 - Brick church built replacing stone building. 1937 - Last services held in church. 1980 - Church building badly damaged in windstorm and was removed. RECORD LOCATIONS: Church Records for Christ Protestant Church, 1828-1879, including baptisms, confirmations, communicants, and marriages: Original records are in possession of St. James' Episcopal Church, Lancaster. Church records, 1828-1850, are included in a volume of the records of St. John's Episcopal Church, Compass, Chester County. Microfilm copy at LCHS Cemetery started 1818. Gravestone Inscriptions: Gerberich 2:2:33; Worner 7 (1935); LMHS LCHS - Lancaster County Historical Society LMHS - Lancaster Mennonite Historical Society Keith Maria Campbell wrote: Yes, that is the location of the Christ Episcopal Cemetery. It is surrounded by an Amish farm. The church building was damaged in 1980 and is no longer there. The cemetery is fenced and well maintained. On Dec 13, 2008, at 11:46 AM, Adam Boyd wrote: Does anyone know if the location in the link below is the Christ Episcopal Church Cemetery? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [1][email protected] web.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the b ody of the message -- Keith A. McKain McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 - # Mc17936 Website: [2]http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 Email: [3][email protected] References 1. mailto:[email protected] 2. http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 3. mailto:[email protected]

    12/13/2008 07:52:23
    1. Re: [PALANCAS] Christ Episcopal Church Cemetery
    2. Maria Campbell
    3. Yes, that is the location of the Christ Episcopal Cemetery. It is surrounded by an Amish farm. The church building was damaged in 1980 and is no longer there. The cemetery is fenced and well maintained. On Dec 13, 2008, at 11:46 AM, Adam Boyd wrote: > Does anyone know if the location in the link below is the Christ > Episcopal > Church Cemetery?

    12/13/2008 05:36:43
    1. Re: [PALANCAS] Will Do LOOKUPS
    2. Bobbie Welty
    3. Please look for the Ritter family. Thank you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:00 PM Subject: [PALANCAS] Will Do LOOKUPS > Hi Everyone, > > I have two books for Lancaster County from which I will do lookups. > > The first is "Marriages and Deaths from the Newspapers of Lancaster County > Pennsylvania, 1831-1840". > The newspapers from which the articles are taken are the - > Lancaster Examiner: 1831 - Apr 3, 1834; Apr 20, 1837 - 1840; > Lancaster Journal: Jan 14, 1831 - Jun 27, 1834; May 12, 1837, Jun 2, > 1837, Dec 1, 1837; > Lancaster Union: Apr 6, 1835 - Mar 17, 1840; > Bethania Palladium: Jul 27, 1832 - Oct 19, 1834; > Lancaster Intelligencer: Jun 12, 1838 - Nov 12, 1839; > Columbia Spy: 1831 - May 11, 1833 (scattered) > Lancaster Union: May 28, 1834 - Mar 31, 1835; > Anti-Masonic Herald: Nov 6, 1832; > Lancaster Examiner & Herald: a few entries from 1835, 1839 & 1840 > Standard of Liberty & Lancaster County Democrat: Sep 23, 1831 > > The second is "An Index to the Will Books and Intestate Records of > Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, 1729-1850". > This gives the Name, Year, Book, Volumn & Page. > According to the book "Typed or photostatic copies of Wills may be > obtained by writing to the Office of the Register of Wills." > Also - "The Wills of those persons who died in this region prior to the > erection of Lancaster County (May 10, 1729) are registered in the Chester > County Court House at West Chester, the County Seat since September 25, > 1786, where they were removed from Old Chester. There are no Orphans > Court records prior to 1740." > > Janie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/13/2008 03:01:01
    1. [PALANCAS] Lookups
    2. Pam
    3. Thank you so much for your very kind offer - I am looking for info on the following families: Russell, Sprott/Sprout, Woodburn, Mays/Mayes, and Pollock - they are all inter-connected. Thank you again

    12/13/2008 01:53:33
    1. [PALANCAS] Christ Episcopal Church Cemetery
    2. Adam Boyd
    3. Does anyone know if the location in the link below is the Christ Episcopal Church Cemetery? http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=40.039382,-76.088637&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=36.231745,48.076172&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=16&g=40.039382,-76.088637&iwloc=addr

    12/13/2008 01:46:05
    1. [PALANCAS] Will do lookups
    2. Jesse
    3. Janie can you do a lookuo on McWhorter. Ferrier, Marlin families. thankyou Jesse

    12/13/2008 01:31:46
    1. [PALANCAS] Abraham Beam and Jacob Beam
    2. MFP
    3. Is any listmember researching either Abraham Beam or his son, Jacob, who were in Bart Twp., Lancaster County? Thanks. Mag -- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. Thomas Jefferson

    12/13/2008 12:17:07
    1. [PALANCAS] Sharp Graveyard, Leacock Township
    2. Adam Boyd
    3. I added William F. Worner's transcriptions of the Sharp Graveyard (a.k.a Lightner/Sharp Graveyard) to www.findagrave.com. and There are ten inscriptions transcribed by Worner.

    12/12/2008 04:27:58
    1. Re: [PALANCAS] Will Do LOOKUPS -LANCASTER CO. REGISTER OF WILLS
    2. Janie
    3. Hi Toni, I'm not in the Lancaster area either :-) According to the book "Typed or photostatic copies of Wills may be obtained by writing to the Office of the Register of Wills." Here is the website for Lancaster County Register of Wills - http://www.co.lancaster.pa.us/lanco/cwp/view.asp?a=562&Q=262545 You should be able to get some information from that - there is an email address for contact, too and perhaps they could tell you the cost of copying the Wills......or at least direct you to the proper person. Janie Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:37:46 -0800 (PST) From: Toni Hackenberger <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PALANCAS] Will Do LOOKUPS - HALDEMAN, HACKENBERGER To: [email protected], Janie <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Janie, How do we go about getting the transcriptions of the wills? I live in MO so Lancaster is not in my immediate reach. I would be interested in the two HACKENBERGER wills you noted. ? Thanks so much for your efforts - especially at this busy time of year. ? Toni H.

    12/12/2008 12:10:56
    1. [PALANCAS] PALANCAS] Will records - LILE & BAER/BARE/BEAR
    2. Janie
    3. Hi Yvonne, The only one I find in the Will Book is - Elizabeth Lile, 1787, Book E, Vol 1, Page 460 In the Intestate Records - Abraham Baer, 1805 (no Book, Vol or Page) Abraham Bare, 1836, Book H, Vol 1, Page 167 Abraham Bear, 1787 Abraham Bear, 1802 Abraham Bear, 1824, Book C, Vol 1, Page 2 Janie Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:29:01 -0500 From: [email protected] Subject: [PALANCAS] Will records To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thank you so very much for your kind offer. Could you please check the will book for Lyle or Lisle. I am also looking for an Abraham Barr (Bare, Bear, Bar, Baer) during that time period. Thank you so much.??? Yvonne

    12/12/2008 12:01:51
    1. Re: [PALANCAS] MARRIAGE BOOK INFO
    2. Vivian- Copyright is to protect ORIGINAL words you created. The marriage records were not created by the person who transcribed them so the facts included in the book CANNOT be copyrighted. The formatting and original wording may be copyrighted and there may be a compilation copyright that pertains to the work as a whole but the facts, no matter how you slice them, cannot be copyrighted. Joan In a message dated 12/12/2008 3:22:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I maybe wrong but arent' marriages public record and can't be copyrighted? now i understand that the other words that he/she uses can be copyrighted. or are they copyrighted. just was curious about the copyright. it is a tricky subject. Vivian

    12/12/2008 10:42:06
    1. Re: [PALANCAS] Will do Lookups: LANDIS folks
    2. Diana Quinones
    3. Janie.... I am looking for marriages/deaths or any news items of some of my LANDIS who lived in Caernarvon, East Earl area, and Blue Bell. David LANDIS (c1790-1800) m Catharine ?unk? b.1800. She died 3/30/1853 in Caernarvon, but I don't have her maiden name. Buried at Bangor Episc. church, but I also could not find her grave there. He died mid 1830s.....was dec'd when his father's, (Henry LANDIS) estate probated in 4/1836. they would have married c1820s..... Would there be anything for his father Henry LANDIS? His wife was Maria HIGH. She died 1831. I know they are buried at Zimmerman/Lichty cemetery as I found them and posted photos on the Lanc Co genweb archive board. A half-brother of Henry, Jacob LANDIS, lived in Lanc Co also. 'He joined farms with Gen Winfield Scott in Landisville. In abt 1837 he deeded his land to his brother Abraham and left for the West.' His wife was Catharine GARBER. He had 8 children and all born in Lanc Co. - Mary, Abraham, Frederick, Hannah, Anna, Catharine, Jacob and Barbara bet 1810-1823. Most of them died in Ohio. Would there be anything about Jacob LANDIS leaving the area? (This was in one of the Landis Reunion reports - the 33rd.) Would there be any news items early enough to cover late 1830s for any of these LANDISes? Thank you so much for volunteering lookups from your 2 books. Diana in Pelham AL [email protected]

    12/12/2008 10:29:20
    1. Re: [PALANCAS] Will Do LOOKUPS- PUBLISHER FOR BOOKS
    2. Janie
    3. Hi Jan, The "Marriages and Deaths from the Newspapers of Lancaster County Pennsylvania, 1831-1840" is published by Heritage Books, Inc. ISBN 978-1-58549-120-9 You can find this book at amazon.com, new & used The "An Index to the Will Books and Intestate Records of Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, 1729-1850" is published by the Genealogical Publishing Co, Inc. ISBN 0-8063-0535-5 You can also find this book at amazon.com, new & used Janie Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:49:16 -0600 From: "Jan Sanford" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PALANCAS] Will Do LOOKUPS To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Janie... Can you please tell us who is the company that published these books ?? I would sure like to have them in my personal library.... barring an unforseen horrible cost for them..... sure would be a good "holiday hint" for my husband & children... Thanks Loads, Jan

    12/12/2008 09:59:56
    1. Re: [PALANCAS] Will Do LOOKUPS- CLARK/FRY(E)
    2. Janie
    3. Sorry, Tom, but I don't find either of your names in the book. Janie Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:25:21 -0800 From: "Tom Wurth" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PALANCAS] Will Do LOOKUPS , request for To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello Jamie, Thank you so very much for taking the time to do these lookups. Could look and see if there is marriage entry for Abias (Tobias) Clark and Hanna Frye (Could be another given name) around 1830, Mt Joy Township. My great- grandmother death Certificate only lists the last name as Fry. Thanks again Tom Wurth

    12/12/2008 09:47:27
    1. Re: [PALANCAS] MARRIAGE BOOK INFO
    2. My understand is that the data can't be copyrighted, but the presentation can be. To take occasional entries out of a book to share would be one thing, but to lift a lot of information from the book would be something else again. And while I'm all for sharing information, if there are too many requests at one time, to post all of the answers on the list might border on copyright infringement--but to answer the question off-line to an individual might not be. Legalities can be funny things, and a lot of it would depend on whether the author and/or the publisher wanted to pursue it. Karen In a message dated 12/12/2008 2:22:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I maybe wrong but arent' marriages public record and can't be copyrighted? now i understand that the other words that he/she uses can be copyrighted. or are they copyrighted. just was curious about the copyright. it is a tricky subject. Vivian ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010)

    12/12/2008 09:41:12
    1. [PALANCAS] Will records
    2. Thank you so very much for your kind offer. Could you please check the will book for Lyle or Lisle. I am also looking for an Abraham Barr (Bare, Bear, Bar, Baer) during that time period. Thank you so much.??? Yvonne

    12/12/2008 09:29:01
    1. Re: [PALANCAS] MARRIAGE BOOK INFO
    2. I believe the owner of a book may provide information that is in the book to anyone that owner wants to. You just cannot reproduce (except for one's only usage) the copyrighted book or republish it. In a message dated 12/12/2008 3:22:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I maybe wrong but aren't' marriages public record and can't be copyrighted? now I understand that the other words that he/she uses can be copyrighted. or are they copyrighted. Just was curious about the copyright. It is a tricky subject. Vivian ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010)

    12/12/2008 08:54:13
    1. Re: [PALANCAS] Will Do LOOKUPS - HALDEMAN, HACKENBERGER
    2. elizabeth
    3. ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC!!!! Thank you sooooooo much for all this information!!!! It will be a HUGE step forward in sorting out all these folks! And there are some mentioned that I am not familiar with too. Elizabeth =================================================== On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Janie <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Elizabeth, > > In the Will Book, I find the following for HALDEMAN - > Henry Haldeman, 1849, Book U, Vol1, Page 688 > Jacob Haldeman, 1783, Book D, Vol 1, Page 307 > John Haldeman, 1832, Book Q, Vol 1, Page 259 > John B. Haldeman, 1836, Book R, Vol 1, Page 284 > Peter Haldeman, 1790, Book F, Vol 1, Page 233 > > In the Intestate records, I find the following for HALDEMAN- > Christian Haldeman, 1758 > Christian Haldeman, 1830, Book E, Vol 1, Page 183 > Christian Haldeman, 1841, Book K, Vol 1, Page 83 > Christopher Haldeman, Jr., 1829, Book E, Vol 1, Page 133 > Jacob, Haldeman, 1764 > Jacob, Haldeman, 1821, Book A, Vol 1, Page 97 > Jacob Haldeman, 1837, Book H, Vol 1, Page 219 > John Haldeman, 1774 > John B. Haldeman, 1837, Book H, Vol 1, Page 243 > Rudolph Haldeman, 1843, Book L, Vol 1, Page 93 > Samuel Haldeman, 1841, Book K, Vol 1, Page 108 > Christian Halderman, 1782 > > In the Will book, I find the following for HACKENBERGER - > George Hackenberger, 1831, Book Q, Vol 1, Page 3 > > In Intestate records, I find the following for HACKENBERGER - > John Hackenberger, 1835, Book H, Vol 1, Page 20 > > Nothing in the Will book for Wolf/etc. > > Nothing in the Will book for Zeigler/etc. > > Janie > > > Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:15:21 -0500 > From: elizabeth <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PALANCAS] Will Do LOOKUPS > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > This is a very kind offer. Thank you so much! > > I am searching for the following: > > 1. HALDEMAN / HALDIMAN / HALDAMAN /etc. [there were several given names in > the area in the time period of your books, all seem to be related and I am > researching all of them in attempting to sort out the families. I don't > think there were too many in this early time period.] > > 2. HACKENBERGER / HACHENBERGER / any other similar spelling. > > 3. WOLF / WOLFF / etc., Mathias/Matheus/Matts/Mathus/etc. b. mid-1700's > > 4. ZEIGLER / ZIEGLER / ZEEGLER / ZEGELER SIGLAR / etc., Martin b. 1779 > > Thank you again, > Elizabeth > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    12/12/2008 08:49:43