Hi-I am trying to locate the parents of George Burkholder. He was born abt.1783-in PA. I have seen undocumented writings that it was in Lancaster Co. and that he was a son of Christian and Anna(Groff) Burkholder. He died 1864 in Lycoming Co. Does anyone know of this man and if in fact he was a son of C & A Burkholder? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Margie

Hi Karl,      I looked into this for an article I did for CAHS on the Urban family for out Conestoga Center Museum display a few years ago but couldn't find an exact date of birth for him.  I didn't check church records because the family were Methodists and I don't believe their church records go back that far.  I don't know where he is buried but you might check the historical society.  His parents are buried at Woodward Hill so he could be there.  I should get an obit on him for our web page.                                                                                                         Jim   ________________________________ From: Karl Moyer <[email protected]> To: Lancaster County-L <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 10:37:40 PM Subject: [PALANCAS] C. Emlen Urban Can anyone please inform me of two details regarding early 20th-century Lancaster architect. C. Emlan Urban: 1.  the month and day of his birht in 1863 in Conestoga township? 2.  his burial place     Thanks for your help.                 Dr. Karl E. Moyer         Lancaster PA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone please inform me of two details regarding early 20th-century Lancaster architect. C. Emlan Urban: 1. the month and day of his birht in 1863 in Conestoga township? 2. his burial place Thanks for your help. Dr. Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA

Could Be referring to 'pounds' as in British Sterling currency at that time And paper didn't have typesetters keystroke C1994-2009 Mimi Taylor Generation Gap SpecialistT for HALL-PRATT-TAYLOR + PIERCE "From Pierce-Arrows 2 Straight Arrows"C -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Barbara Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PALANCAS] Abe Barr Sr and Sheriff's sale notices Susan I realized that after I sent the note *L* I have no idea in the world what the asterisks mean then. Susan Y. Clawson wrote: > Thanks, Barbara and Richard, for throwing light on the subject of > insolvencies in 1825. > > I don't think the asterisks refer to spelling, since they appeared in the > newspaper notice itself, not in a transcription. I was rather hoping they > would indicate something like an estate instead of a living creditor. Any > chance of that? > > Thanks for throwing more light on the nature of the newspaper notices. > > Susan > > > > > On 2/28/09 3:01 AM, "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Sheriff sales were pretty common, then as they are getting to be today. And >> they were pretty routinely reported in the newspapers at the time of year when >> the delinquent property taxes were processed. I think they were often due to >> unpaid / delinquent property taxes, but if someone had other personal debts an >> unpaid creditor or group of creditors might get the sheriff to initiate >> foreclosure on a debtor to get some compensation out of their unpaid debt. >> Hence, and correct me if I'm wrong, but if someone appears in the sheriff's >> sale list they could have been without real property too, i.e. a renter or >> roomer in a relative's home. >> >> Richard >> -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 2133 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Thanks, Barbara and Richard, for throwing light on the subject of insolvencies in 1825. I don't think the asterisks refer to spelling, since they appeared in the newspaper notice itself, not in a transcription. I was rather hoping they would indicate something like an estate instead of a living creditor. Any chance of that? Thanks for throwing more light on the nature of the newspaper notices. Susan On 2/28/09 3:01 AM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > Sheriff sales were pretty common, then as they are getting to be today. And > they were pretty routinely reported in the newspapers at the time of year when > the delinquent property taxes were processed. I think they were often due to > unpaid / delinquent property taxes, but if someone had other personal debts an > unpaid creditor or group of creditors might get the sheriff to initiate > foreclosure on a debtor to get some compensation out of their unpaid debt. > Hence, and correct me if I'm wrong, but if someone appears in the sheriff's > sale list they could have been without real property too, i.e. a renter or > roomer in a relative's home. > > Richard

Susan I realized that after I sent the note *L* I have no idea in the world what the asterisks mean then. Susan Y. Clawson wrote: > Thanks, Barbara and Richard, for throwing light on the subject of > insolvencies in 1825. > > I don't think the asterisks refer to spelling, since they appeared in the > newspaper notice itself, not in a transcription. I was rather hoping they > would indicate something like an estate instead of a living creditor. Any > chance of that? > > Thanks for throwing more light on the nature of the newspaper notices. > > Susan > > > > > On 2/28/09 3:01 AM, "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Sheriff sales were pretty common, then as they are getting to be today. And >> they were pretty routinely reported in the newspapers at the time of year when >> the delinquent property taxes were processed. I think they were often due to >> unpaid / delinquent property taxes, but if someone had other personal debts an >> unpaid creditor or group of creditors might get the sheriff to initiate >> foreclosure on a debtor to get some compensation out of their unpaid debt. >> Hence, and correct me if I'm wrong, but if someone appears in the sheriff's >> sale list they could have been without real property too, i.e. a renter or >> roomer in a relative's home. >> >> Richard >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.5/1979 - Release Date: 03/01/09 17:46:00 > >

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Hello Fellow Listers: The Perry Historians is hosting a "van tour" of the area of Perry County from Rope Ferry to Davey Ogle's Grave on Saturday, March 28, 2009. This is the first of our "On the Trail of Perry County History". We'll be meeting at the East Parking Lot (near the stage/amphitheater) at Little Buffalo State Park at 8:00 a.m.. After boarding we will be visiting various historic sites from Millerstown to the Susquenita High School.... like remnants of a few canal locks, the Caroline Furnace, just to name a few. We'll be eating lunch at the Ranch House Restaurant and that will be a buffet of sandwich makings, soups, salad, desert and beverages. Limited seating available. The price for the day's events is $30 per person - this includes the cost for the transportation and the meal. Reservations and payment needs to be to The Perry Historians by Saturday, March 8th. For more information contact Donna Heller Zinn at [email protected]

The Perry Historians is hosting its annual FREE Beginner Genealogical Workshop at the Harry Lenig Library outside of New Bloomfield, Perry Co., PA. on Saturday, March 7, 2009 from 9:00 a.m. until 5:00 p.m.. We're also going to be hosting a FREE Advanced Genealogical Workshop at the library on Saturday, April 4th also from 9:00 a.m. until 5:00 p.m.. Both of these workshops are FREE and there will probably be plenty of time after the workshop to utilize the records and resources in our library for researching your families. Please note that on both days, we will take a lunch break - with lunch on your own. There are several restaurants in the area or you may brown-bag-it. We would just ask that you let us know if you are planning on attending so that we may make sure we have enough handout copies available - if we use them. You may contact me, if you have questions or would like to be included in the count. Donna Heller Zinn [email protected]

Chris, I have a Jacob Rudy , born in Leacock Township, married to a Susanna Roland, for which I literally have no information.?? Could your Jacob be the one that I am researching? Nancy -----Original Message----- From: chris leonard <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 8:32 pm Subject: [PALANCAS] RUDY family of Upper Leacock Anyone researching this family from Stumptown which includes Jacob, his son Samuel (who died relatively young), and Samuel's son Abraham L. who was briefly in an orphanage after his father's death until his mother remarried? They lived on land once owned by David Landis, came there between 1864 and 1875. Buried I believe in Landis Mennonite Cemetery? Specifically wondering if there was Native American blood in the line, and where they lived prior to coming to the Stumptown area. There are lots of Landises and Rudys in Manheim Township too. Also wondering if anyone knows of a genealogist with special expertise in Native American roots in Lancaster County. Thanks! Chris Knowledge is power, and while the truth may be spurious and slippery and messy and deep, the pursuit of it is just about the only thing we have left. Give that up, and all that's left is spiritual numbness, emotional stasis and death. ~Mark Morford, San Francisco Chronicle ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Susan: Sheriff sales were pretty common, then as they are getting to be?today.? And they were pretty routinely repoted in the newspapers at the time of year when the delinquent property taxes were processed.? I think they were often due to unpaid / delinquent property taxes, but if someone had other personal debts an unpaid creditor or group of creditors might get the sheriff to initiate? foreclosure on a debtor to get some compensation out of their unpaid debt.? Hence, and correct me if I'm wrong, but if someone appears in the sheriff's sale list they could have been without real property too, i.e. a renter or roomer in a relative's home. Richard

Anyone researching this family from Stumptown which includes Jacob, his son Samuel (who died relatively young), and Samuel's son Abraham L. who was briefly in an orphanage after his father's death until his mother remarried? They lived on land once owned by David Landis, came there between 1864 and 1875. Buried I believe in Landis Mennonite Cemetery? Specifically wondering if there was Native American blood in the line, and where they lived prior to coming to the Stumptown area. There are lots of Landises and Rudys in Manheim Township too. Also wondering if anyone knows of a genealogist with special expertise in Native American roots in Lancaster County. Thanks! Chris Knowledge is power, and while the truth may be spurious and slippery and messy and deep, the pursuit of it is just about the only thing we have left. Give that up, and all that's left is spiritual numbness, emotional stasis and death. ~Mark Morford, San Francisco Chronicle

oops. Frances was born 1787. > Trying to find the parents of Frances Jane (Fanny) Shank b York Co 1878. > She > married James Dougherty 1808 in PA. They moved west to Greene Co PA and > then > to Wayne Co Indiana. She had a brother Joseph. Any help appreciated. > Suzanne > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1974 - Release Date: 02/26/09 14:51:00

Trying to find the parents of Frances Jane (Fanny) Shank b York Co 1878. She married James Dougherty 1808 in PA. They moved west to Greene Co PA and then to Wayne Co Indiana. She had a brother Joseph. Any help appreciated. Suzanne

On Feb 25, 2009, at 3:01 AM, [email protected] wrote: > do you have info on Jacob DONNER and Wife Anna LANDIS? Did they > live in Donegal, Lancaster Co? Who was his second wife? Do you > have more on them? > > Did Jacob have a son George b 2/1752 who went to Rowan Co NC, and > then to Sangamon Co IL where he died in 6/27/1844 age 92y4m? Have no proof that Jacob DONNER / TANNER / DOWNER of Lampeter Twp, Lancaster Co PA married neighbor-girl Anna LANDIS, dau of Felix and Rosanna LANDIS, but other researchers say so without giving sources. Since Jacob was b. 1698 in Rottenacker, west of Ulm on the Donau (per canadian DONNER website), Anna LANDIS was b. abt 1705. No one says when she died. He remarried Elisabeth WOLSCHLEGEL / WELESLEGLE of Manheim Tp Lancaster Co PA before January 1753 when they show in a deed buying part of her father's land in Manheim Twp (Deed Book C-508). Elisabeth's parents Johannes WOLSCHLAGER and wife Margaretha have 4 children recorded in church book of Lambsheim in the Palatinate; they were said to live in Weisenheim am Sand, where the church book has serious gaps. Elisabeth must have immigrated with them on the ship Globe in 1723. Elisabeth's mother Anna WELESLEGEL wrote her will 9 July 1761, probated 7 Jan 1772; she named one 'child': Jacob DOWNER, plus 7 grandchildren named DOWNER -- Jacob, Catharine, John, Joseph, Susanna, Jonathan, and Jonas. This suggests that Elisabeth was already dead. There is no way of knowing how many of Jacob DONNER's children were born to his first wife, Anna LANDIS, vs. his 2nd wife, Elisabeth WOLSCHLEGEL. If George DONNER was b. Feb 1752, he could have been a son of the Jacob who was son of Jacob.

Here is a newspaper article showing as early as 25 November 1825 that Abraham Barr Sr. (and others) were applying for relief from creditors. The number of Sheriff's sales in the paper at this time makes me wonder if there was a money panic going on. Can anyone shed any light? I also don't know what the asterisk means. The original is available on the Lancaster County Digitization Project: http://lcdp.wetpaint.com/ Thanks, Susan TRANSCRIPTION: County of Lancaster, Nov. 25, 1825. TAKE NOTICE, that we, the subscribers, have applied to the Judges of the court of Common Pleas in and for the county of Lancaster, for the benefit of the several acts of insolvency of the commonwealth of Pennsylvania, and they have appointed Monday, the 19th day of December, 1825, at 10 o'clock in the forenoon, to hear us and our creditors, at the court house in the city of Lancaster, where you may attend. George C. Strein, Thomas Wilson,* john Hogendoebler, Adam McConnill, John Ely,* David Heyd, Abraham Barr, senr.* Abraham Forney, William Schreiner, Ashbel Matthias, Jacob Hull, Henry Slaymaker,* George House,* Samuel Cowic,* Abraham Smith.* Nov. 25 On 9 Dec 1825 the same advertisement appears but with a few more names: William Wood, William Wilson, Robert McGill, Thomas Spencer, Michael Lenig, Robert Reed,* Frederick Ricker,* Joseph Dungan, Joseph Myers,

I think the asterisk might mean that the spelling of the name is not certain? Susan Y. Clawson wrote: > Here is a newspaper article showing as early as 25 November 1825 that > Abraham Barr Sr. (and others) were applying for relief from creditors. The > number of Sheriff's sales in the paper at this time makes me wonder if there > was a money panic going on. Can anyone shed any light? I also don't know > what the asterisk means. The original is available on the Lancaster County > Digitization Project: > http://lcdp.wetpaint.com/ > Thanks, > Susan > > > > TRANSCRIPTION: > County of Lancaster, Nov. 25, 1825. > TAKE NOTICE, that we, the subscribers, have applied to the Judges of the > court of Common Pleas in and for the county of Lancaster, for the benefit of > the several acts of insolvency of the commonwealth of Pennsylvania, and they > have appointed Monday, the 19th day of December, 1825, at 10 o'clock in the > forenoon, to hear us and our creditors, at the court house in the city of > Lancaster, where you may attend. > George C. Strein, > Thomas Wilson,* > john Hogendoebler, > Adam McConnill, > John Ely,* > David Heyd, > Abraham Barr, senr.* > Abraham Forney, > William Schreiner, > Ashbel Matthias, > Jacob Hull, > Henry Slaymaker,* > George House,* > Samuel Cowic,* > Abraham Smith.* > > Nov. 25 > > > On 9 Dec 1825 the same advertisement appears but with a few more names: > William Wood, > William Wilson, > Robert McGill, > Thomas Spencer, > Michael Lenig, > Robert Reed,* > Frederick Ricker,* > Joseph Dungan, > Joseph Myers, > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1973 - Release Date: 02/26/09 07:03:00 > >

Jan - do you have info on Jacob DONNER and Wife Anna LANDIS? Did they live in Donegal, Lancaster Co? Who was his second wife? Do you have more on them? Did Jacob have a son George b 2/1752 who went to Rowan Co NC, and then to Sangamon Co IL where he died in 6/27/1844 age 92y4m? Diana in AL [email protected] > Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 > From: JRBinkley > Subject: [PALANCAS] Felix & Fronica LANDIS & Abraham MYERS & BINKLEY & >> > Felix LANDIS in his 1737 will [he died 1739] excluded his son in law > Abraham MYERS from having control of his wife Fronica's (Felix's > youngest daughter's) inheritance. Well, court evidence about Abraham > MYERS explains it -- he was evidently dishonest, and there was later > trouble between him and Felix Jr., too. Taken from a summary of > actions of the Lancaster PA Quarter Sessions court edited by Gary > Hawbaker: > > Quarter Sessions court of Lancaster County PA held on 1 May 1733 > shows Abraham MIERS and Jacob BARR give guarantees for the appearance > of Abraham MIERS. [etc. -- no details in the abstract] > Quarter Session court held 1 Feb 1736/37 shows Martin GRAFF > appearing and prosecuting Abram MIERS for stealing a horse. [etc.] > Those appearing in court to give evidence against MIERS were Jacob > STONER, Hans GRAFF, Peter GRAFF, and Benja. ASLEMAN. [etc.] > Abraham MIERS appears in his father-in-law Felix LANDIS?s will > written 29 Apr 1737, MIERS being paid off with 5 shillings to end all > claim he might make on LANDIS?s property. > Quarter Sessions court of Lancaster County on 4 Aug 1741 has a > note that Henry MOSSELMAN [judge?] decreed that ?Abraham MIER shall be > of good behavior to ffelix LANDUS [Jr.] and appear at ye next > Court.? [etc.] > > Tie-ins: Fronica was a sister of Barbara LANDIS who married John 'the > Mennonite' BINKLEY and of Anna LANDIS who m. Jacob DONNER (1st wife). > > JRB

Felix LANDIS in his 1737 will [he died 1739] excluded his son in law Abraham MYERS from having control of his wife Fronica's (Felix's youngest daughter's) inheritance. Well, court evidence about Abraham MYERS explains it -- he was evidently dishonest, and there was later trouble between him and Felix Jr., too. Taken from a summary of actions of the Lancaster PA Quarter Sessions court edited by Gary Hawbaker: Quarter Sessions court of Lancaster County PA held on 1 May 1733 shows Abraham MIERS and Jacob BARR give guarantees for the appearance of Abraham MIERS. [etc. -- no details in the abstract] Quarter Session court held 1 Feb 1736/37 shows Martin GRAFF appearing and prosecuting Abram MIERS for stealing a horse. [etc.] Those appearing in court to give evidence against MIERS were Jacob STONER, Hans GRAFF, Peter GRAFF, and Benja. ASLEMAN. [etc.] Abraham MIERS appears in his father-in-law Felix LANDIS’s will written 29 Apr 1737, MIERS being paid off with 5 shillings to end all claim he might make on LANDIS’s property. Quarter Sessions court of Lancaster County on 4 Aug 1741 has a note that Henry MOSSELMAN [judge?] decreed that “Abraham MIER shall be of good behavior to ffelix LANDUS [Jr.] and appear at ye next Court.” [etc.] Tie-ins: Fronica was a sister of Barbara LANDIS who married John 'the Mennonite' BINKLEY and of Anna LANDIS who m. Jacob DONNER (1st wife). JRB

The Lancaster Intelligencer: Wed. 7 Sept. 1870: Page 3: Deaths DIEHL.-On Sept. 6th, Susan [DIEHL], wife of Geo. DIEHL, in the 30th year of her age. The relatives and friends of the family are respectfully invited to attend the funeral from the residence of her husband, in Church street, near South Queen, on Thursday afternoon at 3 o'clock. BRADYCAMP.-On the 5th inst., in this city, Lewis BRADYCAMP, aged 55 years, 2 months and 20 days. TSHUDY.-On the 6th inst., Bernhard Martin [TSHUDY], son of Haydon H. and Emma J. TSHUDY, aged 10 months. HOFFMAN.-On the 30th inst.[sic], in this city, Phillip HOFFMAN, in the 26th year of his age. LONG.-On the 2d inst., in this city, Emma H. [LONG}, daughter of Peter H. and Henrietta C. LONG, of Philadelphia. FREW.-On the 1st inst., at Gordonville, Shaw FREW, Sr., in the 69th year of his age. ---------- The Lancaster Intelligencer: Wed. 14 Sept. 1870: Page 3: Deaths MOSS.-On the 8th inst., at Middletown, Grace Mary [MOSS], daughter of John A. and Mary C. MOSS, aged 2 years, 4 months and 8 days. BISHOP.-On the 6[?]th inst., at Christiana, Lancaster co., Mrs. Christiana BISHOP, in the 63d year of her age. KIEHL.-On the 9th inst., in this city, John George [KIEHL], infant son of Lewis and Margaretta KIEHL, aged 8[?] months and 13 days. SHAY.-On the 9th inst., in this city, Annie [SHAY], wife of Henry SHAY, in the 63d year of her age. STEVENS.-On the 9th inst., in this city, Mrs. Ann STEVENS, in the 59th year of her age. DIEHL.-On Sept. 6th, Susan [DIEHL], wife of Geo. DIEHL, in the 30th year of her age. HARTMAN.-At the residence of her father in Mount Joy Bor., after a lingering illness which she bore with Christian resignation, Mrs. Elizabeth [HARTMAN], wife of Mr. R. HARTMAN, in the 25th year of her age. ---------- The Lancaster Intelligencer: Wed. 21 Sept. 1870: Page 3: Deaths DOBBINS.-On the 1st[?] inst., at Octoraro, Lancaster county,of Diptheriae[sic], Nellie R. [DOBBINS], youngest child of Lemuel W. and Sallie H. DOBBINS, aged 1 year and 10 months. YACKLEY.-On the 16th inst., in this city, Charles Augustus [YACKLEY], son of H. T. and Susan YACKLEY, aged 6 months and 15 days. BARRY.-On the 20th[?] inst., in New F-----land[?], N. J., Michael Philip [BARRY], son of M. J. and Lizzie M. BARRY, aged 3 months. ---------- The Lancaster Intelligencer: Wed. 28 Sept. 1870: Page 3: Deaths FISHER.-On the 21st inst., in this city, Hannah Maria [FISHER], wife of Henry FISHER, in the 33d year of her age. TOWNSEND.-On the 27th inst., in this city, Willie W. [TOWNSEND], son of Robert A. and Elizabeth M. TOWNSEND, aged 1 year and 18 days. The relatives and friends of the family are respectfully invited to attend the funeral from the residence of his grandfather, John CONROY, in Hazel[?] street, on tomorrow, Wednesday afternoon at 1 o'clock. ---------- These and other Civil War era newspapers can be viewed online using the "Browse Archive" feature at: http://digitalnewspapers.libraries.psu.edu/