With the GREAT help from Lenora in Wisconsin, I have been able to find my one of my Great Grandaunt's daughters, Bertha TEICHMANN. Bertha married a Max PHILLIPS and had what looks like 8 children (per 1900 and 1920) census. Does anyone out there knows anything more? Here is a list of DOB,DOD and children. Max PhillipsDOB 1862 Scranton Pa, DOD Dec 29, 1908 Scranton Pa Bertha nee Teichmann DOB Nov 1867 (?Germany) Catherine (aka Katie) DOB March 1887 Charlotte (aka Lottie) DOB Nov 1889 Magdelena (aka Lena) DOB Dec 1892 Jacob DOB Nov 1894 Peter DOB Sept 1899 Bethra DOB abt 1902 John DOB abt 1905 Jane DOB abt 1908 Leo DOB abt 1909 In the years around 1905 - 1908 they all lived on a farm in the Elmhurst area. During the 1920 Census Bertha and her youngest children were living at 415 Alder St with a elder Catherine Phillips (age 78). Chris Hendrickson Melbourne, Fl Researching: AHLERS, DIGNAN, FUHRMANN, PETRI, SADLER, SILKENSTADT, STRATHMANN, TEICHMANN, VOGT, VON FINTEL, and ZORN http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/e/n/Christine--Hendrickson/