Hi Pat, The Gormley id is a 35 out of 37 marker match with my brother's DNA. My brother's DNA is a straight-line male descent. Only markers 455 and 449 are different. Marker 455=12 seems to be peculiar to the Manley/Munley/ Monnelly/Munnelly surname of NW County Mayo. 455 = 11 is more common to the NW Irish modal. Marker 449 is one of the faster mutating markers, so being off by one is not too unusual. For those who are interested. www.ysearch.org The id for Gormley is 8FB5K and the id for Manley is 9ZQQG. This is the closest match I have found so far to my brother's DNA results. It would be interesting, but difficult to trace either lineage much further because the records in Ireland are so sketchy. I do know that Walt has done some genealogy research on the Munley/Manley/ Monnelly/Munnelly surname from previous correspondence with him. Best regards, Marianne At 08:10 AM 8/30/2007 -0600, you wrote: >I have no information on any of these lines, but I do wonder about your >statement concerning the match of DNA. > >First, you do not state how many markers are matching. Remember, Y-DNA is a >straight line male DNA and is not affected by the mother's DNA. If it is a >perfect 37 out of 37 match, then both have the same ancestor at some fairly >recent point. As an example - I know of a case where there was a perfect 37 >out of 37 marker match for people of two different surnames. Family lore >stated that great-granny had an affair with someone of the other surname. >So the grandson was not fathered by the man whose surname he carried, but by >great-granny's lover. > >Just something to think about. > >Good luck with your search. > >Pat Duncan >GenNutLdn@msn.com > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Marianne Granoff" <granoff@zianet.com> >To: <palackaw@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 8:46 AM >Subject: Re: [PALACKAW] GORMAN, O'MALLEY, MCNALLY, REEDY, O'CONNOR, GERRITY, >CAVANAUGH, CASEY > > > > Hi Walt, > > > > We have corresponded previously regarding the > > Manley/Munley/Munnelly/Monnelly > > surname. Just a note to say that I have been wondering why my brother's > > DNA > > results at www.ysearch.org kept matching someone by the surname Gormley? > > I > > suspect that it may be your line that he is matching. > > > > Some of my ancestors did live in the Archbald area near Scranton, but I > > have > > not been able to establish many links there. I suspect DNA similarities > > go > > back to County Mayo, since my line appears to be from the Belmullet area. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Marianne Manley Granoff > > > > At 09:16 AM 8/30/2007 -0400, you wrote: > > > > > > > > >Looking for information/connections on the following families. Most of my > > >ancestors came from County Mayo primarily in the Westport area and first > > >settled in Luzerne/Lackawanna Counties of PA; primarily in the > > >Carbondale, Scranton > > >areas before moving on to places in New Jersey, New York, Wisconsin, > > >etc. > > >The Scranton area includes Minooka, Taylor, Old Forge and Dunmore > > >boroughs. > > > > > >1. Michael or Anthony GORMAN 1806-1846 married Mary MC NALLY 1810-1868 > > >they > > >lived in Westport Co Mayo. Michael/Anthony died in Ireland.. Mary MC > > >NALLY > > >GORMAN came to the US prior to 1850 and died in Carbondale, PA. She > > >came > > >with > > >her children Mary, Bridget, Hannah, Catherine and Walter GORMAN and > > >Bridget > > >daughter Hannah O'MALLEY > > > > > >2. Believe Bridget GORMAN m O'MALLEY in Ireland and he died prior to her > > >immigration. She came with her mother and GORMAN siblings and > > >daughter Hannah > > >O'MALLEY to Carbondale, PA. > > > > > >She married Michael O'CONNOR/CONNOR Bridget GORMAN O'MALLEY O'CONNOR > > >her > > >first marriage being to an O'MALLEY. Her daughter Hannah O'MALLEY m > > >John > > >REEDY/REIDY; after John REEDY died she married John P. COAR. From the > > >Hannah > > >O'MALLEY, REEDY, COAR branch we have HEALEY, CROSSIN, GRADY, WALSH. > > > > > >3 Mrs Mary GORMAN c 1824 first married James GERRITY/GERAGHTY and after > > >his > > >death she married James HAMMELL. . From this branch we have ADNEY, > > >CAFFERY/CAFFREY, WALTON, SULLIVAN, FLAHERTY, RUANE. > > > > > >4.. Catherine GORMAN m a Michael O'MALLEY. From this branch we have > > >KIRKWOOD, ATHERTON, MAGHRAN > > > > > >5 Walter GORMAN m Ann O'DONNELL from this branch we have > > >CAVANAGH/CAVANAUGH, > > >GORMLEY, GREAVY, ECKENRODE, DUFFY, MAHON. Monsignor Walter A. GORMAN > > > > > >6 Hannah GORMAN m John J. CASEY from this branch we have BRADY. > > > > > >I welcome any information, comments, suggestions. Please contact Walton > > >J. > > >SULLIVAN at _wsullivw@aol.com_ (mailto:wsullivw@aol.com) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new > > >AOL at > > >http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > > > > >------------------------------- > > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >PALACKAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > PALACKAW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >