In a message dated 1/27/2005 8:17:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Laurence I think it was Cherakee. I think I spelled it wrong. Thanks Sandy Sandy, Cherokee makes sense to me as I know they were early on in the New Jersey - Deleware river area. I suspect my LANCE people were married into some of these people but I also suspect I'll never be able to prove it. Laurence