Dear Wendi465 - did you find out how to access old mason records? My grandfather and all of his sons (including my dad) was a mason in Scranton and I would like to know more. Linda

--WebTV-Mail-2983-357 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Kathryn I hope you were able to connect with the Scranton Times. In the event you could not I sent you separately todays copy of the obituaries and PAUL BRINK is listed. In the obituaries, above one of the deceased names, you will find the word FUNERAL NOTICES - that will take you to more information on the deceased. Their was not any additional information on PAUL today and since tomorrow is Sunday, it may not appear until MONDAY but you might try it. I hope that you were able to connect. If you did not. Try SEARCH for www.scrantontimes.com. Jack --WebTV-Mail-2983-357 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from smtpin-101-4.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.29) by storefull-162.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 16:16:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by smtpin-101-4.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) id 3557FF9; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 16:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: olyphant@webtv.net Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by smtpin-101-4.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id 2230A183; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 16:16:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f5TN8cH19311; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 17:08:38 -0600 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 17:08:38 -0600 X-Original-Sender: edikat@earthlink.net Fri Jun 29 17:08:38 2001 Message-ID: <3B3D3463.DF192450@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 19:07:31 -0700 From: "Kathryn L. Costello" <edikat@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: PALACKAW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PA-LAC] Obit for Brink References: <4259-3B3CF29F-1771@storefull-162.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <nMCcIB.A.StE.2pQP7@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: PALACKAW-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: PALACKAW-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: PALACKAW-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <PALACKAW-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/9133 X-Loop: PALACKAW-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: PALACKAW-L-request@rootsweb.com X-PALACKAW-L-Web-Page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/index.html Jack, Thank you for the information. I didn't know that I could do that. Kay "J. J." wrote: > Kathryn: > > The obituary for Paul Brink was not in the morning edition of the > Scranton Times. You might try tomorrow. You can get the current > edition (and past editions) by logging on to: www.Scrantontimes.com > > Jack in San Diego > > ==== PALACKAW Mailing List ==== > Visit the Genealogical Research Society of Northeastern PA http://www.cfrobbins.com/grsnp/ > To unsubscribe: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/index.html#MailingList ==== PALACKAW Mailing List ==== Have you visited the Lackawanna County page lately? http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/ To unsubscribe: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/index.html#MailingList --WebTV-Mail-2983-357--

Anyone researching a McGurgan or Fickus family from Scranton? Their ancestors were Rosar family Lenora from Wisconsin

Iva, Yes CROWE is in my line. My granduncle Edward SULLIVAN 1892-1920 was married to Helen (Effie)CROWE 1893-??. They lived in Taylor and had at least 3 daughters Doris 1916, Helen 1918 and Edna 1920. After Edward died I think Effie married a GRIFFITH. Effie's parents were James and Jennie WILLIAMS CROWE. Thanks for responding to my posting. Regards, Walt

You are definitely right. I have copies of some of their records, and have been to the office searching for others. The first thing must be the filming of the records, to at least get something permanent. I don't know whether microfilm or microfisch is best, but something must be done and soon. There are always conflicting thoughts, Mary, but I think all researchers are united on one thing = preserve records and make them as accurate as possible. MCasey863@aol.com wrote: > Dear List, > > It might be better to start off with filming as the Cathedral Cemetery has > consistently stated that their records are very pool before 1930. > > In fact they usually have only the name of the person who bought the plot but > no listing of who's buried in them until 1930. > > Just a thought. There could be conflicting thoughts. Mary > > ==== PALACKAW Mailing List ==== > Visit RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative: http://www.rootsweb.com/ > To unsubscribe: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/index.html#MailingList

Dear List, It might be better to start off with filming as the Cathedral Cemetery has consistently stated that their records are very pool before 1930. In fact they usually have only the name of the person who bought the plot but no listing of who's buried in them until 1930. Just a thought. There could be conflicting thoughts. Mary

As to whether you record tombstones or go for the records, there is a big advantage to using the records, as you probably already know. When I looked for my family at Cathedral, I checked the records at the office first. They had a card that listed my grandfather, two great aunts, grandmother and my aunt, with their last address and date of burial. The date of burial helped me get several obituaries. Also, when I went to the plot there was just one tombstone, for my aunt who died in 1993. For all the rest there was just a nice patch of lawn.I would not have known the others were there. Of course, to use the records you will need the permission of the cemetery. ----- Original Message ----- From: <AnneTullar@aol.com> To: <PALACKAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [PA-LAC] Re: V01 #205 Cathedral Cemetery and Tombstone Transcription > Walt and all interested in the subject: Thanks so much for your reply. The > last thing I want to do is something redundant or competitive with another > effort. There is so much to be done, and I don't know in detail about > others' projects unless I happen to have used a source in my research. > > I'm going to go back now and study messages from others, maybe all interested > listers who read this can contribute follow-up thoughts if they have any. > > I wrote the above a couple of days ago. Since then I have pulled out the > Winter 1997 newsletter of the NE PA Genealogical Society ( I am a member only > of the GRSNP, but had ordered some of NEPGS's old newsletters). In it I see > a description of a records preservation project in the diocese, quoting The > Catholic Light of Oct. 9, 1997:"With the approval of Bishop James C. Timlin > in consultation with Chancellor James Earley, who is canonically responsible > for diocesan archives, the Northeast Pensylvania Genealogical Society of > Shavertown will begin preserving burial records at cemeteries around the > diocese....The society will place the St. Mary's [where the project is > starting, Hanover Twp.] Cemetery records...on microfilm using a computerized > process that also tracks and indexes the records.....the Genealogical Society > will make the records available in its library for people doing genealogical > research, saving the parish staff members hour of time looking for records]. > > It sounds as though they will be doing the Wilkes-Barre area first. > > So there is a precedent in place for cooperation from the Diocese, a good > thing. > > It seems a first task (I've never worked on a project other than > face-to-face, so do not know how we will organize ourselves--all ideas > welcome) will be to define the scope of the project: are we going to read > tombstones, or also try for the records? > > My initial thought is to get the tombstones read, since the old records are > so sparse, and it may be that others will be filming the records, at least > someday, but then I confuse easily and tend to need simplicity--at least at > the outset! I also don't want my ideas to have undue weight, particularly > since I'm no great shakes at genealogy and my computer skills are laughable. > Also, I live in North-for cryin' out loud--Carolina, so am remote from the > scene not only of Scranton but of the history of the two regional gen. > societies. Does anybody know more about this project that would be helpful > for us to be aware of? > > We have had wonderful offers of leadership and technical assistance from > Bob Walsh and Laura S. (would you two be willing to address your ideas to > the group as a whole?) > > After hearing from Laura and Bob, I knew we had what it takes to get > launched. I was so impressed by their generosity and energy. > > I think Joe Bryer is a regular reader of this list. Joe, whaddya think of > all this? Do you have some thoughts for us about it? > > Anne > > P.S. to Laura and Bob: I am just learning to cut and paste or I would have > shared your messages with the group. That's why I'm asking you to resend to > everybody. Thanks so much. > > > > > > > > > ==== PALACKAW Mailing List ==== > Have you seen the USGenWeb Pennsylvania Page? http://www.usgenweb.org/pa/ > To unsubscribe: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/index.html#MailingList > >

Jack, Thank you for the information. I didn't know that I could do that. Kay "J. J." wrote: > Kathryn: > > The obituary for Paul Brink was not in the morning edition of the > Scranton Times. You might try tomorrow. You can get the current > edition (and past editions) by logging on to: www.Scrantontimes.com > > Jack in San Diego > > ==== PALACKAW Mailing List ==== > Visit the Genealogical Research Society of Northeastern PA http://www.cfrobbins.com/grsnp/ > To unsubscribe: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/index.html#MailingList

Thanks for the link to Scranton Times. I just happened to find an obit for Helyn Fickus Stephens which gave me some infomation. Lenora from Wisconsin

MY TRIP TO ST. PATRICK CHURCH TO ASK ABOUT THE CEMETERY WAS ANOTHER SURPRISE --FATHER KELLY TOLD ME THAT THERE WERE NO RECORDS KEPT FROM 1900 UNTIL THE LATE 1940'S-- I WAS VERY TROUBLED BY THIS AS MY FATER AND UNCLE WENT BACK TO PA IN 1964 ASND PUT AHEADSTONE ON THEIR FATERS GRAVE AND THEY HAD NO IDEA WERE HIS GRAVE WAS AS IT WAS SO MANY YEARS BEFORE THEY WENT BACK AND GUESS WHAT THE AHEADSTONE WAS PLACED ON MY GRANDFATERS GRAVE----I WENT BACK JUST A FEW YEARS AGO AND NO HEADSTONE. MY AUNT SAID ALL HER FATHERS SISTER AND BROTHER WERE BURIED IN THE FIRST ROW TO THE RIGHT--ALL WITH HEADSTONE WELL NOT TODAY THERE ARE NEW HEADSTONES BUT NOT ONE OF MY FAMILY SO I KEEP WONDERING WHAT HAPPED TO MY KIN . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Toni Mason" <tmason@stny.rr.com> To: <PALACKAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 1:05 AM Subject: [PA-LAC] St. Patrick's Cemetery > Hi Everyone, > > Since the list is discussing cemeteries I would like to tell you about my visit to Scranton-Olyphant and St. Patrick's Cemetery. > > Although it is only 2 hours from where I live I don't get there very often and all my mother's relatives were from Olyphant, Carbondale and Scranton. My last visit a couple of months ago was short but I picked up quite a bit of information I didn't have before. The trip included one to GRSNP in Olyphant and was pleasantly surprised by all the friendly, helpful people there and the information that they have collected. I wanted to see the cemetery so went to St. Patrick's Rectory to get information on where my grandmother was buried. The woman I talked to could not give me any information and said that it would "take months" to even look and that an answer might not be forthcoming in any event. Apparently their records must be in terrible disarray. She did say that my grandmother would be in the "old section" of the cemetery since she died in 1915. She further said that I would recognize the "old section". > > > Well, she was right. The old section consisted of a very small number of tombstones, some of which were buried almost completely or unreadable. I was surprised at the condition of this cemetery in general. It is right next to a place that people must use as their own private "dumping grounds" . I left the area feeling very let down. Needless to say, I didn't find my grandmother. > > Sorry this is so long, but I have been "listening" to the discussion and wanted to ask if anyone has any information on this particular cemetery. Thanks in advance for any insights. > > Toni Mason > Researching: BOLAND, O'MALLEY, WALSH, MULHOLLAND > > > > ==== PALACKAW Mailing List ==== > Have you visited some of the surrounding counties? http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/#Surrounding_Counties > To unsubscribe: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/index.html#MailingList > >

I know there are some knowledgeable people out there and wondered if someone could give me answers to the following 2 questions. 1. What would cause my clock on the computer to change times for no reason at all? It seems to be just one hour difference but it has happened at least three times in the last few months. 2. I have Norton Anti-Virus 5.0 and wondered how I could scan attachments that come in to me that I think are probably all right but not sure. Is there a safe way to do it? People have sent me information pertaining to my requests for census information, etc. and I don't think they are viruses but wonder how to check. I believe the Norton 2001 automatically checks your attachments and removes them if they have viruses. I don't think my version does that. 3. What is your opinion on whether I should upgrade to Version 2001 or just pay the $4.00 per year for updates to Virus Definitions? I did not get a manual with my Norton and am not computer literate. Those questions might not pertain to this list but because of the fact that I am getting a lot of census information and other information pertaining to my ancestors I want to make sure I don't get viruses. I have already had the BADTRANS virus (got it from the PACensus list a couple of weeks ago and had quite a problem getting rid of it.) Thanks for all your help. Barbara

Paul Brink, 626 Harrison Avenue, Scranton, Pennsylvania, expired June 28. Would someone please send me the obit from the Scranton newspaper? You can reply directly to my email address. Kay

Kathryn: The obituary for Paul Brink was not in the morning edition of the Scranton Times. You might try tomorrow. You can get the current edition (and past editions) by logging on to: www.Scrantontimes.com Jack in San Diego

Walt and all interested in the subject: Thanks so much for your reply. The last thing I want to do is something redundant or competitive with another effort. There is so much to be done, and I don't know in detail about others' projects unless I happen to have used a source in my research. I'm going to go back now and study messages from others, maybe all interested listers who read this can contribute follow-up thoughts if they have any. I wrote the above a couple of days ago. Since then I have pulled out the Winter 1997 newsletter of the NE PA Genealogical Society ( I am a member only of the GRSNP, but had ordered some of NEPGS's old newsletters). In it I see a description of a records preservation project in the diocese, quoting The Catholic Light of Oct. 9, 1997:"With the approval of Bishop James C. Timlin in consultation with Chancellor James Earley, who is canonically responsible for diocesan archives, the Northeast Pensylvania Genealogical Society of Shavertown will begin preserving burial records at cemeteries around the diocese....The society will place the St. Mary's [where the project is starting, Hanover Twp.] Cemetery records...on microfilm using a computerized process that also tracks and indexes the records.....the Genealogical Society will make the records available in its library for people doing genealogical research, saving the parish staff members hour of time looking for records]. It sounds as though they will be doing the Wilkes-Barre area first. So there is a precedent in place for cooperation from the Diocese, a good thing. It seems a first task (I've never worked on a project other than face-to-face, so do not know how we will organize ourselves--all ideas welcome) will be to define the scope of the project: are we going to read tombstones, or also try for the records? My initial thought is to get the tombstones read, since the old records are so sparse, and it may be that others will be filming the records, at least someday, but then I confuse easily and tend to need simplicity--at least at the outset! I also don't want my ideas to have undue weight, particularly since I'm no great shakes at genealogy and my computer skills are laughable. Also, I live in North-for cryin' out loud--Carolina, so am remote from the scene not only of Scranton but of the history of the two regional gen. societies. Does anybody know more about this project that would be helpful for us to be aware of? We have had wonderful offers of leadership and technical assistance from Bob Walsh and Laura S. (would you two be willing to address your ideas to the group as a whole?) After hearing from Laura and Bob, I knew we had what it takes to get launched. I was so impressed by their generosity and energy. I think Joe Bryer is a regular reader of this list. Joe, whaddya think of all this? Do you have some thoughts for us about it? Anne P.S. to Laura and Bob: I am just learning to cut and paste or I would have shared your messages with the group. That's why I'm asking you to resend to everybody. Thanks so much.

I have discovered the name YOUREN in my family as the mother of Eliza A. YOUREN JAMES. They are listed in the 1880 census in Hanover, Luzerne, Pennsylvania. Does this name have a favorite part of England or could it be from several areas? Thanks for any help, Dot Hosking Huntley in SW Oregon

Thanks for the input, my father was adopted also. I will send for his SS# application and see if he put information I don't have. Thanks Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: BARBARA GALLAS <beejay@crosslink.net> To: <PALACKAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 4:33 PM Subject: [PA-LAC] S.S. Info > On one of the S.S. forms I sent for I found some information I never > expected. I discovered the man in question had been adopted by his > stepfather and it listed the name of his birth father. In this case I also > found the mother's maiden name which I had not known before. When parents > or even grandparents have been married more than once, the information > gained here may not be so easily available anywhere else. > Barb > -----Original Message----- > From: PALACKAW-D-request@rootsweb.com <PALACKAW-D-request@rootsweb.com> > To: PALACKAW-D@rootsweb.com <PALACKAW-D@rootsweb.com> > Date: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 4:41 PM > Subject: PALACKAW-D Digest V01 #208 > > > > > ==== PALACKAW Mailing List ==== > Subscribers -- Off topic postings (particularly political, advertising, or just plain rude) > AND responses on the list are grounds for being Unsubscribed > Please forward any offending email to <mailto:pieroth@ix.netcom.com> > To unsubscribe: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/index.html#MailingList > >

I have a Mary or Maria Teske who married a John McHale. They were from Scranton Pa. She came from Germany and settled with her family in Scranton in 1892.Mary is on the 1920 census as head of the household married with a son Willis age 5. Sandy from NY. ----- Original Message ----- From: Peggy Peterson <ppeterson@mags.net> To: <PALACKAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 5:09 PM Subject: [PA-LAC] John McHale > Looking for anyone connected to John McHale and Bina Robinson. They were married February 27, 1900. > John's father would have been Thomas McHale and his mother Bridget Bell(e). They lived in either > Jessup or Olyphant. > Peggy > > > > ==== PALACKAW Mailing List ==== > Visit the Northeast Pennsylvania Genealogical Society http://rootsweb.com/~panepgs/ > To unsubscribe: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/index.html#MailingList > >

Dear Walt, I noticed the name CROWE amongst your paternal names...my great-grandmother was Julia CROWE Kirk. She was born in what was then Phillipstown, Queens County (now Daingean, County Offly) Ireland. Her father was John Crowe, born Ireland on April 1, 1844 and her mother was Catherine Sullivan born Ireland in August of 1880. They had four children, Julia, born Ireland November 24, 1845; Catherine, born Ireland April 23, 1848; Ellen, born Ireland September 10, 1854; and John, born Ireland August 9, 1857. You and I have corresponded before about the Corbetts; I don't know if the Crowes are related to your family, but I thought you might like the information. Iva Hanlon

Hi Everyone, Since the list is discussing cemeteries I would like to tell you about my visit to Scranton-Olyphant and St. Patrick's Cemetery. Although it is only 2 hours from where I live I don't get there very often and all my mother's relatives were from Olyphant, Carbondale and Scranton. My last visit a couple of months ago was short but I picked up quite a bit of information I didn't have before. The trip included one to GRSNP in Olyphant and was pleasantly surprised by all the friendly, helpful people there and the information that they have collected. I wanted to see the cemetery so went to St. Patrick's Rectory to get information on where my grandmother was buried. The woman I talked to could not give me any information and said that it would "take months" to even look and that an answer might not be forthcoming in any event. Apparently their records must be in terrible disarray. She did say that my grandmother would be in the "old section" of the cemetery since she died in 1915. She further said that I would recognize the "old section". Well, she was right. The old section consisted of a very small number of tombstones, some of which were buried almost completely or unreadable. I was surprised at the condition of this cemetery in general. It is right next to a place that people must use as their own private "dumping grounds" . I left the area feeling very let down. Needless to say, I didn't find my grandmother. Sorry this is so long, but I have been "listening" to the discussion and wanted to ask if anyone has any information on this particular cemetery. Thanks in advance for any insights. Toni Mason Researching: BOLAND, O'MALLEY, WALSH, MULHOLLAND

I wonder if you are referring to WESTON FIELD near Scranton Memorial Stadium. It is in the area of Lower Providence Road. Some streets around it are Foster Avenue, Blair Avenue, Mead Avenue, Diamond Avenue and Albright Avenue. I believe WESTON FIELD was the only one large enough to accommodate the animals when the circus came to town Hope this helps Jack in San Diego