----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 2:26 AM Subject: Re: [PA-LAC] Re: PALACKAW-D Digest V05 #88 Hi Ruth, Since you list only one Gwen Richards as being born in Breconshire, this may well be the family for your first listing: 1891 Census, Llangynidr, Breconshire, Wales Ellen J. Richards, Head, Widow, 34, Charwoman Mary Richards, Daur, 11, Scholar, Breconshire, Llangynidr Ellen A. Richards, Daur, 9, Scholar, Breconshire, Llangynidr Gwen Richards, Daur, 8, Scholar, Breconshire, Llangynidr John Richards, Son, 6, Scholar, Breconshire, Llangynidr It seems likely that this is the family 10 years earlier in 1881: 1881 Census, Llangynidr, Breconshire, Wales Rees RICHARDS Head M Male 24 Llangunider, Brecknock, Wales Labourer Ellen RICHARDS Wife M Female 24 Sirhowy, Brecknock, Wales Mary RICHARDS Daur Female 1 Llangunider, Brecknock, Wales As for the listing for Gwen born in Dolgelly, there is only one match, but the date of birth is off by a couple of years: 1891 Census, Bangor, Carnarvonshire, Wales John Richards, Head, 33, Forester?, Merioneth, Dolgelley Mary Richards, Wife, 30, Merioneth, Dolgelley John Richards, Son, 11, Scholar, Merioneth, Dolgelley William Richards, Son, 8, Scholar, Merioneth, Dolgelley Evan Richards, Son, 6, Scholar, Merioneth, Dolgelley Gwen Richards, Daur, 5, Scholar, Merioneth, Dolgelley George H. Richards, Son, 3, Carnarvonshire, Bangor Robert J. Richards, Son, 1, , Carnarvonshire, Bangor There are several possibilities for a Gwen Richards born in Glamorganshire, however, like the entry above, the dates are off a bit. Do you have any idea when she married Frank McCloskey, or when she arrived in America? Have you found the family in the U.S. census? Cheers, Jeff Thomas > > In a message dated 6/26/2005 11:14:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ > > > > Laurie, > > I've gone through literally hundreds of Gwen, Gwendoline, Gwenllian, > Richards, and there are just three that may have a chance. I don't have a > subscription to Ancestry, so I can't look them up. > > If anyone who has access to these records could look up: > > Gwen Richards > Born (March 9 real date) , 1883 > Brechonshire Wales > > Gwen Richards > December 1883 > Dolgelly, Merionethshire > Montgomeryshire > > Gwendoline Richards > Abt. 1883 > Glamorgan Wales > > I'd really appreciate it. > > Ruth > > > ==== PALACKAW Mailing List ==== > Visit RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative: http://www.rootsweb.com/ > To unsubscribe: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/mailist.html#unsubscribe > >

To anyone researching in Wales or England. FreeBMD, which stands for Free Births Marriages and Deaths is one suggestion. It is an undertaking to index all the births marriages and deaths. However, bear in mind that it will not give you the date or the birthplace. It only tells what quarter of the year it was registered and in what office it was registered. Given the commonality of names in Wales you may have some difficulty. However if you find one that you think is it, you can order the certificates online (through the GRO--there is a link) charge it to your credit card and get it in about 2 weeks. I have gotten many certificates that way. I have done a few fishing expeditions and come up empty on some, but have found others. Another place to try is the British Census. England and Wales had a census every 10 years on the year 1, 1861, 1871, etc. Those before 1841 are only head counts and useless for genealogy. The latest one out is 1901. There is a 100 year waiting period. Ancestry has them indexed for 1861 to 1901. The nice thing about the British Census, is that unlike ours, they list addresses from early on, and when asked the place of birth, list the Town and County. Ancestry is available at any Family History Center and many libraries. There is also the IGI? You may hit luck there. Sadly, Wales is tough because of the commonality of surnames. There are only about 100 different surnames in Wales, and about 7% of the country is Jones. Then after a certain time period back you get into patronymics and that's a whole different can of worms. You really need to know the name of the place in which they were from before you can research. I have been lucky. I either knew the town from family lore, or have been able to get it from certificates that I ordered, the IGI, or the Census. Also, if you want information from Washburn St. Cemetery, you need to call Rader Insurance. I don't have the phone number offhand, but it is listed. Once you do know the town, you can continue through church records. Most towns in Wales and England have had their parish registers filmed by the LDS, and many go back into the 1700's at least. I have had great luck tracing families back once I have found their place of origin. Happy hunting. Tom Price

In a message dated 6/26/2005 11:14:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ Laurie, I've gone through literally hundreds of Gwen, Gwendoline, Gwenllian, Richards, and there are just three that may have a chance. I don't have a subscription to Ancestry, so I can't look them up. If anyone who has access to these records could look up: Gwen Richards Born (March 9 real date) , 1883 Brechonshire Wales Gwen Richards December 1883 Dolgelly, Merionethshire Montgomeryshire Gwendoline Richards Abt. 1883 Glamorgan Wales I'd really appreciate it. Ruth

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ Ruth, try the above link. It is free, though it is not complete. I have found some ancestors here and then followed up by ordering their birth/marriage/death records. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> : Tom, How can I find where my husband's grandmother came from when I don't : have a city in Wales? She died in Scranton 27 Feb. 1936, and was born in Wales : 9 March 1883. She married Frank McCloskey, who was born 22 Feb. 1878 in : Newton PA.

In a message dated 6/25/2005 11:26:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/forest/washburn3_v2-5.html Thanks, Patty, This was my husband's uncle. I wonder if the cemetery would have info on the parents. I'll try to contact them. Ruth

hi Ruth, Check out : http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/forest/washburn3_v2-5.html There is an Evan McCloskey buried at Washburn Son of Frank and Gwen Richards McCloskey Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [PA-LAC] Re: PALACKAW-D Digest V05 #88 > > In a message dated 6/24/2005 2:45:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Not all lists are quiet. The ones in England and Wales are still > bustling. > > > > Tom, How can I find where my husband's grandmother came from when I don't > have a city in Wales? She died in Scranton 27 Feb. 1936, and was born in > Wales > 9 March 1883. She married Frank McCloskey, who was born 22 Feb. 1878 in > Newton PA. > > I heard she was buried in the Washburn Cemetery, but I haven't found her. > The one time I got to that cemetery, no one was on the premises, and I > got > chased out by a thunder storm. > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Ruth > > > ==== PALACKAW Mailing List ==== > Visit RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative: http://www.rootsweb.com/ > To unsubscribe: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/mailist.html#unsubscribe > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.1/28 - Release Date: 6/24/2005 > >

In a message dated 6/24/2005 2:45:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Not all lists are quiet. The ones in England and Wales are still bustling. Tom, How can I find where my husband's grandmother came from when I don't have a city in Wales? She died in Scranton 27 Feb. 1936, and was born in Wales 9 March 1883. She married Frank McCloskey, who was born 22 Feb. 1878 in Newton PA. I heard she was buried in the Washburn Cemetery, but I haven't found her. The one time I got to that cemetery, no one was on the premises, and I got chased out by a thunder storm. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Ruth

Yes. I have a backlog of submissions that I will get onto the site before I hand it over. Part of my decision to give it up is the realization that I just was not finding enough time to do it justice, and now I have even less time to commit. -steve Thomas Price wrote: >Hi, Steve. Sorry you are giving it up. Before you leave, what about the last set of will indexes that I sent you last winter. Can you put them up before you leave? > >Not all lists are quiet. The ones in England and Wales are still bustling. > >Tom Price > > > > > >==== PALACKAW Mailing List ==== >Have you visited some of the surrounding counties? http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/#Surrounding_Counties >To unsubscribe: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/mailist.html#unsubscribe > > > > >

Hi All, On the map of Kingston Township 1873 for Luzerne Co on Rootsweb, Map Section 2, (now Lackawanna Co. I think,) near the Carverton P.O. is shown a M. E. Church and across the road is a Cemetery. Does anyone know the name of this cemetery and are there any records of burials available here? I believe Nathan Williams was the Minister here in 1870 and died shortly thereafter and may be buried here. Any help would sure be appreciated. Larry Webster in CO

Hi, Steve. Sorry you are giving it up. Before you leave, what about the last set of will indexes that I sent you last winter. Can you put them up before you leave? Not all lists are quiet. The ones in England and Wales are still bustling. Tom Price

Hi Steve, I'd like to take over for you. What do I need to do? Sheri Nielsen Maine,USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Swales" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 6:53 PM Subject: [PA-LAC] new county coordinator needed : : Regretfully, I need to give up my role as county coordinator for : Lackawanna County. If anyone is interested in : taking over from me, please let me know. : : Thanks, : : -steve : : : ==== PALACKAW Mailing List ==== : Visit the Lackawanna County, PA Archives http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/lackawp.html : To unsubscribe: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/mailist.html#unsubscribe : :

Regretfully, I need to give up my role as county coordinator for Lackawanna County. If anyone is interested in taking over from me, please let me know. Thanks, -steve

Thank you girls for asking the questions.I haven;t received any mail either,but I figured I must have done something wrong.Bill Thomas in NJ Looking for Marshall,Thomas,[email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Masters, Susan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:58 AM Subject: RE: [PA-LAC] Testing > Guess it's that good old summertime Joan.... > > Susan Masters > Memphis, TN > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joan Carpenter [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:43 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [PA-LAC] Testing > > I have not received a message for over three weeks. Is something wrong > with > the list. > Joan in California > > > ==== PALACKAW Mailing List ==== > Have you visited the Lackawanna County page lately? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/ > To unsubscribe: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/mailist.html#unsubscribe > > > ==== PALACKAW Mailing List ==== > Have you visited some of the surrounding counties? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/#Surrounding_Counties > To unsubscribe: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/mailist.html#unsubscribe > >

Joan, I was wondering about that, myself! What is your family ties name in Lackawanna County? Mine is Connolly. Cinda Hartman -----Original Message----- From: Joan Carpenter [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:43 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [PA-LAC] Testing I have not received a message for over three weeks. Is something wrong with the list. Joan in California ==== PALACKAW Mailing List ==== Have you visited the Lackawanna County page lately? http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/ To unsubscribe: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/mailist.html#unsubscribe

Guess it's that good old summertime Joan.... Susan Masters Memphis, TN -----Original Message----- From: Joan Carpenter [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:43 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [PA-LAC] Testing I have not received a message for over three weeks. Is something wrong with the list. Joan in California ==== PALACKAW Mailing List ==== Have you visited the Lackawanna County page lately? http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/ To unsubscribe: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/mailist.html#unsubscribe

Lists have been very slow lately. If you think you have missed some posts, check the archives for this list at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PALACKAW Pat Duncan [email protected] > >

I have not received a message for over three weeks. Is something wrong with the list. Joan in California

Good morning listers ~ I have a copy of a burial permit from Washburn Cemetery for a "Jennie Reese". d.10.19.1918 at the age of 36. If she is part of anyones research let me know. Curly --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing & more. Check it out!

Hi I'm Looking for someone at Washburn, also. No seems to know anything about that cemetary. The person I'm looking for is or was my uncle that died when he was a child. His name was Ivor Aston and he died sometime between 1904 and 1911. He is not listed in the 1910 census report so it had to be before the census was taken that year. As far as I know the grave is not marked but it should be in the records somewhere. If anyone has any suggestions, they will be welcome. Thanks Carol

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