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    1. Re: [PA-LAC] Re: Returned mail: delivery problems encountered
    2. Erik A. Samson
    3. Hi Bill, I am 54 years old and grew up in Lake Ariel and have returned. I just barely remember the amusement park. There is nothing left, matter of fact a house has been built in the area of the park. I also spent many a summer at the beach. That no longer exists either. It is fenced in. My father had told me stories about the beach house when it was in its prime. A large boat for rides and a large water slide. It is sad in a way since it is all gone. The price of the future seems sometimes to be very expensive. Take care, Erik Erik A Samson Lake Ariel, Pennsylvania 18436 [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "bill thomas" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 1:30 PM Subject: [PA-LAC] Re: Returned mail: delivery problems encountered > Carl > They tell me your address was no good.I was asking about Lake Ariel for > nostalgic reasons. > I went there on a church picnic and an outing with my 8th grade class(66 > years ago),then they had rides and such. > Thanks for your reply. > Bill Thomas > Ps my family names are Marshall,Thomas,Jones,Evans,and Argust > > > ==== PALACKAW Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lackawanna County, PA Archives > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/lackawp.html > To unsubscribe: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/mailist.html#unsubscribe >

    08/27/2005 08:47:36
    1. Gibbons,McAndrews,Hnes, Langley, Mulcahey
    2. Suzie Potter
    3. Hi all, I'm back online now. Here are a few surnames that I am researching. Suzie _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

    08/27/2005 04:05:43
    1. Re: [PA-LAC] Lake Areal (spelling???)
    2. bill thomas
    3. Ruth; I'll bet old but beautiful. Have a great day. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 1:43 AM Subject: Re: [PA-LAC] Lake Areal (spelling???) > > In a message dated 8/26/2005 6:47:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Erik A Samson > Lake Ariel, Pennsylvania 18436 > > > > Hi Erik, > > I haven't heard that name in a long time. My Dad used to take us there > to > watch the fireworks back in the late 40's ( now you know I'm ancient ). > > Ruth > > > ==== PALACKAW Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lackawanna County, PA Archives > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/lackawp.html > To unsubscribe: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/mailist.html#unsubscribe > >

    08/27/2005 03:34:16
    1. Re: [PA-LAC] Lake Areal (spelling???)
    2. In a message dated 8/26/2005 6:47:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Erik A Samson Lake Ariel, Pennsylvania 18436 Hi Erik, I haven't heard that name in a long time. My Dad used to take us there to watch the fireworks back in the late 40's ( now you know I'm ancient ). Ruth

    08/26/2005 07:43:22
    1. Re: [PA-LAC] General: Gov. to limit access to Birth and Death Records
    2. James Mincher
    3. I don't understand this! What good is it going to do someone to use a dead persons Soc Sec number? If they set up a Amer. Express account with that number, Amer Express will have to go after a dead person for their money? ----- Original Message ----- From: Janet Randall<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 9:49 PM Subject: [PA-LAC] General: Gov. to limit access to Birth and Death Records My daughter does a lot of research in this county in Iowa as well as Northeast PA. But it pertains to all of us. Has anyone been following this? Government will limit access to birth, death records By Cynthia Beaudette of the Muscatine Journal MUSCATINE, Iowa n Area residents researching their ancestry may find more answers at the Musser Public Library than the Muscatine County Recorder's office beginning Jan. 1, 2007. That's when the federal government will ask county recorders across the nation to keep birth and death certificates under lock and key to help prevent identity theft. States will have the option to decline but not without penalty to its residents. One reason for the restriction is that many death certificates contain Social Security numbers, which could be used for identity theft. Muscatine County Recorder Cindy Gray said the new law will also require birth certificates to be renewed every five years to prevent people from fraudulently using the name of someone who died. The Muscatine County Board of Supervisors got the news from Gray during its regular Monday meeting. Gray said an official from the Iowa Department of Vital Records described the upcoming law during a recorders' summer class this month. Gray said they were told that access to birth and death records will be limited to family members who have a legal reason to see the records. After Jan. 1, 2007, the records will be off limits to the public and media. It's not clear yet whether other exceptions will be made as some details of the law have not been finalized. "Right now, anyone can come in and look at our records and write down what they see," said Gray. Residents of states that choose not to comply with this new law will not be able to use their birth certificates to obtain passports for travel to other countries, Gray said. After the law goes into effect, the records can be retrieved only by a county employee who has signed a statement of confidentiality. Gray said her office gets up to 20 requests a week for records. "We have a lot of people coming in for genealogy research," she said. "We give those to genealogists here in town." Gray said there are several area residents who come into the recorder's office to do research for a fee . The courthouse charges $15 for each copy of a certificate; $4 of that money stays with the county and the rest goes to the state of Iowa. When the new law goes into effect, private researchers will not have access to those records and this will create more work for the people in her office because staff will have to do the research. "There is no way, with the personnel we have now that we could do it," said Gray. "We'll have to hire someone." Gray said she doesn't know what such a position will entail until all the federal regulations come down. Gray's staff may be able to refer some people to the Musser Public Library. Sheila Chaudoin, assistant director at the library, said she doesn't have copies of birth and death records, but she helps people look up published obituaries and birth records indexed from the Muscatine Journal." "Few people need a death or birth certificate for genealogy purposes," said Chaudoin. In addition, Chaudoin said the library has a good relationship with area cemetery officials who can give her internment dates to help narrow down searches. Chaudoin, who is in charge of the library's local genealogy and history department, said the Muscatine County Genealogical Society has been helping the library staff index the obituaries and birth announcements. "We're getting close to putting a large amount of that information online so people throughout the country can find it," said Chaudoin. Glady Mittman, a Muscatine resident who is not a professional genealogist but does considerable genealogy research for herself and others, says the library "does have a lot of information." However, the new law "will make it more difficult for genealogists. .. I'd hate to see that happen, especially with the very old records. I don't see any good reason for that." Gray and members of the Board of Supervisors said people who are concerned that the new law will overly restrict access to birth and death records may want to voice concerns to their state legislators. Contact Cynthia Beaudette at: 563-263-2331 Ext. 323 or[email protected] (Additional information edited by me to accomadate list./JR) Social Security numbers n history http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/ssncards.html<http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/ssncards.html> Source: http://www.muscatinejournal.com/articles/2005/08/16/news/doc43020391e5419571743186.txt<http://www.muscatinejournal.com/articles/2005/08/16/news/doc43020391e5419571743186.txt> Muscatine (Iowa) Journal Friday, Aug 26, 2005 Janet Ackerman Randall Taylors, SC ==== PALACKAW Mailing List ==== Have you visited the Genealogical Research Society of NE PA? http://www.cfrobbins.com/grsnp/<http://www.cfrobbins.com/grsnp/> To unsubscribe: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/mailist.html#unsubscribe<http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/mailist.html#unsubscribe>

    08/26/2005 05:44:22
    1. General: Gov. to limit access to Birth and Death Records
    2. Janet Randall
    3. My daughter does a lot of research in this county in Iowa as well as Northeast PA. But it pertains to all of us. Has anyone been following this? Government will limit access to birth, death records By Cynthia Beaudette of the Muscatine Journal MUSCATINE, Iowa n Area residents researching their ancestry may find more answers at the Musser Public Library than the Muscatine County Recorder's office beginning Jan. 1, 2007. That's when the federal government will ask county recorders across the nation to keep birth and death certificates under lock and key to help prevent identity theft. States will have the option to decline but not without penalty to its residents. One reason for the restriction is that many death certificates contain Social Security numbers, which could be used for identity theft. Muscatine County Recorder Cindy Gray said the new law will also require birth certificates to be renewed every five years to prevent people from fraudulently using the name of someone who died. The Muscatine County Board of Supervisors got the news from Gray during its regular Monday meeting. Gray said an official from the Iowa Department of Vital Records described the upcoming law during a recorders' summer class this month. Gray said they were told that access to birth and death records will be limited to family members who have a legal reason to see the records. After Jan. 1, 2007, the records will be off limits to the public and media. It's not clear yet whether other exceptions will be made as some details of the law have not been finalized. "Right now, anyone can come in and look at our records and write down what they see," said Gray. Residents of states that choose not to comply with this new law will not be able to use their birth certificates to obtain passports for travel to other countries, Gray said. After the law goes into effect, the records can be retrieved only by a county employee who has signed a statement of confidentiality. Gray said her office gets up to 20 requests a week for records. "We have a lot of people coming in for genealogy research," she said. "We give those to genealogists here in town." Gray said there are several area residents who come into the recorder's office to do research for a fee . The courthouse charges $15 for each copy of a certificate; $4 of that money stays with the county and the rest goes to the state of Iowa. When the new law goes into effect, private researchers will not have access to those records and this will create more work for the people in her office because staff will have to do the research. "There is no way, with the personnel we have now that we could do it," said Gray. "We'll have to hire someone." Gray said she doesn't know what such a position will entail until all the federal regulations come down. Gray's staff may be able to refer some people to the Musser Public Library. Sheila Chaudoin, assistant director at the library, said she doesn't have copies of birth and death records, but she helps people look up published obituaries and birth records indexed from the Muscatine Journal." "Few people need a death or birth certificate for genealogy purposes," said Chaudoin. In addition, Chaudoin said the library has a good relationship with area cemetery officials who can give her internment dates to help narrow down searches. Chaudoin, who is in charge of the library's local genealogy and history department, said the Muscatine County Genealogical Society has been helping the library staff index the obituaries and birth announcements. "We're getting close to putting a large amount of that information online so people throughout the country can find it," said Chaudoin. Glady Mittman, a Muscatine resident who is not a professional genealogist but does considerable genealogy research for herself and others, says the library "does have a lot of information." However, the new law "will make it more difficult for genealogists. ... I'd hate to see that happen, especially with the very old records. I don't see any good reason for that." Gray and members of the Board of Supervisors said people who are concerned that the new law will overly restrict access to birth and death records may want to voice concerns to their state legislators. Contact Cynthia Beaudette at: 563-263-2331 Ext. 323 or[email protected] (Additional information edited by me to accomadate list./JR) Social Security numbers n history http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/ssncards.html Source: http://www.muscatinejournal.com/articles/2005/08/16/news/doc43020391e5419571743186.txt Muscatine (Iowa) Journal Friday, Aug 26, 2005 Janet Ackerman Randall Taylors, SC

    08/26/2005 04:49:09
    1. RE: [PA-LAC] City Directories - Lackawanna County
    2. robert douglass
    3. There are no city directories for Olyphant only for large city's like Scranton and Carbondale. All the small towns had none. I am searching for Olyphant and that is what I was told at the library. I hop this helps you out Bob D. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Callahan [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 7:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PA-LAC] City Directories - Lackawanna County How about city? or town? directories for Mayfield for 1890 to 1899? anyone know of any databases for Mayfield residents for those years? joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deb Coe" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 4:33 PM Subject: [PA-LAC] City Directories - Lackawanna County > What years are the earliest city directories for Jermyn, Taylor and > Olyphant held in the Scranton Public library?? What are the latest > years held for these cities? I have relatives living in these cities > from the late 1880's thru the 1970's and wanted to find out where they > were living after 1930 and between the 1880 census and the 1900 census. > > Does Ancestry.com have a subscription to any of these city directories > during these time periods? > > Deb > > > ==== PALACKAW Mailing List ==== > Have you visited some of the surrounding counties? http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/#Surrounding_Counties > To unsubscribe: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/mailist.html#unsubscribe > > > ==== PALACKAW Mailing List ==== Visit the Lackawanna County, PA Archives http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/lackawp.html To unsubscribe: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/mailist.html#unsubscribe

    08/26/2005 02:28:53
    1. City Directories - Lackawanna County
    2. Deb Coe
    3. What years are the earliest city directories for Jermyn, Taylor and Olyphant held in the Scranton Public library?? What are the latest years held for these cities? I have relatives living in these cities from the late 1880's thru the 1970's and wanted to find out where they were living after 1930 and between the 1880 census and the 1900 census. Does Ancestry.com have a subscription to any of these city directories during these time periods? Deb

    08/26/2005 12:33:02
    1. Re: [PA-LAC] City Directories - Lackawanna County
    2. Joe Callahan
    3. How about city? or town? directories for Mayfield for 1890 to 1899? anyone know of any databases for Mayfield residents for those years? joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deb Coe" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 4:33 PM Subject: [PA-LAC] City Directories - Lackawanna County > What years are the earliest city directories for Jermyn, Taylor and > Olyphant held in the Scranton Public library?? What are the latest > years held for these cities? I have relatives living in these cities > from the late 1880's thru the 1970's and wanted to find out where they > were living after 1930 and between the 1880 census and the 1900 census. > > Does Ancestry.com have a subscription to any of these city directories > during these time periods? > > Deb > > > ==== PALACKAW Mailing List ==== > Have you visited some of the surrounding counties? http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/#Surrounding_Counties > To unsubscribe: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/mailist.html#unsubscribe > > >

    08/26/2005 11:33:34
    1. Re: Returned mail: delivery problems encountered
    2. bill thomas
    3. Carl They tell me your address was no good.I was asking about Lake Ariel for nostalgic reasons. I went there on a church picnic and an outing with my 8th grade class(66 years ago),then they had rides and such. Thanks for your reply. Bill Thomas Ps my family names are Marshall,Thomas,Jones,Evans,and Argust

    08/26/2005 07:30:35
    1. Re: [PA-LAC] Lake Areal (spelling???)
    2. bill thomas
    3. Thank you so much. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erik A. Samson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [PA-LAC] Lake Areal (spelling???) > Hi Bill, > > Lake Ariel Pennsylvania is located in Northeastern PA. About 20 miles > east of Scranton. 9 miles south of Honesdale on US Route 191. 4 miles > north of Hamlin on US Route 191. > > Hope this helps. > Erik > > Erik A Samson > Lake Ariel, Pennsylvania 18436 > [email protected] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bill thomas" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 3:41 PM > Subject: [PA-LAC] Lake Areal (spelling???) > > >> Can someone please tell me where it is? >> Thanks Bill Thomas >> >> >> ==== PALACKAW Mailing List ==== >> Search the Lackawanna pages: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/search.html >> To unsubscribe: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/mailist.html#unsubscribe >> > > > ==== PALACKAW Mailing List ==== > Pennsylvania USGenWeb site for other county pages & lists > http://www.usgenweb.org/pa > To unsubscribe: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/mailist.html#unsubscribe > >

    08/26/2005 04:58:25
    1. Re: [PA-LAC] Lake Areal (spelling???)
    2. Erik A. Samson
    3. Hi Bill, Lake Ariel Pennsylvania is located in Northeastern PA. About 20 miles east of Scranton. 9 miles south of Honesdale on US Route 191. 4 miles north of Hamlin on US Route 191. Hope this helps. Erik Erik A Samson Lake Ariel, Pennsylvania 18436 [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "bill thomas" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 3:41 PM Subject: [PA-LAC] Lake Areal (spelling???) > Can someone please tell me where it is? > Thanks Bill Thomas > > > ==== PALACKAW Mailing List ==== > Search the Lackawanna pages: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/search.html > To unsubscribe: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/mailist.html#unsubscribe >

    08/26/2005 01:46:38
    1. Re: [PA-LAC] Lake Areal (spelling???)
    2. bill thomas
    3. Thanks a bunch. bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "marilyn murphy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [PA-LAC] Lake Areal (spelling???) > Lake Ariel is roughly 20 or so miles east of Scranton. It is located in > Wayne County. > > bill thomas <[email protected]> wrote: > Can someone please tell me where it is? > Thanks > Bill Thomas > > > ==== PALACKAW Mailing List ==== > Search the Lackawanna pages: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/search.html > To unsubscribe: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/mailist.html#unsubscribe > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== PALACKAW Mailing List ==== > Have you visited the Lackawanna County page lately? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/ > To unsubscribe: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/mailist.html#unsubscribe > >

    08/25/2005 10:31:55
    1. Lake Areal (spelling???)
    2. bill thomas
    3. Can someone please tell me where it is? Thanks Bill Thomas

    08/25/2005 09:41:21
    1. Re: [PA-LAC] Lake Areal (spelling???)
    2. marilyn murphy
    3. Lake Ariel is roughly 20 or so miles east of Scranton. It is located in Wayne County. bill thomas <[email protected]> wrote: Can someone please tell me where it is? Thanks Bill Thomas ==== PALACKAW Mailing List ==== Search the Lackawanna pages: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/search.html To unsubscribe: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/mailist.html#unsubscribe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

    08/25/2005 06:54:16
    1. RE: [PA-LAC] cemetery location
    2. Gilroy Roland W Ctr ACC/A3XA
    3. Not sure if this is the one, photo attached Skip -----Original Message----- From: Cheryl [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 10:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PA-LAC] cemetery location Hi: Has anyone on the list every heard of the Clifford Valley Cem.? I have several family members buried in the Lackawanna Co. area, but have never heard of this cemetery before. Any help appreciated. Cheryl ==== PALACKAW Mailing List ==== Have you visited some of the surrounding counties? http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/#Surrounding_Counties To unsubscribe: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/mailist.html#unsubscribe

    08/22/2005 12:30:26
    1. Genealogy software
    2. I hope the list doesn't mind my query about genealogy software that is designed for an Apple. I am purchasing an Apple ibook and want something to use for my files. If anyone out there using an Apple and has a good suggestion, please email me offlist at [email protected] Thanks! Gayle T. Baar Irving, TX but with roots in PA

    08/21/2005 03:06:12
    1. Someday maybe I'll find a family bible
    2. Every since my mother, out of hatred of my father, destroyed my LANCE ( LANTZ) family bible keep hoping one day to find another copy. Maybe someday. Laurence Lance Seattle

    08/21/2005 02:23:15
    1. Re: [PA-LAC] cemetery location
    2. Marian
    3. Clifford Valley Cemetery is located on Route 106, Clifford, Susquehanna County, PA. My parents are buried in that cemetery. Marian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 10:03 PM Subject: [PA-LAC] cemetery location > Hi: > Has anyone on the list every heard of the Clifford Valley Cem.? I have > several family members buried in the Lackawanna Co. area, but have never > heard of this cemetery before. Any help appreciated. > Cheryl > > > ==== PALACKAW Mailing List ==== > Have you visited some of the surrounding counties? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/#Surrounding_Counties > To unsubscribe: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/mailist.html#unsubscribe >

    08/20/2005 02:13:51
    1. Newbie - Surnames of Interest (Kavulich, Krupar, Tremko, Papcun)
    2. Deb Coe
    3. Hi Everyone, I am new to the list and thought I would list all of my surname interests and the locations and time periods for each surname. I am researching the following families: Michael Krupar - Taylor, PA came to the USA from Slovakia about 1889. His wife Maria Papcun Krupar followed in 1890 with their daughter Mary. They had 1 son, John Krupar born in Cardondale in March-1895. Michael Krupar died in Taylor in August-1895. His wife Maria Krupar married John Tremko in late 1895 in Taylor, PA. They had 1 son, George Tremko born in March-1898 and 4 daughters, Mary in 1904; Agnes in 1908; Elizabeth in 1909 and Ann in 1910. They continued to live in Taylor, PA on Oak Street thru the 1930 census. John Tremko died between 1910 and 1920. John Kavulich - Taylor, PA came to the USA from Slovakia about 1901. He married Elizabeth Papcun in July 1903 in Taylor, PA. They had 9 children all born in Lackawanna Co. in and around Taylor thru the 1930 census. Joseph Kavulich - Jermyn, PA came to the USA from Slovakia about 1906. He is the brother to John Kavulich above. He married Anna Papcun in Aug-1907 in Taylor, PA. They had 6 children all born in Greenfield Twp, PA thru the 1930 census. Any information pertaining to these families, especially the TREMKO and KRUPAR families would be appreciated. Thanks.. Deb

    08/19/2005 03:40:44