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    1. PA SWARTZ/PETERS
    2. m thompson
    3. I am seeking others researching these central PA families of Juniata and Dauphin Co: 1) John/Henry PETERS of Lancaster>Dauphin + Nancy KINTER? 2) PETERS, Samuel (c1821PA-1860/70PA) of Dauphin + Mary Ann SWARTZ (1820PA-1897PA) of Juniata>Dauphin d/o Jonas? SWARTZ b PA 3) Mary Louise 3) John 3) Emma 3) Tilley 3) Jane 2) Abraham b 1827 + Annie Stoner 2) Henry Jr Thanks, Marc ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

    01/11/1999 02:24:32
    1. Re: Dressler
    2. Gordon & Sherry
    3. Some of the Dresslers come back into the Juniata co., PA GELNETT family. I know the Bastress family does. Can't say about the others. Sherry Bish Jesberger ---------- > From: Joyce Lund <lundway@rockisland.com> > To: PAJUNIAT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: PAJUNIAT-D Digest V99 #4 > Date: Sunday, January 10, 1999 10:24 PM > > Hello! > > Mary, I have DRESSLERS in my family but have very little info and have > not as yet pursued that line. Here it is: > > I have a DRESSLER who married Charlotte Mae ZEIDERS. (Zeiders is one > of my direct lines) > I have a female DRESSLER who married Eli COX (Cox is both a maternal > AND paternal direct line) > I have a Eva DRESSLER who married Peter BASTRESS > I have a Mary Jane DRESSLER born in Monroe Township, Juniata Co. > Most important, my grandfather's sister (my gt aunt) married Elmer > DRESSLER b: 1881, d: 1 Jan 1960 in an > auto accident and is buried in Richfield, Juniata Co. > > That's it. If anything rings a bell, let me know. We must connect > somewhere along the "line"! > > Joyce Cox Lund > ....in the beautiful Pacific Northwest > MITAKUYE OYASIN..... > we are all related.......(Lakota Sioux) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <MARLR43@aol.com> > To: <PAJUNIAT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 09, 1999 3:17 PM > Subject: Re: PAJUNIAT-D Digest V99 #4 > > > >Hello Everyone. I would be willing to share any information I have > found with > >any of you on the following families. Benner, Watts, Snyder, > Dressler, Naugle, > >Felmlee. not sure last one is right. > > > >My gggrandfather was John F. Benner. he was born in 1844 in West > Perry > >Township. He married Eliza Snyder in 1866. He served with the 76th PA > Vol. > >Inf. Co. D of the Keystone Zoavues. He served from 1861 -1864 when he > >reenlisted as Vet. Vol. and was discharged in the summer of 1865. > John and > >Eliza had eleven children. They were Henry E., Daniel, Sarah E, Annie > A., Cora > >P, Mabel M, Garfield K, Elisha A, John E, Oliver M, and Bertha M. > > > >I remembe meeting Oliver as he spent time at my parents home in > Harrisburg > >when I was young. He was old then. I have since found out that Johns > parents > >could have been one of two couples.This is where I need help. In the > 1850 > >census it says John Age 6 this would be right. We think he was the > youngest > >son of Daniel and Catherine (Felmlee) Benner (not sure of the > spelling) or the > >oldest son of Jacob and Sarah (Naugle) Benner. If anyone can help me > >straighten this out I would surely appreciate it. My ggrandmother > Annie > >married James A Watts. I am also seeking info on his family. His > father was > >Samuel Watts and mother Tillie (Dressler). I believe Samuel may have > been in > >the Civil War also. > >Thank you ahead of time to anyone who can help me. > >Mary Roeder. > > > >______________________________ >

    01/11/1999 05:49:17
    1. Re: PAJUNIAT-D Digest V99 #4
    2. Joyce Lund
    3. Hello! Mary, I have DRESSLERS in my family but have very little info and have not as yet pursued that line. Here it is: I have a DRESSLER who married Charlotte Mae ZEIDERS. (Zeiders is one of my direct lines) I have a female DRESSLER who married Eli COX (Cox is both a maternal AND paternal direct line) I have a Eva DRESSLER who married Peter BASTRESS I have a Mary Jane DRESSLER born in Monroe Township, Juniata Co. Most important, my grandfather's sister (my gt aunt) married Elmer DRESSLER b: 1881, d: 1 Jan 1960 in an auto accident and is buried in Richfield, Juniata Co. That's it. If anything rings a bell, let me know. We must connect somewhere along the "line"! Joyce Cox Lund ....in the beautiful Pacific Northwest MITAKUYE OYASIN..... we are all related.......(Lakota Sioux) ----- Original Message ----- From: <MARLR43@aol.com> To: <PAJUNIAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 1999 3:17 PM Subject: Re: PAJUNIAT-D Digest V99 #4 >Hello Everyone. I would be willing to share any information I have found with >any of you on the following families. Benner, Watts, Snyder, Dressler, Naugle, >Felmlee. not sure last one is right. > >My gggrandfather was John F. Benner. he was born in 1844 in West Perry >Township. He married Eliza Snyder in 1866. He served with the 76th PA Vol. >Inf. Co. D of the Keystone Zoavues. He served from 1861 -1864 when he >reenlisted as Vet. Vol. and was discharged in the summer of 1865. John and >Eliza had eleven children. They were Henry E., Daniel, Sarah E, Annie A., Cora >P, Mabel M, Garfield K, Elisha A, John E, Oliver M, and Bertha M. > >I remembe meeting Oliver as he spent time at my parents home in Harrisburg >when I was young. He was old then. I have since found out that Johns parents >could have been one of two couples.This is where I need help. In the 1850 >census it says John Age 6 this would be right. We think he was the youngest >son of Daniel and Catherine (Felmlee) Benner (not sure of the spelling) or the >oldest son of Jacob and Sarah (Naugle) Benner. If anyone can help me >straighten this out I would surely appreciate it. My ggrandmother Annie >married James A Watts. I am also seeking info on his family. His father was >Samuel Watts and mother Tillie (Dressler). I believe Samuel may have been in >the Civil War also. >Thank you ahead of time to anyone who can help me. >Mary Roeder. > >______________________________

    01/10/1999 08:24:50
    1. Howard Lewis Moore, PA and NJ
    2. Lewis Moore
    3. I've been trying to obtain information about the parents of my grandfather, HOWARD LEWIS MOORE, who was apparently born around 1870/5 in Mifflintown, Juniata County, Pennsylvania. He later moved to Bound Brook, New Jersey and married my grandmother, Minnie Brooks Fisher. Howard's parents' names were SAMUEL MOORE and Mary Livingston. If anyone has any connecting info, I would be pleased to hear from them. Lew Moore Tasmania

    01/10/1999 02:22:11
    1. Ship Passenger Lists
    2. Angie Buchanan-Bloch
    3. Does anyone know whether it was standard practice to list all family members on a passenger list or just the head of family? The one I'm working with is a Cargo Manifest (1802) which lists passengers, so I'm wondering if this might have been handled differently than a regular passenger list. The list has the name of my ancestor at the right place and time, but it doesn't list the names of his wife and 3 children. Does this mean I should rule it out? Thanks, Angie Buchanan-Bloch http://goose.ycp.edu/~abuchana

    01/09/1999 07:43:05
    1. McCahrens
    2. Garth Brackbill
    3. I am looking for descendants of Henry and Sophia{Stewart} McCahren, They had Mary A., Margaret J., William A., Sarah, Elizabeth C., Matilda, Alfred, James Lewis, Stewart, & George I. Garth E. Brackbill

    01/09/1999 05:39:25
    1. Re: PAJUNIAT-D Digest V99 #4
    2. Hello Everyone. I would be willing to share any information I have found with any of you on the following families. Benner, Watts, Snyder, Dressler, Naugle, Felmlee. not sure last one is right. My gggrandfather was John F. Benner. he was born in 1844 in West Perry Township. He married Eliza Snyder in 1866. He served with the 76th PA Vol. Inf. Co. D of the Keystone Zoavues. He served from 1861 -1864 when he reenlisted as Vet. Vol. and was discharged in the summer of 1865. John and Eliza had eleven children. They were Henry E., Daniel, Sarah E, Annie A., Cora P, Mabel M, Garfield K, Elisha A, John E, Oliver M, and Bertha M. I remembe meeting Oliver as he spent time at my parents home in Harrisburg when I was young. He was old then. I have since found out that Johns parents could have been one of two couples.This is where I need help. In the 1850 census it says John Age 6 this would be right. We think he was the youngest son of Daniel and Catherine (Felmlee) Benner (not sure of the spelling) or the oldest son of Jacob and Sarah (Naugle) Benner. If anyone can help me straighten this out I would surely appreciate it. My ggrandmother Annie married James A Watts. I am also seeking info on his family. His father was Samuel Watts and mother Tillie (Dressler). I believe Samuel may have been in the Civil War also. Thank you ahead of time to anyone who can help me. Mary Roeder.

    01/09/1999 11:17:48
    1. Cataloging cemeteries
    2. Joyce Lund
    3. Hello Listees, I'm putting this out on several lists so my apologies if you get this message more than once........ I am the president of a new 80-member, fledgling GS, formed in May of 1998. Our 1999 project is to catalog all the cemeteries and burials in the county, some of which have been done already by the parent county "back when". This is completely new to us. How to proceed is beyond our ability to determine. Has anyone out there been involved in this kind of project and if so, can you be so kind as to give us some guidelines. Here's the catch: Our county is comprised of 172 ISLANDS! There are cemeteries that many people don't even know exist, including indian burial grounds. Much will be done by private boat or plane. This should not present a problem: just take longer, but procedure and accuracy are our concerns at present. TIA for any help or guidelines........ Also, how does YOUR GS handle outside queries with roots in your county? We want to establish a policy and help in any way we can. Thanks for your advice. Joyce Cox Lund ....in the beautiful Pacific Northwest

    01/08/1999 09:02:59
    1. Ancestry data base
    2. Viola Limric
    3. Just wanted to let everyone know that Ancestry has opened their data bases for the month of January for free use. http://www.ancestry.com/promosplash.htm Vi Limric

    01/07/1999 11:31:46
    1. Reciprocal efforts.
    2. Roxanne, Thanks for your response. I have been greatly helped by the efforts of others. I too am willing to let anyone piigyback off my efforts. It is a cause for concern. Tim

    01/04/1999 04:27:10
    1. Drive through research
    2. Roxanne
    3. For those of us in remote areas who want to trace our family history published information is a blessing. It has not been possible for me - the first generation Alaskan in a two hundred year family history in Pennsylvania - to visit the courthouses of Juniata County where most of my family records are housed. I rely on microfilm from the LDS Family History centers and mail requests for proof of identity. The internet is not a valid proof - but in many cases it has provided me with a place to begin to send for the original records. Example - I saw a graveyard posted on the internet with the headstone records of my 3rd great grandmother, her two sons and several siblings. I am now able to request the records. I appreciate the thousands of volunteers who contribute their research to assist me in mine and the many individuals who have responded to my inquiries. In return I am assisting those folks from the east who request information on the boat that sank with great uncle Harry on board off Kodiak or the great grandfather who disappeared in the Klondike. This work is not possible without reciprocal effort. Roxanne -----Original Message----- From: Gordon & Sherry <gljslj@penn.com> To: PAJUNIAT-L@rootsweb.com <PAJUNIAT-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, January 03, 1999 1:30 PM Subject: Re: BE AWARE! >This is all rather chilling for those who rely on the Internet and the WFT >discs and other mailorder genealogy sources to do their genealogy. > >But for those of us who trudge off dutifully to the courthouses, historical >societies, cemeteries, etc, this will hardly affect us at all. Access to >public records will still be free. > >Maybe we need a return to grassroots genealogical research, where people >aren't doing their genealogy in a "drive through" fashion. There are too >many people piggybacking off of the people who are doing the actual work >and research. > >My .02 > >Sherry > >---------- >> From: Joyce Lund <lundway@rockisland.com> >> To: PAJUNIAT-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: BE AWARE! >> Date: Sunday, January 03, 1999 12:45 PM >> >> >> > >> >As we enter this New Year of 1999 I am a bit concerned about the future >of >> >genealogical research on the Internet as we now know it. I am concerned >> >that we could be falling on hard times when it comes to the sharing and >> >FREE exchange of data including our mailing lists, GenConnect Boards, US >> >and World GenWeb and the Archives for these projects, IIGS, and many >other >> >projects run largely by volunteers. >> > >> >The developments over the past few months and years in which Banner Blue >> >AND Parsons were swallowed up by Broderbund, and then Broderbund was >> >swallowed up once again by The Learning Company, who also gobbled up >> >Palladium Interactive (producers of Ultimate Family Tree); and The >> >Learning Company just now being taken over by Mattel--all serve to put >us >> >in the very bad situation in which approximately 85% of the >> >genealogy-related programs and data are falling into the hands of of >this >> >one huge company. In addition Ancestry (another for- profit business) >> >just sold 30% of their company to CMG (a venture capital company) for >> >$10,000,000. This is money on top of the $60/year they get from "tens >of >> >thousands of subscribers" (from the Wall Street Journal). The venture >> >capitalists will be expecting a large return for their investment--which >> >will be paid for by us genealogists. >> > >> >All of this puts both Ancestry and Mattel in a very powerful position of >> >being able to buy datasets of information (thus acquiring exclusive >rights >> >to those datasets) and sell them at inflated prices to the public who >> >believe this is the only way things can be done. This move is already >well >> >under way. The more people paying top dollar for the information either >> >through subscription, or the purchase of CDs, the more money the >powerful >> >for-profit companies will have to again purchase the rights to >additional >> >records and books. >> > >> >The longterm goal of the many volunteer workers, and of RootsWeb which >> >hosts many of the projects, is to provide free access to genealogical >> >information. I know it has the folks at RootsWeb VERY troubled right now >> >that they do not have the resources to stop this avalanche of vital >> >records and publications being purchased and removed from FREE public >> >access for all time. In order to stop the flow of this information into >> >the hands of the large companies it would be necessary for RootsWeb to >> >purchase them and then offer them for free access to all of us on their >> >Web space. They would like very much to accomplish this before it is >> >forever too late to do so. While the access to the information is FREE, >> >it is far from FREE acquiring the rights to the information in the first >> >place. All of the mergers and acquisitions of the past year or so >create >> >a very serious threat to the continuance of genealogical research on the >> >Internet as we now know it and as most of us believe it should be in the >> >future. We are no longer playing on a level playing field. I think >> >everyone needs to give this matter serious thought as we start the New >> >Year. Everyone needs to decide what they want the future of Internet >> >genealogy to be and then support what they feel is the correct approach. >> > >> >We need to examine our goals and what we would LIKE to see for the >future >> >of Internet genealogy. Do we want to see a future where all >genealogical >> >source materials must be bought and paid top dollar for, or would we >> >rather see the information put online at non-subscription Web sites so >> >that future genealogists can access them freely? It may already be too >> >late with the recent mergers and acquisitions creating such large >powerful >> >companies with deep pockets that are very difficult to match on a dollar >> >for dollar basis. I think everyone doing genealogical research on the >> >Internet needs to consider whether they would like to support the >efforts >> >of RootsWeb with a small contribution of $12 (more would be even better) >> >or whether they would like to see the world of the future of genealogy >> >dominated by the large for-profit companies who can sell the same data >> >(and hold exclusive rights to it) at whatever the market will support. > >> >Some serious food for thought for the coming New Year! >> > >> >I will now get off my soapbox and promise not to be so "preachy" again >> >very soon, but I feel this matter is an important one to us all and >today >> >seemed the appropriate time to discuss it with all of you. >> > >> >Happy New Year! >> > >> >Joan M. Young, Administrator >> >Geiger GenConnect Boards >> >Queries: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Geiger >> >Bible Records: >> >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/GeigerBibl >> >Bios: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/GeigerBios >> >Deeds: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/GeigerDeed >> >Obits: >> >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/GeigerObits >> >Pensions: >> >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/GeigerPens >> >Wills: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/GeigerWill >> >Visit The Geiger Connection Webpage: >> >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~geiger/ >> >List Moderator, GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com >> >Editor, The Kiger Kounter newsletter >> >HELP MAINTAIN FREE ACCESS TO GENEALOGICAL INFORMATION ON THE INTERNET IN > >> >1999 >> >BY SUPPORTING ROOTSWEB: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to- >> >subscribe.html/ >> > >> > >> >> >

    01/04/1999 04:07:40
    1. Obit look-up request (Doyle)
    2. Lonnie
    3. Can someone do a obituary look-up for me on a couple of family members? These family members resided in East Waterford area. I am willing to pay for copies and postage!!! Thanks! Lon Doyle Beaston, John Lawrence- d: December 10, 1977 Beaston, Vivian (Doyle)- d: March 18, 1997 Shearer, Herman B.- d: September 18, 1980 Hart, Hugh H.- d: April 9, 1968 Hower, Gerald B.- d: May 7, 1994 Hart, Billy Lee- d: May 31, 1989

    01/04/1999 10:00:28
    1. Re: BE AWARE!
    2. Gordon & Sherry
    3. This is all rather chilling for those who rely on the Internet and the WFT discs and other mailorder genealogy sources to do their genealogy. But for those of us who trudge off dutifully to the courthouses, historical societies, cemeteries, etc, this will hardly affect us at all. Access to public records will still be free. Maybe we need a return to grassroots genealogical research, where people aren't doing their genealogy in a "drive through" fashion. There are too many people piggybacking off of the people who are doing the actual work and research. My .02 Sherry ---------- > From: Joyce Lund <lundway@rockisland.com> > To: PAJUNIAT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: BE AWARE! > Date: Sunday, January 03, 1999 12:45 PM > > > > > >As we enter this New Year of 1999 I am a bit concerned about the future of > >genealogical research on the Internet as we now know it. I am concerned > >that we could be falling on hard times when it comes to the sharing and > >FREE exchange of data including our mailing lists, GenConnect Boards, US > >and World GenWeb and the Archives for these projects, IIGS, and many other > >projects run largely by volunteers. > > > >The developments over the past few months and years in which Banner Blue > >AND Parsons were swallowed up by Broderbund, and then Broderbund was > >swallowed up once again by The Learning Company, who also gobbled up > >Palladium Interactive (producers of Ultimate Family Tree); and The > >Learning Company just now being taken over by Mattel--all serve to put us > >in the very bad situation in which approximately 85% of the > >genealogy-related programs and data are falling into the hands of of this > >one huge company. In addition Ancestry (another for- profit business) > >just sold 30% of their company to CMG (a venture capital company) for > >$10,000,000. This is money on top of the $60/year they get from "tens of > >thousands of subscribers" (from the Wall Street Journal). The venture > >capitalists will be expecting a large return for their investment--which > >will be paid for by us genealogists. > > > >All of this puts both Ancestry and Mattel in a very powerful position of > >being able to buy datasets of information (thus acquiring exclusive rights > >to those datasets) and sell them at inflated prices to the public who > >believe this is the only way things can be done. This move is already well > >under way. The more people paying top dollar for the information either > >through subscription, or the purchase of CDs, the more money the powerful > >for-profit companies will have to again purchase the rights to additional > >records and books. > > > >The longterm goal of the many volunteer workers, and of RootsWeb which > >hosts many of the projects, is to provide free access to genealogical > >information. I know it has the folks at RootsWeb VERY troubled right now > >that they do not have the resources to stop this avalanche of vital > >records and publications being purchased and removed from FREE public > >access for all time. In order to stop the flow of this information into > >the hands of the large companies it would be necessary for RootsWeb to > >purchase them and then offer them for free access to all of us on their > >Web space. They would like very much to accomplish this before it is > >forever too late to do so. While the access to the information is FREE, > >it is far from FREE acquiring the rights to the information in the first > >place. All of the mergers and acquisitions of the past year or so create > >a very serious threat to the continuance of genealogical research on the > >Internet as we now know it and as most of us believe it should be in the > >future. We are no longer playing on a level playing field. I think > >everyone needs to give this matter serious thought as we start the New > >Year. Everyone needs to decide what they want the future of Internet > >genealogy to be and then support what they feel is the correct approach. > > > >We need to examine our goals and what we would LIKE to see for the future > >of Internet genealogy. Do we want to see a future where all genealogical > >source materials must be bought and paid top dollar for, or would we > >rather see the information put online at non-subscription Web sites so > >that future genealogists can access them freely? It may already be too > >late with the recent mergers and acquisitions creating such large powerful > >companies with deep pockets that are very difficult to match on a dollar > >for dollar basis. I think everyone doing genealogical research on the > >Internet needs to consider whether they would like to support the efforts > >of RootsWeb with a small contribution of $12 (more would be even better) > >or whether they would like to see the world of the future of genealogy > >dominated by the large for-profit companies who can sell the same data > >(and hold exclusive rights to it) at whatever the market will support. > >Some serious food for thought for the coming New Year! > > > >I will now get off my soapbox and promise not to be so "preachy" again > >very soon, but I feel this matter is an important one to us all and today > >seemed the appropriate time to discuss it with all of you. > > > >Happy New Year! > > > >Joan M. Young, Administrator > >Geiger GenConnect Boards > >Queries: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Geiger > >Bible Records: > >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/GeigerBibl > >Bios: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/GeigerBios > >Deeds: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/GeigerDeed > >Obits: > >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/GeigerObits > >Pensions: > >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/GeigerPens > >Wills: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/GeigerWill > >Visit The Geiger Connection Webpage: > >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~geiger/ > >List Moderator, GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com > >Editor, The Kiger Kounter newsletter > >HELP MAINTAIN FREE ACCESS TO GENEALOGICAL INFORMATION ON THE INTERNET IN > >1999 > >BY SUPPORTING ROOTSWEB: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to- > >subscribe.html/ > > > > > >

    01/03/1999 03:30:48
    1. BE AWARE!
    2. Joyce Lund
    3. > >As we enter this New Year of 1999 I am a bit concerned about the future of >genealogical research on the Internet as we now know it. I am concerned >that we could be falling on hard times when it comes to the sharing and >FREE exchange of data including our mailing lists, GenConnect Boards, US >and World GenWeb and the Archives for these projects, IIGS, and many other >projects run largely by volunteers. > >The developments over the past few months and years in which Banner Blue >AND Parsons were swallowed up by Broderbund, and then Broderbund was >swallowed up once again by The Learning Company, who also gobbled up >Palladium Interactive (producers of Ultimate Family Tree); and The >Learning Company just now being taken over by Mattel--all serve to put us >in the very bad situation in which approximately 85% of the >genealogy-related programs and data are falling into the hands of of this >one huge company. In addition Ancestry (another for- profit business) >just sold 30% of their company to CMG (a venture capital company) for >$10,000,000. This is money on top of the $60/year they get from "tens of >thousands of subscribers" (from the Wall Street Journal). The venture >capitalists will be expecting a large return for their investment--which >will be paid for by us genealogists. > >All of this puts both Ancestry and Mattel in a very powerful position of >being able to buy datasets of information (thus acquiring exclusive rights >to those datasets) and sell them at inflated prices to the public who >believe this is the only way things can be done. This move is already well >under way. The more people paying top dollar for the information either >through subscription, or the purchase of CDs, the more money the powerful >for-profit companies will have to again purchase the rights to additional >records and books. > >The longterm goal of the many volunteer workers, and of RootsWeb which >hosts many of the projects, is to provide free access to genealogical >information. I know it has the folks at RootsWeb VERY troubled right now >that they do not have the resources to stop this avalanche of vital >records and publications being purchased and removed from FREE public >access for all time. In order to stop the flow of this information into >the hands of the large companies it would be necessary for RootsWeb to >purchase them and then offer them for free access to all of us on their >Web space. They would like very much to accomplish this before it is >forever too late to do so. While the access to the information is FREE, >it is far from FREE acquiring the rights to the information in the first >place. All of the mergers and acquisitions of the past year or so create >a very serious threat to the continuance of genealogical research on the >Internet as we now know it and as most of us believe it should be in the >future. We are no longer playing on a level playing field. I think >everyone needs to give this matter serious thought as we start the New >Year. Everyone needs to decide what they want the future of Internet >genealogy to be and then support what they feel is the correct approach. > >We need to examine our goals and what we would LIKE to see for the future >of Internet genealogy. Do we want to see a future where all genealogical >source materials must be bought and paid top dollar for, or would we >rather see the information put online at non-subscription Web sites so >that future genealogists can access them freely? It may already be too >late with the recent mergers and acquisitions creating such large powerful >companies with deep pockets that are very difficult to match on a dollar >for dollar basis. I think everyone doing genealogical research on the >Internet needs to consider whether they would like to support the efforts >of RootsWeb with a small contribution of $12 (more would be even better) >or whether they would like to see the world of the future of genealogy >dominated by the large for-profit companies who can sell the same data >(and hold exclusive rights to it) at whatever the market will support. >Some serious food for thought for the coming New Year! > >I will now get off my soapbox and promise not to be so "preachy" again >very soon, but I feel this matter is an important one to us all and today >seemed the appropriate time to discuss it with all of you. > >Happy New Year! > >Joan M. Young, Administrator >Geiger GenConnect Boards >Queries: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Geiger >Bible Records: >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/GeigerBibl >Bios: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/GeigerBios >Deeds: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/GeigerDeed >Obits: >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/GeigerObits >Pensions: >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/GeigerPens >Wills: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/GeigerWill >Visit The Geiger Connection Webpage: >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~geiger/ >List Moderator, GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com >Editor, The Kiger Kounter newsletter >HELP MAINTAIN FREE ACCESS TO GENEALOGICAL INFORMATION ON THE INTERNET IN >1999 >BY SUPPORTING ROOTSWEB: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to- >subscribe.html/ > >

    01/03/1999 10:45:56
    1. Re: O'Neals in Juniata/Mifflin Co.
    2. Fred Lauver
    3. Richard, In 1776, that part of Pennsylvania was part of Cumberland County. Next came Mifflin County in 1789, followed by the formation of Juniata Co. in March of 1831. You may need to search records prior to those dates in respective county court houses. Fred Lauver -----Original Message----- From: Richard <rdoneal@earthlink.net> To: PAJUNIAT-L@rootsweb.com <PAJUNIAT-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, December 08, 1998 12:01 PM Subject: O'Neals in Juniata/Mifflin Co. >Hello, > > I'm looking for information on one John O'Neal of what is now Juniata >Co. Pa. He was born approx 1776 in PA, and died 1857. >John had 6 children, 3 boys 3 girls. John's wife's name was Catherine, but >we don't know what her last name was. >The children are as follows; > >Henry O'Neal; 1796-1877, married Rebecca landis, 1839-1915, probably his >second wife > >Susannah O'Neal; lived with her mother until her mother died in 1860, don't >think she ever married. > >Abraham O'Neal; worked as a blacksmith. > >Enos O'Neal; Was married to Isabella Wendt, He worked as a tailor, and was >sheriff in Somerset Co. PA. for a period. > >Mary O'Neal; married one Henry Arendt. > >Samuel O'Neal; Married a Mary ???, he was a carpenter. > >Margaret O'Neal; Married an Orr, first name not known. > > In 1867 Henry and Samuel went to MO. > > We are stuck at John. We can't determine where he came from who his >parents were or if he had any brothers or sisters. > > > > > >Thanks > Richard O'Neal >

    12/25/1998 11:10:36
    1. Juniata Co TWP's
    2. Audrey Sizelove
    3. Have found a John R. Leach who was born in Waterford, Mifflin Co in 1826. What Twp would that be in 1826? Lack Twp? I am assuming that Waterford, Mifflin Co in 1826 would now be East Waterford in Juniata Co. Any other Waterfords in Mifflin Co that any one knows about? Audrey Sizelove 1001-812@msn.com

    12/18/1998 08:58:08
    1. Check out IIGS USA BDM Exchange
    2. <A HREF="http://www.iigs.org/global_village/bdm/usa/index.htm">Click here: IIGS USA BDM Exchange</A> Hi Group A good way to list those "wrong" birth, death, marriage, etc certificates you have for others to see and possibly use. Take care BSKTBTQUE

    12/16/1998 01:08:44
    1. Looking for info.
    2. Marianne
    3. I understand there is a family reunion held every September for the HARTMAN's. Can anyone help me with the dates, place, etc..... Thanks, Marianne Hartman Grande Prairie Alberta Canada

    12/09/1998 09:31:04
    1. My six deadends
    2. m thompson
    3. I am seeking others researching these 1750-1820 families: BRINE/BRIEN/BRION (Berks/Dauph, PA) FRANTZ/FRANZ/FRANCE (Lanc/Dauph, PA) PETERS/PETER (Dauph, PA), RUDY (Lanc/Dauph, PA) SWARTZ/SWARTZ (Juniata/Dauph, PA) UNDERHOLD/TZ (Lanc/N'land, PA) Thanks, Marc ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

    12/09/1998 12:32:17
    1. O'Neals in Juniata/Mifflin Co.
    2. Richard
    3. Hello, I'm looking for information on one John O'Neal of what is now Juniata Co. Pa. He was born approx 1776 in PA, and died 1857. John had 6 children, 3 boys 3 girls. John's wife's name was Catherine, but we don't know what her last name was. The children are as follows; Henry O'Neal; 1796-1877, married Rebecca landis, 1839-1915, probably his second wife Susannah O'Neal; lived with her mother until her mother died in 1860, don't think she ever married. Abraham O'Neal; worked as a blacksmith. Enos O'Neal; Was married to Isabella Wendt, He worked as a tailor, and was sheriff in Somerset Co. PA. for a period. Mary O'Neal; married one Henry Arendt. Samuel O'Neal; Married a Mary ???, he was a carpenter. Margaret O'Neal; Married an Orr, first name not known. In 1867 Henry and Samuel went to MO. We are stuck at John. We can't determine where he came from who his parents were or if he had any brothers or sisters. Thanks Richard O'Neal

    12/08/1998 09:54:37