Hi, I'm new to the list. I'm researching the Yetter surname. Johannes Yetter, wife and son Andrew came to America in 1747 on the ship Restoration. They settled in Mifflin and or Juanita Co. I believe he may have remarried in 1748 to Mary Margaretha Korst. She may also be the wife who came with him. (not sure at this point) Johannes and Mary had three more children, Ludwig born March 1749 and married Margaretha Bader on June 7, 1768, Catherine who married Philip Miller on March 20, 1765, and Samuel born ca 1756 and married Mary Elizabeth Yokum Feb. 12, 1780. My direct line is Andrew who I have no information on till his children who were born possibly in Green Co. (not sure of this) I do know that Andrew and his family are listed in the 1830 census for Green Co. Pa. His wife's name was Catherine. If you have any information on any of this Yetter line please contact me. God Bless, Kathryn Yoder Cowher Williamsport Pa.

Is East Waterford in Lack Township? Does anyone know where I can get a map with the townships outlined? Thank you, Linda

Hello Fellow Listers: Have you ever sat down and actually figured out how many grandparents and ancestors you have??? I often times will ask someone if they truely realize just how many persons it took to "get you"!!!!! Do you know??? This was sent through the Cumberland County, PA. List... > How Many Ancestors Do You Have? > > 1 1 YOU > 2 2 parents > 3 4 grandparents > 4 8 great grandparents > 5 16 gg grandparents > 6 32 ggg grandparents > 7 64 gggg grandparents > 8 128 ggggg grandparents > 9 256 gggggg grandparents > 10 512 ggggggg grandparents > 11 1,024 gggggggg grandparents > 12 2,048 ggggggggg grandparents > 13 4,096 gggggggggg grandparents > 14 8,192 ggggggggggg grandparents > 15 16,184 gggggggggggg grandparents > 16 32,768 ggggggggggggg grandparents > 17 65,536 gggggggggggggg grandparents > 18 131,072 ggggggggggggggg grandparents > 19 262,144 gggggggggggggggg grandparents > 20 524,288 ggggggggggggggggg grandparents > 21 1,048,576 gggggggggggggggggg grandparents > 22 2,097,152 ggggggggggggggggggg grandparents

Hello Fellow Listers: The Juniata County Historical Society is sponsoring a bus trip to the National Archives in Washington, DC on Wednesday, April 19th. The cost is $25.00 per person. Terry Wheeler, a member of the Historical Society is in charge. Money needs to be in Terry's hands by April 4th. If interested - e-mail me at: djzinn@pa.net and I can supply you with more info and the phone numbers for the Juniata County Historical Society or Terry Wheeler. Best Wishes... Donna HELLER ZINN of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA.

Hello Fellow Genealogists and Listers: Below was copied from the Franklin County, PA. List. I only hope that these records were microfilmed prior to this accident! Donna HELLER ZINN of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >From the AOL News section Fire Harms National Archives Files By DEB RIECHMANN .c The Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) - Archivists are using hot air and blotting paper to salvage hundreds of thousands of pages of government records damaged in a fire at a National Archives storage center just outside Washington. Among them were veterans' records and papers connected to a lawsuit over mismanagement of American Indians' money. The fire occurred Tuesday at the Washington National Records Center in Suitland, Md., which stores more than 3.7 million cubic feet of records. Archives officials said 3,000 cubic feet of records were stored in areas where sprinklers activated, but fewer than 300 cubic feet - approximately 700,000 pages - were actually damaged or destroyed. The bulk of the records were from the Department of Veterans Affairs. ``These are inactive files of deceased veterans who previously made claims for benefits,'' said Robert Knode, records officer for the veterans benefits administration. ``Sometimes we recall these files when somebody wants a copy for genealogical or other purposes, but there should be only a minimal effect.'' Another 60 boxes of damaged records were involved in a lawsuit over brought by American Indians charging government mismanagement of a $500 million system of trust accounts for American Indians. The water damage to those records was just the latest problem with documents in the case; other Indian trust records have been inadvertently shredded or found dumped in a trash-strewn shed on a North Dakota reservation. Also damaged were records were from District of Columbia government offices, the Labor Department's Hour and Wage Division and the U.S. Patent and Trademark office. The patent and trademark records were scheduled for disposal. ``We regret the loss of a single page, but we're not sure yet what the loss is,'' said Gerald George, communications director for the archives. ``We have some record damage and we regret that, but on the other hand, our fire system contained the fire so that it didn't do widespread damage.'' Conservation work is under way. Warm, dry air is being blown into the storage stacks and blotting paper is being used to extract moisture from pages, said Susan Cooper, a spokeswoman for the archives. Drying chambers have been set up and refrigerated trucks are being used to store records that are very wet. ``They keep the records cold to prevent mildew from forming on them,'' she said. AP-NY-03-02-00 1824EST Copyright 2000 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press. All active hyperlinks have been inserted by AOL.

This inquiry response came today directly from NARA in regard to proposed fee increases. I'm posting this on Juniata, Blair and Huntingdon, PA, groups. Please pass around to other groups where you've seen this discussion. Thanks. Fred Lauver >The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) will be issuing a proposed rule within the next few weeks that will revise fees for reproduction, including the "fixed-fee" orders in the NATF 80 series. The proposed rule will have a 60-day public comment period, during which time we will actively seek the comments of the user community. The proposed rule is presently undergoing internal government review. When it is released for publication in the Federal Register, NARA will notify the national genealogical organizations and post a copy of the proposed rule on its web site. The message will include the exact URL and the address for sending comments.

I received this from another surname list. I think it's a great idea also: Subject: [KOPP] Fw: [NYCAYUGA] Geneology Stamp Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 20:17:26 -0500 From: "Bob Grace" To: KOPP-L@rootsweb.com > From: "Barbra T. Grim" <pbtg@visuallink.com> > To: NYULSTER-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 19:34:21 -0200 > Subject: Geneology Stamp > > from the St. Lawrence Valley Genealogical Society (SLVGS) News, Fall > 1999: > > "The U. S. Postal Service has never had a stamp promoting family > history research, yet genealogy is America's most popular hobby. If you > would like to see a stamp honoring genealogy, contact the U. S. Postal > Service, 476 L'Enfant Plaza, SW, Room 4474B, Washington, DC 20260-6756, > OR > e-mail them at: <customeremail@usps.gov> You might consider posting this > > on other lists to which you subscribe.

http://www.usnewswire.com/topnews/Current_Releases/0301-131.html National Archives Statement on Records Center Fire U.S. Newswire 1 Mar 15:39 National Archives and Records Administration Statement on Records Center Fire To: National Desk Contact: National Archives Public Affairs, 301-713-6000 WASHINGTON, March 1, /U.S. Newswire/ -- The following is a statement from John W. Carlin, archivist of the United States, on the Feb. 29 Records Center Fire: Yesterday (Tuesday, Feb. 29), the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) reported a fire in its Washington National Records Center in Suitland, Md. The fire was contained by the Center's fire-safety system and extinguished with no reports of harm to staff or visitors, but some records were damaged. The following is an update on that from Archivist of the United States John Carlin. Although much work will be needed before we can be certain, we believe that of the total of more than 3.7 million cubic feet of records at Suitland, approximately 3,000 cubic feet were in the immediate area. Of those, fewer than 300 cubic feet may have been destroyed. Most of the affected records were wet or damp from sprinkler water or in singed boxes. Our staff at Suitland stayed up through last night making valiant efforts to protect records from water damage and otherwise dealing with the fire's effects, working with personnel from the General Services Administration, from which we lease the facility. The cause of the fire is as yet undetermined. Because the property is Federal, the FBI and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms as well as GSA fire investigators were notified. As the investigation continues, the following is what we know about the fire so far. The sprinkler alarms were activated at 2:30 p.m. Tuesday, and alerted the GSA Control Center that there was a problem. The first fire company arrived sometime between 2:45 and 2:50. A fireman on the scene was overcome with smoke at which point firemen abandoned Stack 15 to open the roof hatches to vent the smoke. This process apparently took approximately one hour to accomplish before the firemen returned to Stack 15 to begin to extinguish the fire. The sprinkler system contained the fire during the period between 2:30 and 3:50 at which point the firemen were able to enter the stack. At 8:13 p.m. the firemen on the scene felt that the fire was sufficiently extinguished to allow the investigation to begin in the stack. Our tracking system enabled us to identify the records on the shelves affected by the fire, and agencies whose records may have been affected have been notified. But we won't be able to identify exactly which records have been affected and how seriously until the investigation of the area is completed and we can examine the materials more closely. I will provide further information as it becomes available. ------ For further information, contact the National Archives public affairs staff at 301-713-6000. -0- /U.S. Newswire 202-347-2770/ 03/01 15:39 Copyright 2000, U.S. Newswire

Bashak@aol.com wrote: > > Looking for inforamtaion and/or descendants of James DUNN [b.c. 1790 PA-d. > Sept 12, 1868] married 1st Mary [b.c. 1792-d. May 23, 1830, maiden name > unknown], 2nd Elizabeth [b.c.1796], 3rd Margaret [widow of Mr. Riddle,maiden > name unknown]. James & Mary are buried at Lost Creek Pres. Cemetery, Juniata > Co., PA. Parents of James were Richard & Esther DUNN of Greenwood, Mifflin > [now Juniata] Co., PA. ///////////////////////////////////////////// Barb, It might help your research to know that the "Greenwood" you mention is a township, not a town. Also, it might help to know that Greenwood Twp. was formed in 1767 while a part of Cumberland Co.; and this township came into Mifflin Co. in 1789, and into Juniata Co. in 1831. All the best, Nelson

Looking for inforamtaion and/or descendants of James DUNN [b.c. 1790 PA-d. Sept 12, 1868] married 1st Mary [b.c. 1792-d. May 23, 1830, maiden name unknown], 2nd Elizabeth [b.c.1796], 3rd Margaret [widow of Mr. Riddle,maiden name unknown]. James & Mary are buried at Lost Creek Pres. Cemetery, Juniata Co., PA. Parents of James were Richard & Esther DUNN of Greenwood, Mifflin [now Juniata] Co., PA. Children of Jameswere: 1. William [d.May 5, 1887 age 76yrs, 6mo] married Juliann HILDEBRAND. 2. Eli possibly married Martha VANORMER. 3. Thomas [b.c.1826] married Elvina COLTRIDER. 4. Amos. 5. Elizabeth [b. Feb 24, 1828-d. July 16, 1874] married Peter BURRIS [my line]. 6. Epraim [b. May 23, 1830-d. Sept 14, 1892] marreid Esther or Hester [maiden name unknown]. 7. Catherine [b.c. 1832]. 8. Jonah [b.c.1835-d. Nov 20, 1902] married Mary A. PEIFFER. Any info will be appreciated. Will share info. Barb Kelley in ST. Petersburg, FL [Bashak@aol.com]

Hello all. I'm searching for information regarding the CORNELIUS family. My GGG Grandfather, Abraham Cornelius was born in Mifflin County 12/28/1839. It is said that his parents were from the Juniata River Valley. When he was 3, his parents as well as some of his brothers and sisters sucumbed to the Black Plague. He and his surviving siblings, were raised by whomever would take them in. My Abraham was raised by the Jacob HOLLEN family of Cambria County. What can you tell me about the Black Plague? Were there obituaries written during that time? Any suggestions as to how I can find more information? Any help at all would be greatly appreciated. Beth Johnson Spanaway, Washington

Howdy folks from Iowa! I am in the process of researching a real Genealogical find for me on the web. The Flickinger Family History is available online(if you have a membership) at GeneaologyLibrary.com . I am currently researching: WIEMER, KOONS,MCCULLOCH and HART. That is just a start to be quiet honest And also looking for info on the KILMER,MCMEEN and RITZMAN surnames. Have plenty to Post,but primarily I decsend from John Kuntz through George Kuntz to his son John Koons md. Elizabeth Kepner... If by chance this same family is a part of your line would love to correspond and also looking for anyone who can verify the Wiemer surname. My father recalls having met some of the family many years ago.. the name that comes to mind is Aunt Bessie and her daughter Jane. Traci

Hello fellow genealogists and listers: The Perry Historians, a genealogical society located near New Bloomfield, Perry Co., PA. is hosting a FREE Genealogical Workshop at the Perry County Courthouse and at their library on Saturday, March 18, 2000 from 9:00 a.m. until 5:00 p.m.. The first leg of the workshop will be held at the Courthouse beginning at 9:00 a.m. until about 12:00 p.m.. There will be a 1 hour lunchbreak [on your own] and then we will continue at the Perry Historians/Lenig Library for the remainder of the day. If you are just beginning your family research or want to learn more about what great resources there are at the County Courthouses, this is a great way to get the inside scoup FREE of charge. If you have any further questions about the workshop or The Perry Historians please feel free to contact me at: djzinn@pa.net Best Wishes on your family quest... Donna HELLER ZINN of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA. Member/Volunteer/Researcher/Director of the Perry Historians

Hello Fellow Listers: The address below was sent to me personally concerning the query that was placed on the Franklin Co., PA. List requesting info on an orphanage. From what I seen, the list deals mainly with Allegheny County but states that it has info on orphanages from counties surrounding Allegheny... Don't know for sure, as I haven't checked out all of the list. Hope this will be of help to someone out there... Thanks to the person who sent it to me! Appreciate it! Best Wishes to all on your family quest... Donna HELLER ZINN of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA. http://www.clpgh.org/clp/Pennsylvania/pastaff/ai/orphan.html

Hello Fellow Listers: You will find below a mailing that I received recently concerning my posting of the "IOWA Records Closing". Since I received this, I feel I should probably explain why I am concerned about this possibility and have copied the correspondence that I sent back to a fellow lister. My apologies to the lists for posting the original mailing if you feel this is not related to genealogy whether it be for Pennsylvania Lists or not. Sincerely, Donna HELLER ZINN of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hi Arlene: The reason why I placed that posting on the PA County Lists was that several of my ancestors and relatives went West and several settled in IOWA. If you read up on some of the histories of some of the Nation's Western towns and villages you will find that many were settled and established by Pennsylvanians. These Pennsylvanians were encouraged to leave their hometowns and relatives here and "go west" to establish "colonies" there. Also if there is a possibility of the Vital Records closing in that or any other state... then sooner or later it may "come to" your state or mine, Pennsylvania. Best Wishes on your family quest... Donna HELLER ZINN of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA. *********************** Arlene Gemmill wrote: > > Donna - > > With all due respect, I subscribe to PENNSYLVANIA genealogy lists - a > dozen at least - to learn about PENNSYLVANIA. I got r-e-a-l-l-y tired > of hearing about IOWA about the third posting about a long week ago. > > Please. Cease and Desist. > > Arlene

Hello Again Fellow Listers: Below is a posting that was sent through the Franklin Co. PA. List. I am sending it on to several other lists in hopes that someone out there may know something of this person or family. I did take notice that the doctor who signed the birth certificate is Dr. HOOVER who I believe was originally from Wrightsville, York Co., PA. Best Wishes... Donna HELLER ZINN of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA. *************************************** Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:20:11 EST From: Blumoo8133@aol.com To: PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com Hope someone can help me with this one, I am looking for the Parents or Parent who put their son DAVID EDWARD PATTERSON in the Orphanage (Called Children's Home?) in Chambersberg, Franklin County, PA. I am new too this list and am not well versed on Pa. I am hoping someone could direct me to the proper place too help find the Parents of DAVID PATTERSON. This is what I do have. Birth Cert says the following: DAVID EDWARD PATTERSON b Dec 22, 1910 Twp, Washington, Borough, Rou__Ville? Franklin County Pa. Listed as his Parents are: CLEVELAND PROVARD age 22 birth place Pa. Trade Mason GRACE PATTERSON age 18 birth place Rou_ _ Ville? (looks like the letters are z e. Trade House Maid. DAVID had his Mothers Name not his fathers, CLEVELAND and GRACE were not married. Dr signed birth cert as Hoover. M. D DAVID does not know who old he was when he came to the Orphanage, he is sure he was an infant, his first memory of it was when he was 2-3, Is there a history about this Orphanage? Is it up on a web site in Pa? Or someone who would be well versed on the Subject? DAVID will be 90 this year and never knew the names of his Parents until Last night. He wants too find his family if he has any, he has a sharp mind and remembers everything about the home the wardens (who took care of them, etc.) He also said that there was a Cemetery across the street from the Orphanage. This wonderful person has so much too tell. If anyone can help me in this quest too find DAVID'S family please email me. I will take any suggestions, etc. Oh and can someone direct me too a place too get a map of the County of Franklin and surrounding counties? I cant tell you how grateful I am. Stacy.

Hi Fellow Listers: I normally do not send "jokes" through the list, but this one seems to tie into genealogy somewhat. There is no intention on my behalf to be disrespectful to the Irish... as I am also part-Irish and have ancestors by the name of DALRYMPLE. Enjoy... Donna HELLER ZINN of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA. ****************************** The Mile Marker Three Irishmen, Paddy, Sean and Shamus, were stumbling home late one night and found themselves on the road which led past the old graveyard. "Come have a look over here", says Paddy, "It's Michael O'Grady's grave, God bless his soul, he lived to the ripe old age of 87." "That's nothing", says Sean, "here's one named Patrick O'Toole. It says here that he was 95 when he died." Just then, Shamus yells out, "But here's a fella that died when he was 145 years old!" "What was his name?" asks Paddy. Shamus lights a match to see what else is written on the stone marker, and exclaims, "Miles, from Dublin." =================================================== Get the FunnyMailer FREE in your inbox every day! Sign up at http://www.funnymail.com/lists/ or send a blank email to: join-funnymailer@lists.funnymail.com

Hello Fellow Listers: I am forwarding this note that was posted on the Snyder Co., PA. List in answer to a posting that I had previously sent about Vital Records being possibly closed to the public. I have had several personal replies since the original was sent, about a week ago. Several were informing me that they thought it was a hoax while others thought the opposite. I have copied and pasted what you will read below. Best Wishes... Donna HELLER ZINN of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA. ************************************** Listers: The question has been raised about Iowa records being closed. If you go to our GenWeb page for Iowa at... http://www.rootsweb.com/~iagenweb/index.htm ...you can read the following information. URGENT! IOWA BIRTH RECORDS TO BE CLOSED The Iowa State Department of Health, Vital Records Division, would like to see all birth records less than 95 years old closed to the public at the county level and have drafted a bill to this effect to be taken up by the legislature. According to Larry Coghlan of the Vital Records Dept., "The proposal is to make birth certificates 95 years old and older available for inspection and copying at the county level. The rest of the birth certificates would require a direct and tangible interest to obtain a copy. It is being proposed because of the identity theft (fraud) that has been taking place throughout the United States." This proposal raises a number of questions: Is it really necessary to close 95 years of records to address this problem? How will moving the records from the county level to the state level make it any more (or less) difficult for people interested in committing fraud? How will they define "direct and tangible interest"? Will state employees have the time and inclination to REALLY search the records for your ancestor, or will they keep the money and say "Not Found!" when the record is not exactly where it should be but just a few lines or pages away? Can they take the time to search for possible misspellings or decipher illegible handwriting? If ISDH gets this passed for birth records will all the other records follow suit? Is this an ill-conceived plan to punish the innocent (genealogists and others who need access to these records) instead of the guilty (those who commit fraud)? We need to ask questions now. If you cherish your right to have all your county records available at your county courthouse, speak up. WRITE. CALL. EMAIL. your county officials, state representatives and Governor Vilsack. If you don't speak up now, it might be too late. I'm afraid it is true. You can follow the links to contact the Honorable Governor Vilsack from the above named GenWeb page. Any help would be appreciated! Bill Rathbun Fairfield, Iowa billrath@kdsi.net

Hello Fellow Listers: Below is a copy of what was just sent to me from the Blair County, PA. List. If this is not legitimate please forgive... But if it is... I think this is something that we need to really look into! Concerned... Donna HELLER ZINN of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA. ****************** Subject: Fwd: Help keep Iowa records open. In a message dated 1/25/00 3:35:01 PM, Pmauer writes: The State of Iowa is considering closing their records to the public. This has already been done in the State of Illinois where you have to rely on someone in the courthouse to look things up for you for a fee of $2.00 and if you want a copy, that is $8.00 more. Many of the people from the East went to Iowa and you may need to obtain some of their records, if not now, in the future. Even if you are not an Iowa resident, please be part of the numbers to be heard about how important it is to have these available. Send an email to keith_weigel@legis.state.ia.us and betty_soupkup@legis.state.ia.us Please forward this message to: 1) as many people you know who reside in Iowa 2) as many genealogical societies as you know 3) as many other organizations whose voices might make a difference 4) everyone you know who are involved in genealogy and history research

Hello Fellow Listers: Below is what was sent to me and the Franklin Co., PA. List pertaining to the "2000 Census Suggestion" that I sent through earlier this week. This is a very, very, good idea as well!!!! Thanks Gayle for sharing the hint! Best Wishes to all! Donna HELLER ZINN of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA. ***************************************** > We are hearing reminders about saving a copy of our census form--a good > idea, but as genealogists, the information our families want to know is > already going to be available, but the real thing we need to be concerned > about is giving as much information as possible. > > That means women include your maiden name as part of your name. Mary Smith > Schultz > If they ask for birth or marriage year, include month as well. Feb 1945 > If they ask for birth place don't say MO, say Osceola, St. Clair Co, MO. > If you have twins, indicate it near their name. Mary (twin) Susie (twin) > Under occupation write the normal one, and also include genealogist > teacher/genealogist > > Look it over, you will get the idea. Give them "more not less" >