Here are some more obits. I hope they will help someone. I don't have the name of the paper. Deb TRUESON, MACKINA, 34 years of age died May 9, 1901 and will be buried May 10, 1901 in Wildwood Cemetery. TRENOR, ROSEY, 9y, 10m, 10d born in Anita died May 4, 1902 in Anita from liver trouble. She will be buried in Anita on May 6, 1902 and is the daughter of JOSEPH and NEMCON TRENOR. TIPPENS, GEORGE, 14y, 8m, 18d, born in Calidona. He died 2 days after an injury in a mine on October 31, 1904 in Eleanora and will be buried in Desire on November 3, 1904. He is the son of ROBERT and ANNA TIPPENS.

My surnames are; Cochran, Rodgers, Geer, Gano, Manners, ConferShields, Jamison, Reynolds, and Watson. Some of my collateral names are; Keller, McCormick, McAnnich, Burkett, Pifer, Stiver, Miller, Moore, Bullers, Greeley, Oaks, Reed, Vasbinder,Geist and many more. Dorrie KS

Here are three useful tools that I use a lot. I hope that it will help you out as well. Deb <A HREF="http://www.bakery.co.uk/datecalc.html">Date Calculator - An aid for Family Historians</A> http://www.bakery.co.uk/datecalc.html <A HREF="http://www.islandnet.com/~vgs/tools/birthdate.html">VGS Birthdate Calculator</A> http://www.islandnet.com/~vgs/tools/birthdate.html <A HREF="http://www.grl.com/grl/relationship.shtml">Relationship Chart</A> http://www.grl.com/grl/relationship.shtml

I agree with Merle, there are a lot of LIARS (I can name one) out there who say they are your family, but are not. You have to take what they give you with a grain of salt. Some claim that they will work with you then they turn around and accuse you of giving wrong information when they are mistakes, they even go as far as to try and ruin your relationship with your family because they think they are better than everyone else (little do they know they are the laughing stock and people call them CRAZY), that they have all the answers and that they KNOW EVERYTHING, when in fact they know very little. They are not willing to help out people, but are always asking for help from someone. "Please look this up Please look that up," but are not willing to do look ups for anyone else when they have the access to everything! I had a bad experience with a LEACH, that keep asking me to spend HUNDREDS of dollars, not a few, to go to this historical society or the Archives. I'm not made of money, but I do share what I have and I've always mailed out my documents to anyone who asked, free of charge. I spend my money when need be, at cemeteries, or for look ups etc. But I'm not going to spend that kind of money on someone else's whim. Thank goodness we can learn from our errors and move on and not try to sabotage other people like I know some do. I'm off my soap box to get ready to do some TRUE genealogy work, not pretend to be all wise and know all and not share. At least I'll admit when I need help and I'll ask for it. I've had a lot of TRUE genealogist who are wanting to help. That is what genealogy is all about sharing information and helping out your fellow genealogist. I try to help out whenever I can. Now lets get to some real business and stop wasting everyone else's time! Who's with me??? Deb

Here are some more obits. I hope that these are doing someone some good. I don't know what paper they are from, It was a paper from the Reynoldsville area. Deb THOMAS, DAVID T., 70y 10m born in Wales died April 24, 1904 instantly of heart failure, he was a coal miner in Reynoldsville. He will be buried at the Circle Hill Cemetery on April 26, 1904. He was the son of THOMAS and ANNA THOMAS. TATE, ESTER RUTH, 1y 6d, born in Big Run, died September 18, 1904 in Big Run. She died of Colera infantom after being sick for 4 weeks. She will be buried in Bellefonte, Pa on September 20, 1904. She is the daughter of RICHARD G. and AGNES TATE. TOST, ANNIE, 55y 5m born in Germany, she was a housekeeping Dutch Town, died March 31, 1905 of consumption. She will be buried April 3, 1905 in Reynoldsville.

Dear Gerry: I am interested in finding out where you got the three books by Daniel CAYLOR on his family as I have CAYLORs married into RAYBUCKs. I have data obtained from the "History of Jefferson County, PA" published by the Historical Society but didn't know about the three books. Do you know if they can be purchased anywhere? I have other lines that intersect with the CAYLOR one if you are interested. Thanks, Pat Bennett ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 11:34 AM Subject: Re: Joseph Maier Obit > This message is in response to Leasa ([email protected]), > > Leasa, I have 3 books by Daniel Paul Caylor. on the "Caylor's", > One book is > "Daniel Knisely Barnett, & Rachel (Stahlman) Shaffer" > > Some of the surnames I am researching from the Jefferson, Clarion area > are: > > Stahlman, McKinley, Rhodes, Paul, Simpson, Haugh, Fleming, Butler, > Packer, Rose just to mane a few direct ancestors. I also have a lot of > Shaffer's, Dinger's, etc. > I think I must be related to almost every one in the area.... > Hope to hear from you soon. > > Gerry in Phoenix, AZ > > > ==== PAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Send Messages for the Jefferson County PA discussion list to [email protected] >

Hi All, I belong to several mailing lists. Two of them for Jefferson County one in PA the other in KS, surname lists,state lists etc. I finally had to set up a separate screen name just for genealogy. In fact I have 6 screen names. Each one is special to me. Recipes, on-line shopping, jokes etc. It really helps me to keep track of my on-line research. Try it you might like it. Just my 2-cents. Happy Hunting Linda

The response to the roll call has been great, especially because this list is normally very quiet, though very helpful and friendly. Therefore, I'd like to suggest a new topic: The importance of documentation. Please bear with me as I tell you my horror story........ When I began researching my family just a year and a half ago, I went onto an internet message board and found two other people researching the same family. I was thrilled! The three of us began e-mailing frequently. One woman, not in my direct line, said she had been researching the family for 20 years, and promised to send the other woman and I a ton of documents. I had two huge resources: the nearby public library which had all the censuses and city directories for Philadelphia where most of my our ancestors were from, and a trip to Philly during which I found information that she had not found in 20 years, specifically, our original grandmother in this country, and one of her children that this woman had not known about. I was soon spending a full day each week at the library, coming home with a ton of information, every bit of which I copied and sent on to my newfound "cousin." Meanwhile, nothing was coming from her. Her excuses were that whe was busy, ill, didn't have a car, but mostly that she had no money to copy and mail the documents. Eventually she sent a few things, totalling less than $5 cost to her, then asked me to help read and interpret what she had sent. Soon after she asked me to send her all of my data which is in outline form. She also asked the 3rd "cousin" to do the same. Then she put our information into her format and e-mailed it back to us for editing. We each edited her work several times. The spelling and grammar mistakes were astounding, but mostly they were just careless mistakes. Eventually, she had both lines correct and offered to mail the 3rd cousin and I each other's information. By this time I started to find discrepancies in what she told me. For example, she said she had sent for military records, then said she sent for the forms to order them, but she had posted an internet message 3 years before saying she already had the records. There's lots more, but here's the punchline: The 3rd cousin and I soon found that our e-mail conversations weren't making sense in light of the information the other cousin had sent us, so we exchanged our own information. To our shock we discovered that we had been sent information that was totally distorted! Since we had edited the other cousin's work and knew that it was correct, this had to be deliberate. My mother was listed as the daughter of her aunt and my grandfather had no children. The maiden names of all women who had married into the family had been deleted. Her motivation? Only her pschiatrist could guess!! As it turned out, some angel was sitting on my shoulder when I began researching and next to every fact I listed, I also listed the source and had document copies for everything. Therefore I was easily able to correct my data by just eliminating everything that this person had told me. In those days I had maybe 20 pages of data, but now have 10 times that. Where would I be if I discovered this now? My point is to encourage everyone to document every single thing. We all know how costly this hobby/obsession can be, but it is well worth the cost to ensure that our data is accurate, particularly if we plan to write a book at any time. Best of luck to all. Merle

Hi Darla and List. I see you have PLYLER in your roots. We need to talk!! Have a look at my web site, if you will please. After that I have some info to share with you that lacks confirmation, and is therefore not generally available (at least on my site). Trying to find my missing link to John Bleiler who arrived in PA in 1727. Talk about your brick walls. I've been trying to find the one generation for 15 years. Love to hear from you. Al Plyler http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~plylerfamily

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I forgot about these names... DUFFY....?>Allegheny cty..married into BYRNES family BEAMAN...? VARNER....Jefferson cty.Pa...married into the HAMPSON family I am currently completing 2 cemetery transcriptions in McCalmont township Jefferson county,the Anita Community Cemetery and the Anita/Adrian Roman Catholic Cemetery. I have completed the Knights of Pythias Cemetery and it is online at Pa-rootsweb.com. If anyone has surnames with McCalmont township connections,you can contact me off list. thanks Marianne Fisher Wazelle Reynoldsville Pa. [email protected] "Volunteer of Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness" at http:raogk.rootsweb.com for Jefferson county,PennsylvaniaGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Hi: I'm one of those new people. My dad's family is from Canonsburg, Washington County, but most of his father's ancestors, brothers and sisters moved back to/lived in Jefferson County. Two Thompson sisters married two Kelso brothers. I hit the goldmine when I found the Tombstone Hoppin book. Great job. Bobbi

Which line of salsgiver do you have? Thank you Mark

I can't find anything in my records with your surnames. I'm sorry. Deb

I have this information on the SHICK family from Ringgold. I hope that it will help. Deb JOHN MOTTERN, 35y born in Northumberland County a farmer in Worthville, son of JOHN and REBECCA MOTTERN married SARAH E. SHICK 19y spinster born in Ringgold, daughter of GOERGE and HANNAH SHICK by W. H. YODER Justice of the Piece on March 20, 1890.

Dear Darla, 1 - I have Harvey Rhodes OZMUN, b 1879 (POB and parents' names still unknown), d Nov 1961, buried Brookville Cemetery, married Maude Sronia DARRAH on 24 Apr 1901 at the Methodist Church parsonage in Brookville. They had one child, a son, Darrah OZMUN, b 1902, d 1903. 2 - I'm working on the SHICK-GEARHART line in Ringgold Twp., sons of David GEARHART and Lavina PARSONS (sons born in the 1850-1865 time frame) and all married, in Cass Co., MI, daughters of William S(C)HICK and Mary HARTRANFT. 3 - I'm also looking for a David COCHRAN, who married Susan MASON HALL sometime after Susan's first husband died in 1835. Keeping my fingers crossed!! Lorrie Darrah Griffin - [email protected]

Hi I have a Elsy Deemer who married a H. F. Schuckers and a Dora G. Deemer 1878- 12-21-1955 married a William Peter Uplinger Anything on these folks? Thank you Mark Cragle Florida

Tidioute is in Warren County, PA. [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 8:49 AM Subject: Re: research > Don't know of a connection. Sorry. BTW, where is Tidioute, PA? What County? > > > ==== PAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Visit the Jefferson County Genealogy Project by clicking below: > http://www.pa-roots.com/~jefferson/ >

I am working on the Mays family -- Elizabeth & James Mays -- who last lived in Crawford County, PA. [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: Eileen Irwin <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 2:51 AM Subject: MAYS MAIZE MAZE > Karen: > > Which MAYS/MAIZE family are you researching? I have some MAZE information from > Jefferson and Forest Cos. > > Eileen Irwin > Mesa, AZ > > Karen Semencar wrote: > > > > Some of the names I have a realtionship in my ancestory in Jefferson > > County are: Best, Cornmesser, Syphrit, Deemer, Beam, Smith, Shaffer, > > Culp, Yohe, Sykes, Mays or Maize, Dickey, Moore, Straightwell,Rhoades or > > Rhodes or Rhoad (this name is spelled differently by many family > > members, Howlett and many more through marriage.I am trying to post some > > of the documents on the site but it is taking me a while. I have some > > marriages started and much more to go. Counties I find these families > > from include Westmoreland, Clearfield, Centre, Northampton, Bucks, > > Armstrong. I have found them moving to such places as Illinois, > > California, Kansas, Oregon and many others. Most came from the Eastern > > part of Pa to Westmoreland which was considered the west at that time. > > Documentation shows many on the same ships, churches, cemeteries and > > other early documents. > > Thank You > > Karen > > Western Pa > > > > ==== PAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > > You can unsubscribe by clicking below for the regular list: > > mailto:[email protected] > > Click below for the digest list: > > mailto:[email protected] > > In the BODY include only one word: unsubscribe > > (Please turn OFF your signature file when sending the message) > > ---------------------------------------------------- > NetZero Platinum > Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! > http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinum&refcd=PT97 > > > ==== PAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Send Messages for the Jefferson County PA discussion list to [email protected] >

Curious if these surnames are from the same families. In the Temple Cemetery in Hazen there are BOWERS.... also BOWER (i.e., Mary Jane Bower was married to Franklin Pierce Snyder - the TALL monument in the cemetery). These Snyders were my great-great-grandparents, and I'm trying to connect Mary Jane Bower with HER lineage. Thanks.