Alice..Sorry I should have read all my email first..Hello Nate...Karen Nathan Zipfel wrote: > Hi all, > > Sorry I've been absent from the list the past week or so. I need to remind > you all that my "rules" for the list are very simple. They are: > > 1 - Please stay on topic. This list is for discussion of Jefferson County > Genealogy. If your message is not directly related to that then send a > private e-mail message. > > 2 - Do NOT FLAME (send argumentative or critical messages) people on the > list. If you get FLAMED, do NOT respond via the list! > > Please lets get back to the purpose of this list. Individuals who continue > to violate the "rules" will be unsubscribed. > > Thanks > > Nate > > Nathan Zipfel > Jefferson County Genealogy Project Co-Host > http://www.pa-roots.com/~jefferson/ > > ==== PAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Send Messages for the Jefferson County PA discussion list to [email protected]

Opps ...I forgot we are to send private inquiries privately. Sorry guys just got typing to fast...Karen [email protected] wrote: > Interesting that someone who criticizes others doesnt have the guts to sign > the post. > > Jackie Hildebrand Rosen > > Researching Hildebrand, Vandervort, Shaffer, Scott, Fleming, Jones, Mullica > > ==== PAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > To contact Nate Zipfel, Listmister, click below: > mailto:[email protected] > remember, Please share Genealogy with future generations....

Jackie, I notice you have Shaffer and Vandevort...Do you have any Fink information?..Thanks ...Karen [email protected] wrote: > Interesting that someone who criticizes others doesnt have the guts to sign > the post. > > Jackie Hildebrand Rosen > > Researching Hildebrand, Vandervort, Shaffer, Scott, Fleming, Jones, Mullica > > ==== PAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > To contact Nate Zipfel, Listmister, click below: > mailto:[email protected] > remember, Please share Genealogy with future generations....

I am interested in Lyons on a side lineage so I will be curious to find more too....Karen CRWARW wrote: > Hello List: > > Does anyone have more info on James Lyons.??? My daughter in law is a > Lyon and somee family members used Lyons. Her Grandfather is James > Arthur Lyon and Her father is J.A. the second and her brother is JA the > 3rd and his little son is JA the 4th.....I believe them originated from > Lyon France and supposedly the name started out as Courier Lyon..... > Thanks in advance for any help...Cassandra Grubb Wilt > > http://community.webtv.net/crwarw/InLovingMemoryof > > ==== PAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > You can unsubscribe by clicking below for the regular list: > mailto:[email protected] > Click below for the digest list: > mailto:[email protected] > In the BODY include only one word: unsubscribe > (Please turn OFF your signature file when sending the message)

Fine with me..I am all ears!...Karen [email protected] wrote: > The question of reason for migration was the original issue. Both Eileen and > Mac have pointed out the uselessness of asking the list this question in > reference to a specific ancestor, though wanting to know why people in > general migrated to an area seems valid. > > Enter Mac and his anecdote re the issue. His point was valid, i.e. people > migrant for any one of a zillion reasons. The only public objection to his > story was from the list > administrator who said it was not geneological, then proceeded to tell her > own, albeit much shorter, story. Note that this objection was public. Mac > then objected publicly in response, which I'm afraid seems only right. If > the administrator wants to correct privately then the response should be > private, but one cannot expect a public rebuke to be acceptable then deny the > rebuked one the right to respond publicly. > > People, people, people!!!! This list hasn't averaged 2 e-mails a day for the > last year and a half!!! To be honest, my Jefferson County line is virtually > done, but I subscribed to this list to learn something about Jefferson County > and maybe pick up a few odds and ends. Do you know what I've gotten in all > this time? A referral to Pat Steele (and G-d bless her!!), which I could > have gotten from my local library. If I had had to bet, I would have guessed > that there were no more than a few subscribers and was surprised from the > roll call to learn how many people are on this list. So, folks, we've got > what? 50? 100? people subscribed and we can go weeks without a single > message. I'm on a bunch of lists and nothing compares to this lack of > involvement. Then someone tries to perk things up and we're going to start > quibbling over what is geneology? Good grief!! Could this be any more > ridiculous? > > Alice is nice enough to give her time but can't shut someone else up and then > talk about the same thing. Sorry, but she's an administrator, not the queen. > And if she thinks clipping and saving obits about people who are connected to > no one is more interesting than "stories" then what can I say? As for the > obits, Deb is pretty amazing to have the time to access the Internet 18 > separate times in one day to post obits about strangers instead of posting > one list of names and waiting to hear from people who need them. And was > that tirade geneological? What's up with the > "Who's with me" Che Guevarra? > > NOW, here's a free offer (and a geneological topic, though not about > Jefferson County): My main research work is in Philly. I'm currently going > through death indexes from 1887-1889. The surnames are clumped by 1st > letter, though not alphabetical. You find the surname, first name, and a > page number. Then you need the microfilms for the actual death registrations > and you look up the page, then the name. The info given includes age, date of > death, cause, parents (if a child), address, cemetery. If anyone would like > a look-up in the index only, write to me off the list. > > Now let's play nice. > Merle > > ==== PAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Send Messages for the Jefferson County PA discussion list to [email protected]

Thank you for the response. I am putting obits and other things on the site now...Alice where is Nate? Is he still here? I share the Yohe lineage with you. Hope you are progressing better than me....Karen Alice Gayley wrote: > Hi Karen, > > Yes, the obits are being collected, and eventually will be added to the > Obituary Query Board on the Jefferson County site. > > The board is located at: > http://www.pa-roots.com/cgi-bin/data/jeffersonobit.cgi > > If you have any you'd like to add to the boards, please do so. > > Alice > > Karen Semencar wrote: > > > > Isn't there a place on the Jefferson County GenWeb for obits to be put in? Maybe > > that would solve everyones problems... > > ==== PAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Send Messages for the Jefferson County PA discussion list to [email protected]

I have a WWI draft registration that list the person's employer as the Jefferson Electric Company. Was this an early electric generator and predecessor company of Penelec and GPU? Thanks Nick Anderson

DuBois Courier 6/20/1942 Mrs. RAYMOND RENSEL, DuBois Native, Dies at 73 Mrs. EMMA RENSEL, widow of the late RAYMOND RENSEL and a native of this community, passed away at 9:45 o’clock Friday evening at her home at 330 Tozler avenue, after a short illness. She was born in West Liberty on September 19, 1869, and had spent her entire life in this vicinity, living in DuBois for fifty-three years. She was the daughter of JOHN LYONS and CATHERINE ANN HOOVER members of the West Liberty section. She was a member of the Baptist Church of this city and held the respect and esteem of a wide circle of friends. On September 20, 1889, she was untied in marriage with RAYMOND RENSEL, of DuBois, who preceded her in death. She is survived by three sons, R. LLOYD RENSEL, of DuBois, W. PAUL and J. VERNON RENSEL, both of Cleveland. Nine grandchildren and two great grandchildren also survive, in addition to the following brothers and sisters, WILLIAM H. LYONS, and Mrs. ETTA L. LEACH, of DuBois, DAVID J. LYONS, of Big Fork, Mont., and NORMAN A. LYONS and NORA A. LYONS, both of Youngstown. Funeral services will be held on Monday morning at 11 o’clock at the Paul J. Short Funeral home, where friends will be received after 4 p.m. Saturday, Rev. THOMAS LOWTHES(?), OF THE Baptist Church will officiate and burial will be made at the West Liberty cemetery. DuBois Courier 6/20/1942 Mrs. JOHN L. EDNER Dies on Friday afternoon Mrs. EMMA ELIZA BREWER EDNER, wife of JOHN L. EDNER, of 27 Garfield Avenue, and a resident of this city for half a century died at her home at 3:46 o’clock Friday afternoon, after an illness of eight weeks due to a heart attack. She was in her seventy-third yar, having been born at Smicksburg Pennsylvania, on February 2, 1874, the daughter of DAVID and MARGARET ACKERMAN BREWER. She was a charter member of the Trinity Lutheran Church ofthis city and was held in high regard by a large circle of friends, especiallyin her won neighborhood; where she was respected as a good neighbor and for her kindliness and motherly nature. She was untied in marriage on October 11, 1905, to JOHN L. EDNER, of this city, who survives her, along with one daughter, ESTER, at home, and one brother, EBERT BREWER, of Smicksburg. Friends will be received after 3 p. m. at the Paul J. Short Funeral Home, Where burial services will be conducted at 2 o’clock Monday afternoon by Dr. B. F. RUDISILL, of the Trinity Lutheran Church, and burial will be made in Morningside Cemetery. DuBois Express 5/20/1898 MARTIN HOOVER An Highly Esteemed Citzen of DuBois Called Home. Evening Express May 12. MARTIN HOOVER, one of the earliest and most highly esteemed residents of DuBois was summoned to another world at 1:10 this morning. His condition had been very serious and the end was not unexpected. He had been suffering from dysentery for nearly three weeks and gradually grew weaker until the soul left its earthly tenement. He was the son of Mrs. and Mrs. JOHN HOOVER, who were among the earliest settlers of Clearfield County, and was born near Luthersburg fifty-one years ago the 14th of last March. His boyhood days were spent at West Liberty. In 1865 he married Miss EMILY HIPPLE of Jefferson County, at Clearfield. He is survived by his widow and six children. The later are ANNIE LUELLA (Mrs. H. B. JOHNSON), MARY ALICE (Mrs. E. E. SCHRECENGOST), WILLIAM LUTHER HOOVER, MAGGIE BELL (Mrs. L. E. DRAUCKER), CHARLES BLAKE HOOVER and Miss NELLIE N. HOOVER The youngest daughter is about 9 years of age. MR. HOOVER is also survived by three brothers and sisters. They are; GEORGE of Webster County, Iowa, JOHN of West Liberty WILLIAM of Maryland, Mrs. JOHN LYONS of West Liberty and Mrs. JOHN LYAS of Troutville. One brother preceded him. The deceased was a devout member of the Methodist Episcopal Church. He was a kind and loving father, an affectionate husband and an industrious, exemplar citizen. He owned his residence, No. 2 S. Brady Street, and the building adjoining in which the Union Bargain store and A.D. Orner’s office are located. He was a member of the Protected Home Circle and leaves his family $2,000 insurance. He was a general favorite among the employees at M? DuBois’ Mill, where he worked for nearly 20 years, and a man of whom any community might be proud. Funeral services will be conducted at the M.E. Church by Rev. A. R. RICH at 10:00 o’clock on Sunday morning. Interment will be made at Rumbarger Cemetery. DuBois Courier 7/14/1930 Mrs. HEBERLING Dies in Township At Advanced Age. Mrs. MARY E. HEBERLING, wife of GEORGE HEBERLING and a venerable resident of Sandy Township, passed away at her home in West Liberty on Saturday afternoon at 5:40 o’clock as the result of influenza and chronic bronchitis, after an illness of several days. The deceased was 75 years of age and had been a resident of Sandy Township for many years. Seven sons and daughters, most of whom reside in this vicinity, survive in addition to her husband. Funeral services are to be held at the home at 2:30 o’clock Tuesday afternoon and the remains will be taken to Salem for burial.   Evening Courier 7/28/1903 CLARK LYONS Laid To Rest. Mr. CLARK LYONS who resided with his daughter, Mrs. GEO. HENRY of near Rathmal, died last Friday at Skyesville, at the home of his son GEO. LYONS, Mr. LYONS was at a visit to his grand daughter in Indiana County, on his return home, reaching Skyesville he had a stroke of paralysis from which he never recovered. He was buried on Sunday afternoon, Rev. MEEK of Reynoldsville conducted the funeral rites. Mr. LYONS was nearly 80 years old, was a good citizen and neighbor esteemed by all who knew him. TRUMAN, MARY ANN, 63 years of age born in Nottingham, England, died of natural causes at East Main Street, Brookville on December 14, 1903 and will be buried in Brookville on December 14, 1903. She is the daughter of JOHN and FRANCES WALKER.

Alice, Joyce is absolutely right. It is time to get rid (unsubscribe) troublemakers of this ilk, people who are not on the list for genealogy purposes, but simply to cause trouble. Jim Hindman -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, August 06, 2001 12:50 AM Subject: Re: Attn: Alice Gayley >Alice, >I know you have the patience of Job, but I think it is time you take >appropriate action on this. I have been a long time subscriber to this List >and have enjoyed being a part of the membership. This has gone on too long >and has reached what I consider a dangerous and offending level. > >Joyce > >In a message dated 08/05/2001 7:15:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >[email protected] writes: > ><< Subj: Re: Thank you > Date: 08/05/2001 7:15:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time > From: [email protected] > Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected] ></A> > To: [email protected] > > You forgot to put "OFF TOPIC--lunacy" in the Subject, honey. > > How very "Deb of you," Deb. SNDB stands for Steven, your son, Nicole, your > daughter, D for you, and B for Bill, your husband. Your last screen name, > Ann, was for your mother. The one before that, J.Marie, JMarie and Jmarie, > which you couldn't even remember to spell right, was for your kids' middle > names, James and Marie. How very creative of you, and how lovely of you to > mail stuff to yourself. Good grief! Can you HAVE anymore tantrums? Back into > the cage with you, girl! > > LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL > > xo- > Merle > > > > > >==== PAJEFFER Mailing List ==== >To contact Nate Zipfel, Listmister, click below: >mailto:[email protected] >remember, Please share Genealogy with future generations.... > >

> Is there a kind soul out there with the 1900 Jefferson Co, PA SK-Pub census > CD on hand? I realize that the 1900 images are online, but they're > pathetically small, and too difficult to read. When I was helping to transcribe the 1850 images, I found it best to take the images into MS-Paint and then use the magnification found under View|Zoom|Custom. Try the various magnifications, starting with 200%. To get on-line images into Paint, save them first, and then open the saved file in Paint. Ken

Sorry to have to get in on this but ENOUGH IS ENOUGH We are tired of all this ...I'm getting ready to unsubscribe because of the unwanted and unassociated with Genealogy emails...Give it a rest...None of us deserve this ...

Mark - I have families that go back to George b ca 1800 and wife Suzanne Salsgiver b ca 1803 died 1873. I have ties to their issue Mary mar Marshall McDermott; Martha mar John Stiver; James mar Mary Elizabeth Painter. Beverley

The name is Allison Florence Snodgrass-Billings Thank you.

Enough is enough. I am not all4sndb, Allison is. Just stop it. Deb

Yes, time to end this persons nastiness. We don't need it. Lillian

Hi all, Sorry I've been absent from the list the past week or so. I need to remind you all that my "rules" for the list are very simple. They are: 1 - Please stay on topic. This list is for discussion of Jefferson County Genealogy. If your message is not directly related to that then send a private e-mail message. 2 - Do NOT FLAME (send argumentative or critical messages) people on the list. If you get FLAMED, do NOT respond via the list! Please lets get back to the purpose of this list. Individuals who continue to violate the "rules" will be unsubscribed. Thanks Nate Nathan Zipfel Jefferson County Genealogy Project Co-Host http://www.pa-roots.com/~jefferson/

Can someone please tell me how to search the Archives for this list? Thank you.

Alice, I know you have the patience of Job, but I think it is time you take appropriate action on this. I have been a long time subscriber to this List and have enjoyed being a part of the membership. This has gone on too long and has reached what I consider a dangerous and offending level. Joyce In a message dated 08/05/2001 7:15:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Subj: Re: Thank you Date: 08/05/2001 7:15:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [email protected] Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected] </A> To: [email protected] You forgot to put "OFF TOPIC--lunacy" in the Subject, honey. How very "Deb of you," Deb. SNDB stands for Steven, your son, Nicole, your daughter, D for you, and B for Bill, your husband. Your last screen name, Ann, was for your mother. The one before that, J.Marie, JMarie and Jmarie, which you couldn't even remember to spell right, was for your kids' middle names, James and Marie. How very creative of you, and how lovely of you to mail stuff to yourself. Good grief! Can you HAVE anymore tantrums? Back into the cage with you, girl! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL xo- Merle

You forgot to put "OFF TOPIC--lunacy" in the Subject, honey. How very "Deb of you," Deb. SNDB stands for Steven, your son, Nicole, your daughter, D for you, and B for Bill, your husband. Your last screen name, Ann, was for your mother. The one before that, J.Marie, JMarie and Jmarie, which you couldn't even remember to spell right, was for your kids' middle names, James and Marie. How very creative of you, and how lovely of you to mail stuff to yourself. Good grief! Can you HAVE anymore tantrums? Back into the cage with you, girl! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL xo- Merle

Interesting that someone who criticizes others doesnt have the guts to sign the post. Jackie Hildebrand Rosen Researching Hildebrand, Vandervort, Shaffer, Scott, Fleming, Jones, Mullica