Regarding Irish naming patterns: 1st son-named after fathers father 2nd son-named after mothers father 3rd son-named after father 4th son named after fathers eldest brother 1st daughter-named after mothers mother 2nd daughter-named after fathers mother 3rd daughter-named after mother 4th daughter-named after mothers eldest sister __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

Somewhere in my files I have the above chart, but cannot find it, and want to send it to someone just beginning in genealogy. I know the first son was named for father, second for mother, but I've forgotten the details. Could anyone help me? Thanks in advance. Jean in California

In another post, I indicated that I have a map dated 1951 entitled God's Country, Pennsylvania's Last Frontier, Showing places of historic interest, towns, roads, streams, mountains, and other things enjoyed by the outdoorsman. The border of the map is made up of several log brands "used in driving to the boom". Once again I thought someone might recognize a name. If so, Email me and I will describe the brand. They are pretty simple. Beverly Carter [email protected] Julius JONES - Benezette Wm. A. WALLACE - Clearfield E. A. IRVIN - Curwensville LLOYD & PERKINS - Williamsport Major James H. PERKINS Vincent TONKIN William DOTTS Sr. John DUBOIS - Williamsport & DuBois Hiram WOODWARD - Penfield David TYLER BARROWS & BICKFORD - Williamsport J. Blake WALTERS SIMPSON, HARTSHOEN, WALTERS John F. WEAVER & W. W. BETTS Co.

I have a map dated 1951 entitled God's Country, Pennsylvania's Last Frontier, Showing places of historic interest, towns, roads, streams, mountains, and other things enjoyed by the outdoorsman. As I looked at it I realized there were lots of names and dates that might mean something to someone, so I decided to post them along with a general idea of where on the map the information was located. It is not a road map showing county borders etc., but more like a schematic drawing of the area and seems to encompass the counties of Clearfield, Elk, Cameron, eastern Jefferson, and western Clinton. For that reason, I am sending this to all those county lists. There is no more information than what I have listed, but I will be glad to answer questions if something needs clarified. Hope this helps someone. Beverly Carter [email protected] Reynoldsville; George SMITH 1827-1901 Wolf and panther hunter. Killed 500 wolves McGee's Mills; first raft. Reed KING and Josiah WOODWARD 1823 Patchinville; Underground railroad station. Geo. ATCHINSON Grampian; Underground railroad, MOORES Bridgeport; Sam ARNOLD mill Rocton; Seth NELSON killed last wolves 1888-1891 Winterburn; CRAIG and BLANCHARD Mills 1873-1874 DuBois; John DUBOIS, Big Mill 1876-1908 Brady Camp; Bill LONG 1789-1880 King Hunter of Alleghenies. Killed 2,000 wolves, 400 bear, 3500 deer, 50 panthers, 75 otters, 500 lynx, and 400 foxes! Clearfield; Ellis IRVIN and son, mill Tyler; Philip B. BLISS 1838-1876 Noted hymn writer Karthaus; WING and GOTCHELL make first log drive 1852 Karthaus; KRISE farm and nearby LIEGY farm North of Karthaus; LINCOLN farm with child's grave Emporium; RUSSELL'S mill Driftwood; At the outbreak of the Civil War, the Bucktail Volunteers rafted to Harrisburg Cherry Springs; Leroy LYMAN 1821-1886 and "Jake" HAMMERSLEY Great Hunter Renova; Big panther, 9 ft 2 in, Sam SNYDER January 5, 1837 (?57) Hick's Run; John E. DUBOIS Mill and Town 1905-1912

There are two photos on my website, www.tombstonehopper.com that that Mr. David Doss has submitted to be identified. The photos were probably taken in Punxsutawney, PA. If you can help him, contact him at the mailing address listed on the page. To see the photos, click on the spot on my home page where it says "Can you tell me who I am". Mr. Doss has been trying to identify these persons for several years. Thanks for any help. Pat Steele

We've added new photos in the Jefferson County section of Western PA Old Photos! Come and see: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawphoto/jefferson (and if you can use the clickable link - <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawphoto/jefferson">here it is</A>) Here's what's new! >From David J. Huffman Adam and Maude Hutchins Smith Unknown Man >From Kristie Carney Reynoldsville, about 1930 >From Phyllis Copenhaver Slonecker Copenhaver Boys Percy and Elsie Copenhaver Family Percy Clair Copenhaver Also, new photos were added in many of the other counties, bring our total photo count (all counties) to 2483 - and there's still more photos to add!  Stop by and check us out when you get a chance. Teri Western PA Old Photos    http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawphoto

I left out some wods...I am resending the revised poem.. I needed to vent...Thank you http://community.webtv.net/crwarw/InLovingMemoryof

Please can you tell me how I can change my e-mail address with you so I can continue to receive my Jefferson County news. Old e-mail address: [email protected] New e-mail address: [email protected] Thanks so much, Ellie Boyer

SANDY that was great thanks.

This is for Al and Fran Plyler and the others on this list who live here in the Washington, DC, area. Have been reading about folks who are trying to donate blood but can't because the blood banks are swamped with donors. If you're among this group, here is another way you can help: The Salvation Army needs food donations for the volunteers at the Pentagon. They are accepting the donations at The Sheraton Suites in Alexandria, 801 St. Asaph Street in old town Alexandria. They are asking for: muffins fruit water lunch bags loaves of bread luncheon meat Please feel free to forward this off list since they need a lot of supplies. I'm off to Old Town now. Alice -- Alice J. Gayley Clearfield County Genealogy Project Coordinator http://www.pa-roots.com/~clearfield Armstrong County Genealogy Project Co-Coordinator http://www.pa-roots.com/~armstrong Jefferson County Genealogy Project Coordinator http://www.pa-roots.com/~jefferson Pennsylvania in the Civil War http://www.pa-roots.com/~pacw/ PA-Roots.com Co-Host http://www.pa-roots.com

May everybody get home safe ... then channel their outrage ... Skip Miller Virginia -----Original Message----- From: peke [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Sept 11 My husband stuck in LA but safe so far.Suggested he rent a car and get nack to "flyover" country.All safe here and glad to hear same for you all.God less us all and keep safe.Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al and Fran Plyler" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 6:08 PM Subject: Sept 11 > We've had so many calls, I decided to respond by sending a note to all > on our mailing list. > > Living near Washington, DC and working for the Federal government on one > of its largest campuses has it's drawbacks, as was demonstrated on > today's news broadcasts. > > We are safe and well. At no time were we in any danger, but there was a > time if we wondered if we were next. It was a great relief to drive the > 35 miles to home, and be grateful for the length of the commute. Fran is > at a conference in Norfolk, VA, that was cancelled, but the VA State > Police wouldn't allow them to leave the city. She'll be home tomorrow, > after things have settled down. > > I'm sure as names begin to appear on the lists there will be some we > know, and we will join in the mourning for our country on a very personal > note. > > Tonight, our heartfelt prayers go out to those who have suffered loss in > this great tragedy. May God grant them a measure of peace in these days > of sorrow. > > AL > > > ==== PAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > To contact Nate Zipfel, Listmister, click below: > mailto:[email protected] > remember, Please share Genealogy with future generations.... > > ==== PAJEFFER Mailing List ==== Visit the Jefferson County Genealogy Project by clicking below: http://www.pa-roots.com/~jefferson/

The results of the recent roll call on the list have been added to the Jefferson County USGenWeb Project site. Thanks to Sue Llewellyn for collecting and formatting all of the surnames and researcher data. -- Alice J. Gayley Clearfield County Genealogy Project Coordinator http://www.pa-roots.com/~clearfield Armstrong County Genealogy Project Co-Coordinator http://www.pa-roots.com/~armstrong Jefferson County Genealogy Project Coordinator http://www.pa-roots.com/~jefferson Pennsylvania in the Civil War http://www.pa-roots.com/~pacw/ PA-Roots.com Co-Host http://www.pa-roots.com

Hello, Can anyone do a marriage look up for me? I just came into some information and was hoping I could find my gg gandmother's family. If so...Jacob Hilliard married Nancy An Smith on January 26, 1869 in Big Run, Jefferson County by a Squire Hollouwell. I would appreciate any help with this or help with finding out where to get the info. Thanks in advance. Diane

Hi Pat-- I just tried Ancestry.com. All is functional. Alice

I tried to renew my membership and couldn't get it to go through. I've decided I probably don't need it.

Use this while ancestry.com is down. Deb http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi <A HREF="http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi">Social Security Death Index Interactive Search</A>

Everything appears to be offline at this time-- I tried to access the message boards and they couldn't be found either. Maybe they're just down for maintenance or something...... who knows? ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 9:50 PM Subject: Ancestry.com > I just talked to someone at AOL and she tried to enter Ancestry, com and her > answer was, "as far as I can tell, ancestry. com has gone". I was called last > week about renewing my subscription which I did at $99.00. Does anyone have a > number where they can be reached? > I was assured that it was not AOL. > Are others having this problem? > Pat in FL > > > ==== PAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > To contact Nate Zipfel, Listmister, click below: > mailto:[email protected] > remember, Please share Genealogy with future generations.... >

I just talked to someone at AOL and she tried to enter Ancestry, com and her answer was, "as far as I can tell, ancestry. com has gone". I was called last week about renewing my subscription which I did at $99.00. Does anyone have a number where they can be reached? I was assured that it was not AOL. Are others having this problem? Pat in FL

familytreemaker.com is also off line (they are cousin companies) so the server for the company must be down. Saturday night it must be a failure of some type. No dummy would schedule maintenance on a heavy useage night...well??? One would think they would pick a better time. -----Original Message----- From: Sherry [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 7:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Ancestry.com Everything appears to be offline at this time-- I tried to access the message boards and they couldn't be found either. Maybe they're just down for maintenance or something...... who knows? ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 9:50 PM Subject: Ancestry.com > I just talked to someone at AOL and she tried to enter Ancestry, com and her > answer was, "as far as I can tell, ancestry. com has gone". I was called last > week about renewing my subscription which I did at $99.00. Does anyone have a > number where they can be reached? > I was assured that it was not AOL. > Are others having this problem? > Pat in FL > > > ==== PAJEFFER Mailing List ==== > To contact Nate Zipfel, Listmister, click below: > mailto:[email protected] > remember, Please share Genealogy with future generations.... > ==== PAJEFFER Mailing List ==== To contact Nate Zipfel, Listmister, click below: mailto:[email protected] remember, Please share Genealogy with future generations....

Hi Listers, Well I found a new problem and must add a new rule for look ups.. When the person you are looking for is under 20 yrs,is living at home and unmarried,I will need their Father & Mothers name and birth year to find them.Married people living at home are listed with their Surname. Single people that are borders at another residence,are listed with their Surname. Recapping the rules. 1. Be alive in 1880. 2. Their Name,Birth Year,& Birth Place. 3. Parents names and birth years. 4. Wifes Name,DOB,Childrens Name, and their DOB's 5. The Countys or areas that they were supposed to have resided. If you give me the proper information,I can do a good job for you. Best regards John M.Casey Fairbury Illinois