Dear Phyllis, My information also shows that Simon was not the youngest Uber "brother" in fact far from being the youngest he was the oldest son of Johannes Peter and/or Georg & Anna Maria (Zeigler) Uber. The only older sibling was Elizabeth. I have never seen more information about Elizabeth. I have no idea if the following is correct but it is what I have found. If some kind soul (SKS) has any further information, additions, corrections, deletions or ideas how, where and what to search I would be most happy if they would contact me on or off list. Does anyone know if these Uber's are connected to all the Uber's in the Philadelphia, PA area? I understand that there is some speculation that these Uber's came Northwest and are indeed a branch of the early Philadelphia Uber's. Here is my descendancy chart of the first 2 generations: 1. Johannes Peter or Georg UBER (b.Abt 1730-Palatinate,Germany;d.Abt 1809-Westmoreland,PA,USA) sp: Anna Maria ZIEGLER 2. Elizabeth UBER (b.Abt 1767-Westmoreland Co,PA,USA;d.Abt 1798-Westmoreland Co,PA,USA) 2. Simon UBER (b.Abt 1768-Westmoreland Co,PA,USA;d.Abt 1798-Mercer Co,PA,USA) sp: Magdalena "Molly" TWINEY (b.26 May 1770;m.Bef 1785;d.5 Aug 1857-Mercer Co. PA,USA) 2. Peter UBER , Sr.or II (b.8 Aug 1769-Leigh Twp.,Northampton Co.,PA,USA,;d.6 Jan 1818-Hempfield Twp.,WC,PA,USA) sp: Naomi Barbara Amy FRANTZ (b.11 Oct 1764-NC,PA,USA;m.Bef 1793;d.27 Sep 1834/1839-Hempfield Twp.,WC,PA,USA) 2. Jacob UBER (b.7 Jul 1773;d.Abt 1773) 2. John Harvey UBER , Sr. (b.12 Oct 1775-Westmoreland Co,PA,USA;d.Aft 1850 bef 9 feb 1858) sp: Anna Maria sp: Catherine HARROLD (b.Abt 1783/1784-PA,USA;d.Aft 1850) 2. Abraham UBER (b.6 Apr 1778-Westmoreland Co,PA,USA;d.20 Dec 1858-Amsterdam,Liberty Twp,Mercer Co,PAS, USA) sp: Magdalena "Molly" TWINEY (b.26 May 1770;m.Aft 1798;d.5 Aug 1857-Mercer Co. PA,USA) 2. Anna Catherine UBER (b.Abt 1779;d.Aft 1850) 2. Michael R. UBER , Sr. (b.20 Feb 1781-Westmoreland Co,PA,USA;d.19 Jun 1861-Springfield Twp,Mercer Co,PA,USA) sp: Mary Ann "Molly" UREY (b.Bef 1785-Westmoreland Co,PA,USA;m.Abt 1800 or bef 1810;d.Bef 1850) sp: Magdalene HEARLY (b.Abt 1794;d.7 Feb 1862) 2. Anna Maria "Mary"? UBER (b.21 Dec 1783-Westmoreland Co,PA,USA;d.1 Jan 1871) sp: Daniel HEASLEY Thanks in advance (TIA) Deborah slipping and sliding in the icy suburbs of Washington, DC, USA