I have Emmanuel Z. (E.Z.) I remember seeing his grave. from the Schreckengast History by Gary Schrecengost: Daniel Schreckengost, son of Conrad, the first Schreckengost born in Armstrong County (Valley Township: 1807), "was listed as a gunsmith in the tax records of Bullskin Township, Fayette County, Pennsylvania, from 1820-29 [as an apprentice to George Biddle]; and from 1830-34 in Connellsville..On 22 February, 1836 [he] acquired 400 acres of land by warrant in Valley Township, Armstrong County. [where he] kept a tavern called 'Stone House' in Valley Township and married Mary Crum, whose father was a German farmer in Plum Creek Township..In later life he moved to [the town of] Rural Valley [the major town in Cowanshannock Township], remaining there until his death. He was a thrifty, industrious, and prosperous man, followed his trade of gunsmith as well as farming and tavern keeping, and acquired the ownership of three hundred acres in [the] township. He was an active Republican, served as constable for several years, and at one time was the candidate for his party for sheriff of Armstrong County [he lost].. He was a member of the Evangelical Lutheran Church. He had one son, Emmanuel Z. Schreckengost, who was a blacksmith, undertaker, and carriage maker." Virginia, The years are a litle off but it's possible. I need to check my graveyard videos again when I find time. > You know I had an Anne McCurdy(b. 1847) that married Emaniel Schreckengost > and died within a few years. Never could place her with the right family. > > Virginia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Connie" <[email protected]> > To: "Schreck" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 9:32 AM > Subject: Re: [PAINDIAN] Don't EVER rely on Treasures of > thePastCemeteryListings > > >> Hi John: >> >> You have my sympathy. I have an aunt who married Geo Schreckengost (or >> however you want to spell it) Also, Margaret Weaver who married Miles >> Washington Schreckengost (ditto) and a whole lot more on my tree. I >> think >> an aunt who married Eli. I have several surnames like that but yours is >> one of the ones I have a lot of problem with. They are all the same >> people from over there in Armstrong Co, but.... don't try to tell some of >> them that. Welcome to the fun of genealogy! Connie >> -----Original Message----- >>>From: Schreck <[email protected]> >>>Sent: May 30, 2007 10:16 AM >>>To: [email protected] >>>Subject: Re: [PAINDIAN] Don't EVER rely on Treasures of >>>thePastCemeteryListings >>> >>>From: John Schrecongost [email protected] >>>Subject: Errors >>>Talk about a headache, try my name. The spelling first changed 1805 when >>>we >>>moved to Armstrong, from there the family spread out over the county and >>>changed the spelling even more. I know of an obituary that got one letter >>>wrong and that changes the family and everybody is wrong from there on. I >>>know I'm right because I know the grandson. Search engines will covert >>>spelling to add results, so much fun. >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "ann monastra" <[email protected]> >>>To: "Connie" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> >>>Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 8:02 PM >>>Subject: Re: [PAINDIAN] Don't EVER rely on Treasures of >>>thePastCemeteryListings >>> >>> >>>>I also have found Treaures to be a helpful site and appreciate all the >>>>work >>>>that goes into posting the information. My concern is about the >>>>messages >>>>that are "gate-wayed" with the notation that the poster may not be a >>>>member. Also the anonymous nature of the messages is a bit unsettling. >>>> >>>> Ann >>>> >>>> Connie <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> I don't think I could have said it better Janet. Treasures has never >>>> assumed that all of the information on the site is correct. And, a lot >>>> of >>>> the info is contributed by others. We try to get the cemetery listings >>>> correct as far as we can read them. There are I am sure typos also. >>>> After >>>> all this site has had to move several times, and once we know the info >>>> got >>>> jumbled and a lot of work had to be redone. This is no fun! Who else do >>>> you know who will go out search out cemeteries that are almost >>>> impossible >>>> to get into and are on private land. We always get permission to go >>>> into >>>> the cemeteries on private land and many times we are asked not to >>>> register >>>> where they are located as the owner does not want people trespassing on >>>> his property. We are always happy to oblige them, in this matter. After >>>> all they didn't remove the stones as we have also found. Right now we >>>> are >>>> planning to do one of these cemeteries that we have been requested to >>>> do. >>>> We will record and take phot! >>>> os of each stone and put them up, as we are doing on small cemeteries. >>>> If >>>> someone wants us to recheck a cemetery or stone we will also do that, >>>> if >>>> it is out of town we insist on being reimbursed for travel. That is >>>> only >>>> fair with gas prices what they are. We hope to finish SS Simon and Jude >>>> sometime this summer. Carla has had three foot surgeries since Dec 2004 >>>> and we have not been able to get out and do the cemeteries. We do not >>>> plan >>>> on doing St Bernards in Indiana as I understand you can now write to >>>> the >>>> church and get the info, something you could not do until recently. The >>>> old Catholic cemetery is most illegible and we do not at this time plan >>>> on >>>> doing it. St Matthews in Saltsburg is not on our todo list. We are >>>> hoping >>>> to get to Edri but that will require a guide and again permission. Some >>>> of >>>> Douglass has been sent to us and the picture have been put up. We were >>>> told there would be more but so far what you see is what we have >>>> gotten. >>>> Also the Frech cemetery i! >>>> s out of reach and we will have to rely on old recordings. These list >>>> ing are up there to help, not prove anything. Janet said it all when >>>> she >>>> said records do not agree. We do our best. I think I realized how much >>>> public records can be wrong when I tried to copy the marriage idexes >>>> for >>>> Indiana Co. Some were recorded in the grooms books and not in the >>>> brides >>>> books, and vice versa. Also, names were recorded differently and dates. >>>> that is wry the information is listing on treasures the way it is. Some >>>> of >>>> names in my own family were messed up and a friend of ours found out >>>> that >>>> his marriage is listed in either brides or grooms and not in the other >>>> one. I usually will look to Bible Records as to being more accurate >>>> than >>>> others but then those records can be wrong as people were not so day >>>> and >>>> date conscious a hundred years ago as we are today. Not everyone even >>>> had >>>> a calendar. Right now I am reading early Indiana papers for info on my >>>> own >>>> family and am finding disagreements on information in them so don't >>>> think >>>> that the local paper was eith! >>>> er correct or wrong. At some time some of the gleanings from these >>>> readings will be posted to the site, some of which have also been >>>> furnished to us. Not doing too well on my family, I don't think they >>>> were >>>> very newsworthy. Also a cousin ask me to make a list of the F and B >>>> listed >>>> in the paper to be put up. Actually she wanted me to go to the >>>> courthouse >>>> and copy them. That I am not doing. >>>> I think you are correct Janet, this is probably a paid researcher who >>>> does >>>> not want anyone to get anything free. A few months ago I went to >>>> courthouse and looked up info for a relative and found nothing on the >>>> people she was looking, She then contacted a paid researcher because >>>> she >>>> could not believe there was nothing on these people only to find that >>>> the >>>> researcher found just what I did--nothing. >>>> Use the info as a basis just as you would ancestry or any other site, >>>> then >>>> try to prove or disprove it. That can even be a problem. Also, there is >>>> a >>>> lot of misinformation on the trees on ancestry because this is being >>>> furnished by those who did the research. Nothing in this world is >>>> absolute, nothing. Just have fun with what you are doing or forget it. >>>> I've been doing this for over 38 yrs. I have had a lot of fun and a lot >>>> of >>>> frustration. Traveled many miles and seen lots of place and met some >>>> very >>>> nice people. It is interesting and life is not boring. Have a good day. >>>> Connie >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>From: Janet Tabares >>>>>Sent: May 29, 2007 8:23 AM >>>>>To: [email protected] >>>>>Subject: Re: [PAINDIAN] Don't EVER rely on Treasures of the >>>>>PastCemeteryListings >>>>> >>>>>I agree, use these as a starting point. And if you find a grave that >>>>>you >>>>>are interested in, you can search findagrave and see if the person is >>>>>listed >>>>>there. You can also list the find and do a photo request, can use the >>>>>information to contact the local historical/genealogical society and/or >>>>>the >>>>>cemetery itself and query them to see if they have the same information >>>>>and >>>>>if so what the documentation for it is. You can search online >>>>>newspapers >>>>>to >>>>>see if there is corroborating evidence listed there. >>>>> >>>>>I wonder if the person that posted the warning has family information >>>>>passed >>>>>down to him/her that may/may not be correct and since what he/she found >>>>>doesn't match what he/she has his/her personal research is threatened. >>>>>I've >>>>>run across this especially with beginning genealogists. "Aunt Betsy >>>>>said...." and it turns out that Aunt Betsy told you what she either >>>>>wanted >>>>>to believe or what she thought would make a good story. This along with >>>>>the >>>>>assurance of a new genealogist that their family name has ALWAYS been >>>>>spelled ____ . Another thing, just because the information is wrong in >>>>>someone's opinion, it doesn't mean that the information was made up or >>>>>perhaps even typed wrong. Dates and names may not be correct on stones, >>>>>and >>>>>they didn't just chuck the stone if a name or date was misspelled or >>>>>wrong >>>>>until recently. The stone cutter cut what he was told to. If the >>>>>informant >>>>>had incorrect information then that's what was passed on. Census >>>>>records >>>>>have errors because if the family wasn't home a neighbor may have >>>>>provided >>>>>the names/ages etc. This still occurs - I was an Office Supervisor >>>>>during >>>>>the 2000 Census and I can honestly say, that a very concerted effort >>>>>was >>>>>put >>>>>into getting the forms filled out and there were spot checks to make >>>>>sure >>>>>that the enumerators weren't just making up information. Even so, there >>>>>were >>>>>some households where the only information we were able to get was the >>>>>population count given by neighbors. All records have a possibility for >>>>>errors. >>>>> >>>>>As they say, document what you found and where you found it, and check >>>>>as >>>>>many other sources that you can to corroborate what you've found. I >>>>>thank >>>>>everyone that has posted records on the internet as my funds for >>>>>research >>>>>are very limited, and I can't afford to fly to Pennsylvania, >>>>>Connecticut, >>>>>etc from Texas everytime I want to check a record. I also can't afford >>>>>to >>>>>hire a researcher in the area. Just reading the warning made me wonder >>>>>what >>>>>the motive was for posting it. Could it be a professional researcher >>>>>that >>>>>is angry that their business is threatened by records appearing >>>>>online?? >>>>>The >>>>>fact that this person says that 70% of the records are wrong says to me >>>>>that >>>>>its an attempt to discredit the website. No one researching a family is >>>>>going to be looking at 70% of the records on a website, even if their >>>>>family >>>>>never left the area. >>>>> >>>>>Janet Tabares >>>>>http://janetaba.tripod.com/gen/index.html >>>>> >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>From: [email protected] >>>>>[mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of TJ Shumaker >>>>>Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 11:37 PM >>>>>To: [email protected]; [email protected] >>>>>Subject: Re: [PAINDIAN] Don't EVER rely on Treasures of the >>>>>PastCemeteryListings >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Yes - Treasures of the Past has errors - So does the National Archives, >>>>>Mormon Records and many others - At the same time, I've found a lot of >>>>>useful information and leads which I would have never found otherwise. >>>>> >>>>>I don't mean to critized this but anyone (ANYONE) who is doing >>>>>Geneaology >>>>>(or taking Genealogy) off of the internet from any source (including >>>>>Census >>>>>records, military records, Mormon Records, personal files, etc) should >>>>>take >>>>>them all with a grain of salt - - AND THEY SHOULD EXPECT ERRORS. Don't >>>>>count on the Internet to document your family history - USE IT AS A >>>>>STARTING >>>>>POINT - NOT DOCUMENTATION..... >>>>> >>>>>I have Civil War Records with different birth and death dates for the >>>>>same >>>>>individual in the same file, which coflict with Bible Records, Death >>>>>Records, Tombstones. >>>>> >>>>>And individuals make mistakes typing - Use the NET as a RESOURCE - not >>>>>a >>>>>SOURCE . . . >>>>> >>>>>TJ Shumaker >>>>>http://www.hitchhikers-guide.com/boring/index.htm >>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>From: >>>>>To: >>>> >>>>>Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 10:24 PM >>>>>Subject: [PAINDIAN] Don't EVER rely on Treasures of the Past >>>>>CemeteryListings >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >>>>>> >>>>>> Author: geneman1 >>>>>> Surnames: >>>>>> Classification: queries >>>>>> >>>>>> Message Board URL: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counti >>>>>es.indiana/6283.1.1/mb.ashx >>>>>> >>>>>> Message Board Post: >>>>>> >>>>>> I have found as high as 70% mistakes in them. >>>>>> Wrong Names, Wrong Dates, Wrong Relationships, Manufactured >>>>>> Information. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>------------------------------- >>>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> PeoplePC Online >>>> A better way to Internet >>>> http://www.peoplepc.com >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ________________________________________ >> PeoplePC Online >> A better way to Internet >> http://www.peoplepc.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- > http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I found information many years ago that Ann (Anna G.)McCurdy married Emaniel. I don't have the length of their marriage but she died and I believed he remarried and she is buried in Rural Valley Cemetery. At that time my father and I walked the cemetery but couldn't find a stone. I was told by a man he had the records in his basement and he didn't offer to look for me. It was in the 90's that August day and my Dad and I were tired so we didn't press it. Would love to know more about them. Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Schreck" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [PAINDIAN] Schreckengost >I have Emmanuel Z. (E.Z.) I remember seeing his grave. > > from the Schreckengast History by Gary Schrecengost: > > Daniel Schreckengost, son of Conrad, the first Schreckengost born in > Armstrong County (Valley Township: 1807), "was listed as a gunsmith in the > tax records of Bullskin Township, Fayette County, Pennsylvania, from > 1820-29 > [as an apprentice to George Biddle]; and from 1830-34 in Connellsville..On > 22 February, 1836 [he] acquired 400 acres of land by warrant in Valley > Township, Armstrong County. [where he] kept a tavern called 'Stone House' > in > Valley Township and married Mary Crum, whose father was a German farmer in > Plum Creek Township..In later life he moved to [the town of] Rural Valley > [the major town in Cowanshannock Township], remaining there until his > death. > He was a thrifty, industrious, and prosperous man, followed his trade of > gunsmith as well as farming and tavern keeping, and acquired the ownership > of three hundred acres in [the] township. He was an active Republican, > served as constable for several years, and at one time was the candidate > for > his party for sheriff of Armstrong County [he lost].. He was a member of > the > Evangelical Lutheran Church. He had one son, Emmanuel Z. Schreckengost, > who > was a blacksmith, undertaker, and carriage maker." > > Virginia, > The years are a litle off but it's possible. I need to check my > graveyard videos again when I find time. > > > >> You know I had an Anne McCurdy(b. 1847) that married Emaniel >> Schreckengost >> and died within a few years. Never could place her with the right >> family. >> >> Virginia >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Connie" <[email protected]> >> To: "Schreck" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 9:32 AM >> Subject: Re: [PAINDIAN] Don't EVER rely on Treasures of >> thePastCemeteryListings >> >> >>> Hi John: >>> >>> You have my sympathy. I have an aunt who married Geo Schreckengost (or >>> however you want to spell it) Also, Margaret Weaver who married Miles >>> Washington Schreckengost (ditto) and a whole lot more on my tree. I >>> think >>> an aunt who married Eli. I have several surnames like that but yours is >>> one of the ones I have a lot of problem with. They are all the same >>> people from over there in Armstrong Co, but.... don't try to tell some >>> of >>> them that. Welcome to the fun of genealogy! Connie >>> -----Original Message----- >>>>From: Schreck <[email protected]> >>>>Sent: May 30, 2007 10:16 AM >>>>To: [email protected] >>>>Subject: Re: [PAINDIAN] Don't EVER rely on Treasures of >>>>thePastCemeteryListings >>>> >>>>From: John Schrecongost [email protected] >>>>Subject: Errors >>>>Talk about a headache, try my name. The spelling first changed 1805 when >>>>we >>>>moved to Armstrong, from there the family spread out over the county and >>>>changed the spelling even more. I know of an obituary that got one >>>>letter >>>>wrong and that changes the family and everybody is wrong from there on. >>>>I >>>>know I'm right because I know the grandson. Search engines will covert >>>>spelling to add results, so much fun. >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "ann monastra" <[email protected]> >>>>To: "Connie" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> >>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 8:02 PM >>>>Subject: Re: [PAINDIAN] Don't EVER rely on Treasures of >>>>thePastCemeteryListings >>>> >>>> >>>>>I also have found Treaures to be a helpful site and appreciate all the >>>>>work >>>>>that goes into posting the information. My concern is about the >>>>>messages >>>>>that are "gate-wayed" with the notation that the poster may not be a >>>>>member. Also the anonymous nature of the messages is a bit unsettling. >>>>> >>>>> Ann >>>>> >>>>> Connie <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> I don't think I could have said it better Janet. Treasures has never >>>>> assumed that all of the information on the site is correct. And, a lot >>>>> of >>>>> the info is contributed by others. We try to get the cemetery listings >>>>> correct as far as we can read them. There are I am sure typos also. >>>>> After >>>>> all this site has had to move several times, and once we know the info >>>>> got >>>>> jumbled and a lot of work had to be redone. This is no fun! Who else >>>>> do >>>>> you know who will go out search out cemeteries that are almost >>>>> impossible >>>>> to get into and are on private land. We always get permission to go >>>>> into >>>>> the cemeteries on private land and many times we are asked not to >>>>> register >>>>> where they are located as the owner does not want people trespassing >>>>> on >>>>> his property. We are always happy to oblige them, in this matter. >>>>> After >>>>> all they didn't remove the stones as we have also found. Right now we >>>>> are >>>>> planning to do one of these cemeteries that we have been requested to >>>>> do. >>>>> We will record and take phot! >>>>> os of each stone and put them up, as we are doing on small cemeteries. >>>>> If >>>>> someone wants us to recheck a cemetery or stone we will also do that, >>>>> if >>>>> it is out of town we insist on being reimbursed for travel. That is >>>>> only >>>>> fair with gas prices what they are. We hope to finish SS Simon and >>>>> Jude >>>>> sometime this summer. Carla has had three foot surgeries since Dec >>>>> 2004 >>>>> and we have not been able to get out and do the cemeteries. We do not >>>>> plan >>>>> on doing St Bernards in Indiana as I understand you can now write to >>>>> the >>>>> church and get the info, something you could not do until recently. >>>>> The >>>>> old Catholic cemetery is most illegible and we do not at this time >>>>> plan >>>>> on >>>>> doing it. St Matthews in Saltsburg is not on our todo list. We are >>>>> hoping >>>>> to get to Edri but that will require a guide and again permission. >>>>> Some >>>>> of >>>>> Douglass has been sent to us and the picture have been put up. We were >>>>> told there would be more but so far what you see is what we have >>>>> gotten. >>>>> Also the Frech cemetery i! >>>>> s out of reach and we will have to rely on old recordings. These list >>>>> ing are up there to help, not prove anything. Janet said it all when >>>>> she >>>>> said records do not agree. We do our best. I think I realized how much >>>>> public records can be wrong when I tried to copy the marriage idexes >>>>> for >>>>> Indiana Co. Some were recorded in the grooms books and not in the >>>>> brides >>>>> books, and vice versa. Also, names were recorded differently and >>>>> dates. >>>>> that is wry the information is listing on treasures the way it is. >>>>> Some >>>>> of >>>>> names in my own family were messed up and a friend of ours found out >>>>> that >>>>> his marriage is listed in either brides or grooms and not in the other >>>>> one. I usually will look to Bible Records as to being more accurate >>>>> than >>>>> others but then those records can be wrong as people were not so day >>>>> and >>>>> date conscious a hundred years ago as we are today. Not everyone even >>>>> had >>>>> a calendar. Right now I am reading early Indiana papers for info on my >>>>> own >>>>> family and am finding disagreements on information in them so don't >>>>> think >>>>> that the local paper was eith! >>>>> er correct or wrong. At some time some of the gleanings from these >>>>> readings will be posted to the site, some of which have also been >>>>> furnished to us. Not doing too well on my family, I don't think they >>>>> were >>>>> very newsworthy. Also a cousin ask me to make a list of the F and B >>>>> listed >>>>> in the paper to be put up. Actually she wanted me to go to the >>>>> courthouse >>>>> and copy them. That I am not doing. >>>>> I think you are correct Janet, this is probably a paid researcher who >>>>> does >>>>> not want anyone to get anything free. A few months ago I went to >>>>> courthouse and looked up info for a relative and found nothing on the >>>>> people she was looking, She then contacted a paid researcher because >>>>> she >>>>> could not believe there was nothing on these people only to find that >>>>> the >>>>> researcher found just what I did--nothing. >>>>> Use the info as a basis just as you would ancestry or any other site, >>>>> then >>>>> try to prove or disprove it. That can even be a problem. Also, there >>>>> is >>>>> a >>>>> lot of misinformation on the trees on ancestry because this is being >>>>> furnished by those who did the research. Nothing in this world is >>>>> absolute, nothing. Just have fun with what you are doing or forget it. >>>>> I've been doing this for over 38 yrs. I have had a lot of fun and a >>>>> lot >>>>> of >>>>> frustration. Traveled many miles and seen lots of place and met some >>>>> very >>>>> nice people. It is interesting and life is not boring. Have a good >>>>> day. >>>>> Connie >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>From: Janet Tabares >>>>>>Sent: May 29, 2007 8:23 AM >>>>>>To: [email protected] >>>>>>Subject: Re: [PAINDIAN] Don't EVER rely on Treasures of the >>>>>>PastCemeteryListings >>>>>> >>>>>>I agree, use these as a starting point. And if you find a grave that >>>>>>you >>>>>>are interested in, you can search findagrave and see if the person is >>>>>>listed >>>>>>there. You can also list the find and do a photo request, can use the >>>>>>information to contact the local historical/genealogical society >>>>>>and/or >>>>>>the >>>>>>cemetery itself and query them to see if they have the same >>>>>>information >>>>>>and >>>>>>if so what the documentation for it is. You can search online >>>>>>newspapers >>>>>>to >>>>>>see if there is corroborating evidence listed there. >>>>>> >>>>>>I wonder if the person that posted the warning has family information >>>>>>passed >>>>>>down to him/her that may/may not be correct and since what he/she >>>>>>found >>>>>>doesn't match what he/she has his/her personal research is threatened. >>>>>>I've >>>>>>run across this especially with beginning genealogists. "Aunt Betsy >>>>>>said...." and it turns out that Aunt Betsy told you what she either >>>>>>wanted >>>>>>to believe or what she thought would make a good story. This along >>>>>>with >>>>>>the >>>>>>assurance of a new genealogist that their family name has ALWAYS been >>>>>>spelled ____ . Another thing, just because the information is wrong in >>>>>>someone's opinion, it doesn't mean that the information was made up or >>>>>>perhaps even typed wrong. Dates and names may not be correct on >>>>>>stones, >>>>>>and >>>>>>they didn't just chuck the stone if a name or date was misspelled or >>>>>>wrong >>>>>>until recently. The stone cutter cut what he was told to. If the >>>>>>informant >>>>>>had incorrect information then that's what was passed on. Census >>>>>>records >>>>>>have errors because if the family wasn't home a neighbor may have >>>>>>provided >>>>>>the names/ages etc. This still occurs - I was an Office Supervisor >>>>>>during >>>>>>the 2000 Census and I can honestly say, that a very concerted effort >>>>>>was >>>>>>put >>>>>>into getting the forms filled out and there were spot checks to make >>>>>>sure >>>>>>that the enumerators weren't just making up information. Even so, >>>>>>there >>>>>>were >>>>>>some households where the only information we were able to get was the >>>>>>population count given by neighbors. All records have a possibility >>>>>>for >>>>>>errors. >>>>>> >>>>>>As they say, document what you found and where you found it, and check >>>>>>as >>>>>>many other sources that you can to corroborate what you've found. I >>>>>>thank >>>>>>everyone that has posted records on the internet as my funds for >>>>>>research >>>>>>are very limited, and I can't afford to fly to Pennsylvania, >>>>>>Connecticut, >>>>>>etc from Texas everytime I want to check a record. I also can't afford >>>>>>to >>>>>>hire a researcher in the area. Just reading the warning made me wonder >>>>>>what >>>>>>the motive was for posting it. Could it be a professional researcher >>>>>>that >>>>>>is angry that their business is threatened by records appearing >>>>>>online?? >>>>>>The >>>>>>fact that this person says that 70% of the records are wrong says to >>>>>>me >>>>>>that >>>>>>its an attempt to discredit the website. No one researching a family >>>>>>is >>>>>>going to be looking at 70% of the records on a website, even if their >>>>>>family >>>>>>never left the area. >>>>>> >>>>>>Janet Tabares >>>>>>http://janetaba.tripod.com/gen/index.html >>>>>> >>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>From: [email protected] >>>>>>[mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of TJ Shumaker >>>>>>Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 11:37 PM >>>>>>To: [email protected]; [email protected] >>>>>>Subject: Re: [PAINDIAN] Don't EVER rely on Treasures of the >>>>>>PastCemeteryListings >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Yes - Treasures of the Past has errors - So does the National >>>>>>Archives, >>>>>>Mormon Records and many others - At the same time, I've found a lot of >>>>>>useful information and leads which I would have never found otherwise. >>>>>> >>>>>>I don't mean to critized this but anyone (ANYONE) who is doing >>>>>>Geneaology >>>>>>(or taking Genealogy) off of the internet from any source (including >>>>>>Census >>>>>>records, military records, Mormon Records, personal files, etc) should >>>>>>take >>>>>>them all with a grain of salt - - AND THEY SHOULD EXPECT ERRORS. Don't >>>>>>count on the Internet to document your family history - USE IT AS A >>>>>>STARTING >>>>>>POINT - NOT DOCUMENTATION..... >>>>>> >>>>>>I have Civil War Records with different birth and death dates for the >>>>>>same >>>>>>individual in the same file, which coflict with Bible Records, Death >>>>>>Records, Tombstones. >>>>>> >>>>>>And individuals make mistakes typing - Use the NET as a RESOURCE - not >>>>>>a >>>>>>SOURCE . . . >>>>>> >>>>>>TJ Shumaker >>>>>>http://www.hitchhikers-guide.com/boring/index.htm >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>From: >>>>>>To: >>>>> >>>>>>Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 10:24 PM >>>>>>Subject: [PAINDIAN] Don't EVER rely on Treasures of the Past >>>>>>CemeteryListings >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Author: geneman1 >>>>>>> Surnames: >>>>>>> Classification: queries >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Message Board URL: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counti >>>>>>es.indiana/6283.1.1/mb.ashx >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Message Board Post: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have found as high as 70% mistakes in them. >>>>>>> Wrong Names, Wrong Dates, Wrong Relationships, Manufactured >>>>>>> Information. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>------------------------------- >>>>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>> PeoplePC Online >>>>> A better way to Internet >>>>> http://www.peoplepc.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>>------------------------------- >>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> PeoplePC Online >>> A better way to Internet >>> http://www.peoplepc.com >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- >> http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! ---