Sonya, How accessible are the Presbyterian Church Archives in Philadelphia? I need to find some 1820'-1830's church records. Do you need to call ahead to make an appointment? Marcia Fronk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sonya M. Barclay" <sbarclay@andrew.cmu.edu> To: <PAINDIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [INDIANA] First United Presbyterian Church > Those records are housed at the Presbyterian Church Archives in > Philadelphia. I have seen them, but only copied the parts I was interested > in for my dissertation. It seems to me that there were BMDs in there > though, but I don't know for what years. > > -smb > > > --On Wednesday, April 21, 2004 12:58 PM -0400 "William T. Lyons" > <practico@juno.com> wrote: > > > I note that First Presbyterian Church was organized in 1808. > > > > Can anyone tell me if there any early records of marriages, births and > > deaths in the records of this Church? > > > > Bill > > > > > > ==== PAINDIAN Mailing List ==== > > JOIN "THE HISTORICAL AND GENEALOGICAL > > SOCIETY OF INDIANA COUNTY" > > 200 South Sixth Street > > Indiana, PA 15701-2999 > > Individual $20 > > > > > > > > > > ==== PAINDIAN Mailing List ==== > List problems??? > Email the listowner <PAINDIAN-admin@rootsweb.com> > >

I have looked at The Treasures of the Past link, and you are right. Most of the book is scanned in, and is readable. So those of you on the list who have been swamping me with requests, are actually able to search on your own. Thanks, Elaine for bringing that to our attention. Suzanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "E Schenk" <schenk.bartlebaugh@wanadoo.nl> To: <PAINDIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 3:01 AM Subject: Re: [INDIANA] Book > Most of the book was scanned and put up on Treasures of the Past a few > years ago. > http://www.pa-roots.com/~treasures/pa/indiana/indianarama/ > Elaine > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William T. Lyons" <practico@juno.com> > To: <PAINDIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:00 AM > Subject: Re: [INDIANA] Book > > > > Hi Suzanne > > > > I am looking for the parents of my great x 2 grandfather, John Morrison, > > b. 21 Feb 1809 in Indiana County. Any reference to Morrisons as early > > settlers in your 1953 book? > > > > Thank you > > > > Bill Lyons > > Jacksonville, FL > > > > > > ==== PAINDIAN Mailing List ==== > > INDIANA COUNTY HISTORICAL & GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY > > E-mail address <ichs@ptd.net> > > > > > > > ==== PAINDIAN Mailing List ==== > Having trouble unsubbing? Send a message with the word > "unsubscribe" (no quotation marks) in the body of the message to: > <PAINDIAN-L-request@rootsweb.com> or > <PAINDIAN-D-request@rootsweb.com> > >

I'm the one who originally posted this link ..... it has worked for me on two different computers. In fact, on this particular page, it urges you to bookmark the site so you can directly return there during this free week's demo. http://libraryweek.galedemo.com/portal.htm One thought ....the site may require you to put a cookie on your computer. Do you have cookies turned on? I certainly wasn't trying to frustrate anyone, but the links are working for me. Sue

Those records are housed at the Presbyterian Church Archives in Philadelphia. I have seen them, but only copied the parts I was interested in for my dissertation. It seems to me that there were BMDs in there though, but I don't know for what years. -smb --On Wednesday, April 21, 2004 12:58 PM -0400 "William T. Lyons" <practico@juno.com> wrote: > I note that First Presbyterian Church was organized in 1808. > > Can anyone tell me if there any early records of marriages, births and > deaths in the records of this Church? > > Bill > > > ==== PAINDIAN Mailing List ==== > JOIN "THE HISTORICAL AND GENEALOGICAL > SOCIETY OF INDIANA COUNTY" > 200 South Sixth Street > Indiana, PA 15701-2999 > Individual $20 > >

I tried this link and was required to have a passwrod also Didn't work > In a message dated 4/19/2004 9:56:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > cind@st-tel.net writes: > need to know the password to log on.........thanks > **** Click on OTHER..... not the link to librarians. You don't need a > password for "OTHER." It's free for this week. (It worked for me.) > > http://libraryweek.galedemo.com/itshere.htm > > > ==== PAINDIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the "NEW" Historical & Genealogical Society of Indiana Co. website. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~paicgs/ > >

I note that First Presbyterian Church was organized in 1808. Can anyone tell me if there any early records of marriages, births and deaths in the records of this Church? Bill

I don't understand this either. The link seems to work for some people but not others - not being a computer guru - I don't know why that is. It works fine for me. I never get a request for a password . . . Linda > I tried this link and was required to have a passwrod also > Didn't work > >

An additional note here. I have known a number of individuals who thought that the State Library and the State Archives were one and the same place. I just wanted to point out that they are two different entities and nor related to each other... ----- Original Message ----- From: <Newspapersrick@aol.com> To: <PAINDIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [INDIANA] 1856 Peelor Map > The State Library does not have a copy of the Peelor map. > > Rich Hill > Newspapersrick@aol.com > > > ==== PAINDIAN Mailing List ==== > Having trouble unsubbing? Send a message with the word > "unsubscribe" (no quotation marks) in the body of the message to: > <PAINDIAN-L-request@rootsweb.com> or > <PAINDIAN-D-request@rootsweb.com> >

Most of the book was scanned and put up on Treasures of the Past a few years ago. http://www.pa-roots.com/~treasures/pa/indiana/indianarama/ Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "William T. Lyons" <practico@juno.com> To: <PAINDIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:00 AM Subject: Re: [INDIANA] Book > Hi Suzanne > > I am looking for the parents of my great x 2 grandfather, John Morrison, > b. 21 Feb 1809 in Indiana County. Any reference to Morrisons as early > settlers in your 1953 book? > > Thank you > > Bill Lyons > Jacksonville, FL > > > ==== PAINDIAN Mailing List ==== > INDIANA COUNTY HISTORICAL & GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY > E-mail address <ichs@ptd.net> > >

Hi, I am trying to find out more about this family, living in Green, Indiana Co., at the time of the 1860 census: Julius Sears, 53 Mary S., 49 Edward J., 24 Lucinda B, 18 Milan, 15 Simeon, 83 All were born in Massachusetts. There is a family of Simons also living in the household. Simeon is thought by some to have died in 1864, and may be buried somewhere in Green. He is the onl I am primarily interested in. Is anyone tracking this family? Regards, Muffy Moore

Hi Suzanne I am looking for the parents of my great x 2 grandfather, John Morrison, b. 21 Feb 1809 in Indiana County. Any reference to Morrisons as early settlers in your 1953 book? Thank you Bill Lyons Jacksonville, FL

The State Library does not have a copy of the Peelor map. Rich Hill Newspapersrick@aol.com

Rich - I talked to Jonathan Stayer at the PA State Archives at 359 North Street in Harrisburg and they do have a copy. If interested I can even give you the # in the Archives file = PSA#196 PSA#: The item number in Manuscript Group 11 in the Pennsylvania State Archives, Harrisburg. Talk to Richard Strayer (717) 783-2669 Map of Indiana County, Pennsylvania from actual surveys by David Peelor. J. B. McLaughlin & J. A. Kinter. Published by William J. Barker, North Hector, New York. Engraved by Wm. Schuchman & Bro., Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Entered according to the Act of Congress in the year of 1856 by Wm. J. Barker in the Clerk's Office of the Western district of Pennsylvania. 54 1/4 x 41 1/2. Printed, in 3 colors. PSA#196, LOC S#756, LOC Phillips p. 336 ----- Original Message ----- From: <Newspapersrick@aol.com> To: <PAINDIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [INDIANA] 1856 Peelor Map > The State Library does not have a copy of the Peelor map. > > Rich Hill > Newspapersrick@aol.com > > > ==== PAINDIAN Mailing List ==== > Having trouble unsubbing? Send a message with the word > "unsubscribe" (no quotation marks) in the body of the message to: > <PAINDIAN-L-request@rootsweb.com> or > <PAINDIAN-D-request@rootsweb.com> >

I thought I had that book, but don't. What I do have is The Indiana County Sesquicentennial Souvenir Program 1953. Is there anything I might be able to look for you in that? The years covered are 1803-1953, and gives history and early settlers names, occupations, formation of the townships, when the boroughs were laid out, etc. Some photos, sketches, and ads from the sponsors as well. Suzanne Iversen St.Clair Groth ----- Original Message ----- From: "DCJJ" <daisy@cybrtown.com> To: <PAINDIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 6:28 PM Subject: [INDIANA] Book > Does anyone have a copy of the book - Marion Center-East Mahoning the Centennial Story by Clarence D. Stephenson, published in 1969 that could do a lookup for me? > > Thank you for your help > Daisy > > > ==== PAINDIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the INDIANA County, PA USGen website > http://www.rootsweb.com/~paindian/ > >

The Historical & Genealogical Society has been interested in having a copy for some time but ditto on the frustration Sonya mentions. I believe the state library may have a copy too. Coleen Chambers -------Original Message------- From: Sonya M Barclay Date: 04/18/04 21:34:35 To: PAINDIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [INDIANA] 1856 Peelor Map Phil Zorich, who is the Special Collections Librarian where the Peelor map is housed, has had problems in making the map available in a usable format. I have discussed this with him a number of times. He has a glass negative, but the size of the map makes it difficult to reproduce. He can be contacted, I believe, via the IUP Library website. From an equally frustrated researcher, -Sonya Barclay On Sun, 18 Apr 2004, TJ Shumaker wrote: > DITTO - I'd be more than happy to chip in to pay someone to take a high Res > Photo so it could be published on the Net in readable form. . . . > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Garyth50@aol.com> > To: <PAINDIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 10:54 AM > Subject: [INDIANA] 1856 Peelor Map > > > > I need some help, and I'm wondering if I can get a volunteer to do > > some checking for me. I live in Michigan, and just can't run down to > Indiana, > > PA to check this. ( Someday I want to make a trip down there to do some > > research, and to see what the area looks like.) > > > > It's very important to me to see if a Samuel Gibson is located on > the > > 1856 Peelor Map of Indiana Co., PA. He would be found in Cherryhill Twp > > I've been told that the ICHS has this map, but it is rarely, if ever > opened. > > This map is also on display at the IUP. > > > > Is it possible to have a volunteer zip over and take a look at that > > map, and maybe draw a sketch, or digital photo, to show the location of > Samuel > > Gibson? The IUP internet site has this map posted, but when downloaded, > the > > names of people are not clearly readable. > > > > I will pay someone their time, gas money, and even lunch, if they > > could do this for me. Hopefully, this will satisfy me untill I can get a > readable > > copy of the map, or see it in person. > > > > Thank you very much. > > > > Gary T. Gibson > > > > > > > > > > ==== PAINDIAN Mailing List ==== > > Visit the INDIANA County, PA USGen website > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~paindian/ > > > > > ==== PAINDIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the INDIANA County, PA USGen website > http://www.rootsweb.com/~paindian/ > > > _____________________________

Thanks Ken - - If the 1856 is that large on CD (and I don't doubt it) it wouldn't be practicable for me to put it on the NET full size. Since I am going to get it anyway there might be a couple of solutions 1) put in on in reduced size so that indivials could see what it looks like and 2) MAYBE put in n FULL size in 8 or 10 CHUNKS with an index showing which section to look at for a particular name, etc... We'll have to see. In any event, I'll copy it to CD's and anyone who wants a copy can get it from me for the Mailing charge - - I can't see everyone paying for a copy when it only needs to be done once. I;ll put it on the mailing list when I get it.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken McCrea" <Ken@GermanNames.com> To: <PAINDIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:48 AM Subject: [INDIANA] Re: 1817 Map > --=======D17591D======= > Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-6F769B5; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > > > Now from what I've read about that Whiteside map, I believe that it > >also shows the property owners within the Township. This map is also worth > >perusing, and I would also like to have a copy of it too. So, is their > >address or > >phone number handy? (If not, I will go looking for it.) > > I have a scan of the 1817 Indiana County Whiteside map that the PA State > Archives made for me. The map does not show land owners, but does show a > few of the blockhouse/fort locations. The map is quite a bit smaller than > the 1856 map, but the file size is still very large - about 50 MB. The > lettering is quite small and if the file is reduced much in size, it > probably won't be readable. You wouldn't want to download it without a > cable modem. A good scan of the 1856 map would have a much larger file size. > > To distribute the maps, they will probably need to be reprinted or put on CD. > > Ken McCrea > Stevens, PA > > --=======D17591D=======-- > > > ==== PAINDIAN Mailing List ==== > List problems??? > Email the listowner <PAINDIAN-admin@rootsweb.com> >

--=======D17591D======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-6F769B5; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Now from what I've read about that Whiteside map, I believe that it >also shows the property owners within the Township. This map is also worth >perusing, and I would also like to have a copy of it too. So, is their >address or >phone number handy? (If not, I will go looking for it.) I have a scan of the 1817 Indiana County Whiteside map that the PA State Archives made for me. The map does not show land owners, but does show a few of the blockhouse/fort locations. The map is quite a bit smaller than the 1856 map, but the file size is still very large - about 50 MB. The lettering is quite small and if the file is reduced much in size, it probably won't be readable. You wouldn't want to download it without a cable modem. A good scan of the 1856 map would have a much larger file size. To distribute the maps, they will probably need to be reprinted or put on CD. Ken McCrea Stevens, PA --=======D17591D=======--

I just got through fine. Try this link: http://libraryweek.galedemo.com/portal.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Walker" <katewalk@bak.rr.com> To: <PAINDIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [INDIANA] Free database access > > It asks me for a password, also, even though I tried to enter through > "other". > > Kathy

In a message dated 4/19/2004 9:56:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cind@st-tel.net writes: need to know the password to log on.........thanks **** Click on OTHER..... not the link to librarians. You don't need a password for "OTHER." It's free for this week. (It worked for me.) http://libraryweek.galedemo.com/itshere.htm

I am going to order the 1856 Peelor Map on CD on the 1st May - -I am requesting that the resolution be high enough to be easily readable (They say it shouldn't be a problem) and when I get it I am going to put it on the Net and you can download it from there if you want. If you want an actual copy of the Map (Not Digitized) - you get request it from the Pennsylvania State Archives 350 North Street Harrisburg, PA 17120-0090 Phone Contact for Maps - Jonathan Stayer (717) 783-2669 If you get the 1817 MAP on CD, Please send me a copy and I'll put it on the NET also. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Garyth50@aol.com> To: <PAINDIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [INDIANA] 1817 Map > tshu, > > Yes, that is the map, (the Whiteside 1817 Map), I'm talking about. I > only wanted to persue one at a time. > > I've been to both internet sites, but haven't really dug to see where > to get these maps from. If the information is at your fingertips, do you have > their address or phone #. > I want to buy that Peelor Map or the CD. I'm trying to decide which > will work best for me. > > Now from what I've read about that Whiteside map, I believe that it > also shows the property owners within the Township. This map is also worth > perusing, and I would also like to have a copy of it too. So, is their address or > phone number handy? (If not, I will go looking for it.) > > thanks, > > -Gary T. Gibson > > > ==== PAINDIAN Mailing List ==== > Visit the INDIANA County, PA USGen website > http://www.rootsweb.com/~paindian/ >