I received a letter from a cousin that asked me about Maggie Patterson Bartlebaugh married to Wm Bartlebaugh. She had a very old photo of Maggie's mother and father and wanted to know their names. Anyone researching this Patterson family? Elaine

Funny how in running out of places to check, you go b ack and look at some things again. I was looking at the 1820 census yesterday, it's one of those censuses that have numbers of males and females, and their age groups. How many of you have printed out the census forms and read all the little extra boxes? I just learned something new, and I wanted to share it. This is also for anyone having an interest in Samuel A. Gibson. There has been a little controversy, discussion, or differences of opinions on who the parents of Samuel A. Gibson may be. I won't get into that here, but it may simply come down to where he was born. In some of the censuses, a couple of Samuel's children state that he was born in Ireland, while a couple others just say PA. I wonder why would there be a discrepancy. Now in the 1820 census for Samuel A.Gibson, the box "foreigners not naturalized" there is a "1" . This means that there was one person in his household who was of foreign birth. It wasn't any of his children. It wasn't his wife, Mary Stewart Gibson, she was born in Maryland. So, it must have been Samuel Gibson! Now the history of Indiana County says that "Samuel Gibson and his sister, Margaret, were of the Manor Settlement". Margaret Gibson married Mary Stewart's brother, James Stewart. In the 1820 census for James Stewart, there is also a "1" in the "foreigners not naturalized" box. It's not any of the children. It wasn't him, because he was born in Maryland. James' mother, Elizabeth St. Clair, was living with them at the time, but she was born in York Co. ( in fact Elizabeth's father was born in York Co.) So, the "1" must be for Margaret Gibson, meaning that she, like her brother, Samuel, is a foreigner. To me this is a great little discovery. -Gary T. Gibson

Here is an obit for Mary Boring Stiffler's mother: Indiana Evening Gazette January 8, 1943 MRS. LUCY (OBERMAN) BORING of Emeigh, born April 13, 1863, in Indiana County, a daughter of Joseph and Lavina (Reed) Oberman, died unexpectedly at 5:45 p.m. Thursday in Miners Hospital, Spangler. Cambria County Coroner Patrick McDermott said death resulted from natural causes. Her husband, James Boring, died in 1916 and surviving are these children: Alvin Boring, with whom she resided, Emeigh; Mrs. John Porter, Sheridan, Wyo., Harry Boring, Pittsburgh; Mrs. David Bell, Coraopolis; Jesse Boring, Saltsburg; Mrs. Norman Stiffler, Sr., Commodore; Mrs. Barney Bogetta, Clinton, Ind., and Valley Boring, Kipling, O. She was a sister of Frank Oberman, Jeanette; Mrs. Thomas Oberman, Indiana; Mrs. James Myrtle, Jeanette and Mrs. Margaret Piper, Commodore. Funeral services will be conducted in the Alvin Boring home at 1:30 p.m. Monday and interment will be in McDowell cemetery. At 08:47 AM 6/1/2004, you wrote: >Vernon - > >I am not an expert on the Stifflers so what I have is limited and the middle >Initials on a few of these individuals vary, (Census Records) but > >Norman V/W Boring father of Norman E, Williard James, Alvin C. and Melvin >Wayne is the son of Elias Stiffler and Phoebe Boring > >Elias Stifler is the son of Joseph Stiffler and Caroline Reed > >Joseph Stiffler is the son of George H. Stiffler and Mary Johnson > >PLEASE DOUBLE CHECK THIS BUT THIS IS ACCORDING TO MY RECORDS > >NOW, If the Stifflers can help me out... > >Norman V/W Stiffler was married to a Mary O. Boring according to my >records - - Can someone verify her last name for me and identify who her >parents were ???? > >

Vernon - I am not an expert on the Stifflers so what I have is limited and the middle Initials on a few of these individuals vary, (Census Records) but Norman V/W Boring father of Norman E, Williard James, Alvin C. and Melvin Wayne is the son of Elias Stiffler and Phoebe Boring Elias Stifler is the son of Joseph Stiffler and Caroline Reed Joseph Stiffler is the son of George H. Stiffler and Mary Johnson PLEASE DOUBLE CHECK THIS BUT THIS IS ACCORDING TO MY RECORDS NOW, If the Stifflers can help me out... Norman V/W Stiffler was married to a Mary O. Boring according to my records - - Can someone verify her last name for me and identify who her parents were ???? ----- Original Message ----- From: <vernoncook@juno.com> To: <PAINDIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 7:03 PM Subject: [INDIANA] Newspaper article From Cambria Co., rootsweb > Barnesboro Star, Thursday, September 19, 1942 > > FOUR COMMODORE BROTHERS IN SERVICE; ONE NOW IN EGYPT > > Four sons of Norman W. Stiffler, Sr. of Commodore, Indiana > County, > are with the United States Armed Forces in the fight for freedom > The one son, Sergt. Norman E. Stiffler, Jr., 24, is the soldier > who > was reported last week in press dispatches from Cairo, Egypt, as having a > > narrow escape from death when his oxygen mask froze on his face while his > bomber > was flying at high altitude in a raid over Tobruk. Norman was rendered > unconscious and efforts of the crew to bring him to were unsuccessful > until the > navigator in the ship gulped oxygen and blew it directly into Stiffler's > lungs. > Norman has been in the Army Air corps since March 15, 1941. > A brother, James W. Stiffler, 23, has been in the Army since > February > 5, 1938, and holds the high noncommissioned grade of technical sergeant. > He > is on duty at Indiantown Gap. > Pvt. Wayne W. Stiffler, the third brother, enlisted in the Army > on > September 18, 1940, and is detailed to duty at present at Fort Bragg, NC. > He is > 20 years old. > The fourth brother, Alvin C. Stiffler, aged 21, was inducted into > the > armed forces on August 25 and this week began active training. > The father of the four boys is employed by the Clearfield > Bituminous > Coal Corporation at Commodore. > > Is this family of four Stiffler brothers in the War a descendant > of > one from the Civil War with four sons also serving? > > Vernon C. Cook USN(Ret) > Genealogy is the game...Grandkids are more fun. > > > ==== PAINDIAN Mailing List ==== > JOIN "THE HISTORICAL AND GENEALOGICAL > SOCIETY OF INDIANA COUNTY" > 200 South Sixth Street > Indiana, PA 15701-2999 > Individual $20 >

Maybe this will boggle your mind, I know it did mine! The year is 1904 ... one hundred years ago. What a difference a century makes! Here are some of the U.S. statistics for 1904: The average life expectancy in the U.S. was 47 years. Only 14 percent of the homes in the U.S. had a bathtub. Only 8 percent of the homes had a telephone. A three-minute call from Denver to New York City cost eleven dollars. There were only 8,000 cars in the U.S., and only 144 miles of paved roads. The maximum speed limit in most cities was 10 mph. Alabama, Mississippi, Iowa, and Tennessee were each more heavily populated than California. With a mere 1.4 million residents, California was only the 21st most populous state in the Union. The tallest structure in the world was the Eiffel Tower The average wage in the U.S. was 22 cents an hour. The average U.S. worker made between $200 and $400 per year. A competent accountant could expect to earn $2000 per year, a dentist $2,500 per year, a veterinarian between $1,500 and $4,000 per year, and a mechanical engineer about $5,000 per year. More than 95 percent of all births in the U.S. took place at home. Ninety percent of all U.S. physicians had no college education. Instead, they attended medical schools, many of which were condemned in the press and by the government as "substandard." Sugar cost four cents a pound. Eggs were fourteen cents a dozen. Coffee was fifteen cents a pound. Most women only washed their hair once a month, and used borax or egg yolks for shampoo. Canada passed a law prohibiting poor people from entering the country for any reason. The five leading causes of death in the U.S. were: 1. Pneumonia and influenza 2. Tuberculosis 3 Diarrhea 4. Heart disease 5. Stroke The American flag had 45 stars. Arizona, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Hawaii, and Alaska hadn't been admitted to the Union yet. The population of Las Vegas, Nevada, was 30. Crossword puzzles, canned beer, and iced tea hadn't been invented. There was no Mother's Day or Father's Day. Two of 10 U.S. adults couldn't read or write. Only 6 percent of all Americans had graduated high school. Marijuana, heroin, and morphine were all available over the counter at corner drugstores. According to one pharmacist, "Heroin clears the complexion, gives buoyancy to the mind, regulates the stomach and bowels, and is, in fact, a perfect guardian of health." Eighteen percent of households in the U.S. had at least one full-time servant or domestic. There were only about 230 reported murders in the entire U.S. And I forwarded this from someone else without typing it myself, and sent it to you in a matter of seconds! Try to imagine what it may be like in another 100 years ... it staggers the mind Have a good one

Barnesboro Star, Thursday, September 19, 1942 FOUR COMMODORE BROTHERS IN SERVICE; ONE NOW IN EGYPT Four sons of Norman W. Stiffler, Sr. of Commodore, Indiana County, are with the United States Armed Forces in the fight for freedom The one son, Sergt. Norman E. Stiffler, Jr., 24, is the soldier who was reported last week in press dispatches from Cairo, Egypt, as having a narrow escape from death when his oxygen mask froze on his face while his bomber was flying at high altitude in a raid over Tobruk. Norman was rendered unconscious and efforts of the crew to bring him to were unsuccessful until the navigator in the ship gulped oxygen and blew it directly into Stiffler's lungs. Norman has been in the Army Air corps since March 15, 1941. A brother, James W. Stiffler, 23, has been in the Army since February 5, 1938, and holds the high noncommissioned grade of technical sergeant. He is on duty at Indiantown Gap. Pvt. Wayne W. Stiffler, the third brother, enlisted in the Army on September 18, 1940, and is detailed to duty at present at Fort Bragg, NC. He is 20 years old. The fourth brother, Alvin C. Stiffler, aged 21, was inducted into the armed forces on August 25 and this week began active training. The father of the four boys is employed by the Clearfield Bituminous Coal Corporation at Commodore. Is this family of four Stiffler brothers in the War a descendant of one from the Civil War with four sons also serving? Vernon C. Cook USN(Ret) Genealogy is the game...Grandkids are more fun.

Ruel CALHOUN s/o William and Nellie Wassam CALHOUN born in Indiana Pa Dec 30, 1924 If anyone would like a copy of this obit feel free to email me. Deb

I am looking for information for Laura Belle Fleming b. abt 1865 and Jessie E. Fleming b. abt 1879. Laura and Jessie's parents are George Haley and Elizabeth Jan (O'Neil) Fleming. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Linda _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page – FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/

Does anyone one this list know who the individuals named in this article are (Violin owners)?? James L. Gilliland - owner in 1930 J. G. Gilliland - 1896 Frank Vaughn - 1881 Frank Boring - 1877 J. W. - 1820 W. C. Heller - 1760 Charles Boring - 1720 F. R. Schmucker I am guessing, but only guessing, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Houston" <houston4@netcarrier.com> To: <PAINDIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 7:38 AM Subject: [INDIANA] Altoona Tribune, 1930. Boring mentioned > Since there are Borings on this list I decided to forward the following. > > M. Fronk > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <RJWNLW65@aol.com> > To: <PABLAIR-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 8:02 AM > Subject: [PABLAIR-L] Altoona Tribune, 1930 > > > > LOCAL MAN OWNS VALUABLE VIOLIN > > Instrument Engraved With Names of Owners Dating from 1720 to 1930 > > When a violin is 210 years old, it may be said to have reached a hale > and > > hearty old age. > > A violin owned by James L. Gilliland, 204 Second avenue, Altoona, is at > > least that old-if not older. > > On the back of the instrument are engraved names of every owner of the > > violin from 1720 to 1930. The instrument was manufactured, undoubtedly, by > hand, > > by F. R. Schmucker. Although there is no date of manufacture on the > engraving > > which gives the manufacturer's name. > > Carved on the back by the penknife of some long-dead musicians are the > > following names and initials: "Charles Boring, 1720" "W. C. Heller, 1760," > "J. W., > > 1820," "Frank Boring, 1877," "Frank Vaughn, 1881," and "J. G. Gilliland, > > 1896." > > Mr. Gilliland doesn't pretend to know the real age of the violin. There > may > > have been a lapse of 100 or more years between the manufacture of the > > instrument and the engraving of the first owner's name. But the present > owner claims > > that the tone of the violin is superb.

Since there are Borings on this list I decided to forward the following. M. Fronk ----- Original Message ----- From: <RJWNLW65@aol.com> To: <PABLAIR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 8:02 AM Subject: [PABLAIR-L] Altoona Tribune, 1930 > LOCAL MAN OWNS VALUABLE VIOLIN > Instrument Engraved With Names of Owners Dating from 1720 to 1930 > When a violin is 210 years old, it may be said to have reached a hale and > hearty old age. > A violin owned by James L. Gilliland, 204 Second avenue, Altoona, is at > least that old-if not older. > On the back of the instrument are engraved names of every owner of the > violin from 1720 to 1930. The instrument was manufactured, undoubtedly, by hand, > by F. R. Schmucker. Although there is no date of manufacture on the engraving > which gives the manufacturer's name. > Carved on the back by the penknife of some long-dead musicians are the > following names and initials: "Charles Boring, 1720" "W. C. Heller, 1760," "J. W., > 1820," "Frank Boring, 1877," "Frank Vaughn, 1881," and "J. G. Gilliland, > 1896." > Mr. Gilliland doesn't pretend to know the real age of the violin. There may > have been a lapse of 100 or more years between the manufacture of the > instrument and the engraving of the first owner's name. But the present owner claims > that the tone of the violin is superb. > > MORROW NAMED PRESIDENT OF 12TH WARD CIVIC ASS'N. > C. W. Morrow, 2807 Walnut avenue, was elected president of the Twelfth Ward > civic association at the regular meeting last night to succeed Albert > Weidley, who resigned at the last meeting of the association. > The Rev. Perry I. Miller, pastor of Broad Avenue Methodist church, was > chosen director, W. J. Crawford was named chairman of the entertainment and > publicity committees and Mrs. C. W. Morrow was appointed to head the membership > committee. > Plans for summer activities of the association were made. The next meeting > will be held May 22. > > > > Annie Whiteman > PABlair Rootsweb List Administrator > Annie Whiteman/Steve Patz > Blair County Coordinators > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pablair > > > > ==== PABLAIR Mailing List ==== > Please direct any questions or comments regarding this list to rjwnlw65@aol.com > >

Hi All Back again this time looking for help in finding any ancestors or DESCENDANTS of any of the men listed on www.clymerpa.com/history.htm about 3/4 th of the way down on the page all were killed at Sample Run 8/26/1926 mine explosion, we are starting THE SAMPLE RUN PROJECT and need a little help. While you are look around the new Clymer web site. Thank You. www.clymerpa.com Thanks in Advance webmaster@8leg.com Jerry Hetrick 1-972-366-8102

Inscription on headstone. "Gone Home" One more little something on Catherine Shaffer Reasinger! ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOHN HERMAN" <SUJON@peoplepc.com> To: <PAINDIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 10:46 PM Subject: [INDIANA] CATHERINE SHAFFER REASINGER > > Source; Indiana Gazette May 20,1929 > > DuBois Woman Celebrates Her One Hundredth Birthday > > Mrs. Catherine Reasinger, widow of the late Joseph Reasinger, mother of Mrs. Elizabeth WEAVER, and of Mrs. Rebecca BUSH, wife of John A, Bush, and familiarly known as "Aunt Katy" Reasinger, quietly and unostentatiously celebrated her one hundredth birthday anniversary on Friday, May 3, in the home of the farm near DuBois, Pa. where she and her husband located in a dense forest after their marriage, January 5, 1854, working hand and hand, removing the pine and hemlock trees, preparing and cultivating the soil, and building the home in which she has resided all of the years, 75 which have come and gone. > > Contented And Happy > > Contented and happy, smiling and joking with the family of her daughter, Mrs. Rebecca Bush, who share the home with her, living close to nature and enjoying life to the full, with her mind alert and keen, the loss of her eyesight and impairment of her hearing alone suggest that she has reached the century mark. > > Never Far From Home > > During the hundred years which have passed, she has never been farther from her home than one trip by carriage to Dayton, Pa., 40 miles distant, to visit her daughter, Mrs. Weaver, who lived there some years ago. and rode on a railway train but twice in her lifetime, which included two trips to Brockwayville some 20 years ago. She was never in the county seat, Clearfield, and never visited Reynoldsville or Brookville. > > Source; Indiana Gazette May 20,1929 > > DuBois Woman Celebrates Her One Hundredth Birthday > > Mrs. Catherine Reasinger, widow of the late Joseph Reasinger, mother of Mrs. Elizabeth WEAVER, and of Mrs. Rebecca BUSH, wife of John A, Bush, and familiarly known as "Aunt Katy" Reasinger, quietly and unostentatiously celebrated her one hundredth birthday anniversary on Friday, May 3, in the home of the farm near DuBois, Pa. where she and her husband located in a dense forest after their marriage, January 5, 1854, working hand and hand, removing the pine and hemlock trees, preparing and cultivating the soil, and building the home in which she has resided all of the years, 75 which have come and gone. > > Contented And Happy > > Contented and happy, smiling and joking with the family of her daughter, Mrs. Rebecca Bush, who share the home with her, living close to nature and enjoying life to the full, with her mind alert and keen, the loss of her eyesight and impairment of her hearing alone suggest that she has reached the century mark. > > Never Far From Home > > During the hundred years which have passed, she has never been farther from her home than one trip by carriage to Dayton, Pa., 40 miles distant, to visit her daughter, Mrs. Weaver, who lived there some years ago. and rode on a railway train but twice in her lifetime, which included two trips to Brockwayville some 20 years ago. She was never in the county seat, Clearfield, and never visited Reynoldsville or Brookville. > > Pioneer In Region > > Mrs. Reasinger was the daughter of the late GEORGE SHAFFER, who with his father GEORGE SHAFFER Sr., mother CATHERINE STROEBER SHAFFER and three brothers, JOHN, MICHAEL, and FREDERICK SHAFFER, came from Dauphin County, Pa. in search of lands inherited by CATHERINE STROeber SHAFFER from her father, JOHN CASPER STROEBER. They followed the trail of the Philadelphia and Erie Turnpike, then being used to transport soldiers and supplies during the War of 1812 to Lake Erie, and when May 12,1812, they reached the hills back of WEST LIBERTY and near the JOHN CLAYTON farm they saw smoke rising from the log cabin of JOAB ODGEN and family at what is now known as the STANLEY station five miles south of DuBois; the only settlement by white people within a radius of 20 miles save one bachelor, JAMES WOODSIDE, who lived nearby, they sought shelter and food and were welcomed. > > Followed Indian Trail > > The next day, May 13,1812, they followed the Indian trail which led them to the spring on the present site of the RUMBARGER house on North Main Street , First Ward, of DuBois, where they built a hut of limbs of the pine and hemlock trees, covered with bark, and decided to locate. > > John Shaffer and his wife returned to Dauphin County, Pa., while the other member of the family proceeded to fell the trees, build a log cabin and prepare the soil for cultivation. > > Soon Had A Home > > Within a short period they had built their log cabin and cleared two acres of land and finding that the land upon which they had settled was not that of the STROEBER estate, decided to arrange for its purchase and on April 5, 1838, by deed of ESTER REED and JAMES CHESTNUT for the consideration of $650, 300 acres of the tract known as "Jericho" situate in Brady Township, was conveyed to GEORGE SHAFFER,Jr. father of Mrs. Reasinger. > > The brothers and sisters of Mrs. Catherine Reasinger, all of whom lived in or near DuBois, and all of whom are deceased, are; JACOB SHAFFER, MICHAEL SHAFFER, GEORGE SHAFFER, BARBARA, wife of ANDREW KNARR, REBECCA, wife of ADAM KORB [ my gg grandparents]. HENRY SHAFFER, ELIZA REASINGER, wife of PETER REASINGER, TOBIAS SHAFFER, JOHN and ELIZABETH SHAFFER. > > Cabin Became First Tavern > > In this log cabin, afterward to be known as the RUMBARGER HOUSE, the first public tavern in this section, Catherine Reasinger was born May 3, 1829. The Shaffer endured all of the hardships incident to pioneer life. The mother and the daughters not only prepared the wool, and skins from which the clothing was fashioned by them for the entire family, but worked side by side with their father and brothers felling trees and cultivating the soil. It was the day before machinery, wagons, pens, railroads, steamships, telegraph, mails, and post offices, tin plate, kerosene oil and electricity; indeed it was strictly the day of home manufacture of everything in use. > > Wooden Pins For Nails > > Timbers were put together with wooden pins, there being no nails, and in this manner the furniture was made. Vessels for water were carved out of chunks of wood. The only light was the tallow dip and fires were lighted with flint, matches being unknown. Mrs. Reasinger walked to Luthersburg to attend Lutheran church and Sunday school in the old log Union Church, which stood in the rear of the western end of the Union Cemetery, the first church building to be erected in that section, where services were conducted in turn by the Methodists, Baptists, and Presbyterians. Later she united with St.. Paul`s Lutheran Church of DuBois. > > Congratulate Centenarian > > Among the visitors to the home of Mrs. Reasinger on the ocassion of her centenary celebration were; C.LUTHER LOWE, HERBERT A. MOORE, AND J. CHRISTOPHER LONG, of DuBois, who carried out a program befitting the day. Mr. Lowe sang the sacred song "I`m the child of a King". Mr. Moore spoke on the life of the pioneer, it`s importance to the community and nation, and felicitated Mrs. Reasinger, on her long and useful life, and Mr. Long read from the German Bible published in 1776 and which has been in Mrs. Reasinger`s family since, the fourteenth chapter of St. John, using the German tongue, which is that alone used by the centenarian during all of her lifetime. > > Important Event > > The centenary of this woman is an important milestone in the history of DuBois and its vicinity. The Shaffer's were the study and stalwart settlers who founded the community, and their descendants have remained worthy of the good name bequeathed to them. They were in every sense pioneers such as those of whom Walt Whitman, the poet wrote; > > We primeval forests felling, > > We the surface broad surveying, > > We the virgin soil unheaving, > > Pioneers! O pioneers. > > > > shhhhhh............. quiet. I am hunting forebears, > > Sue > > > ==== PAINDIAN Mailing List ==== > NEW - July 1, 2000 > The Indiana Co. Branch of the Church of Jesus > Christ of Latter-Day Saints now has a web presence. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~paifhc > >

In a message dated 05/23/2004 11:49:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, lynn_bell57@earthlink.net writes: > Does anyone have any info on William Crawford b1833 d1909,his wife Sarah R. > Crawford b1836 d1917 children were Lucinda, suzetta, Charles,Mary &Joseph. > They moved to Blairsville in 1876 from Pittsburgh. > I also have a Crawford kin ..... Mary Jane Crawford b 1791 [unknown who her family was]. She married Abraham Wilson. Abraham and Mary and some of their kids died in Allegheny Co. That is not a real clue as to where the Crawford and Wilson folks came from. Here's the family: 1 Abraham Wilson b: Abt. 1785 d: February 02, 1870 Burial: St. Marks Cemetery, Springdale PA .. +Mary Jane Crawford b: 1791 d: March 13, 1849 m: 1812 Burial: St. Marks Cemetery, Springdale PA ........ 2 Mary Ann Wilson b: 1812 ............ +George Remaley b: 1810 in Hempfield Twp., Westmoreland Co, PA d: October 07, 1863 in Allegheny Co, PA Burial: St. Marks cemetery, Springdale ........ 2 Isabella Wilson b: 1814 d: September 10, 1890 in Allegheny Co PA Burial: Prospect Cemetery, Tarentum PA ............ +William Dougherty b: 1817 d: 1885 in Allegheny Co PA m: November 01, 1832 Burial: Prospect Cemetery, Tarentum PA ........ 2 William L. Wilson b: 1817 d: October 07, 1885 in Springdale, Allegheny Co, PA Burial: St Marks cemetery, Springdale ............ +Julia Ann Remaley b: August 17, 1813 in Springdale, Allegheny Co, PA d: September 03, 1903 in Springdale, Allegheny Co, PA Burial: St Marks cemetery, Springdale ........ 2 George Wilson b: Abt. 1819 ........ 2 Abraham Wilson b: Abt. 1821 ........ 2 Catherine Wilson b: 1824 d: Aft. 1880 ............ +Thomas Renouf b: Abt. 1820 ........ 2 John C. Wilson b: 1827 ........ 2 James W. Wilson b: 1832 Since their second son was named George, it is possible that George was the name of Mary Jane Crawford's father. And possible the name of their first daughter, Mary Ann, was the name of Mary Jane Crawford's mother. Likely, but not guaranteed. Nancy

I checked this link on TREASURES OF THE PAST for East Mahoning Township and didn't see a listing for any of the Kniselys in the cemetery listings, but there is a notation that "Annie Aul Church Cemetery - there is nothing at this cemetery, the church is even gone." http://www.pa-roots.com/~treasures/pa/indiana/emahoning/

Robin Bell lynn_bell57@earthlink.net Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. Does anyone have any info on William Crawford b1833 d1909,his wife Sarah R. Crawford b1836 d1917 children were Lucinda, suzetta, Charles,Mary & Joseph. They moved to Blairsville in 1876 from Pittsburgh. Thankyou Robin Bell lynn_bell57@earthlink.net

Sherry, I can tell you there is a church with cemetery and old graves at Gilgal. This is not too far from Georgeville. I was there about 5 or 6 years ago and the church, Presbyterian, was going strong. Your people might be buried there. I would try to go to the Indiana County Historical Society Library located in downtown Indiana - Clark House is the name of their location. They have a wonderful library and much information on cemeteries. It was in that library where I was given maps and directions to Gilgal and also to cemetery at North Point. This is just an excellent place for information. Best wishes, Elizabeth Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherry" <genequeen@alltel.net> To: <PAINDIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 9:41 AM Subject: [INDIANA] Cemeteries in or near Georgeville, East Mahoning Twp. > My eldest daughter attends college at IUP in Indiana, and on our drives to and from the college, I noticed a road that turns off to Georgeville in East Mahoning Twp., Indiana Co., PA. > > According to my records, John Samuel Knisely and his wife Susanna (Lingenfelter) Knisely raised their twelve daughters in Georgeville, and in fact, John and Susanna are alleged to have died there, but no one seems to have death dates or burial information for them. The eighth of their twelve daughters was my great great grandmother, Minvera (Knisely) Bish, wife of Michael Bish. > > On May 5th of this year when we went to IUP to move Jaren home for the summer, I made my husband take a "detour" to Georgeville to see if we could find any cemeteries and/or a burial place for Susanna and John Samuel. The narrow road twists and turns all over the place, and has some very charming Amish farms all along both sides of the road, but we could not find any cemeteries. In fact, I don't even remember seeing any CHURCHES in Georgeville, which was quite small. (We were kind of in a hurry and maybe didn't explore as much as we should have.) > > Can anyone on the list give me the lowdown on cemeteries in or near Georgeville? Better yet, does anyone know where the Kniselys may be buried? John Samuel Knisely was born Nov. 19, 1807 in Bedford Co., PA, and Susanna Lingenfelter was born circa 1812 also in Bedford Co., PA. > > TIA, > > Sherry Bish Jesberger > > > ==== PAINDIAN Mailing List ==== > Search the INDIANA CO mailing list ARCHIVES > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > Enter: PAINDIAN >

My eldest daughter attends college at IUP in Indiana, and on our drives to and from the college, I noticed a road that turns off to Georgeville in East Mahoning Twp., Indiana Co., PA. According to my records, John Samuel Knisely and his wife Susanna (Lingenfelter) Knisely raised their twelve daughters in Georgeville, and in fact, John and Susanna are alleged to have died there, but no one seems to have death dates or burial information for them. The eighth of their twelve daughters was my great great grandmother, Minvera (Knisely) Bish, wife of Michael Bish. On May 5th of this year when we went to IUP to move Jaren home for the summer, I made my husband take a "detour" to Georgeville to see if we could find any cemeteries and/or a burial place for Susanna and John Samuel. The narrow road twists and turns all over the place, and has some very charming Amish farms all along both sides of the road, but we could not find any cemeteries. In fact, I don't even remember seeing any CHURCHES in Georgeville, which was quite small. (We were kind of in a hurry and maybe didn't explore as much as we should have.) Can anyone on the list give me the lowdown on cemeteries in or near Georgeville? Better yet, does anyone know where the Kniselys may be buried? John Samuel Knisely was born Nov. 19, 1807 in Bedford Co., PA, and Susanna Lingenfelter was born circa 1812 also in Bedford Co., PA. TIA, Sherry Bish Jesberger

Jerry - are you related to any of the Hetricks in New Bethlehem, Clarion Co ?? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Hetick" <aaamicro@peoplepc.com> To: <PAINDIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 8:39 AM Subject: [INDIANA] Decedents of Hetricks > I am looking for any decedents of Harvey Harmon Hetrick, alvin Hetrick, Charles Louis Hetrick, Mary Hetrick, Ressia Hetrick and Stella hetrick > > As Always Thank You > Jerry Irvin Hetrick > > > ==== PAINDIAN Mailing List ==== > List problems??? > Email the listowner <PAINDIAN-admin@rootsweb.com> >

Any Hetricks in Michigan? Thanks Scott W. Grinder SWGrinder@AOL.COM

I am looking for any decedents of Harvey Harmon Hetrick, alvin Hetrick, Charles Louis Hetrick, Mary Hetrick, Ressia Hetrick and Stella hetrick As Always Thank You Jerry Irvin Hetrick