This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UaB.2ACE/3253.1.1 Message Board Post: I did a search of the 1850 census today through Ancestry. om, but was not able to locate John Knauf. I was able to locate Michael Sr., along with Michael Jr.,who appears on the 1860 census.. The boys in that family were Henry, Michael, and hartman. No Johns. The 1840 Census for Mahoning Township, prior to splitting up into 4 smaller townships, lists Michael Knauf, spelled Knoff, and John Knauf, spelled Knoff, 5 spaces apart on the census. The township was aparsly settled at that time, so the distance may not have been close. I had falsly assumed that this was the John Knauf of the 1871 map, but it appears that John of the 1840 census must have died by that time, because he was 40 and 50 in 1840. So is the John of the 1871 map the John of the 1860 census, and 14 at that time??? I don't know, but it doesn't appear that he would have been wealthy enough by 1870 to have paid to have his name included on the map at 24. I checked census up through 1860, should have checke! d the 1870 as well. Dick

I believe that Indiana County was formed from Westmore;land County in 1803. What was your ancestor's name?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Stahl Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UaB.2ACE/3254 Message Board Post: I need confirmation that HER parents are Washington and Etta Stahl.

Remember that Indiana County was formed in 1803, and most of it came out of Westmoreland County Grant Township was formed in 1868 out of Montgomery Township. Bill Collins -----Original Message----- From: WmGGibson@aol.com [mailto:WmGGibson@aol.com] Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 12:20 PM To: PAINDIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [INDIANA] Samuel S. Barr Help? Recently while looking up my GGGrandfathers death register at the court house it said he was born in Westmoreland and died in Grant. I know he died in Grant Township, was Westmoreland ever a township. This was circa 1820? Neither specified County or Township. Trying to find his father. Possibly Westmoreland County? Thanks, Bill Gibson ==== PAINDIAN Mailing List ==== JOIN "THE HISTORICAL AND GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY OF INDIANA COUNTY" 200 South Sixth Street Indiana, PA 15701-2999 Individual $20

Help? Recently while looking up my GGGrandfathers death register at the court house it said he was born in Westmoreland and died in Grant. I know he died in Grant Township, was Westmoreland ever a township. This was circa 1820? Neither specified County or Township. Trying to find his father. Possibly Westmoreland County? Thanks, Bill Gibson

still can not get off this list. I wrote to where I am suppose to and I am still on here ----- Original Message ----- From: WmGGibson@aol.com To: PAINDIAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 9:19 AM Subject: [INDIANA] Samuel S. Barr Help? Recently while looking up my GGGrandfathers death register at the court house it said he was born in Westmoreland and died in Grant. I know he died in Grant Township, was Westmoreland ever a township. This was circa 1820? Neither specified County or Township. Trying to find his father. Possibly Westmoreland County? Thanks, Bill Gibson ==== PAINDIAN Mailing List ==== JOIN "THE HISTORICAL AND GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY OF INDIANA COUNTY" 200 South Sixth Street Indiana, PA 15701-2999 Individual $20 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Carnahan Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/UaB.2ACE/1086.1945.1 Message Board Post: Born in Ireland approx. 1825. I think he arrived in the Pt. of Phila. about 1845 with his wife, Mary. Their first child was born in 1852. US Census of 1870 shows them living in Buckingham Twp., Bucks Co., PA I think he had a brother, James, living in Falls Twp., Bucks Co., PA. I don't find Alexander after this date and assume that he died. Mary had an additional child with Michael Carnahan from Scotland. He is shown in the Bensalem, PA census in 1860 along with brother John and sister Mary.

How do I get off this list I sent unsubscribe several times to PAINDIAN_L_request@rootsweb.com What am I doing wrong ----- Original Message ----- From: lbatch@comcast.net To: PAINDIAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 7:32 PM Subject: [INDIANA] Re: Alexander Carnahan This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Carnahan Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/UaB.2ACE/1086.1945.1 Message Board Post: Born in Ireland approx. 1825. I think he arrived in the Pt. of Phila. about 1845 with his wife, Mary. Their first child was born in 1852. US Census of 1870 shows them living in Buckingham Twp., Bucks Co., PA I think he had a brother, James, living in Falls Twp., Bucks Co., PA. I don't find Alexander after this date and assume that he died. Mary had an additional child with Michael Carnahan from Scotland. He is shown in the Bensalem, PA census in 1860 along with brother John and sister Mary. ==== PAINDIAN Mailing List ==== INDIANA COUNTY HISTORICAL & GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY E-mail address <ichs@ptd.net> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I know I am on your list, I keep getting messages.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UaB.2ACE/3253.1 Message Board Post: John Knauf was 14 in the 1860 census and he is found with the George Maul family in N. Mahoning. Michael Knauf is 23 in the same census. It seems that a clue may be found in the 1850 census, when both Michael and John should be found with their parents. I have access the 1850 census, but that year has no index on HeritageQuest. If someone can supply the page number I will look it up.

This is just a test, thanks.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UaB.2ACE/3253 Message Board Post: Is anyone researching John Knauf of North mahoning Twp? He appears on the 1840 to 1860 census south of present day Trade City, and about a mile north of the Mahoning creek. Am interested in finding out if and how he was related to Michael Knauf who lived at the same time, setteling south of the Mahoning Creek. Dick

Your dude hat memo came through to the Indiana messages.

----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "E Schenk" <schenk.bartlebaugh@wanadoo.nl> To: "Vernon C Cook" <vernoncook@juno.com> Cc: <emschenk@worldonline.nl> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 07:59:58 +0200 Subject: Fw: Wolf brothers married to 2 Elizabeth Lydicks Message-ID: <000d01c4841f$6d344050$ba8ffea9@elainev2il1s8l> Received: from mx21.lax.untd.com (mx21.lax.untd.com [10.130.24.81]) by maildeliver19.nyc.untd.com with SMTP id AABAUDHZBAE8P3N2 for <vernoncook@juno.com> (sender <schenk.bartlebaugh@wanadoo.nl>); Mon, 16 Aug 2004 23:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp05.wanadoo.nl (smtp05.wanadoo.nl [194.134.35.145]) by mx21.lax.untd.com with SMTP id AABAUDHZAAL8M5KS for <vernoncook@juno.com> (sender <schenk.bartlebaugh@wanadoo.nl>); Mon, 16 Aug 2004 23:00:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elainev2il1s8l (c3eea61e4.cable.wanadoo.nl [62.234.97.228]) by smtp5.wanadoo.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 149507A3B; Tue, 17 Aug 2004 07:59:58 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C48430.308FE5D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-ContentStamp: 6:3:126473943 Return-Path: <schenk.bartlebaugh@wanadoo.nl> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Message-ID: <000d01c4841f$6d344050$ba8ffea9@elainev2il1s8l> Veron, I sent two messages to the Indiana list but it has been 24 hours and I have not see come across . To come to think of it nothing has come across the list. I will be leaving for our summer house soon and not able to send to the list from there. My daughter and family are coming this week for a visit. It is rainy cool summer this year and she is in Italy visiting husbands family where it is hot, hot, hot. I may ask you to cut, paste and resend if I don't see it soon. Also, do you have any idea about what a dude hat would look like? I wrote one about that and it didn't come through either. Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: E Schenk To: PAINDIAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 4:07 PM Subject: Wolf brothers married to 2 Elizabeth Lydicks We have information that Andrew Wolf married into the Bartlebaugh family. His wife Elizabeth was the sister to Abner C, John W., Isaiah Jr., James Madison, and Samuel Bartlebaugh and the only sister we have been able to find. There were 13 children born to Isaiah and Elizabeth Conner Bartlebaugh. I have been lucky to be sent early 1900-1920 Wolf reunion photos and we are trying to date the exact years they were taken. We know a few of the people but trying to find other researchers who might know some of the Lydick family and help us name people in these photos Two of the Wolf/Wolfe brothers married girls name Elizabeth Lydick but not a relation to each other. John Wolf married an Elizabeth Lydick . George and Jacob Wolf were twins From the obit of George they were born October 16, 1830 George died June 8 1908 (no mention of twin Jacob in George’s obit) George married Elizabeth LYDICK He was survived by his aged wife Elizabeth (LYDICK) WOLF and one brother D.C.H WOLF of CherryHill Twp.and one daughter Mrs J.A. KINTER of Altoona. Think we found this Elizabeth Wolf living with daughter on the 1910 census. Elaine schenk.bartlebaugh@wanadoo.nl

We have information that Andrew Wolf married into the Bartlebaugh family. His wife Elizabeth was the sister to Abner C, John W., Isaiah Jr., James Madison, and Samuel Bartlebaugh and the only sister we have been able to find. There were 13 children born to Isaiah and Elizabeth Conner Bartlebaugh. I have been lucky to be sent early 1900-1920 Wolf reunion photos and we are trying to date the exact years they were taken. We know a few of the people but trying to find other researchers who might know some of the Lydick family and help us name people in these photos Two of the Wolf/Wolfe brothers married girls name Elizabeth Lydick but not a relation to each other. John Wolf married an Elizabeth Lydick . George and Jacob Wolf were twins From the obit of George they were born October 16, 1830 George died June 8 1908 (no mention of twin Jacob in George’s obit) George married Elizabeth LYDICK He was survived by his aged wife Elizabeth (LYDICK) WOLF and onebrother D.C.H WOLF of CherryHill Twp.and one daughter Mrs J.A. KINTER of Altoona. Think we found this Elizabeth Wolf living with daughter on the 1910 census. Elaine schenk.bartlebaugh@wanadoo.nl

I have been sent an old letter written to a family member naming people in a photo taken of a Bartlebaugh Reunion in 1910. She was a young girl in the photo and telling a cousin many years later who was trying to name people. All she said was that David Strassler was wearing the Dude Hat. Now there are 5 people were hats in this photo and a search of a dude hat did not show up anything that I could use, I was wondering if anyone ever heard of this kind of hat and what it looked like. Must have been slang at that time. Any help appreciated. Elaine

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Smith, Tyger, Griffith Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/UaB.2ACE/186.204.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi cousin, my 2nd great grandmother Catherine Griffith was a sister to your ancestor Sarah Griffith md to Abraham B. Tyger/Tiger. In case my direct email didn't go thru I have some info you'd like and would like to know more about your Smiths etc. I lived just a few miles away from where these folks lived but never knew they were relatives then. Contact me direct if possible & I'll need your snail mail address.

Does it still exist? Are records somewhere for this funeral home if it isn't? If someone died in the county home will there be records anywhere? and last i found someone on the ss index says died in Indiana pa on Nov. 14.2000 but i can't find him in the obits on treasures site where might i look did see a few mentions of him in newspaper mainly admissionds and discharges from indiana hospital. thanks deb

Hello everyone, It has been a while since I have updated Treasures. First of all to let you know that I already know that the links for Greenwood and Oakland Cemeteries in White Twp Indiana Co PA don't work and neither does the links for Edgewood Cemetery in Conemaugh Twp Indiana Co PA. I do appreciate those who have emailed to let me know but I did that on purpose and will let you know when they are back up and in working order. This update is another mixture for several different states, some of you may not know but I am half Northern and half Southern, and I have to say that I think when you have ancestors from both parts of the country life is more interesting in doing research. Especially when you come from an interesting background such as mine and my half sister, who also is half northern and half southern also, we don't have the same father but are trying to prove that our fathers are related. In doing research it is amazing at what you find in your background that just adds all the more color to your family tree. Recently in trying to search down my one line I found an uncle and aunt who had actually gone to the courthouse and made out a deed for selling their slaves back in 1861, when I called the courthouse in Wakulla Co FL, they first told me the courthouse had burned in 1892 and that very few records had survived, but I told them that I knew this one had as someone else had seen it, so they dug it up for me and called me to let me know they had indeed found it and they had never seen such a document before themselves, although I'm sure most of us have heard of that these things went on. Copies of these documents are up on Treasures under the Bird/Byrd surname on the Florida page. We recently went and placed a Civil War marker at Bolivar, Fairfield Twp, Westmoreland Co, PA for a grandfather of ours by the name of Marshall L McDermott Sr. Earlier in May we placed two Revolutionary War markers in Antrim Twp, Franklin Co, PA for a grandfather Robert Clugston (Jane Huey's father) and an uncle John Clugston. We are hoping to soon send for a Revolutionary War marker for William Marshall Jr who is buried at Glade Run at Dayton PA. Also recently my sister, Marcia, my mother, Connie and I were in the Blairsville Dispatch for the 4th of July celebration. They had contacted us about doing an article on us and what we do and on the DAR, because my sister is a member. I have put this article along with the article that was done last October in the Indiana Gazette, up on the site for all to read. Both articles include photos. The History of Indiana County Her People Past and Present by Stewart is being transcribed and part of it has been put up on the Indiana County PA page of the site, along with some of the photos out of the book. I am hoping to now start working on the two Indiana County PA websites that I maintain and get them updated. And start on another update for Treasures as I have much more to add to the site. Carla Treasures of the Past http://www.pa-roots.com/~treasures treasures@www.pa-roots.com Indiana County PA Gen Web http://www.rootsweb.com/~paindian indianacountypagenweb@hotmail.com Indiana County PA Archives http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/indiana/ indianacountypaarchives@hotmail.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Smith/Tiger Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/UaB.2ACE/186.204.1 Message Board Post: My gr-gr-grandmother was sarah Tiger married to George Clark Smith, her father was Abraham Tiger. I really have very little info on this line. I did find Abrahams ob in the Indiana Evening Gazette on Nov. 3, 1906 that said he came from New Jersey when 8 with his parents Mr & Mrs Adam Tiger. If you have any other info I would like to hear about it.