Until last year, I thought that Bartlebaugh was a form of the name Puterbaugh and Buterbaugh. They lived near each other in Bedford County and moved to Indiana County about the same time. Buterbaugh and Bartlebaugh girls married into the same family. After Y-DNA testing 3 Bartlebaughs, we found that the one Bartlebaugh that had gone by the name Purtlebaugh in 1700s was from the same family and connect in the mid 1700s. That was the result we were after. Then the results showed that Bartlebaugh was not part of the Puterbaugh or Buterbaugh family line. Then we tested 2 Buterbaughs, 2 Puterbaughs and 1 Puderbaugh. I know this is a small number of people but we did get interesting results. I am puting here the letter written by one the people tested that will explain some importanting information that might change the direction of your research. In short, the Md Puterbaughs are a whole different family than the New Jersey Puterbaughs and the various spellings that they use. For many years Dan kept trying to find a connection and now we know that there is not one unless you go back maybe 10,000 years. They do have the same Haplogroup and probably came from the same general area in Europe. UpDate on Puterbaugh/Buterbaugh DNA If you have read Julia Marshall’s info on genform re Buterbaugh/Puterbaugh DNA participants, you know that there were two individuals (#1 & #2 below) who matched 35/37. Following are the five unnamed participants: #1 – A Buterbaugh who has a paper trail to Johann Peter Puterbaugh, the immigrant. #2 – A Puterbaugh who has a paper trail to George Puterbaugh, the immigrant. #3 – Me . . Dan Puterbaugh who has a paper trail to George Poterbach, b ca 1757. #4 – A Buterbaugh who has a paper trail to an ancestor, b 1810. #5 – A Puderbaugh who has a paper trail to George Poterbach, b ca 1757. #1 & #2 match 35/37, but NOT the other three. #3 & #5 match 35/37, but NOT the other three. #4 doesn’t match any of the others. Early researchers felt there were only two immigrants – Johann Peter & his brother, George – and anyone with the varied spelling of the surname descended from those two fellows. We’re told that DNA doesn’t lie; thus, the DNA results above should be proof that there were more immigrant Puterbaugh/Buterbaugh lines than just Johann Peter & George. Following is information re the ancestry of #5 and me. Records of the Knowlton, NJ, Presbyterian Church lists the baptisms of George Henrich, Joseph, JOHANNES, Andrew and Joseph. The others are listed in the “History of Monroe County, PA”. George Poterbach, b ca 1757, m Elisa/Elisabetha Barbara Teel. Their sons were: *1) George Henrich Puterbaugh, b 1777, m Effie Henry 2) Joseph Puterbaugh, b 1778, No further information **3) Johannes Puderbaugh, b 1780, m Jane Kishpaugh *1) George Henrich Puterbaugh, b 1777, m Effie Henry. Their children were: A) Andrew Puterbaugh, b 1801, m Hannah Honeywell (my ancestor) B) Joseph Puterbaugh, b 1804, m Clarra __?__ C) Elizabeth Puterbaugh, b before 1810 D) George Puterbaugh, b 1810, m Mary Case Lewis E) Samuel Puterbaugh, b 1812, m 1) Lydia Kocher m 2) Susan Kocher F) John Pewterbaugh, b 1816, m Susan Miller G) Isaac Puterbaugh, b 1822, m Elizabeth George H) Margaret Puterbaugh, b1824, m _____ Card (?) **3) Johannes Puderbaugh, b 1780, m Jane Kishpaugh. Their known sons were: A) Jacob Puderbaugh, b 1810, m 1) Sally Ann Jones m 2) Sarah Patterson (Jacob is the ancestor of #5 above) B) Isaac Puderbaugh, b 1814 – 1817, married four times I believe there are many folks in various parts of the nation whose roots started in New Jersey, those who have thought they descended from Johann Peter. Since the DNA results have disproved this, hopefully, others may be interested in being tested. Daniel Puterbaugh Elaine Bartlebaugh Schenk [email protected] and [email protected]

Dear Julian... Did you get a reply? If not, I can take some photos for you this weekend. Let me know. I'd be happy to help. --Sonya M. Barclay, PhD Candidate Carnegie Mellon University > Hello: > > I am looking to find someone who can take a color photograph of the > exterior of the Temple Beth Israel Jewish synagogue located at 5th & > Washington Streets in Indiana. > > I am researching American Synagogue Architecture and am planning an > e-Book with photos of current and former Jewish temples and synagogues. > Photos credits be given to the photographer. > > I have some photographs of synagogues and temples in Pennsylvania and > would like to be able to include the Jewish temple building from Indiana > as well.. > > If anyone can assist, please let me know. Thanks very much. > > Julian H. Preisler 132 Harvard Court Falling Waters, WV 25419 > [email protected] > > > --------------------------------- Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail > Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send > an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Sorry, on that last message, John L. Rager, is the son of Jacob and Mary, and grandson of Johan Michael Rager, not the son of Jacob and Barbara Garman. Sorry for the mistake. Martha -- RESEARCHING: Edwards; Fronk; Miller; Paul; Pfoutz; Rager; Campbell Life should Not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming... Damn, What A Ride!!

Kathryn, Marylin, Carol, The John L. Rager, son of Jacob and Barbara Garman, and grandson of Jacob and Mary (Unknown), was the great-grandson of Johan Michael Rager (Roger), according to the information I have. I appreciate all your information. Here is the latest I found on Ancestry's newspaper archive: Pennsy. Must Answer for Rager's Death Coroner's Jury Says Railroad Men Erred in Opening Doors. The Train Was Overcrowded Johnstown, Nov. 22--The jury empaneled at South Fork by Coproner W. B. Prothero, of this city, to determine the responsibility for the death of John L. Rager, who fell from a train on his way home from Johnstown on Halloween and died later at the Memorial Hospital, rendered a verdict holding the Pennsylvania Railroad Company responsible for the accident and the subsequent death of Rager. The witnesses examined were Elmer L. McKlowen, the brakeman on the train, and Alfred Schofield and Porter Hill, of South Fork, the later two having been standing on the platform with Rager at the time of the accident. According to the testimony produced, the brakeman asked Rager and several others to step back to open the door of the car, and after the door was opened Rager unconsciously stepped back into the opening. He fell through the floor of the vestibule hallway, and received injuries which resulted in his death. (Indiana County Gazette 1907 November 27.) I'm going to try to see if I can find anything else on the accident on Ancestry, but this was all I could find last night. Martha -- RESEARCHING: Edwards; Fronk; Miller; Paul; Pfoutz; Rager; Campbell Life should Not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming... Damn, What A Ride!!

There is a Pine Run in Washington Twp, Westmoreland Co, PA. It's in the area of Vandergrift, PA. Bobby Suzanne wrote: > Could someone tell me if there is a town called Pine Run near Blairsville, > Indiana County, Pa? I am looking for more information on John A. Hart who > was born in Pine Run on August 27, 1854. Would anyone know if a birth > certificate would have been filed during that time; if so, in what office > would I find that information? John died September 16, 1939 in Blairsville, > Indiana County where he had been living since at least since 1910 with his > wife Emma Thompson Hart. They had five sons and one daughter. He was > buried in Mount Vernon Cemetery, McKeesport, Pa. I am making an assumption > that Pine Run must be near either McKeesport or near Blairsville. Any help > is appreciated. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Could someone tell me if there is a town called Pine Run near Blairsville, Indiana County, Pa? I am looking for more information on John A. Hart who was born in Pine Run on August 27, 1854. Would anyone know if a birth certificate would have been filed during that time; if so, in what office would I find that information? John died September 16, 1939 in Blairsville, Indiana County where he had been living since at least since 1910 with his wife Emma Thompson Hart. They had five sons and one daughter. He was buried in Mount Vernon Cemetery, McKeesport, Pa. I am making an assumption that Pine Run must be near either McKeesport or near Blairsville. Any help is appreciated.

Hello: I am looking to find someone who can take a color photograph of the exterior of the Temple Beth Israel Jewish synagogue located at 5th & Washington Streets in Indiana. I am researching American Synagogue Architecture and am planning an e-Book with photos of current and former Jewish temples and synagogues. Photos credits be given to the photographer. I have some photographs of synagogues and temples in Pennsylvania and would like to be able to include the Jewish temple building from Indiana as well.. If anyone can assist, please let me know. Thanks very much. Julian H. Preisler 132 Harvard Court Falling Waters, WV 25419 [email protected] --------------------------------- Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users.

Shirley, Ella Maude descends from my ancestor Hugh Junkins through their daughter Sarah who married George RAGER. Their youngest son, Joseph B. RAGER had John Tyson RAGER who was the father of Ella. Ella's mother was daughter of Richard Davis DIAS and Susanna MARDIS. Kathryn Doyle Piedmont, CA 1 William David PALMER __________________________________________________ Birth: 23 Dec 1888, Blairsville, Indiana Co., PA Death: Nov 1969 Burial: 1969, Burrell Twp., Indiana Co., PA Burial Memo: Blairsville Cemetery, Section N Occ: Butcher, Retired Meat Cutter Father: David PALMER Mother: Sadie RINES Obituary: Born December 23, 1888, in Derry Twp., he was a son of David and Sadie Rines Palmer. Mr. Palmer was the husband of Ella Rager Palmer who preceded him in death and was a reitred meat cutter by profession. Survivors include one son, Lloyd Martin Palmer, LaMar, Calif.; one daugher, Mrs. [need end] Indiana Evening Gazette Indiana, Pennsylvania Wednesday, November 11, 1964 Spouse: Ella Maude RAGER Birth: 14 Feb 1890, Blairsville, Indiana Co., PA Death: 16 Nov 1945, Bairdstown Precinct, Derry Twp., Westmoreland Co., PA Burial: 1945, Burrell Twp., Indiana Co., PA Burial Memo: Blairsville Cemetery, Section N “w/o Wm D” Father: John Tyson RAGER (1856-1898) Mother: Sarah DIAS (~1854-1900) Obituary: MRS. ELLA MAUDE PALMER, 55, of Bairdstown, died at 2:25 p.m. yesterday in her home. She was born Feb. 14, 1890, in Indiana co., the daughter of the late John Tyson and Sarah (Dias) Rager. Surviving are her husband, William Palmer; one daughter, Miss Regina Palmer, at home and two sons - Lloyd, at home and William, with the Army at Ft. Totten, N.Y. The following brothers and sisters also survive: Cloe and Cecil Rager, Indiana; Frank, Cleveland, Mart, of Blairsville; Mrs. Violet Trainer, Indiana; Mrs. Hulda Jane Frazier, of Cleveland, and Mrs. Frances Larkins, Pittsburgh. Friends will be received in the residence where funeral services will be conducted at 2:30 p.m. Monday. The Rev. John L. Reiner, pastor of the Blairsville Lutheran Church, will officiate. Interment will be in the Blairsville Cemetery under direction of the Hunter Funerl Home, Blairsville. Indiana Evening Gazette Indiana, Pennsylvania Saturday, November 17, 1945 Marr: 28 Aug 1913, Westmoreland Co., PA Children: Regina Lloyd Martin William D. (1921-1960) Original Message: Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:19:13 EDT From: [email protected] Do you have any record of a Ella M. RAGER b 14 Feb 1891 in Blacklick, who m William David PALMER b 23 Dec 1888 in Blairsville. Shirley

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Here are some more RAGERS. If anyone knows who they are, please contact me: HUGH RAGER, one of the oldest and most respected citizens of Burrell township, died last Thursday, December 8. His death was due to heart failure, from which he had been a sufferer for some time. Mr. Rager had been a resident of the vicinity in which he died almost his entire life and was closely identifited with the people and interests of his neighborhood. His wife and several children survive him. He was 74 years of age. (Indiana County Gazette 1892 December 14.) ------------------------------------------------- Mrs. Joseph Rager died at her home near Blacklick on the morning of May 31. The funeral was held on Friday, interment being made in the Lutheran cemetery. (Indiana County Gazette 1893 June 7.) ------------------------------------------------- He Told His Friends to Have a Good Time, and Expired. John Rager, of Jackson township, Cambria county, was watching a couple of his boarders playing checkers last Friday night. He spoke to them saying, "Now boys, have a good time; I will not be with you long." In less than five minutes he fell dead. It is thought heart disease was the cause of his death. (Indiana County Gazette 1894 February 28.) ----------------------------------------------- Mrs. Susan Rager. Mrs. Susan Rager died at the home of her son-in-law, Mr. Thomas Winkleman, near Blacklick, on Thursday morning, February 23. She is survived by one daughter, Mrs. Jennie Winkleman, and three sisters, Mrs. James Rager, of Blairsville, and Harriet and Lucinda Rager, of Blacklick.. That's all for now. Martha -- RESEARCHING: Edwards; Fronk; Miller; Paul; Pfoutz; Rager; Campbell Life should Not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming... Damn, What A Ride!!

FULCOMER -- Dorothy 58, Blairsville, died Oct. 24, 1979, at Latrobe Area Hospital. Born Nov. 12, 1920, in Bolivar, daughter of late John and Eleanor (Burkett) McClellan. Preceded in death by husband, Paul F. Survived by these brothers and sisters: Thomas, England; Mrs. Norma Shirey and Lysle B., both of West Bolivar; Mrs. Alice Beigel, Texas; Richard, Cramer; Forrest, Robinson; Martin, Hampton, Va.; and Mrs. Lorna McKinney, Lockport, Pa. Friends received from 7 to 9 p.m. Thursday and from 2 to 4 and 7 to 9 p.m. Friday at Edward J. Speidel Funeral Home, Bolivar where service will be held at 11 a.m. Saturday, the Rev. Jerry Pugh. Interment, Westview Cemetery. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AlanSaltsman Surnames: SIVERD Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.indiana/3782.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: For those of you considering looking this up I found the folllowing information on PAGenWeb: Green Township East Union Cemetery/Taylorsville Cemetery/Allison Cemetery Green Township is just northeast of the town of Indiana. But I also found a reference to an East Union Cemetery in Buffington Township, Indiana County in a 1913 publication about Indiana County, PA. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Pauline Sisitka Muir Bolivar native survived by husband, children, grandchildren, great grands Pauline Sisitka Muir 82, of Penn Hills died Saturday, April 24, 1999. Mrs. Muir was born Aug. 31, 1917 in Bolivar, daughter of the late Andrew and Susan Bailey Sisitka. Surviving are her husband Lawrence; children Thomas and Ronald; grandchildren Marcia, Jeff, Amy, Christy, and Kelly; Also surviving are great grandchildren Alisha, Andrew, Jonathan, Alan and Theresa; brothers and sisters Julie, Helen, Mary, Annie, Rudy and Joe. Services were held Tuesday in Penn Hills. Interment was in Twin Valley Memorial, Delmont. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Here are somemore of my unknown Ragers. If anyone has a clue as to who they are, please contact me: SIPES-RAGER James N. Sipes and Miss Martha A. Rager, both of Blairsville, were married at the Baptist church at Blairsville on Wednesday by the pastor, Rev. J. Thomas Davis. (Indiana Progress, 1904 May 4.) ----------------------------------------------- Mrs. John Rager Mrs. Margaret Rager, wife of John Rager, died at the home of her son-in-law, Theodore Snyder, in Blairsville, on June 16, aged 89 years. She was a lifelong resident of Indiana county. Mrs. Rager is survived by her husband and eight children. For 43 years the deceased was an active member of the Lutheran church. Funeral services were held on Thursday, interment following in Blairsville cemetery. (Indiana County Gazette, 1908 June 24.) -------------------------------------------------------- ABSOLEM RAGER Absolem Rager of West Indiana, who was taken to Dixmont about two weeks ago, died in that institution last Saturday and was brought home Monday. His remains were interred at Jacksonville Monday afternoon. He was about 73 years of age. (Indiana County Gazette, 1891 May 27. He has a son named Harry.) -------------------------------------------- RAGER-FAITH At Greenville, July 19, by C.W. Empfield, Esq., Mr. Robert D. Rager and Miss Ella Faith, both of Jackson township, Cambria county. (Indiana County Gazette, 1892 August 3.) Martha Humenik -- RESEARCHING: Edwards; Fronk; Miller; Paul; Pfoutz; Rager; Campbell Life should Not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming... Damn, What A Ride!!

Hi Listers, Here are some more of my unknown PAULS. If anyone knows who they are, please contact me: MOXHAM INFANT DIES AT THE SLAGLE HOME Only Child of Mr. and Mrs. A. L. Paul Took Sick in Auto One Week Ago Helen Louise Paul, only child of Austin Leroy and Sue Slagle Paul, of 556 Central avenue, Moxham, died last night at the home of her grandparents, Mr. and Mrs. D. H. Slagle, in Lower Yoder Township, in her third year. The child took sick in an automobile one week ago, when Mr. and Mrs. Paul were on their way from Moxham to Lower Yoder Township to visit the Slagle family. The child caught could and other ailments developed and caused her death at 10:35 o'clock last night. The funeral will take place at 2 o'clock tomorrow afternoon, when services will be conducted by the Rev. L. E. Haviland, pastor of Trinity Evangelical Church, with burial in Grandview Cemetery. The Daily Tribune, Johnstown, Pa, Tuesday Evening, June 24,1913, p. 4, col. 4 ------------------------------------------------- NANT-Y-GLO MAN DIES AT MERCY HOSPITAL John Paul Succumbs Following Operation; Leaves Widow and Children John Paul, aged 45 years, of Nant-y-Glo, died at 5 o'clock yesterday morning at the Mercy Hospital, following an operation for the removal of his appendix. He underwent the operation at eh Eighth ward institution several days ago. The deceased is survived by his widow and nine small children. He was an employee of the Pennsylvania Coal & Coke Corporation. The body was turned over to Undertaker George Ondriezek, of Nant-y-Glo, to prepare for burial. Funeral services will be held at 9 o'clock tomorrow morning in St. Mary's Catholic Church. Interment will be made in the church cemetery. Johnstown Tribune, Monday Evening, June 26, 1922, p. 15 ---------Mrs. Alex Paul Portage, Aug. 18, - Mrs. Alex Paul age 37 years, died at noon yesterday at her home in this place. Following an illness of a complication of diseases. Her parents are dead. Besides her husband she is survived by six children. Funeral services will be held Thursday morning, in the Slovak Church, burial will follow in the church cemetery, in charge of Undertaker Harold Buck. Johnstown Tribune, Aug. 18, 1931, p. 13 [She is listed incorrectly as Mrs. Max Paul on the Johnstown index.] That is all I have for now. Martha -- RESEARCHING: Edwards; Fronk; Miller; Paul; Pfoutz; Rager; Campbell Life should Not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming... Damn, What A Ride!!

Hi Listers, Any ideas on who these PAULS are: Josiah Paul died at his late home in South Fork at 5:10 o'clock last evening, aged fifty-eight years. Malarial fever was the cause of death. Funeral services will be held in the South Fork M.E. Church at 1 o'clock to-morrow afternoon, the Rev. Prosser officiating, and the remains will then be brought to this city on the 2:46 train and interment will be made in Grand-View Cemetery. (Johnstown Tribune, Aug. 10, 1904.) ---------------------------------------- Paul, Lewis, white, male, 8 mos., father-John Paul, mother-Jane F. Paul, born Philipsburg, died Oct. 27, 1895 at North Barnesboro, Pa, cause of death-inflamation of Bowels, lasted one week, burial- Hastings, Oct. 27, 1895, record on Dec. 17, 1895. Registeration of Deaths, Vol. 1, p. 130, Cambria County Courthouse, Ebensburg, PA. ---------------------------------------- Funeral of Mrs. Paul Funeral services for the late Mrs. Elizabeth (Hitchew) Paul, aged 30 years, wife of Daniel Paul of Rockwood, and a daughter of Mr. and Mrs. A. L. Hitchew, of 722 Park avenue, seventeenth Ward, who died at Rockwood on Monday, were held yesterday afternoon in the Lutheran Church at Cairnbrook. Services were in charge of the rev. Mr. Huey, pastor of the Cairnbrook United Brethren Chruch. Interment was made in the Cairnbrook Cemetery. The deceased is survived by her husband, one daughter, Ruth, aged five years, and her parents. Three brothers, Oscar Hitchew, of Detroit, Mich.; Chester and Theodore Hitchew and one sister, Miss Edna Hitchew, all at home, also survive. She was married at Ebensburg eight years ago on Tuesday, and resided at Rockwood since her marriage. Johnstown Tribune, Thursday Evening, March 9, 1922, p. 15 ----------------------------------------- Weekly Democrat, Friday, March 18, 1892 Paul-At South Fork, on Friday morning, March 11, 1892, Austin Paul, aged about 23 years. ---------------------------------------- PAUL BOY'S FUNERAL TAKES PLACE MONDAY Special to The Tribune. South Fork, May 31.- Funeral services of a simple character will be held Monday morning from the home of the great-grandfather, W. W. Paul, for Walter Paul, the 11-year-old boy whose death in a Johnstown hospital yesterday was under pathetic circumstances. W. W. Paul's home is about two miles north of Summerhill. Burial will be in the cemetery on the Christ Ford farm, not far from Summerhill. Johnstown Tribune, Saturday Evening, May 31, 1913, p. 8 He is buried at Ford Cemetery, as Floyd W. Paul, 1902-1913. ------------------------------------------ Martha Humenik -- RESEARCHING: Edwards; Fronk; Miller; Paul; Pfoutz; Rager; Campbell Life should Not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming... Damn, What A Ride!!

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