This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PGP1910 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.indiana/6265.5/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have a long shot I'm going to throw out here--remember it's a stretch. According to the following newpaper article Sadie would have been born about 1860. THE OBSERVER-JOURNAL, Dunkirk, NY Pg. 1 Wednesday, October 19, 1887 Shot His Mistress. PITTSBURGH, Oct. 19.- At ten o'clock last night Sadie Pruner, alias Sadie Jones, was shot and almost instantly killed in the doorway of No 128 Third avenue by Joseph Evans, aged twenty-one years. The woman was twenty-seven years old and had been an inmate of disreputable houses several years. Evans was her lover. They quarreled about a month ago and did not meet again until last night when Evans sent for her. She came to the door of the house and after talking hotly for a few minutes Evans shot her. He was arrested. According to Bert's WW II Draft Registration Card it states he was born in Blair Co. 15 Oct 1877 [indexed as 1878, looks like 1878 was written first then 1877 was written over the 1878] In the 1880 census for Logan Twp., Blair County there is a Henry W. Pruner, age 21 b. PA and his wife Sarah E., age 20 b. PA listed. No children listed. Your are looking for a William and Sadie. Henry W.'s middle name could have been William and Sadie is a nickname for Sarah. Then we come to Bert's birthdate, here is part of the "stretch." Could he have been born in 1880 and that is why he isn't listed? According to his gravestone he was born in 1875--his mother would have been 15 at the time of his birth if you go by her age in the article. The 1877/1878 birth year from the WW II registation is a little better. If it was the 1880's, you were under age 10, faced with the trauma of losing your mother and placed in an orphanage for any length of time, especially if it was years---would you remember how old you were? I saw in an old postings that Bert had siblings, William and Ann. William was b. May 1882 any idea when Ann was born? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CarriPruner Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.indiana/6265.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: No Idea if his name was englebert all I know is he went by bert. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WMKeck Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.indiana/6265.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This may be out in left field but if Bert's obituary is E. Bert Pruner and his tombstone is E(ngle)Bert Pruner could his given name be Englebert or Engelbert....he may have only used Bert...I think I would have done the same if I was named Englebert. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CarriPruner Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.indiana/6265.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Here is Bert's obit says he grew up around cambria area of PA Here's Bert's brother's WWI draft card also if anyone can help any further it will be absolutely appreciated. Thanks to you all for your help thus far Carri Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CarriPruner Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.indiana/6265.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Here is an article on Bert's mom sadie from 10/26/1887 Bert was about 10 then so I pretty sure the name was always Pruner. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RMurray99 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.indiana/6265.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I found your earlier posting on the Pruner board where you mention that Bert was sent to an orphanage after his mother was killed. Could the Pruner name be one that Bert acquired after being adopted? Could he have been born with a different surname? William, Sadie and Bert do not seem to show up in the 1880 census anywhere. I guess that they could have missed out on the count. It wouldn't be the first time that I have had this same problem. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RMurray99 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.indiana/6265.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I seems as if the Pruners were dropped on the earth sometime after 1880 and before 1900. There are several Pruners in 1900 census but it is very difficult to find them in the 1880 records. I suspect that the name was changed or recorded differently in the 1880 and older records. There are no obvious hits for Bert Pruner, born about 1875-1877 in the 1880 census, with parents William and Sadie. Here is a close hit: 1880 Census, Philadelphia, PA, p. 42C Jackson Bruner, 25, Pa, PA, PA, Stevedore Elizabeth, 20, PA, Ger, Ger Albert, 4 Chas, 2 Robert, 9/12 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: vccook Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.indiana/6265.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Nora D. b. 11 Mar. 1908 d. 30 Sep. 1988 Blairsville, Indiana Co., Pa Married Ernest Logan Swasy b. 20 Aug 1888 d. 4 Dec 1971 also in Blairsville, Pa. He was s/o John and Myrtilla (Lyons) Swasy. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RMurray99 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.indiana/6265.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You may already have all of this. May I also suggest that it helps a great deal to include some dates or time frames within you query, i.e. Berts mom was killed in the late 1880's. 1920 Census, White Twp., Indiana Co., PA, p. 233 Family #110/112 Bert Pruner, 45, PA, PA, PA, Foundry Laborer Pearl, 43, PA, PA, PA Clara, 14 Nora, 11 Clair, son, 9 Sadie, 5 Jessie, daughter, 4 1910 Census, White Twp., Indiana Co., PA. p114 Family #40/42 Bert Pruner, 33, m. 12 years, PA, PA, PA, finisher at Ladder Factory Pearl, 30, 6 of 9 children living, PA, PA, PA May, 11 Elsie P., p Grace M., 6 Clara E., 4 Nora D. 2 Clair A, 1/12 1900 Census, 3-Ward Indiana, Indiana Co., PA, p. 74 Family #180/182 936 Wayne Avenue Bart Pruner, Oct 1877. 22, m. 2 yrs, PA, PA, PA, laborer Pearl, Oct 1879, 20, 1 child, PA, PA, PA May, daughter, Mar 1899, 1, PA, PA, PA Greenwood Cem., Indiana, PA Clair W. Pruner, 6 Mar 1910-22 Feb 1954, killed in Ernest Mine Bert Engle Pruner, 1875-5 May 1960 Edward Pruner, s/o Bert, 1913-19 Apr 1913 or 1993 Ethel L. Pruner, w/o Clair W., 21 Sep 1910-19 Apr 1985 Pearl Ann Pruner, 1879 - 3 Jan 1966 or 1967 Sadie Ann Pruner, 1913 - 10 Jun 1929 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CarriPruner Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.indiana/6265/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am researching the Pruner family for my husband. His family mainly that I know of is located in Indiana PA. His great grandfather was Bert Pruner He married a pearl and they had 6 kids. Bert's mother was shot when bert was about 10. he had a brother named william. Bert's mom was named Sadie and his dad's name was William They didn't live in Indiana PA but did live in PA. any help would be appreciated Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Trixebel53 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.indiana/1110.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Do you have any information on Samuel Shannon and Martha Brady. Would appreciate any information on their children. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dciak1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.indiana/6264.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: AHHHH this link worked and there they are! thank you so much! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: janetaba Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.indiana/6264.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Here is the link to Treasures of the Past Genealogy page. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~treasures/ This link worked fine for me today. Hope this helps! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dciak1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.indiana/6264.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I was hoping that someone could tell me it the cemetery is open and if there is an index - the site that has gotten refered to here is a dead link - and in the past it appears to be submitions from users. Does anyone have a link to local society? thank you Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WMKeck Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.indiana/6264.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Debbie, A listing of Gilgal Cemetery can be found at Treasures of the Past under East Mahoning Township, Indiana County. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dciak1 Surnames: GARDNER SCHRECK Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.indiana/6264/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Could anyone tell me if there is an index of this cemetery? I was told that there has not been burials there for a very long time - I am looking for ANY information regarding Lawrence K GARDNER and his burial there in 1977 - his wife Angeline may be there as well - thank you Debbie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.