Herbert A. Ryan, 86, a resident of Woodland Retirement Center, Orbisonia, formerly of Aldsworth Lane, Lucy Furnace, RD#1 Mount Union, died at 2:35 p.m., on Monday, March 28, 2005 at Woodland. He had been in failing health. Funeral services will be conducted on Friday, April 1 at 1:30 p.m. at the Robert D. Heath Funeral Home, Mount Union with Rev. Edward Seeley officiating. Friends may call at the funeral home on Thursday, March 31 from 7-9 p.m. and on Friday from 9 a.m. until the time of the service. Born on July 4, 1918, in Mount Union, he was the son of the late Fred A. and Ruth (Heidel) Ryan. He married Ruth (Kirk) Reeder Ryan on Nov. 28, 1951 in Winchester, VA. She preceded him in death on July 1, 1984.

Vincent A. Noble, 76, of 37 East Milford Street, Mount Union, died on Wednesday morning, March 23, 2005, at the Lewistown Hospital, after 11 years of a courageous battle with cancer. The funeral service was conducted on March 26 at the Robert D. Heath Funeral Home, Mount Union, with Rev. Franklin Moist officiating. Interment was made in Haven Rest Memorial Park, RR1 Shirleysburg. Born on April 13, 1928, in Robertsdale, he was the son of the late Charles A. and Alverta E. (Brown) Noble. He was united in marriage to Joanne (Copenhaver) Noble on March 15, 1970, at the Mount Union Presbyterian Church by the Rev. James Matz. His wife survives along with their daughter, Maxine (Mimi) Johnson and husband Greg of Harrisburg. Also surviving is one grandson, Noah Johnson, and two sisters and a brother: Joan Edlow and husband Jules of Baltimore, Md.; Dorothy Noble and companion Robert Ferguson of Hollidaysburg; and David A. Noble and wife Doris of New Mexico. Mr. Noble was a graduate of Orbisonia High School, Class of 1945. He was retired from PennDOT, as a construction manager, with 42 years of service. He loved his work and had an exceptional work ethic. In his earlier years, Mr. Noble was a machinist and coal tender for the EBT Railroad in Rockhill, when the railroad was fully operational. He was a member of the Mount Union Water Authority and was a Democratic committeeman. He loved to hunt and fish and also loved to garden. Mr. Noble was a member of the Mount Union Presbyterian Church.

I was just wondering if I've been missing out on something all these years... is there a death notice register for the Huntingdon area, perhaps as a newspaper or something? I thought I had to have a death date to find an obit. Of course, if you know the month, you can search the whole month when looking through the old papers on microfilm. Are death "notices" somehow handled differently? Is there an easy way to look these up? Just wondering... Some researchers from out of state have mentioned that their state has such a registry where you can look up a death date to then go and find an obit. If PA or Huntingdon has something similar, I would sure appreciate someone pointing me in the right direction :) Thanks, Deb Quoting Donna Terrian <dgterrian@earthlink.net>: > Looking for an April/May 1900 Death Notice for Mary McClain, who died in > Orbisonia and is buried in Orbisonia Cemetery. Do not have specific death > date, as on her stone is only "1900." > If there is a kind soul who can do a quick death notice look-up for me, > I'd be most grateful! Donna Terrian e-mail:dgterrian@earthlink.net > > For information about subscribing, unsubscribing, and to search or browse the > PAHUNTIN mailing list archived messages, visit > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/PA/huntingdon.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAHUNTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Looking for an April/May 1900 Death Notice for Mary McClain, who died in Orbisonia and is buried in Orbisonia Cemetery. Do not have specific death date, as on her stone is only "1900." If there is a kind soul who can do a quick death notice look-up for me, I'd be most grateful! Donna Terrian e-mail:dgterrian@earthlink.net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kittykate65 Surnames: Schander Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.huntingdon/5736/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Stephen SCHANDER b Austria 1818 wife Victoria ERGLER b 1822 Austria. Came to Huntingdon Co b/t 1848-1854. Children Fannie b 1848, Clarence 1854, Mary 1857, Matilda 1860, Maggie 1865, John 1869. Stephen first worked as a laborer living in Juniata Twp in 1860 and later Henderson, but by 1873 owned a farm in Henderson. Daughter Mary SCHANDER married a John NORTHART of Altoona in 1880. She is the only one of the children I have been able to trace after 1880. The name has also been found as Shanter, Chanter and Sunter. I would like to hear from anyone who might have any connection to this family and would be more than glad to share what information I have. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Dee, I have some information about the murder. There was a story in Rung's Chronicles along with a large picture of the murderers. The boy was Winfield Scott Garner. He was my great-grandmother's brother. This is the family: father-Philip Garner, who died in Salisbury, North Carolina in a prison during the Civil War. mother-Eleanor McCall, daughter of Robert and Martha (Shaw) McCall. and 3 children. 1)Irvin C Garner, 2)Winfield Scott Garner and 3)Annie Barbara Garner. Winfield is buried at the White Church (Jacobs UCC) cemetery in Penn Twp. The tombstone says: Winfield S. son of P & E Garner. murdered with the Peightle family. Nov 16 1869. aged 10 yrs. 1 m. 12 d. In the 1850 census John lived with his brother Isaac. There is also Elizabeth Peightel who is 70 yrs old, who is probably his mother. John's wife Sarahs maiden name was McCall, and she had a brother James who lived in Henderson Twp, Huntingdon Co, I haven't gotten their parents names yet. John & Sarah had at least 3 children, Susanna, Samuel and Henry. There were articles in the Huntingdon Globe at the time of the murder and the trial. You can find the certain years of the Globe online at this address: I http://digitalnewspapers.libraries.psu.edu/Default/welcome.asp?skin=civilwar&QS=skin%3Dcivilwar Hope this helps a little, Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dee Howard" <deeh@pacbell.net> To: "Deb Riley" <dafisher@pennswoods.net> Cc: <Bechtel@rootsweb.com>; <PAHUNTIN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [PAHUNTIN] The Paightel Murders - 1869 > Deb, > > Thanks for your reply. The messages are on Bechtel@rootsweb.com > Are you on that e mail list? You can go to rootsweb and look for mail > lists and enter Bechtel and or Peightal and you can read the messages. > I also have two articles, a picture of the John and Sarah Peightal's > tombstone > from Grove Cemetery in Huntingdon Co., Pa. and a list of items from the > murderers which are on sale on the internet. > > Thanks again, Dee > > > ----- > > For information about subscribing, unsubscribing, and to search or browse > the PAHUNTIN mailing list archived messages, visit > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/PA/huntingdon.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAHUNTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Deb, Thanks for your reply. The messages are on Bechtel@rootsweb.com Are you on that e mail list? You can go to rootsweb and look for mail lists and enter Bechtel and or Peightal and you can read the messages. I also have two articles, a picture of the John and Sarah Peightal's tombstone from Grove Cemetery in Huntingdon Co., Pa. and a list of items from the murderers which are on sale on the internet. Thanks again, Dee -----

Mike, Thanks for posting this. Someone posted the following on the Franklin County list this morning: "I have added the 1630-69 mustter rolls of Londonderry, N. Ireland which contains many ancestral names which can be found in Franklin County to my web site. Go to www.greencastlemuseum.org and on the right click on Ulsterscots and scroll down to the mustter roll. Gordon Crooks" Since at least some folks in Huntingdon County moved from Franklin County, it might be of interest to some. Patti On Mar 2, 2008, at 9:41 AM, Mike Gifford wrote: > > Hi Patti, > Archibald is a different line of McMaths. There has been some > speculation > that Archibald was related to our Daniel McMath but I haven't seen any > documentation about a connection. > > My great-aunt, Elizabeth McMath, corresponded with Frank McMath > while he was > writing his second book and I have some of those letters. I also > have some > letters from a Daniel C. McMath to my great-aunt. Daniel had done a > lot of > research after Frank wrote his 2nd book in the hopes of publishing a > 3rd > McMath book but he never completed it. > > Here is my attempt at a theory based on his letters to my great- > aunt. Like > I say in the paper, it is only theory with no documentation to prove > any of > his assumptions. > > Theories Regarding the Colonial McMath Families > By Mike Gifford, based on the research of Daniel C. McMath > > I have received copies of some correspondence between my great-aunt, > Elizabeth McMath, and Daniel Cary McMath (b. 24 Feb 1880, d. aft > 1961). > Daniel worked diligently on gathering McMath information in order to > publish > a follow up book to Frank McMath's second book on the McMath family. > Apparently Daniel had gathered the necessary information to publish > a book > but was unable to gather the funds to do so. He has presented some > interesting theories regarding some of the colonial McMath families > and I > thought I would summarize some of these theories in the hopes that > we can > prove or disprove them. > > The earliest records of McMaths in the United States are John McMath > of > Virginia, Joseph McMath of Georgia, and William and James McMath in > Pennsylvania. According to family history, John McMath left a > brother in the > north when he traveled to Virginia where he is found by at least > 1730. John > was a reader for at least two or three Episcopal Churches in > Virginia who > had no pastors. Joseph McMath of Georgia seems to be a different > Joseph > McMath than the one born in Pennsylvania and who participated in the > Revolution. This Joseph McMath was born in Scotland in 1699 and died > in > Georgia in 1789. William McMath of Pennsylvania had a servant in his > home > which generally indicates a person of importance and James McMath > was an inn > keeper whose successor obtained license to continue in 1742. As > these names > are all common in the McMath family who had a custom of naming their > children after relatives there is a good possibility that these > individuals > may be related, possibly brothers. > > During the 1750's we have the second Joseph McMath of Georgia being > born, > possibly in Pennsylvania. Daniel had received several letters from > descendants of this Joseph who were convinced that Joseph was born in > Pennsylvania. Daniel thought that Joseph might be a son of William > McMath in > Pennsylvania who may have been related to Joseph McMath of Georgia > (the one > born in 1699). Thus the Joseph born in 1750 may have went to Georgia > to join > up with his uncle, Joseph, already there. > > Also in the 1750's we have the arrival of Alla McMath and Daniel > McMath to > Chester County, Pennsylvania where William and James listed in the > previous > paragraph were known to have lived. Alla McMath was the son of > Archibald > McMath who was born in Scotland, went to Ireland and married there > and had > three children, Daniel, Alla and Mary. Archibald and his son Daniel (a > seminary student who died at age 20 in Ireland) had died prior to > 1750 when > Alla and Mary started for the colonies. Mary died aboard ship during > the > voyage. Daniel arrived later in the 1750's also settling in Chester > County, > PA. > > Daniel C. was a descendant of Daniel McMath as am I. He had some > interesting > theories regarding the relationships between Daniel and Alla and > some later > McMath arrivals to the United States. His theories are based > primarily on > letters from other McMath descendants though he may have had > documentation. > Since it is unknown what type of documentation Daniel C. may have > had I am > considering his views theory only until some supporting evidence may > be > found. > > Daniel C. was of the opinion that Daniel McMath may have been an > uncle or > first cousin to Alla McMath. A little history about Daniel and his > family > according to Daniel C. may be necessary to see this connection. Daniel > McMath was probably born about 1717 in Scotland. The most likely > location > for his birth is Dumfriesshire or Ayrshire Scotland. He apparently > left Ayr, > Scotland in 1758 for his voyage to the United States with his wife, > sons > William and Daniel, Jr. and several daughters who are unnamed. > Daniel left > two of his sons, John and Samuel, with his brother Thomas who was a > linen > merchant in Ireland. Samuel married Ella Baxter from Dublin, Ireland > and he > and his wife and young daughter Nancy joined his father, Daniel, in > Pennsylvania sometime between 1767 and 1772. John remained with his > Uncle > Thomas in Ireland and joined him in the linen business. > > John had a fairly large family in Ireland with sons named John, Jr., > Alexander, William, Matthew and George. John, Jr. was a blacksmith who > immigrated with his brother Alexander between 1780 or 1789. John, Jr. > married Rebecca Simpson who was an aunt of Ulysses S. Grant about > 1789 and > lived with his family in Pennsylvania. Alexander settled in Plum > Township, > Allegheny County, PA and still has descendants in that area. William, > Matthew and George are all believed to have come over together at > another > date and settled in North Carolina probably in Chatham County, NC > where > there were already some McMaths. A descendant of William indicates > that > three brothers came over together from Ireland and that they have > McMath and > Clark Revolutionary War ancestors. As Daniel was the only known > McMath to > have fought in the Revolution and to have descendants in Ireland > this helps > to lend weight to the theory of Daniel C. Matthew remained in > Ireland with > his father John and joined him in the linen business but a son of his, > James, settled in Meadville, PA where he was a brick and stone > mason. He > lived in a large stone house in the 1840's and 1850's with several > children > some of whom were Martha, Mattie and Richard. This stone house was a > frequent gathering place of Alla McMath, II and his brother Michael, > by Rev. > Robert McMath, and Judge Jesse McMath from Cleveland. The high > number of > visits from descendants of Alla McMath seemed to Daniel C. to > indicate some > relationship between the families of Alla and Daniel McMath. > > Daniel C. had received a letter from Alma McMath of Rochester, NY in > which > she related a visit to her mother, from two McMath lady cousins of > Meadville, who presented her mother with a fancy linen shawl. These > lady > cousins were Martha and Mattie and Daniel C. thought that they > indicated a > relationship between the descendants of Alla and Daniel McMath and > some > relationship to Thomas McMath of Ireland. There is also the > interesting > naming of Archibald McMath's oldest son of Daniel. > > Daniel C. is a descendant of Daniel through his son James who was > the only > of the Daniel's children to be born in the United States. James' > descendants > can be found primarily in the state of Ohio. > > -----Original Message----- > From: pahuntin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pahuntin-bounces@rootsweb.com > ] > On Behalf Of Patti Hobbs > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 4:58 PM > To: genealogy@giffords.org > Subject: Re: [PAHUNTIN] McMath - Waters > > > > I just checked out that McMath book on Heritage Quest and I found it > interesting because it seems to be a totally different family than our > western Pennsylvania McMaths even though there are some common given > names. I'd be interested to hear what Mike Gifford knows of that > family and how and if they relate to the Samuel McMath family of > Franklin/Huntingdon County, PA. > > Patti > > > On Feb 25, 2008, at 11:43 AM, Kathryn M. Doyle wrote: > >> indeed the son of John McMATH (1787-1880) and Catherine WHITE >> (1801-1864). >> >> I found a book of the family on Heritage Quest: >> "Memorials of the McMath family: including a genealogical account of >> the descendants of Archibald McMath, who was born in Scotland about >> the year 1700," John Mortimer McMath, Detroit: Speaker Print. Co., >> 1898-1937, 570 pgs., heritagequest.com. >> >> I noted a couple more of your recent posts and think I have more for >> you. >> >> Later, >> Kathryn >> _ >> Kathryn Doyle >> >> check out my new blog for the California Genealogical Society >> http://calgensoc.blogspot.com/ >> >> > > > For information about subscribing, unsubscribing, and to search or > browse > the PAHUNTIN mailing list archived messages, visit > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/PA/huntingdon.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAHUNTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > For information about subscribing, unsubscribing, and to search or > browse the PAHUNTIN mailing list archived messages, visit http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/PA/huntingdon.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAHUNTIN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

If you have an interest in the Peightal Murders which tragically involved John and Sarah Peightal and a lad of 10 years who was working on their farm in Woodcock Valley, Huntingdon Co.,Pa. in November 1869 there have been some e mail messages from me and replies on the Bechtel rootsweb mailing list. I tried to include the Huntingdon rootsweb list on my message but made an error in the web address. I wish to learn how were the parents of the murdered couple and child who was with them on the evening of November 17, 1869 when two robbers took their lives in search of the money Mr. Peightal was supposed to have hidden around his home. I can share information about this event and would appreciate any help in identifing the people as stated above. Dee

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mikeandcim Surnames: Mothersbaugh Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.huntingdon/1925.1930/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Jesse John was brother to my 4 greats grandad, Samuel Mothersbaugh; also John (P?), James, and possibly George-born in Ohio. John was in Colombianna County, OH during 1830's. Samuel married in Alexandria, PA moving to Ohio, then Missouri-will look for post as email has to be updated.-Michael E. Mothersbaugh Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello Fellow Listers: I've just found some descrepancies on Ancestry.com with the genealogy that has been posted for the George and Isabella WARREN HELLER Family. Please understand that I am not criticizing or critiquing this posted research - I am very glad for it and appreciate the time and effort on my fellow researchers' part... and wish to THANK all those who do post their findings and research! The problem appears to arrise with the two sons, Edwin A. (Augustus) (b.1825-1830) and Edward A.(Augustus?) (b.1841-1843). I believe there are some researchers who have the two sons' information/marriages switched. My first "red flag" was when I found Edward (b.1841) still living with his parents in Brady Twp., Huntingdon Co. and single during the 1860 Census - when some fellow-researchers have him married in 1857 to a Susanna SHULTZ. At this same time - on the same census - his brother, Edwin (who was found as Augusta) was living in Catharine Twp., Blair Co., PA. and married to a Susan (probably Susanne Shultz?). The following info from census records: 1850 Catharine Twp., Blair Co., PA. - 8-Aug-1850 (written along the side of the census sheet - "Furnace") HELLER George 52 laborer " Isabella 48 " Edwin A. 20 laborer " Thoms. 17 " Lovina 15 " Rachel 13 attended school within the year " Edward U. 7 " " " " " John A. 5 " Mary M. 6/12 1860 Brady Twp., Huntingdon Co., PA. - PO: Mt. Union - 24-Jul-1860 HELLAR George 63 laborer PE$.50 " Isabella 52 " Edward 19 laborer " John 17 laborer " Mary M. 10 attended school within the year " Lucetta I. 9 " " " " 1860 Catharine Twp., Blair Co., PA. - PO: Bellow Springs - 19-Jul-1860 HELLER Augusta 35 furnace keeper PE$.50 " Susan 30 " George 8 " Thomas 6 " William 1 Is anyone else working on this HELLER family? I am hoping that someone else can confirm or disprove my thoughts on this family... please understand that I am always open to suggestions and corrections. Thanks in advance. Donna Heller Zinn of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA.

Hi Patti, Archibald is a different line of McMaths. There has been some speculation that Archibald was related to our Daniel McMath but I haven't seen any documentation about a connection. My great-aunt, Elizabeth McMath, corresponded with Frank McMath while he was writing his second book and I have some of those letters. I also have some letters from a Daniel C. McMath to my great-aunt. Daniel had done a lot of research after Frank wrote his 2nd book in the hopes of publishing a 3rd McMath book but he never completed it. Here is my attempt at a theory based on his letters to my great-aunt. Like I say in the paper, it is only theory with no documentation to prove any of his assumptions. Theories Regarding the Colonial McMath Families By Mike Gifford, based on the research of Daniel C. McMath I have received copies of some correspondence between my great-aunt, Elizabeth McMath, and Daniel Cary McMath (b. 24 Feb 1880, d. aft 1961). Daniel worked diligently on gathering McMath information in order to publish a follow up book to Frank McMath's second book on the McMath family. Apparently Daniel had gathered the necessary information to publish a book but was unable to gather the funds to do so. He has presented some interesting theories regarding some of the colonial McMath families and I thought I would summarize some of these theories in the hopes that we can prove or disprove them. The earliest records of McMaths in the United States are John McMath of Virginia, Joseph McMath of Georgia, and William and James McMath in Pennsylvania. According to family history, John McMath left a brother in the north when he traveled to Virginia where he is found by at least 1730. John was a reader for at least two or three Episcopal Churches in Virginia who had no pastors. Joseph McMath of Georgia seems to be a different Joseph McMath than the one born in Pennsylvania and who participated in the Revolution. This Joseph McMath was born in Scotland in 1699 and died in Georgia in 1789. William McMath of Pennsylvania had a servant in his home which generally indicates a person of importance and James McMath was an inn keeper whose successor obtained license to continue in 1742. As these names are all common in the McMath family who had a custom of naming their children after relatives there is a good possibility that these individuals may be related, possibly brothers. During the 1750's we have the second Joseph McMath of Georgia being born, possibly in Pennsylvania. Daniel had received several letters from descendants of this Joseph who were convinced that Joseph was born in Pennsylvania. Daniel thought that Joseph might be a son of William McMath in Pennsylvania who may have been related to Joseph McMath of Georgia (the one born in 1699). Thus the Joseph born in 1750 may have went to Georgia to join up with his uncle, Joseph, already there. Also in the 1750's we have the arrival of Alla McMath and Daniel McMath to Chester County, Pennsylvania where William and James listed in the previous paragraph were known to have lived. Alla McMath was the son of Archibald McMath who was born in Scotland, went to Ireland and married there and had three children, Daniel, Alla and Mary. Archibald and his son Daniel (a seminary student who died at age 20 in Ireland) had died prior to 1750 when Alla and Mary started for the colonies. Mary died aboard ship during the voyage. Daniel arrived later in the 1750's also settling in Chester County, PA. Daniel C. was a descendant of Daniel McMath as am I. He had some interesting theories regarding the relationships between Daniel and Alla and some later McMath arrivals to the United States. His theories are based primarily on letters from other McMath descendants though he may have had documentation. Since it is unknown what type of documentation Daniel C. may have had I am considering his views theory only until some supporting evidence may be found. Daniel C. was of the opinion that Daniel McMath may have been an uncle or first cousin to Alla McMath. A little history about Daniel and his family according to Daniel C. may be necessary to see this connection. Daniel McMath was probably born about 1717 in Scotland. The most likely location for his birth is Dumfriesshire or Ayrshire Scotland. He apparently left Ayr, Scotland in 1758 for his voyage to the United States with his wife, sons William and Daniel, Jr. and several daughters who are unnamed. Daniel left two of his sons, John and Samuel, with his brother Thomas who was a linen merchant in Ireland. Samuel married Ella Baxter from Dublin, Ireland and he and his wife and young daughter Nancy joined his father, Daniel, in Pennsylvania sometime between 1767 and 1772. John remained with his Uncle Thomas in Ireland and joined him in the linen business. John had a fairly large family in Ireland with sons named John, Jr., Alexander, William, Matthew and George. John, Jr. was a blacksmith who immigrated with his brother Alexander between 1780 or 1789. John, Jr. married Rebecca Simpson who was an aunt of Ulysses S. Grant about 1789 and lived with his family in Pennsylvania. Alexander settled in Plum Township, Allegheny County, PA and still has descendants in that area. William, Matthew and George are all believed to have come over together at another date and settled in North Carolina probably in Chatham County, NC where there were already some McMaths. A descendant of William indicates that three brothers came over together from Ireland and that they have McMath and Clark Revolutionary War ancestors. As Daniel was the only known McMath to have fought in the Revolution and to have descendants in Ireland this helps to lend weight to the theory of Daniel C. Matthew remained in Ireland with his father John and joined him in the linen business but a son of his, James, settled in Meadville, PA where he was a brick and stone mason. He lived in a large stone house in the 1840's and 1850's with several children some of whom were Martha, Mattie and Richard. This stone house was a frequent gathering place of Alla McMath, II and his brother Michael, by Rev. Robert McMath, and Judge Jesse McMath from Cleveland. The high number of visits from descendants of Alla McMath seemed to Daniel C. to indicate some relationship between the families of Alla and Daniel McMath. Daniel C. had received a letter from Alma McMath of Rochester, NY in which she related a visit to her mother, from two McMath lady cousins of Meadville, who presented her mother with a fancy linen shawl. These lady cousins were Martha and Mattie and Daniel C. thought that they indicated a relationship between the descendants of Alla and Daniel McMath and some relationship to Thomas McMath of Ireland. There is also the interesting naming of Archibald McMath's oldest son of Daniel. Daniel C. is a descendant of Daniel through his son James who was the only of the Daniel's children to be born in the United States. James' descendants can be found primarily in the state of Ohio. -----Original Message----- From: pahuntin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pahuntin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Patti Hobbs Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 4:58 PM To: genealogy@giffords.org Subject: Re: [PAHUNTIN] McMath - Waters I just checked out that McMath book on Heritage Quest and I found it interesting because it seems to be a totally different family than our western Pennsylvania McMaths even though there are some common given names. I'd be interested to hear what Mike Gifford knows of that family and how and if they relate to the Samuel McMath family of Franklin/Huntingdon County, PA. Patti On Feb 25, 2008, at 11:43 AM, Kathryn M. Doyle wrote: > indeed the son of John McMATH (1787-1880) and Catherine WHITE > (1801-1864). > > I found a book of the family on Heritage Quest: > "Memorials of the McMath family: including a genealogical account of > the descendants of Archibald McMath, who was born in Scotland about > the year 1700," John Mortimer McMath, Detroit: Speaker Print. Co., > 1898-1937, 570 pgs., heritagequest.com. > > I noted a couple more of your recent posts and think I have more for > you. > > Later, > Kathryn > _ > Kathryn Doyle > > check out my new blog for the California Genealogical Society > http://calgensoc.blogspot.com/ > > For information about subscribing, unsubscribing, and to search or browse the PAHUNTIN mailing list archived messages, visit http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/PA/huntingdon.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAHUNTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jeoffswbellnet Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.huntingdon/631.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My ancestor was catherine kyper, md to william richardson in huntingdon county jeoff@swbell.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Samuel P. "Bud" Mansberger Jr., 72, of Calvin, died at 5:20 p.m., Wednesday, March 23, 2005, at West Penn Hospital, Pittsburgh. Funeral services were held March 26 at the Calvin United Methodist Church with Rev. Donald Henderson officiating. Interment was made at the Trough Creek Valley Baptist Cemetery, RD Calvin. Funeral arrangements were under the direction of the Martin R. Brown Funeral Home, Orbisonia. Born Dec. 11, 1932, at Huntingdon, he was the son of the late Samuel P. and Jennie (Numer) Mansberger Sr. He was married to the former Patricia J. Kelley on July 31, 1955. Mrs. Mansberger survives at their home. Also surviving are the following children: LouAnne MansbergerDarby and husband Randall of Blairs Mills; Pastor Daniel Mansberger and wife Tresa of Calvin; Tammy von Mansberg and husband Mark of RD Mount Union; Lt. Col. Samuel P. Mansberger III and wife Frances of Woodbridge, Va.; and Dr. James Mansberger and his wife Elizabeth of Huntingdon. Mr. Mansberger is survived by 12 grandchildren; one great-grandson; and one brother, J. William "Bill" Mansberger of Patton. He was preceded in death by two grandchildren and one sister. Mr. Mansberger was a member of the Calvin United Methodist Church where he had been active in various leadership positions. At one time he was active with Troop 215, Boy Scouts of America, Calvin; the Trough Creek Valley Volunteer Fire Company; and the Trough Creek Valley Promise Keepers. He retired from SCI Huntingdon. Prior to that he was employed at the Masonic Homes, Elizabethtown. Mr. Mansberger was a veteran of the U.S. Army serving in Korea from 1953-1955. He was an avid hunter, enjoyed all types of sports and especially liked attending his grandchildren's sporting events. He was very loving and devoted to his family. ************************************* Valley Log March 30, 2005

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jeh1623 Surnames: Clark Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.huntingdon/5735/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Help! I seek confirmation of birth and parentage of Jacob Clark, born 01/22/1799 in Pennsylvania, possibly Huntingdon County area. Married Rachel (Ulm, Wollam, Villom, Ollam, ...) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I just wanted to say thank you to all the people who have responded to my emails on the Yeager family. Without the help you have given I would not have all the information I do now. You are all such wonderful and giving people. Thank you!!!! Cindy in NC

Hi Patti, Archibald is a different line of McMaths. There has been some speculation that Archibald was related to our Daniel McMath but I haven't seen any documentation about a connection. My great-aunt, Elizabeth McMath, corresponded with Frank McMath while he was writing his second book and I have some of those letters. I also have some letters from a Daniel C. McMath to my great-aunt. Daniel had done a lot of research after Frank wrote his 2nd book in the hopes of publishing a 3rd McMath book but he never completed it. Here is my attempt at a theory based on his letters to my great-aunt. Like I say in the paper, it is only theory with no documentation to prove any of his assumptions. Theories Regarding the Colonial McMath Families By Mike Gifford, based on the research of Daniel C. McMath I have received copies of some correspondence between my great-aunt, Elizabeth McMath, and Daniel Cary McMath (b. 24 Feb 1880, d. aft 1961). Daniel worked diligently on gathering McMath information in order to publish a follow up book to Frank McMath's second book on the McMath family. Apparently Daniel had gathered the necessary information to publish a book but was unable to gather the funds to do so. He has presented some interesting theories regarding some of the colonial McMath families and I thought I would summarize some of these theories in the hopes that we can prove or disprove them. The earliest records of McMaths in the United States are John McMath of Virginia, Joseph McMath of Georgia, and William and James McMath in Pennsylvania. According to family history, John McMath left a brother in the north when he traveled to Virginia where he is found by at least 1730. John was a reader for at least two or three Episcopal Churches in Virginia who had no pastors. Joseph McMath of Georgia seems to be a different Joseph McMath than the one born in Pennsylvania and who participated in the Revolution. This Joseph McMath was born in Scotland in 1699 and died in Georgia in 1789. William McMath of Pennsylvania had a servant in his home which generally indicates a person of importance and James McMath was an inn keeper whose successor obtained license to continue in 1742. As these names are all common in the McMath family who had a custom of naming their children after relatives there is a good possibility that these individuals may be related, possibly brothers. During the 1750's we have the second Joseph McMath of Georgia being born, possibly in Pennsylvania. Daniel had received several letters from descendants of this Joseph who were convinced that Joseph was born in Pennsylvania. Daniel thought that Joseph might be a son of William McMath in Pennsylvania who may have been related to Joseph McMath of Georgia (the one born in 1699). Thus the Joseph born in 1750 may have went to Georgia to join up with his uncle, Joseph, already there. Also in the 1750's we have the arrival of Alla McMath and Daniel McMath to Chester County, Pennsylvania where William and James listed in the previous paragraph were known to have lived. Alla McMath was the son of Archibald McMath who was born in Scotland, went to Ireland and married there and had three children, Daniel, Alla and Mary. Archibald and his son Daniel (a seminary student who died at age 20 in Ireland) had died prior to 1750 when Alla and Mary started for the colonies. Mary died aboard ship during the voyage. Daniel arrived later in the 1750's also settling in Chester County, PA. Daniel C. was a descendant of Daniel McMath as am I. He had some interesting theories regarding the relationships between Daniel and Alla and some later McMath arrivals to the United States. His theories are based primarily on letters from other McMath descendants though he may have had documentation. Since it is unknown what type of documentation Daniel C. may have had I am considering his views theory only until some supporting evidence may be found. Daniel C. was of the opinion that Daniel McMath may have been an uncle or first cousin to Alla McMath. A little history about Daniel and his family according to Daniel C. may be necessary to see this connection. Daniel McMath was probably born about 1717 in Scotland. The most likely location for his birth is Dumfriesshire or Ayrshire Scotland. He apparently left Ayr, Scotland in 1758 for his voyage to the United States with his wife, sons William and Daniel, Jr. and several daughters who are unnamed. Daniel left two of his sons, John and Samuel, with his brother Thomas who was a linen merchant in Ireland. Samuel married Ella Baxter from Dublin, Ireland and he and his wife and young daughter Nancy joined his father, Daniel, in Pennsylvania sometime between 1767 and 1772. John remained with his Uncle Thomas in Ireland and joined him in the linen business. John had a fairly large family in Ireland with sons named John, Jr., Alexander, William, Matthew and George. John, Jr. was a blacksmith who immigrated with his brother Alexander between 1780 or 1789. John, Jr. married Rebecca Simpson who was an aunt of Ulysses S. Grant about 1789 and lived with his family in Pennsylvania. Alexander settled in Plum Township, Allegheny County, PA and still has descendants in that area. William, Matthew and George are all believed to have come over together at another date and settled in North Carolina probably in Chatham County, NC where there were already some McMaths. A descendant of William indicates that three brothers came over together from Ireland and that they have McMath and Clark Revolutionary War ancestors. As Daniel was the only known McMath to have fought in the Revolution and to have descendants in Ireland this helps to lend weight to the theory of Daniel C. Matthew remained in Ireland with his father John and joined him in the linen business but a son of his, James, settled in Meadville, PA where he was a brick and stone mason. He lived in a large stone house in the 1840's and 1850's with several children some of whom were Martha, Mattie and Richard. This stone house was a frequent gathering place of Alla McMath, II and his brother Michael, by Rev. Robert McMath, and Judge Jesse McMath from Cleveland. The high number of visits from descendants of Alla McMath seemed to Daniel C. to indicate some relationship between the families of Alla and Daniel McMath. Daniel C. had received a letter from Alma McMath of Rochester, NY in which she related a visit to her mother, from two McMath lady cousins of Meadville, who presented her mother with a fancy linen shawl. These lady cousins were Martha and Mattie and Daniel C. thought that they indicated a relationship between the descendants of Alla and Daniel McMath and some relationship to Thomas McMath of Ireland. There is also the interesting naming of Archibald McMath's oldest son of Daniel. Daniel C. is a descendant of Daniel through his son James who was the only of the Daniel's children to be born in the United States. James' descendants can be found primarily in the state of Ohio. -----Original Message----- From: pahuntin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pahuntin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Patti Hobbs Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 4:58 PM To: genealogy@giffords.org Subject: Re: [PAHUNTIN] McMath - Waters I just checked out that McMath book on Heritage Quest and I found it interesting because it seems to be a totally different family than our western Pennsylvania McMaths even though there are some common given names. I'd be interested to hear what Mike Gifford knows of that family and how and if they relate to the Samuel McMath family of Franklin/Huntingdon County, PA. Patti On Feb 25, 2008, at 11:43 AM, Kathryn M. Doyle wrote: > indeed the son of John McMATH (1787-1880) and Catherine WHITE > (1801-1864). > > I found a book of the family on Heritage Quest: > "Memorials of the McMath family: including a genealogical account of > the descendants of Archibald McMath, who was born in Scotland about > the year 1700," John Mortimer McMath, Detroit: Speaker Print. Co., > 1898-1937, 570 pgs., heritagequest.com. > > I noted a couple more of your recent posts and think I have more for > you. > > Later, > Kathryn > _ > Kathryn Doyle > > check out my new blog for the California Genealogical Society > http://calgensoc.blogspot.com/ > > For information about subscribing, unsubscribing, and to search or browse the PAHUNTIN mailing list archived messages, visit http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/PA/huntingdon.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAHUNTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Patti, Sorry, I thought that my citation included the page number. The book is a collection of several McMATH families. I didn't spend enough time to see how the author tied them together. (My interest is the WATERS connection.) The section on Samuel McMATH of Huntingdon Co. begins on page 188 of vol. 2. The first part of the passage is written by Elizabeth McMATH, daughter of William Lynas McMATH. His 1942 obituary: William L. MCMATH died at his late home in Shade Valley, on Wednesday night, December, 9, 1942, at 9:25 o’clock. He had been in failing health for several years but was usually able to take a daily walk about his farm, until he contracted a cold two weeks ago. His condition became critical when pneumonia set in last Monday. He was the youngest of seven children born to William Simpson MCMATH and Elizabeth Waters MCMATH, and was born August 27, 1870, in the same house in which he has always lived. He was the last of his family as his sister, Margaret MCMATH MCVEY died one month before, on Nov. 9, 1942. He was a direct descendent of Samuel MCMATH, who served in the Revolutionary War and was the first settler in Tell township. Mr. MCMATH derived great pleasure in his association with his family and friends, being both humorous and musical. He had a very high regard for truth and justice which he practiced in his daily life and taught to his children and grandchildren by word and example. He had a deep interest in anything pertaining to the betterment of his community. He served as justice of the peace for six years and later as school director for six years. He was always ready to lend a helping hand to friends and neighbors and no poor person ever went away from his door hungry or cold. Mr. MCMATH was united in marriage with Mary Blanche STARR on April 13, 1896, in St. Mary’s Church, Shade Valley, by Rev. Thomas WALSH. His wife and the following children survive him: Elizabeth, Bernard, Samuel, John Edward of Shade Valley; Marcella MCMATH FLEMING, of Orbisonia; Genevieve MCMATH JOHNSON, of Rogrsburg, Pa. Also surviving him are eighteen grandchildren most of whom visited him daily. Mr. MCMATH was a faithful member of St. Mary’s Catholic Church from which he was buried on Saturday morning, Dec. 12, at 10:30 o’clock with a requiem mass celebrated by Rev. Alphonse SOBOTA. Interment in St. Mary’s cemetery adjourning, directed by Behel funeral service. [http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/huntingdon/obits/huntingdonobits20.txt] Kathryn ----- Original Message ---- Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:58:20 -0600 From: Patti Hobbs <genealogy@hobbits8.com> Subject: Re: [PAHUNTIN] McMath - Waters I just checked out that McMath book on Heritage Quest and I found it interesting because it seems to be a totally different family than our western Pennsylvania McMaths even though there are some common given names. I'd be interested to hear what Mike Gifford knows of that family and how and if they relate to the Samuel McMath family of Franklin/Huntingdon County, PA. Patti On Feb 25, 2008, at 11:43 AM, Kathryn M. Doyle wrote: > indeed the son of John McMATH (1787-1880) and Catherine WHITE > (1801-1864). > > I found a book of the family on Heritage Quest: > ?Memorials of the McMath family: including a genealogical account of > the descendants of Archibald McMath, who was born in Scotland about > the year 1700,? John Mortimer McMath, Detroit: Speaker Print. Co., > 1898-1937, 570 pgs., heritagequest.com. > > I noted a couple more of your recent posts and think I have more for > you. > > Later, > Kathryn > _ > Kathryn Doyle > > check out my new blog for the California Genealogical Society > http://calgensoc.blogspot.com/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: suelong2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.huntingdon/1812.1.1.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: It's always fun to meet a new cousin. (The minister David Long that you met was my uncle.) I have quite a bit of information on the LaPorte family, as well as the families of Conrad, Watson, and Jones that they married into. Here's a piece to get started. Anson Parson LaPorte was the fifth son of John and Mary Ann LaPorte. He and Nancy A. Watson were married in 1864 in Altoona by Rev. William Mills. According to my grandmother Ada LaPorte Long, Anson worked for the Carnegie Company at one time and had an opportunity to go to Pittsburgh with Carnegie, but refused, thereby missing a chance to make the family fortune. From his veteran's records we know that Anson served in the Civil War. He enlisted in 1864 in Hollidaysburg, giving his occupation as carpenter. His papers describe him as 5' 8", with gray eyes, light hair and a fair complexion. He later claimed a pension based on a fractured ankle caused by a fall at the Battle of Fort Steadman, Petersburg, Va. on March 25, 1865. After the war he worked as a wagon maker and carpenter. He and Nancy lived at first with her father in Franklin Township, Huntingdon County, later moved to Centre County for a time, then ended up in Tyson. They had seven children who lived to adulthood: Harry, Ella, Charles, Caroline, Margaret, Mary Ann, and Emma Florence. Nancy died in 1906 of TB; Anson died in 1913. They are buried in Tyrone Cemetery. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Message: 3 Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:36:15 -0000 From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [PAHUNTIN] Huntingdon Co. LaPorte Family To: <PAHUNTIN-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <1203561377.567727@rootsweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: suelong2 Surnames: LaPorte Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties .huntingdon/1812.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am also descended from Anson LaPorte, through his son Harry. I have a lot of information on the family that I would be happy to share. According to my research we are not directly descended from Bartholomew Laporte of Azilum, although we might be descended from his supposed brother John. Anson had a pretty interesting family. One of his brothers got drunk and murdered his best friend and was convicted in a sensational murder trial. Another one of his brothers never recovered from his Civil War experience and died in an asylum. And so forth. ---------- I found this information most interesting as I came across Jack LaPorte when I was researching James Irvin. It was written up in "Echos in Warrior Mark" which states Jack spent six years in prison and then returned to Tyrone. He died in 1907 and is buried in Graysville Cemetery. Betty in TN **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)