F. Gates Smithfield Township, Huntingdon Co., Pa Proprietor Gates Motor Co.: Born at Mill Creek, Pa., March 21, 1896, a son of D.B. Gates, a telegraph operator with the P.R.R.; has been for forty-one years. He married Annie Tate, of MIll Creek, Pa. where they both reside. F. Gates began his early school career at the Huntingdon High School; took a business course at Juniata College in 1913. For four and one-half years was an auto salesman, selling the Chevrolet car, and was for four years with the Wilson Garage. He is at present proprietor of the Gates Motor Co. He served in the World War. Enlisted at Huntingdon, Pa., in September, 1917, and went to Camp Lee, Va., where he was assigned to the 80th Division, infantry arm of the service, as bayonet and boxing instructor. Also instructor in calisthenics there for duration of war. Started as private and finished as lieutenant; discharged in 1919. Belongs to the Democratic party. A member of the A.A.A. He has one brother, B.M. Gates, an electrician with the Penna. R.! R., Altoona, Pa. He was married to Harriet Heiges, a daughter of S.C. Heiges, of Huntingdon, Pa. Mr. Gates is a progressive business man. He is the representative of Oakland and Pontiac automobiles. These dependable pleasure cars need no introduction to the public, as their dependability has been recognized.

J.H. Gibboney Huntingdon, Pa. Foreman: Born at Clappertown, Blair Co., Pa., Sept. 30, 1893. A son of E.S. Gibboney, general foreman at Saxton, Pa. Car Department, H.B.T.R.R.; has been with railroad company for thirty years; is President of Huntingdon Borough Council. Has been a district president of the P.O.S. of A. He married Mary Johnson; they both live at Huntingdon, Pa. J.H. Gibboney first attended the Second Ward schools of Huntingdon, Pa., and later on the grade schools of Saxton, Pa. He has been a fireman of the H.& B.T.R.R.; also the Penna. R.R.; is a carpenter; a car repair man for six years, fo the H.&B.T.R.R.; and for one year a foreman for the same railroad. He has three sisters: Josephine, married to Joe Maline, a postal clerk at Hollidaysburg, Pa.; Muriel, married to Dr. Carl Thenebe, a resident physician at Isolation Hospital at Hartford, Conn.; Thelma, at home. J.H. Gibboney was married to Delia Speck, a daughter of Truman and Rachel Speck; both reside in Juniata Township. Mr. a! nd Mrs. Gibboney have one son, Fred, fourteen years of age, in Alfarata school, Huntingdon, Pa.; Jean, eleven years, in Alfarata school, Huntingdon, Pa.

Philip Graffius Huntingdon, Pa. Restaurant: Huntingdon, Pa. Born April, 1850, in Porter Township, Huntingdon Co., Pa. Educated in Porter Township. A son of Henry Graffius, a farmer all his life, who owned a farm. Died, aged eighty years, and of Margaret (Piper) Graffius, a daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Piper, Porter Township, who died at the age of eighty years. Philip Graffius was formerly in the ice business for twenty years. Established a restaurant business at corner of Thirteenth and Mifflin streets, Huntingdon, in 1917; also confectionery, etc. Has been a school director of Huntingdon Borough. Both his wife and he belong to the Methodist Church. He is a Republican in politics. He has three brothers, Israel, Petersburg, Pa.; William, Petersburg, Pa.; Albert, Huntingdon, Pa. Clifford is deceased. Two sisters, Susan, of Petersburg, Pa.; Annie, Petersburg, Pa. He was married to Mary Piper, a daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Peter Piper. The following are the children to this union: John A., Wilmington! , Del. They have one son, Jack; Paul B., married to Harriet Driscoll, Pittsburgh, Pa., one son, John A.; Mary Graffius, resides at Huntingdon, Pa.; Fannie S. is a matron in Orphans' Home near Harrisburg, Pa. The Graffius' have one son and one daughter deceased, who died in infancy.

Well Judy your right about it being hard. I still have some empty spots that I just have not been able to make it out. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Banja" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 12:59 PM Subject: [PAHUNTIN] Military service and pension records > Hi Norma, > > Here's an example of a Civil War record transcription, done by my buddy J. > Goddard - > http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/blair/military/civilwar/pensions/mackeymhcw.txt > > Here's a Huntingdon county record by Sana McGhee and Allen Nickol - > http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/huntingdon/military/goodman-benjamin-f.txt > > A Mifflin example - > http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/mifflin/military/revwar/pensions/cunning-j.txt > > A Luzerne example - > http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/luzerne/military/pensions/deha0001.txt > > A Philly example - > http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/philadelphia/military/zoll-j.txt > > They're all in USGenWeb Archives by county. > > If you go here > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/pasearch.htm > and enter "civil war pension record" in quotes in the search box, you'll > find > those that have been transcribed for PA. > > I don't envy you the task of transcribing a military record. I think > they're > much more difficult to transcribe than wills or deeds. > > If you would be so kind, when you finish your transcription, you might > consider > contributing it through the form you'll find here - > http://www.genrecords.org/pafiles/ > > Judy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "norma" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 10:30 AM > Subject: Re: [PAHUNTIN] Re: Huntingdon County Wills > > > Judy some info please. > I have the civil war papers of Jeremiah York a g?grandfather (don't > remember > how many greats LOL) and am trying to do that is there a place when you > get > it done or just for each county or what.?? > > > ==== PAHUNTIN Mailing List ==== > Visit Huntingdon County PAGenWeb Archives at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/huntingdon/ - > it's our digital library. > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > >

Dear Judy and all, Thank you for explaining the reason for transcribing. Please don't take my question as a criticism concerning the availability of records online. I was not concerned with errors in typing, just that records could perhaps go online sooner if they were scanned. When I see a Will of interest listed in the Will Index, I want to see it right away! The name might have been one I looked at a couple times. If someone posted a scan of it, I could peep at it right away! I often do my research very late at night, so if I think I have found something, I would just like to satisfy my curiosity right away. I know many people are feverishly transcribing records. I just didn't understand how it worked. For all of those transcribing, thank you. Every time I go to Huntingdon to research, my family wants me to go here and there. My research hours get limited. Last summer, in desperation, I rented a room at the new hotel in Huntingdon and spent 5 glorious days at the Historical Society, the Court House, and cemetery hopping. I had 30 plus records copied from the Register's Office at the Court House. (just that trip) One thing I learned, I asked for three documents which were in Will Book 19, pages 292 and 293. I didn't realize that if the Letters of Administration, date of death and Renunciation of husband were on the same page, I didn't need to ask for all three documents. The whole page of 292 or 293 would be copied. So, I paid for copies of three documents rather than two. I spent a lot of money for copies that I didn't need. Not complaining, just found out how it works. The ladies at the Recorder's Office are very helpful and nice. When I received the documents, I cut apart the pages and copied them sideways on legal paper enlarging the microfilmed copy by 200% and adjusted the contrast so I could clearly read the copy. I have handwritten what was written above the original Recorder's Clerk's writing on my enlarged copy for my own use. Early handwriting and legal terms can be very hard to decipher. If I can send off a copy of a Will, Deed or the like to someone else researching, I scan it the original microfilm copy from the Court House. I am not the best typist in the world. Thank goodness for spell check! Transcribing will be a tedious task for me. I was just hoping for an easier way to be able to share the documents I have and get them online. (and be nosey and see what everyone else has! :>) I know there are lots of folks researching who don't have the chance to come to Huntingdon and pull the records. For me, my genealogy hobby is not only to discover my family roots, but I also want to be able to share what I have found and connect with other folks. At the beginning of the year, we did a Roll call. Since scanning is not possible, could we do a Roll Call listing documents we have to share and scan between each other? Thanks for the explanation. I will transcribe! Sincerely, Teresa Shade Meltzer

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZdB.2ACI/3567.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks, Judy I'm looking foirward to seeing what they have. Mo

Kathy, I'm not saying we shouldn't scan the wills and put the images online, TOO. Just that we need a transcription for the indexing programs. I agree wholeheartedly about misreading names. June Weston has been going through the cemetery books after we've photographed the tombstones in Blair county cemeteries, and making annotations and corrections and additions. You'd be surprised how many changes there are. And handwriting's even worse than tombstone inscriptions! Used to be we couldn't put images in the Archives. Now we can upload tombstone pix, photos of deceased people, handwritten documents, etc. BUT we have to have a transcription of everything for the search engine. Folks send me obit scans all the time, and I have to break the bad news to them that they have to type what's on the scan. :- ( Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "David & Kathy Wells" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [PAHUNTIN] Re: Huntingdon County Wills This caught my eye and I have to agree. I have had 2 experiences in my years of research that I was looking for a child, and the transcribed copy did not name the children, but the handwritten one did. Because, the transcriber wasn't familiar with the names 'Increase' and 'Jabesh', and they had transcribed the name Increase with something else completely, not even a name, and the Jabesh was transcribed Joseph. I never would have found them if I hadn't insisted on a copy of the original handwritten one. The county courthouses don't think we can read the old writing, but I do and will. I would rather see the original. I know sometimes they are faint, but I have gotten the copies to look pretty good after xeroxing them a couple of times on darker settings and maybe even enlarging a little. Just my 2 cents worth. Thanks, Kathy Wells. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 2:33 AM Subject: Re: [PAHUNTIN] Re: Huntingdon County Wills > Judy, > I have a question: > > Why do the Wills, Deeds and the like need to be transcribed? Is it > possible > to scan the originals and submit them that way? > > Thanks, > Teresa Shade Meltzer > > > ==== PAHUNTIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Huntingdon county PaGenWeb site at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pahuntin for information on county resources, > cemeteries and other research information. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > ==== PAHUNTIN Mailing List ==== Visit the Huntingdon county PaGenWeb site at http://www.rootsweb.com/~pahuntin for information on county resources, cemeteries and other research information. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Hi Norma, Here's an example of a Civil War record transcription, done by my buddy J. Goddard - http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/blair/military/civilwar/pensions/mackeymhcw.txt Here's a Huntingdon county record by Sana McGhee and Allen Nickol - http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/huntingdon/military/goodman-benjamin-f.txt A Mifflin example - http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/mifflin/military/revwar/pensions/cunning-j.txt A Luzerne example - http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/luzerne/military/pensions/deha0001.txt A Philly example - http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/philadelphia/military/zoll-j.txt They're all in USGenWeb Archives by county. If you go here http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/pasearch.htm and enter "civil war pension record" in quotes in the search box, you'll find those that have been transcribed for PA. I don't envy you the task of transcribing a military record. I think they're much more difficult to transcribe than wills or deeds. If you would be so kind, when you finish your transcription, you might consider contributing it through the form you'll find here - http://www.genrecords.org/pafiles/ Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "norma" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [PAHUNTIN] Re: Huntingdon County Wills Judy some info please. I have the civil war papers of Jeremiah York a g?grandfather (don't remember how many greats LOL) and am trying to do that is there a place when you get it done or just for each county or what.??

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZdB.2ACI/3564.2 Message Board Post: If you don't find a will for the person you are looking for in the SAMPUBCO index, send a request to the county of Huntingdon. I discovered that the Sampubco Index is not a complete list and other old wills are in the county records. Be sure to request a copy of "the will and the estate or probate papers." People don't always have a will (they died intestate), but if they owned property there will most likely be paperwork showing how the estate was handled and/or to whom it was distributed, sold, etc.

I have to add my two cents worth as well. I transcribe everything. There is no better way to really glean every piece of information than to transcribe every word. I keep the text of all documents in my database where it can be copied and pasted into email and other communications in the future. I also post my wills to the rootsweb county message boards. I think that rootsweb is a great way to share since data can be searched in many different ways. Additionally, rootsweb allows attachment of graphic files now so images of wills, obits, etc. can be added which gives us the best of both worlds. I'm also finding that findagrave.com is another valuable resource for finding ancestors. I've been posting information to that site as well and have obtained several gravestone photographs through their photo request feature. If you haven't ever posted a photo or document, I urge you to do so. Genealogists are generous people and I have found that the more information you post and share, the more you will find. Kathryn Doyle Piedmont, CA

Wow, Judy. Your info was just what I needed. And to thank you properly I'm going to post the wills I have from Huntingdon Co. cheers, Arlene On Jul 18, 2006, at 9:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: > From: [email protected] > Date: July 17, 2006 10:05:14 AM PDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Huntingdon County Wills > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Wills > Classification: Will > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZdB.2ACI/3564.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Jim, > > There's an index on the Sampubco site, here - > http://www.sampubco.com/wills/pa/pennsylvania.htm#huntingdon > > Wills can be ordered from Sampubco company or from the Huntingdon > county court house > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pahuntin/courthouse.htm > > We have a number of transcribed wills in Huntingdon Archives, and > hope that when you get a will you'll transcribe it and submit it to > the Archives, so that particular wheel doesn't have to be > reinvented ever again. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/huntingdon/wills.htm > > Judy Banja > Huntingdon Archives >

This caught my eye and I have to agree. I have had 2 experiences in my years of research that I was looking for a child, and the transcribed copy did not name the children, but the handwritten one did. Because, the transcriber wasn't familiar with the names 'Increase' and 'Jabesh', and they had transcribed the name Increase with something else completely, not even a name, and the Jabesh was transcribed Joseph. I never would have found them if I hadn't insisted on a copy of the original handwritten one. The county courthouses don't think we can read the old writing, but I do and will. I would rather see the original. I know sometimes they are faint, but I have gotten the copies to look pretty good after xeroxing them a couple of times on darker settings and maybe even enlarging a little. Just my 2 cents worth. Thanks, Kathy Wells. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 2:33 AM Subject: Re: [PAHUNTIN] Re: Huntingdon County Wills > Judy, > I have a question: > > Why do the Wills, Deeds and the like need to be transcribed? Is it > possible > to scan the originals and submit them that way? > > Thanks, > Teresa Shade Meltzer > > > ==== PAHUNTIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Huntingdon county PaGenWeb site at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pahuntin for information on county resources, > cemeteries and other research information. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Judy some info please. I have the civil war papers of Jeremiah York a g?grandfather (don't remember how many greats LOL) and am trying to do that is there a place when you get it done or just for each county or what.?? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Banja" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [PAHUNTIN] Re: Huntingdon County Wills > Hi Teresa, > > Thanks for giving me a chance to explain this. > > There isn't a search engine on the net that will index an image. Just > because > jpg image has words on it instead of a photo of Uncle Fred doesn't mean > the > search engine can read it, unfortunately. PDF file images can now be > indexed, > but there's usually an extra charge by FreeFind, PicoSearch, etc. for the > indexing. And technically, a PDF program has already OCRed (optical > character > recognition) the image of the text, and that indexing is only as good as > the > PDF's conversion program's OCR was. No OCR program will read handwriting > and > turn it into text. And if the printed image is bad - say, from microfilm, > a bad > original copy, etc. - then the OCR program is going to make lots of > errors. > > Here's an example - > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/judyproofers/denise/1919feb11-005.jpg > This > is an image Denise is typing for Blair Archives. It's a photograph I took > of > part of an article in my bound volume of 1919 Altoona Tribune newspapers. > The > newspaper is old, brittle, and darkened, and when I turn the pages, little > bits > of paper along the edges flake off all over my dining room floor. <g> > Please > click on the link and take a look at the image before you read on. > > I used OmniPage Pro 15 OCR program, which is an expensive and excellent > program, > to turn this image into text, but I didn't proofread the text. What you > see > below is straight out of the OCR process. > > Most image to PDF programs don't give you much of a chance to proofread > (or most > people who convert images to PDF don't proofread; I'm not sure which is > the > problem), so this is a pretty good likeness of what the unedited text > would look > like if you just scanned the images and saved to PDF - > > ------- > Pas.ttal, Rennet I LaushIln, Harold Ste- phens. knees Stitt. laenneth > Goodman. > Sti 7.9; Sarah Machitoatt, 56 7.9; William Whittled. Rd 7.8: Ruth \I Neal, > 7.8; > Beatrice Olsewhite, Fannie Msg., 169th- or Stauter, Ploreneo McCracken, > 31Iriam > AfoCk619.11, Helen Tam` t, SC 8.9: Beeler Stulta. 86 4.9; Loula labor, 96 > 2.9; > Porter :Prow, Theodore Shade, Bce. Dixon, > > von cub, 88 2.S; /eruyeTyn Bunt, Martha Owln, Thelma Stephonn, Edits > Smith. > Agnes Caaselberry. 96 1.9; Elisabeth Heckman, 86; Harry Denlnar, 88 6.8; > William > Axton. Prod Berkey, Ralph Boll.r. Cleo. ittenberg, Natnuel White, Pritek > Warfel. > Herman Chapman. Paul Cried, 56 5.9: Edith liargreavre. Virginia TUZZICY, > Vanoeta > Russell. 8.6 5.9: Violet Seer, 8S 19; Ruth Adel., Waiter Hite, liattnali > > Joeeph Cohen, Mildred Luse, Paul Trees, Charles Male, Paul Cehrdett Robert > Swayen, in. > ------- > > Not too good, huh? I don't waste my time trying to OCR old newspapers. > I'm not > a good typist, but I can type faster than I can fix up a mess like the > above. > > Voice recognition programs are getting better, so eventually we may be > able to > read those handwritten wills into a microphone, and a software program > like > Dragon Naturally Speaking will turn them into text, but they aren't too > good at > present, and meanwhile, we've got word processing, which is a lot better > than > manual or even electric typewriters, and once we get the typed text > online, the > search engines will have no problem finding any word in the file. > > But the real point is that here we are - lots of cousins looking up the > same > will, and keeping the photocopy in our files, or sharing it only with the > cousins we already know. It just makes more sense to transcribe the thing > once > and get it over with, and put it online, so nobody else will have to > search the > will indexes, write to the courthouse to order the will, pay the fees and > the > postage, etc. I've said it before and I'll say it again - putting > transcriptions of documents online makes excellent cousin-fishing bait, > and lets > those new cousins know that they've found a cousin who knows how to do > research > and documents the entries in his or her gedcom. > > I'll get down off my soapbox now. <grin> > > Judy > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:33 AM > Subject: Re: [PAHUNTIN] Re: Huntingdon County Wills > > > Judy, > I have a question: > > Why do the Wills, Deeds and the like need to be transcribed? Is it > possible > to scan the originals and submit them that way? > > Thanks, > Teresa Shade Meltzer > > > ==== PAHUNTIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Huntingdon county PaGenWeb site at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pahuntin for information on county resources, > cemeteries and other research information. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > ==== PAHUNTIN Mailing List ==== > Visit Huntingdon County PAGenWeb Archives at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/huntingdon/ - > it's our digital library. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > >

Hi Teresa, Thanks for giving me a chance to explain this. There isn't a search engine on the net that will index an image. Just because jpg image has words on it instead of a photo of Uncle Fred doesn't mean the search engine can read it, unfortunately. PDF file images can now be indexed, but there's usually an extra charge by FreeFind, PicoSearch, etc. for the indexing. And technically, a PDF program has already OCRed (optical character recognition) the image of the text, and that indexing is only as good as the PDF's conversion program's OCR was. No OCR program will read handwriting and turn it into text. And if the printed image is bad - say, from microfilm, a bad original copy, etc. - then the OCR program is going to make lots of errors. Here's an example - http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/judyproofers/denise/1919feb11-005.jpg This is an image Denise is typing for Blair Archives. It's a photograph I took of part of an article in my bound volume of 1919 Altoona Tribune newspapers. The newspaper is old, brittle, and darkened, and when I turn the pages, little bits of paper along the edges flake off all over my dining room floor. <g> Please click on the link and take a look at the image before you read on. I used OmniPage Pro 15 OCR program, which is an expensive and excellent program, to turn this image into text, but I didn't proofread the text. What you see below is straight out of the OCR process. Most image to PDF programs don't give you much of a chance to proofread (or most people who convert images to PDF don't proofread; I'm not sure which is the problem), so this is a pretty good likeness of what the unedited text would look like if you just scanned the images and saved to PDF - ------- Pas.ttal, Rennet I LaushIln, Harold Ste- phens. knees Stitt. laenneth Goodman. Sti 7.9; Sarah Machitoatt, 56 7.9; William Whittled. Rd 7.8: Ruth \I Neal, 7.8; Beatrice Olsewhite, Fannie Msg., 169th- or Stauter, Ploreneo McCracken, 31Iriam AfoCk619.11, Helen Tam` t, SC 8.9: Beeler Stulta. 86 4.9; Loula labor, 96 2.9; Porter :Prow, Theodore Shade, Bce. Dixon, von cub, 88 2.S; /eruyeTyn Bunt, Martha Owln, Thelma Stephonn, Edits Smith. Agnes Caaselberry. 96 1.9; Elisabeth Heckman, 86; Harry Denlnar, 88 6.8; William Axton. Prod Berkey, Ralph Boll.r. Cleo. ittenberg, Natnuel White, Pritek Warfel. Herman Chapman. Paul Cried, 56 5.9: Edith liargreavre. Virginia TUZZICY, Vanoeta Russell. 8.6 5.9: Violet Seer, 8S 19; Ruth Adel., Waiter Hite, liattnali Joeeph Cohen, Mildred Luse, Paul Trees, Charles Male, Paul Cehrdett Robert Swayen, in. ------- Not too good, huh? I don't waste my time trying to OCR old newspapers. I'm not a good typist, but I can type faster than I can fix up a mess like the above. Voice recognition programs are getting better, so eventually we may be able to read those handwritten wills into a microphone, and a software program like Dragon Naturally Speaking will turn them into text, but they aren't too good at present, and meanwhile, we've got word processing, which is a lot better than manual or even electric typewriters, and once we get the typed text online, the search engines will have no problem finding any word in the file. But the real point is that here we are - lots of cousins looking up the same will, and keeping the photocopy in our files, or sharing it only with the cousins we already know. It just makes more sense to transcribe the thing once and get it over with, and put it online, so nobody else will have to search the will indexes, write to the courthouse to order the will, pay the fees and the postage, etc. I've said it before and I'll say it again - putting transcriptions of documents online makes excellent cousin-fishing bait, and lets those new cousins know that they've found a cousin who knows how to do research and documents the entries in his or her gedcom. I'll get down off my soapbox now. <grin> Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:33 AM Subject: Re: [PAHUNTIN] Re: Huntingdon County Wills Judy, I have a question: Why do the Wills, Deeds and the like need to be transcribed? Is it possible to scan the originals and submit them that way? Thanks, Teresa Shade Meltzer ==== PAHUNTIN Mailing List ==== Visit the Huntingdon county PaGenWeb site at http://www.rootsweb.com/~pahuntin for information on county resources, cemeteries and other research information. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Huntingdon vital records Classification: Death Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZdB.2ACI/3567.1 Message Board Post: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pahuntin/courthouse.htm Mimi Reed supplied this description of the records - Prior to 1906 some vital record keeping was conducted at the county level for the periods 1852-53 and 1894-1905. The Register and Recorder has a transcription of the 1852-1853 Vital Records. It is kept in the office and is available upon request. The HCHS has a copy of this, also. The 1894-1905 birth and death records books are in the Register and Recorders Office and are open for research. Be aware that both sets of records are woefully incomplete.

Judy, I have a question: Why do the Wills, Deeds and the like need to be transcribed? Is it possible to scan the originals and submit them that way? Thanks, Teresa Shade Meltzer

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZdB.2ACI/3567 Message Board Post: Can anyone tell me how far back they go at the Huntingdon Court House to find death certificates? I'm looking for one from 1891 and another from 1899. Thanks, Mo

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZdB.2ACI/3566 Message Board Post: Someone said that they thought this person was buried in Greenlee Cemetery, but she is not on the list on the HCHS website (nor is the Stell surname listed as present in this cemetery.) Any thoughts?? Thanks, Mo

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZdB.2ACI/3565 Message Board Post: I have a Jacob & Mary Lytle Stell that had a son, Henry Stell... Their info: Jacob Stell - dates unknown Mary Leightle/Lightle/Lytle (born 1822 - died unknown) Henry Stell (1845 - ?) My grandmother descends from Mary's brother, Peter. Her husband descended from a Thomas Stell... I'm still trying to find out: Are Jacob & Mary are related to Thomas, and how? And Is this Jacob a descendant of the Jacob Stell listed in the 1790 census for Huntingdon County? The "senior" Jacob does not appear in any further census records. Thomas came to the US in 1836 - I never knew of any other Stells in the area until I went thro the census records at the HCHS. Any thoughts, anyone? Thanks, Mo