Persis, Please email me off list - I've lost your email address! (Woodard) Julia .

My g grandmother Caroline Kaltmaier supposedly was born in PA on August 17, 1868 (from her death cert.). Her parents were Johanes Jacob Kaltmaier and Katharina Pfander both born in Germany. Any info on either the Kaltmaier line or Pfander line in PA greatly appreciatred especially: Caroline's birth info Johanes & Katharina's marriage (but probably in Germany) Katharina's ?brother? Andrew Pfander - anything They all ended up in NYC. Thanks John

I'm in a real fix! I have an Ambrosius Heller and Johanna Klaus (husband/wife) who were born in PA abt. 1847-1850. I do not know what county or their parents' names. They may be in the 1850 census. Does anyone have a suggestion as to what to do next? They were also married in PA maybe abt. 1867. Also, can someone tell me what county Hellertown is in? And, any other info on Hellertown? Much appreciation. Margaret in Colorado mb329@msn.comGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Hello everyone. I just wanted to let all of you know due to a terminal family illness I won't be available for 4-5 days. Please, please pray. God Bless, Renee Louise Waring

hi all and sorry for bringing this up again I personally don't agree or disagree with someone putting a joke on once in awhile. and am not mad at anyone for this one. accidents happen, I just don't have time for them I will be leaving the list I drive for a living (which is my choice) and only get home about 4 days a month.,I have drove more than 26000 miles since Jan 1. in the past 2 1/2 weeks I have been through PA 8 times. my way to relax is family history or genealogy. about the first of the year I had a major putor crash and lost everything so now I spend my free time putting all the pieces back together again. thanks for all the help from everyone. best wishes to all and hope everyone finds at least 1 missing piece to their puzzle this year Dan dcurtiss@austin.rr.com

I am looking for the parents of Cornelius Hoffman, born 30 Jan 1837 in PA. He married Katherine Pease (2nd marriage) in Halifax, PA in 1865. I would like to know the parents names. The 1900 census has both born in PA. I don't have access to other census sheets. Am also interested as to where Cornelius (my ggrandfather) was born in PA. Appreciate any help out there.

Seeking info on my gg grandmother, MARY GIVENS. I am not sure if Mary is her 1st name or her middle name. She was born in PA about 1811. She married JOHN S. WATKINS abt 1828 - place unk. Their first 2 children were born in Muskingum Co., OH, then they moved to Vermillion Co., IN and then to (IA Polk and/or Story Co., IA). I need info on her parents and siblings.

Subj: [ENG-SHROP] Strange look up request Date: 2/8/02 2:24:38 PM !!!First Boot!!! From:    Amonetone@aol.com To:    ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com I work in a charity shop and we’ve been given a very old family bible that I’ d like to return to family members. I'm currently emailing all and sundry about it! The name inside the front cover, to whom I believe the bible belonged, is Sarah Ann HIGGS. Her address is given as 26 Richard Street, Leicester (England). It’s a handwritten notation dated 1866. In the births section, the following is also handwritten: Sarah Ann HIGGS, born June 11 1841. Margaret Ann HIGGS, Born 23 July 1846. It’s a Cassell’s Illustrated Family Bible, very big and absolutely beautiful, still in it’s original cover. There is another handwritten notation further in the book but the only words I can read are the surname HIGGS and possibly a date or price. Could somebody look these ladies or their address up on any census they might have?  It might help to track descendants down. Many thanks! Linda Derham Listowner

Here is my brick wall. Myrtle Mary Wynn married to Frank Shirk in 1901 Pa. I also saw something awhile back while browsing and now can't remember where, about Frank Shirk death in 1901. Is this my Frank or another? Is there anyone who can do an obit look-up? I do not know much about Frank. Just first and last name and that he was married to Myrtle Wynn in 1901. Anybody have any clues, other than SSDI. Thanks, Robin robindilley@prodigy.net

Is anybody else on the list doing research on Morgans ? I am looking for information on Morgans buried in Shawnee cemetery in Plymouth, Pa. My g-grandparents, William and Mary (?) Morgan, were born in Wales, they lived in or near Plymouth,Pa. The problem is there were so many William Morgans', I still don't know if I got the right grave site, I checked the cemetery records, but they are a "mess" . Nana in Vermont

PLEASE...no more comments on the Joke thingy...my delete finger's getting tired...let it be...thanks. -----Original Message----- From: F Wilson [mailto:rfwilson@oecadvantage.net] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:13 PM To: PAGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Renee's joke I didn't care for the joke so didn't read all of it. I have learned in my 64 yrs of living not to bite off my nose to spite my face. I have found the list to be helpful and will continue to seek info from it. We all make mistakes.

People DO make mistakes. That IS why erasers were put on pencils. I don't think it was something to throw hissy-fits, stamp your feet and whine "Unsubscribe me NOW" about. I thought the joke was pretty funny and passed it on.

Hello, I'm being bombarded by people on this website using it for their jokes and conversations. Each one come to me. I thought this site was strictly for genealogy!

Hi All, I'm still in, and thought the joke was funny. Renee don't be so hard on yourself, if people are offended so easily that's a shame! While I'm sending to the group, maybe someone can help me with a gen problem. I am having a real tough time on my Laird family that moved to Allegheny county around 1910 & Chevreux family 1885. I can't find any record's on them. Does anyone have access to directories or real-estate records? Any suggestions? Have a great day! Colleen /Simi Vly, CA, ctg3@prodigy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <Reneelwaring@aol.com> To: <PAGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 7:43 AM Subject: Re: I didn't mean to send the joke to this list. My appologies. > My appologies. I sent this to the wrong list. I mean't to send it to > another. > > Sincerely, > Renee Waring >

Marcia, Please take Bill's advice! Thanks, Linda

Renee, Thanks for the One-Name Study file. I found your joke very funny. Don't sweat the small stuff! Linda

I didn't care for the joke so didn't read all of it. I have learned in my 64 yrs of living not to bite off my nose to spite my face. I have found the list to be helpful and will continue to seek info from it. We all make mistakes.

Dear Renee' Isn't it incredible how much foolishness can come from one little finger spasm?? Don't let the turkeys get you down. There is no one who hasn't made a mistake at one time or another. The vast majority of your fellow listmembers were not offended and are fully supportive. Your apology was fine; I'd probably have just told the fussbudgets to smooch my rusty-dusty! 'Nuff said! Paige ----- Original Message ----- From: <Reneelwaring@aol.com> To: <PAGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 12:57 PM Subject: Regarding: Unsubscribing > Hi Marcia. > > I apologized for sending the joke to this list. It is a very good list to > learn more about genealogy and I hope you stay. > > I donate 3 hours of every day to further other's research in the field of > genealogy. My days off it is closer to 6 hours. I don't ever charge for my > time, and in fact drive 3 hours one way at least 6 times a year to do > transcribing of cemeteries for other's gain. I work 12 hours a day, 3 to 4 > days a week, and raise (alone) 3 children under the age of 8. > > Every once in a while something hits you as funny and you send it to your > friends. I have said that I did not send it to this list on purpose, and I > have apologized. I do not make a habit of sending out jokes. Please > understand and stay. > > Everyone else, lets not talk about it anymore please? At least not on the > list. > > Sincerely, > Renee Waring >

Dear Marcia, You are the best person to unsubscribe yourself. To do this, simply send an email with the word "unsubscribe" by itself to PAGENWEB-L-request@rootsweb.com Hope this helps. Bill Marcia Watkins writes: > > This is just a few of the "jokes" and other worthless trash I have received on your site. I thought this was a genealogical site - so far I have not received anything regarding genealogy! Please remove me from list - like in UNSUBSCRIBE ME NOW.

I WILL PROVE THERE IS GENEALOGY ON THIS LIST, I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR MY AUNT WHO WAS BORN IN PA HER SISTER MARY BORN IN CORNWALL ENGLAND. HOWEVER HER PARENTS RETURNED TO ENGLAND AND GAVE BIRTH TO HER BROTHER RICHARD AND RETURNED TO AMERICA TO HAVE THEIR NEXT DAUGHTER EMILY IN WI. I WOULD GIVE ANYTHING JUST TO HAVE HER LISTED SOMEWHERE ELSE THAN CENSUS TO EXPLAIN THIS BACK AND FORTH THING. A VOLUNTEER FOUND THIS OBIT FOR ME AND SENT IT TO ME TODAY. THIS IS AN AMAZING STORY! . I did find it today. It was on the front page of the paper! It reads as follows: "Mrs. Crow, wife of John Crow, died on Wednesday morning at the home of her daughter, Mrs. Ralph Gill, one mile north of Merrill, after an illness of two weeks. Mrs. Crow caught cold attending the funeral of a grandchild about two weeks ago and an attack of grip followed, supplemented by erysipelas and inflammation rheumatism which went to her heart. Mrs. Crow was sixty-two years old last November. Her death is a sad blow to her husband and children. Mr. and Mrs. Crow, who have resided on South Avenue in this city for the past three years, were making preparations to move to Merrill where they recently purchased property to make their home. They have acquired a competency by long and honorable toil and were planning to retire and enjoy a well earned rest and pass their declining days in peace and comfort when death struck down the wife and mother. Mrs. Crow was born in Pennsylvania, of English parents and when a girl crossed the ocean twice with her parents who finally returned to America to make their home. Her maiden name was Lizzie A. Faull, and she was united in marriage with John Crow at Muscalunge, Wisconsin, in 1868. Two years later Mr. Crow came to Plymouth county and homesteaded and in the following spring he and his wife took up their residence on the homestead three miles northeast of Merrill and lived there for many years. Three children, with the bereaved husband survive. They are Mrs. Marie Gill and Mrs. Shirbon of Merrill and Bernard Crow who is weighmaster at the Sioux City stock yards. The funeral was held on Thursday afternoon at the Methodist church in Merrill and the interment was made in the cemetery at Broken Kettle where lie the remains of her mother, a brother and brother-in-law." I'm not sure if that "Mrs. Shirbon" is right. That's what it looks like to me, but sometimes it's hard to tell. It never fails....whether it's my own family or someone elses, I'm always fascinated to think of the stories behind the people. Sounds like they would have had a lot of them! Sandy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Researching JEFFERS, NEWTON, BLANCHARD, RACEY, SCOTT, MANN, JEWELL, BEEMAN, FAULL, McCLOUD, CROW, HOLEMAN, TURNER, FULLER, KINNEY, LIAS, NORTON, OBERMIRE, PRITCHARD, FOWLER AND ATTEBERRY NY, IA, WI, OR, AZ, ENGLAND and IRELAND. and FERNANDEZ, SANCHEZ, LOPEZ, TRIGUERO, CASTRO From Spain>Hawaii>CA --- "Marcia Watkins" <mwatkins@mvn.net> wrote: > >This is just a few of the "jokes" and other worthless trash I have received on your site. I thought this was a genealogical site - so far I have not received anything regarding genealogy! Please remove me from list - like in UNSUBSCRIBE ME NOW. > >Marcia Watkins mwatkins@mvn.net > >************************************************************************************ > >>From: Reneelwaring@aol.com >>To: PAGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: I thought that you could use a joke. This is really funny.-Renee >>Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 10:19:28 EST >> >>A fellow was ordered by his doctor to lose 75 lbs. due to very serious >>health >>risks. As he wondered how in the heck he would ever do it, he ran across an >>ad in the newspaper for a GUARANTEED WEIGHT LOSS PROGRAM. "Guaranteed. >>Yeah >>right!" he thought to himself. But desperate, he calls them up and >>subscribes to the 3-day/10 pound weight loss program. >> >>The next day there's a knock at his door, and when he answers, there stands >>before him a voluptuous, athletic, 19 year old babe dressed in nothing but >>a >>pair of Nike running shoes and a sign round her neck. She introduces >>herself >>as a representative of the weight loss company. The sign reads, "If you can >>catch me, you can have me." >> >>Without a second thought he takes off after her. A few miles later, huffing >>and puffing, he finally catches her and has his >>way with her. After they are through and she leaves, he thinks to himself, >>"I like the way this company does business!" >> >>The same girl shows up for the next two days and the same thing happens. >>On >>the fourth day, he weighs himself and is delighted to find he has lost 10 >>lbs. as promised. He calls the company and orders their 5-day/20 pound >>program. >> >>The next day there's a knock at the door and there stands the most >>stunning, >>beautiful, sexy woman he has ever seen in his life, wearing nothing but >>Reebok running shoes and a sign around her neck that reads, "If you catch >>me, >>you can have me." >> >>He's out the door after her like a shot. This girl is in excellent shape >>and >>it takes him a while to catch her, but when he >>does, it is worth every cramp and wheeze. For the next four days, the same >>routine happens and much to his delight, on the fifth day he weighs himself >>and found he has lost another 20lbs. as promised. He decides to go for >>broke >>and calls the company to order the 7-day/50 pound program. >> >>"Are you sure?", asks the representative on the phone. "This is our most >>rigorous program." >> >>"Absolutely," he replies, "I haven't felt this good in years." >> >>The next day there's a knock at the door and when he opens it he finds >>Richard Simmons standing there wearing nothing but pink running shoes and a >>sign around his neck that reads, "If I catch you, I can have you." >> >> > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com _____________________________________________________________ Sign up for FREE email from The PI Directory at http://www.pi-directory.com