Hi all, I am so sorry. I realize that some of you may not be able click on the link to my webpage that I had put in my email to the lists. The actual URL for my webpage is... http://hometown.aol.com/ella12866/index.html Surnames: COLEMAN, HARLING, EAVES, KIRCHER, WEIKEL, BAIRD, RITTER/RUTTER, JORDAN and CHRISTALDI. Any variations? That's ok. I've seen a few. Other names in my family are... CRUMLEY/CROMLEY, HARVEY, MARKER, STEIN, STOLLIE/STOLLEY, TITTERMARY and still growing. I piece together the past so my children won't be as confused as I am.

Are there any birth record indexes for PA posted on the web? I have a couple of ancestors born in Pa but don't know where. Thanks John Albertini PS the last names are not very commom: Hammele & Kaltmaier

If your family is from Wolverhampton England, you might like this site: http://www.wolverhamptonarchives.dial.pipex.com/churchrecords.htm Renee

Olive Tree Genealogy Ships Lists (http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/ ) has just added the following passenger lists to New York These add to my existing passenger lists and links online (1,341ships - is your ancestor in one of them?) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/active1803.shtml Active for Philadelphia, sworn at Newry, Ireland 18th. May, 1803. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/neptune1803.shtml Neptune sailed for Newcastle Delaware and Philadelphia Pennsylvania from Warren Point, Newry, Ireland 29 March 1803. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/pa_sheaffe1836.shtml Sarah Sheaffe Belfast Ireland to New York & Philadelphia Pennsylvania 1836 Good luck, hope you find an ancestor or two! Lorine McGinnis Schulze The Olive Tree Genealogy http://OliveTreeGenealogy.com/ Past Voices:Letters Home http://pastvoices.com/ My Family Branches http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~myfamilybranches/ otg@csolve.net olivetreegen@netscape.net

Hello Listers and Bill: Bill, thanks for posting the PA links they are very helpful. Cheerful Regards, Cheryl

cribbswh writes: > Hi all, > Just an update to my New York pages: Of course you know I meant "Pennsylvania" and not "New York". Sorry! Bill

Hi all, Just an update to my New York pages: Pennsylvania Obituary Links http://obit.obitlinkspage.com/pa.htm Pennsylvania Obituary Search Engines http://www.obitcentral.com/obitsearch/p-t.htm Pennsylvania CemSEARCH http://www.obitcentral.com/cemsearch/pa-cem.htm Pennsylvania Historical & Genealogical Societies http://hs.obitlinkspage.com/pa.htm Pennsylvania GenTalk http://www.geocities.com/gentalk777/pa.htm WebWide Surname Locator http://surnames.obitlinkspage.com Hope these help someone's research, Sincerely, Bill Cribbs Obituary Central http://www.obitcentral.com Obituary Links Page http://www.obitlinkspage.com GenDirectory.com http://www.gendirectory.com WebWide Surname Locator http://www.obitlinkspage.com/surnames/

Dear Pennsylvania Genealogy Listers, dear Lancaster County genealogists and dear Washington County listers, I am hot on the trail of my great-great-grandfather, whose name was Abram (sometimes Abraham) ZIEGLER (sometimes Zeigler, but we all are familiar with the problem of German -ie- becoming English -ei- ). He was born in 1821, in Pennsylvania, but I don't know where, and he married one Elizabeth Ross, also born in 1821. Their first child, Jane Brown ZIEGLER was born in 1845 in Lancaster Co. Their second child, Thomas Jefferson ZIEGLER, my great-grandfather whom I'll call TJZ, was born in Carlisle, Cumberland Co., as was his sister Mary C. ZIEGLER (married name Benton) in 1847. Then the family moved west, settling in East Finley, Washington Co., Pennsylvania. I have found them in the 1860 and 1880 Federal censuses for Pennsylvania. The very kind (and very, very learned) folks at the Cumberland Co. Historical Society cannot connect my Abram Ziegler to the other Zieglers living in Cumberland Co. at the time. The Ziegler mailing list has been understanding, but also unable to help. I do not know if there is a possible Adams Co. connection as well, since after TJZ got a medical discharge from his unit in the Civil War (most of his right elbow got blown away during the Battle of the Wilderness), he first went to stay with Joseph and David ZEIGLER (sic) in Adams Co., before returning to his parents' home, which now was in Claysville, Washington Co. He married in 1866 and moved to Ohio in 1878, and died in Savannah, Ohio in 1903. His wife was named Nancy Garrett Gibson, born in 1842, in Washington Co., and Nancy's father was named Samuel A. Gibson, born in 1819 in Pennsylvania, and her mother was named Margaret Thompson (who was born in northern Ireland and came to the States as a child). I would be grateful for any help in my search: here are the three areas I need help in: 1. Precise birth dates and places for Abram Ziegler and Elizabeth Ross, and their parents' names... 2. The death and burial data for the two of these as well. 3. Any information about Gibsons in Washington Co. I'd be happy to help anyone with research in Germany, since I live and work here now. I'm a professor at the University of Wuppertal (not far from Duesseldorf) and I live with my wife and family in Muenster. Thanks. Jeff Richards Muenster, Germany

I am seeking information regarding any McPhersons living in PA....my great grandparents were Walter Kellar McPherson and Susan L. Carroll....and his father was possibly Edward McPherson....but was wondering if there were any relatives that had moved from Washington County, MD or the surrounding areas in the late 1800's to early to mid late 1900's....I am now living in PA...so was wondering... Stephanie Grohol

I am seeking information on Edith Alsip...from what I have she was born in 1900....lived in MD until she married and moved to PA....If anyone has any information on this woman...please email me....her parents were Franklin Alsip and Anna Robinson. She married a Shaffer(Shafer) not sure of the spelling...and they moved to Lancaster, PA.....it could be county or the town....I am now living in PA...and would like to know if there are any relatives associated with her or not. Thanks... Stephanie Grohol

Anthony Peeler landed on the Robert and Alice 09/11/1738 I am trying to find out where he came from Jeannie

New on Past Voices: Letters Home Collection of letters written by John W. Keller of Kentucky, Sgt.16th Infantry U.S.A., who fought in the .U.S. Mexican War 1847-1848. These letters are written to John's family in Pennyslvania, and provide a fascinating glimpse into the war. John also mentions many other men (soldiers) in the war at his side, so if you have ancestors who fought in this war, be sure to have a look at http://pastvoices.com/usa/keller_mexicanwar1.shtml Lorine Lorine McGinnis Schulze The Olive Tree Genealogy http://OliveTreeGenealogy.com/ Past Voices:Letters Home http://pastvoices.com/ My Family Branches http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~myfamilybranches/ otg@csolve.net olivetreegen@netscape.net

Hello, I am looking for some information on Henry Elsworth and his family they lived in Rush Township in Susquehanna County PA in the early 1800's. He died in 1815 and is buried in the Middletown cemetery. I am looking for information on his family. Also, does anyone have any suggestions on where to locate a will/probate record or obituary that might contain the names of his children? Thanks Wendy Smith Smithwk@mail.burgoyne.com

Hi. I just wanted to let you know that I have set up a new board room for the Waring family researchers.  The Waring families have always claimed to be connected, lets share our information and find out how. We are concentrating on trying to get into touch with others that are researching the same lines, and breaking down the walls that we have run across.  Would you like to join us?  You don't have to sign in, and the messages are kept for 60 days so check back frequently. http://pluto.beseen.com/boardroom/t/57567/ Sincerely, Renee Waring

I am looking for information on an Edith Alsip....this is what I have of her: Edith Alsip was born May 1900, and married a Shafer and moved to Lancaster, Pennsylvania; her parents were: Frank P. Alsip and Anna I. Robinson Alsip.....They were the parents also of Edwin Alsip...who was my great grandfather. These are the children of Frank and Anna: George E, b. Apr 1882, Dorothy? b. June 1883, she married a Brockman, Harry P. b. July 1886, Nina E. born: Mar 1889, she married a Ray Trovinger, John R, b 25 march 1896, and died March 21, 1924, Edith, Charles M, the oldest who married a Sadie. So if anyone has any information on this woman and her descendants,.....please contact me. Stephanie Grohol

Surnames: Grohol, Breznicky, Smith, Simon, Wantuch, Reese I am looking for any information on the following families : Grohols, Breznicky, Smith, Simon, Wantuch, Reese (Reece).... Grohols: Andrew Grohol and Mary Wantuch settled in Hazelton, PA in the late 1890's to early 1900's, they had 5 children, Michael Grohol is my grandfather, who is desceased, his siblings are: John, Mary, Anna, Andrew, Jr. any information in this regard would be greatly appreciated...I can trace them back to Andrew but that is where i am stuck at the moment.....would like any information about them and their children. Breznicky: Andrew and Julia Breznicky had 9 children....Mary Breznicky was my grandmother who married my grandfather, Michael Grohol on November 16, 1935, Andrew Breznicky married Julia Demshock (Breznicky) and the following children were born....John, Anna, Andy (who was 3 yrs old when he died), Mary (which is my grandmother), Joseph and Andrew, Jr, Helen, Michael, Margie....would like any information regarding Andrew and Julia and their children. Most of the Breznicky's lived in the Hazelton Area. Smith: Joseph H. Smith (b. Abt 1879 and d. Abt 1924) and Mary Druch, they had 12 children together, The children that I have gotten from my mother's cousin are as follows: Warren, Florence, Preston J., Ralph, Viola, Edward Peter, Walter John*, Dorothy, Anna, Charles, Verna, Catherine**. Most of the Smith's lived in the Bethlehem Area. * Walter John Smith married a Dorothy Simon (Abt 1930) and had 8 children...my mother Dawn is 6th Child. ** Catherine Smith was given up for adoption shortly after Joseph's death in 1924. Simon: Reed Simons married a woman by the name of Cora Reese (Reece), they had 8 children together, they are: Mary, Kathryn, Evelyn, Dorothy*, Archabald, Jacob, Gilbert, John A., I know that most of their lives have been spent in the Bethlehem or surrounding communites (Allentown, Easton). * Dorothy Simons married a Walter John Smith (ABT 1930), Dorothy is my grandmother. If anyone has any information on the families that I am researching please email me at joeandsteph@cyber-quest.com and put the in the Subject line the family name that you are emailing me about. Thank you and have a good day.

Update of Ships Passenger Lists **after 1820** to USA on Olive Tree Genealogy pages at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/ Following is a list of ships passenger lists on The Olive Tree Genealogy pages. These lists cover the period 1820 and later. Olive Tree has hundreds of lists for pre-1820 and to other countries. Future updates will include details on other lists hosted on Olive Tree. The Marmion Liverpool to Philadelphia April 24, 1826 http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/paship01.shtml Asia from Londonderry, N. Ireland to Philadelphia 1832 http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/ireship13.shtml The History and Passenger List of the Ship Bowditch, Liverpool to NY, May 27, 1839 http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/ireship14.shtml Baltimore 1868 Bremen to Baltimore http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/mdship01.shtml Tarifa Glasgow to Boston 1869 (606 names!) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tarifa1869.shtml Abyssinia 1872 Liverpool Ireland to NY http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/nyship06.shtml Gessner 1872 Bremen to NY http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/nyship05.shtml Vandalia 1881 Hamburg and Havre to NY http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/nyship07.shtml Salier 1882 Bremen to NY http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/nyship04.shtml Circassia 1883 Scotland to New York (many passengers going on to Canada) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/circassia.shtml Maas 1883 Rotterdam to New York (352 passengers) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/ny_maas1883.shtml Gottardo Naples Italy to New York 1884 http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/gottardo1884.shtml Abyssinia 1885 Liverpool and Queenstown Ireland to NY http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/nyship01.shtml New York 1914 England to New York http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/nyship03.shtml Sonoma 1924 Sydney Australia to San Francisco http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/ca_sonoma.shtml Sonoma 1924 Sydney Australia to San Francisco (second voyage) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/ca_sonoma2.shtml The Olive Tree Genealogy also has 330 links to off-site passenger lists of ships arriving in the USA **after 1820**. Have fun and I hope you find an ancestor or two! Lorine Lorine McGinnis Schulze For research tips, notices of new database and more, join my Olive Tree Genealogy Newsletter at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OliveTreeGenealogy/join The Olive Tree Genealogy http://OliveTreeGenealogy.com/ My Family Branches http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~myfamilybranches/ otg@csolve.net olivetreegen@netscape.net

Surnames: Grohol, Breznicky, Smith, Simon, Wantuch, Reese I am looking for any information on the following families : Grohols, Breznicky, Smith, Simon, Wantuch, Reese (Reece).... Grohols: Andrew Grohol and Mary Wantuch settled in Hazelton, PA in the late 1890's to early 1900's, they had 5 children, Michael Grohol is my grandfather, who is desceased, his siblings are: John, Mary, Anna, Andrew, Jr. any information in this regard would be greatly appreciated...I can trace them back to Andrew but that is where i am stuck at the moment.....would like any information about them and their children. Breznicky: Andrew and Julia Breznicky had 9 children....Mary Breznicky was my grandmother who married my grandfather, Michael Grohol on November 16, 1935, Andrew Breznicky married Julia Demshock (Breznicky) and the following children were born....John, Anna, Andy (who was 3 yrs old when he died), Mary (which is my grandmother), Joseph and Andrew, Jr, Helen, Michael, Margie....would like any information regarding Andrew and Julia and their children. Most of the Breznicky's lived in the Hazelton Area. Smith: Joseph H. Smith (b. Abt 1879 and d. Abt 1924) and Mary Druch, they had 12 children together, The children that I have gotten from my mother's cousin are as follows: Warren, Florence, Preston J., Ralph, Viola, Edward Peter, Walter John*, Dorothy, Anna, Charles, Verna, Catherine**. Most of the Smith's lived in the Bethlehem Area. * Walter John Smith married a Dorothy Simon (Abt 1930) and had 8 children...my mother Dawn is 6th Child. ** Catherine Smith was given up for adoption shortly after Joseph's death in 1924. Simon: Reed Simons married a woman by the name of Cora Reese (Reece), they had 8 children together, they are: Mary, Kathryn, Evelyn, Dorothy*, Archabald, Jacob, Gilbert, John A., I know that most of their lives have been spent in the Bethlehem or surrounding communites (Allentown, Easton). * Dorothy Simons married a Walter John Smith (ABT 1930), Dorothy is my grandmother. If anyone has any information on the families that I am researching please email me at joeandsteph@cyber-quest.com and put the in the Subject line the family name that you are emailing me about. Thank you and have a good day.

We would like to invite you to re-visit our website, The POORHOUSE STORY (a clearinghouse for information about 19th century American poorhouses) at http://www.poorhousestory.com We just posted a portion of a 1904 federal government report which summarizes the poor laws in every state. On the PENNSYLVANIA page we have copied the excerpt for just your state. It is interesting to see how the laws varied from state to state. And understanding which state or county agency had administrative responsiblity over poorhouses may help you locate local poorhouse records more easily. DIRECTIONS: At the homepage (link above) click on POORHOUSES BY STATE, then on PENNSYLVANIA on the table of states. If you have been to the website recently you may have to click REFRESH or RELOAD on the browser to see the new information. You will find the link to this excerpt near the top of the page in a section titled HISTORY and marked with a big yellow NEW arrow. There are other pages on the site which may give you some interesting perspective on poorhouses. They are off the homepage and include: the HISTORY page and the LETTER TO GENEALOGISTS as well as FEATURED ARTICLES. There are great tips for researching poorhouse records for yourself on the RECORDS page; and you might want to subscribe to our (almost) monthly newletter (which you can do in the lower right corner of the homepage). The information on our site will only grow through the submissions of generous readers. If you would like to e-mail me ... please do so off-list because I cannot maintain subscriptions to as many lists as we post messages on. (You can use an e-mail link off one of our web pages.) We hope you enjoy the site! Thanks, Linda Crannell (aka=The Poorhouse Lady)

There is a mailing list that deals with medical genealogy. You might want to voice your opinion there. MEDICAL-GENEALOGY-L@rootsweb.com and MEDICAL-PEDIGREE-L@rootsweb.com ----- Original Message ----- Wrom: LEJGDGVCJVTLBXFGGMEP Sent: Saturday, 06 April, 2002 05:06 To: PAGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Off topic subject. Hi everyone. This is really off topic, but you are all my friends so I thought I would let you know about this as it is becoming a common problem. If I get into trouble for this, please understand my concern. I have twins that are both allergic to peanuts. Leah is the worst. She swells up in the head very fast. Shock is the next phase, and I am trying to avoid that as most don't survive the shock. The problem that we are having is the cross contamination that is going on in the US. If you think about it I know you will see the problem. When you produce a good product, and produce a peanut product in the same plant, you take the chance of cross contamination and someone somewhere will react. If you look at the M&M candies you will see that they have put on the package "produced in a facility that also produces a peanut product" or some such warning. What this has done for us is taken M&M's off of our diets. The warning is nice, but doesn't help since the school is still feeding them M&M's and I can't get them to stop. Nestle has just gone through the same thing and have changed their mind and are not producing a peanut product (we put enough pressure on them). The point of this is Nabisco has just announced that in the US they will be producing a peanut butter Oreo cookie. What this does is take the Oreo cookie out of my cabinets and gives me another battle with the school system. Please, I know this is really off topic, but I have an address for Nabisco that you can send them your comments. Could you please do so and let them know your thought's? The more of us that comment the better. Nabisco in Canada has agreed to not produce a peanut product, perhaps we can get the US to do the same. Here is the address: http://www.kraftapps.com/contact_us/next.asp Please, help make a difference with this problem. Peanut allergy is something that is become very prevalent and is one of the worst allergies to have. As an example, in Canada a senior in high school ate a regular sandwich that was wrapped in plastic but in a bag with peanut butter sandwiches that were also wrapped in plastic. They were on a field trip, and the girl died in her mothers arms. There is nothing funny about this allergy. Sincerely, Renee Waring