Your theory may be correct, however .... The ship arrival data in the 17 and 18th century available to is sparse and NOT complete by ant means. Arrivals in the Virginia Colonies were fairly good IF your ancestor was being transported to serve on a plantation, but not otherwise. This is because they weren't "Immigrants" as they were just moving from England to a plantation belonging to England or to an Englishman. There was an Oath of Supremacy that they had to sign before departing England at such places as Gravesend at the mouth of the Thaves Estuary. Furthermore we know that he had a brother, and may have been born in Virginia! We do not know his parent's name or his actual date, or year, of birth. There have been at least two books about him and his descendants, and some theorize that his name was Axell Heath Page GWP At 11:02 PM 12/13/2008, Carla Page wrote: >we know that exolheath aka axelheath was not his real name,because >i,ve researched ship lists going back to the very early 1700,s on >immigrant ships and i cannot find him coming to america with his >parents with the name of exolheath or axelheath page.i believe he >was given that as a nickname,or given that name as the name of a >place,probably in england.there is an exolheath road that runs >infront of windsor castle,or near it. >http://maps.google.com/

Died18 Dec 1676 English OriginDedham, Essex Came to New England1630 Withthe Winthrop fleet Resided inWatertown Freeman of MBCMay 1631 Occupationfarmer First SpousePhebe PAINE (1594 - 1677) ChildrenPhebe, John, Daniel, Samuel http://www.winthropsociety.com/settlers.php http://www.winthropsociety.com/links.php Index of Passengers, P through S PRENAME SURNAME AGE PASSAGE ROLL # William Paddey . James, 1635 (1st) 20 Elizabeth Page 28 Increase, 1635 20 Katherine Page 1 Increase, 1635 22 Thomas Page 2 Increase, 1635 21 Thomas Page 29 Increase, 1635 19     ________________________________ From: George W. Page <gwpage@erols.com> To: page@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 6:41:08 AM Subject: Re: [PAGE] English Origins Of Axel Heath Page and Relationship toNathaniel P... Your theory may be correct, however .... The ship arrival data in the 17 and 18th century available to is sparse and NOT complete by ant means. Arrivals in the Virginia Colonies were fairly good IF your ancestor was being transported to serve on a plantation, but not otherwise. This is because they weren't "Immigrants" as they were just moving from England to a plantation belonging to England or to an Englishman. There was an Oath of Supremacy that they had to sign before departing England at such places as Gravesend at the mouth of the Thaves Estuary. Furthermore we know that he had a brother, and may have been born in Virginia! We do not know his parent's name or his actual date, or year, of birth. There have been at least two books about him and his descendants, and some theorize that his name was Axell Heath Page GWP At 11:02 PM 12/13/2008, Carla Page wrote: >we know that exolheath aka axelheath was not his real name,because >i,ve researched ship lists going back to the very early 1700,s on >immigrant ships and i cannot find him coming to america with his >parents with the name of exolheath or axelheath page.i believe he >was given that as a nickname,or given that name as the name of a >place,probably in england.there is an exolheath road that runs >infront of windsor castle,or near it. >http://maps.google.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 03:52 PM 12/14/2008, you wrote: >Died18 Dec 1676 >English OriginDedham, Essex >Came to New England1630 >Withthe Winthrop fleet >Resided inWatertown >Freeman of MBCMay 1631 >Occupationfarmer >First SpousePhebe PAINE (1594 - 1677) >ChildrenPhebe, John, Daniel, >Samuel http://www.winthropsociety.com/settlers.php Yes this is the John Page who m. Phoebe Payne who came with the Winthrop Fleet. He is the first Page tro have come to New England, but not the first Page to the colonies. His Family Line is Y-DNA Finger Printed as Page Family Line E; but not all of the members (cousins) shown in that Family Line are descended from him! >http://www.winthropsociety.com/links.php >Index of Passengers, P through S >PRENAME >SURNAME >AGE >PASSAGE >ROLL # >William >Paddey . James, 1635 (1st) 20 >Elizabeth >Page 28 Increase, 1635 20 >Katherine >Page 1 Increase, 1635 22 >Thomas >Page 2 Increase, 1635 21 >Thomas >Page 29 Increase, 1635 19 Yes, this is Thomas Page and his family who came from London and relocated to the province of Maine where they lived in Saco until both he and his wife died on the same day in October 1645. He is a cousin of mine in Family Line E, and his origins are in Shipborne, co. Kent, Eng. My research shows that his line daughter-out. Here are my notes about him: There is a record of Thomas Page being "born c. 1606 at All Saints Stayning, Marklane, London" recorded in the IGI (Film # 1396413, item 86). There is a parish record of the m. of Thomas Page to Elizabeth Ellis on 6 May 1624 at St. Gregory By St. Pauls, London, England. (Could this Ellis girl have been related to Thomas Ellys, the first vicar of Shorne Church who d. in 1529 and whose brass memorial is next to George Page who d. in 1639 ?). Staining is adjacent to Fenchurch. Records from a parish there (All Hallows) start in 1642. The parish and records of "All Saints" were probably destroyed. The reference to All Saints Stayning is probably the parish where Thomas took the oath of fidelity to England and the Church Of England before he and his family were allowed to depart England for America. Mark Lane is the street off of Fenchurch Street which passes the Clothworker's Hall (in the garment district) near the Tower of London. Thomas Page citizen and draper, tailor of Fenchurch St., London is recorded in the "Citizens of London" rolls #22247. It states he m. on 20 August 1628 at St. Martin Ludgate Elizabeth the daughter of Christopher Felkin and his wife Frances Lidley (22246). Her father's name, which is the same as their second child, and the Fenchurch location are the clews to this marriage. It states Thomas Page was a citizen & draper free on 3 Sept. 1628 by Christopher Felkin tailor of Fenchurch Street, London. Thomas Page and his wife Elizabeth Felkin had two children whose baptisms are recorded in the parish church of St. Gabriel, Fenchurch, London, which is also located near the Clothworker's Hall and Custom House near the Tower of London: Katherine c. 13 February 1628, and Thomas c. 1 August 1631. (I.G.I. from film 394830 printout 0820593). Thomas Page, Gent., tailor from All Saints Stayning, London, together with many other passengers, embarked in London on 13-18 April 1635 in the "Increase" of London, Robert Lea, master, bound from London to New England. The ages given were Thomas, 29; Elizabeth his wife, 28; Thomas, 2; and Katherin, 1 [p. 136, "The Complete Book of Emigrants 1606-1660" by Peter Wilson Coldham-1987] Note: The ages given were when application was made to leave, not necessarily when the ship sailed or arrived in New England. Thomas Page, Gent., tailor from All Saints Stayning, London arrived at Boston in the "Increase" the last of July, 1635. He was age 29 and his wife Elizabeth was aged 28. Two children and servants Edward Sparkes, 22, and Katherine Taylor, 24, accompanied him. The children were listed as Thomas, 2, and Katherine, 1 when they applied. They moved to Saco Maine where he was taxed in Sept. 1636; and, sued John Richmond in 1637. In March 1640/1 he drew a bill of exchange for 40 pounds on Christopher Phillin (sic Felkin, Citizens of London #1589, his father-in-law!) of Fenchurch St. London, payable to Mr. John Huxton of Wapping. He and his wife died suddenly on October 21, 1645. Only minor children were left. ["Genealogical Dictionary of Maine & New Hampshire" (F18.N68-1972)]. In 1640 "Thomas Page, Gent." was a member of the Grand Jury swore in to enquire for our Soveraigne Lord the King, and said Lord of this Province (Maine which was part of the Mass. Bay Colony circa 1640). [p. 234/5, Vol. IX of "Maine Historical and Genealogical Recorder"-1898]. !The fact that Thomas Page of Saco was from the same Fenchurch area of London, and was of the same Gentry class, and in the same type of business (clothing, tailoring) as was Edmund Page, Gent. of London is very good evidence that they are father and son. If so, he would be the first of a line of Pages descended from Robart Page of the King's House circa 1400 who emigrated to America! This line was NOT descended from Nicholas Page (circa 1480 in Essex, England) from whom the John Pages of Hingham and Haverhill, Mass.; the Robert Pages of Hampton, New Hampshire; and, the John Pages of Virginia are descended. The ancestral connection of Robart and Nicholas Page has yet to be proven. If so, Thomas would be the first cousin of George Page, Gent. of Shore, Kent, who died in 1639 leaving an orphan son George Page who probably emigrated to Branford, Conn. circa 1660. George of Branford is the progenitor of a long line of Pages from Conn., New York, and the Midwest. [See "George Page of Branford, Connecticut and Some of His Descendants with Allied Lines" by Edith (Moyer) Page-1977 and "Robart Page of the King's House..." by Col. George W., Page-1992]. The plantation of about 50 acres assigned to Thomas Page was about four miles from the mouth of the Saco River. It was opposite Church Point and was bound by two creeks, the southerly being known as "Nichols Brook." His descendants disposed of their interests in the original tract nearly one hundred years later [York Deeds, 3-42; 12-69]. It appears the planters of Saco expected their principal revenue would come from lumber, agriculture, and the Indian trade, rather than from deep-sea fishing on the coast. ["Pioneers of Maine Rivers with lists to 1661" by Wilbur D. Spencer (F23.S74-1930)]. Those minors living with Thomas and Elizabeth at the time of their deaths in 1645 were: Thomas and Katherine; Mary bound to John Smith for five years who m. Anthony Littlefield; Christopher, bound to Henry Waddock for ten years. His estate on Stratton Island appraised on 27 June 1667 included a boat and clothing. Sylvester, bound to Thomas Williams for 13 years and with him in 1654 and living in August 1655. George Page, b. about 1641/2! [p. 523, F18.N68-1972]. The only reference to Sylvester Page is the family line of several generations of father-son combinations who lived in Shipbourne, Kent (about 15 miles to the sw of Shorne) between 1560 and 1590. The first one recorded in a parish record listed in the I.G.I. was the son of a Richard Page. A Thomas Page the son of Sylvester Page was baptized in Shipbourne on July 23, 1598. Another Thomas Page, the eldest son of Robert Page was baptized at Shipbourne on Jan. 20, 1608. No Thomas Page appears as the father of any child baptized at Shipbourne in later years. The cousins of John Page of Haverhill (arrived in Mass. in 1635) and Robert Page of NH are shown in Family Lines D and Family Line L. GWP _________ >_______________________________ >From: George W. Page <gwpage@erols.com> >To: page@rootsweb.com >Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 6:41:08 AM >Subject: Re: [PAGE] English Origins Of Axel Heath Page and >Relationship toNathaniel P... > >Your theory may be correct, however .... >The ship arrival data in the 17 and 18th century available to is >sparse and NOT complete by ant means. >Arrivals in the Virginia Colonies were fairly good IF your ancestor >was being transported to serve on a plantation, but not otherwise. >This is because they weren't "Immigrants" as they were just moving >from England to a plantation belonging to England or to an Englishman. >There was an Oath of Supremacy that they had to sign before departing >England at such places as Gravesend at the mouth of the Thaves Estuary. > >Furthermore we know that he had a brother, and may have been born in Virginia! >We do not know his parent's name or his actual date, or year, of birth. > >There have been at least two books about him and his descendants, and >some theorize that his name was Axell Heath Page > >GWP > >At 11:02 PM 12/13/2008, Carla Page wrote: > >we know that exolheath aka axelheath was not his real name,because > >i,ve researched ship lists going back to the very early 1700,s on > >immigrant ships and i cannot find him coming to america with his > >parents with the name of exolheath or axelheath page.i believe he > >was given that as a nickname,or given that name as the name of a > >place,probably in england.there is an exolheath road that runs > >infront of windsor castle,or near it. > >http://maps.google.com/ > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PAGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PAGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message