Ruthanne, Hooray for you! We didn't live in that time (Revolutionary, Civil War, etc.) and shouldn't have the audacity to judge those who did! Most people, patriotic or not, try to do what is right for their family by obeying their beliefs and hoping that whatever government they are under will do the right thing. LaFon Stone Commander (Grandma was a Page) ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Ruthanne, I see your reference to Jeremiah Page in Canada do you have any information on him, year of birth, married, children, where he lived and death? My DNA group is A and we never found for sure where our Jeremiah came from, we think England about 1750, but have no proof. Any information would be helpful. Fred Ruthanne Page wrote: > Dear Eileen Page Coyle: > Any time I see Pages from NH I start looking in the early Canadian > Records and the records of VT. So many of them moved around in that > area greatly right around the time of the Revolution. > > There is a Benjamin Page who applied for land as an 'Associate' of > Nicholas Austin 'of New Hampshire' in 1795. I was looking on the NH map > and Londonderry seems pretty far south in NH but there was a huge > transience among the settlers of that whole area in the Revolutionary > times. On the same application for new land in Canada were Jeremiah > Page Sr. Jeremiah Page Jr. Samuel Page and Wilder Page. Do these names > ring any bells for you? I do not know if they were related at all but > they certainly COULD be. They all got land assigned in Bolton Twp. in > Lower Canada. It also went under a few other names that applied to both > sides of the border like Missisquoi Bay or Calwells Manor too. I can > send the land applications and more info. as well as other names on the > applications - many from NH. > > Would you please contact me off-list with more of your family members? > Do you know which DNA family group you are in? I am trying NOT to do > them all - but there are so many in my own line which is the Group E > Descendants of John Page and Phebe Paine (sometimes written Payne). > They all came from VT, NH and Mass in the first few generations. > Then they all quit talking to their relatives when some of them went to > Canada for a million different reasons. We have to step back to the > time when America was ALL British to figure it out. Then we have to > forgive the ditzo historians who decided that someone in their family > was not patriotic to which ever side they seemed to be on at the time of > the Revolution - because they didn't know the whole story and forgot > about the details in the next few generations as well. Meanwhile they > were still blaming someone for something they did or didn't do or didn't > report very well because they didn't know 'the rest of the story'. Just > because they wound up on the other side or started on the other side for > reasons we don't understand doesn't make them the bad guys! There are a > hundred reasons why your New England Pages might have appeared to > -change sides, -change religions, -change locations, that most people > don't know about. > > I think it is wonderful that the scientific DNA proves that so many of > these lines ARE related. It is forcing us to look back and re-learn the > history our ancestors forgot about in their blindness to join up with > the idea that their ancestors did something great once. If the DAR or > the UEL Association has prompted you to start researching your > genealogy, they forgot to tell you the rest of the story -which you can > also be proud of! You can't take responsibility for all the mistakes > and errors of your ancestors either. I am saying that there is so much > that has been hidden in the effort to promote patriotism - from one side > or the other. So many PAGE lines were simply going where the new land > was and doing the best they could under horrific conditions. Most were > taking the best options they could through all the politics of wars and > famines and religious or political hatreds to complicate matters. > Even the crooks and robbers in our past are exceptional just for the > fact that they survived. > Oops, I got pretty far on that old soapbox didn't I? > Love to all my 'cousins' (proven or not), Ruthanne Page > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > Eileen Page Coyle wrote: > > >> ...still searching for Benjamin Page who married Abigail Griffin. >> they were living in Londonderry, NH between 1809 and at least 1819. >> Some of the children are: >> >> Orlando b. 1 Oct 1816 >> Franklin b. abt 1815 >> Leonard b. 6 Mar 1819 >> >> Joel b. 23 Oct 1809 may be another son. >> Thanks, Eileen Page Coyle >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Good morning all. I have been looking (as well as a generation before me) for more information on Gabriel (Jephid is also in my notes from my uncle who is now deceased and searched for more info on these 2 for years, I am thinking that might be his middle name that he went by sometimes?) and Mary Page. They had several children including my Great grandmother, Matilda Page Fountain, Julia Page Matthews, Betsey Page, and I believe Mary Page, William Page & Emily Page were also their younger children. Gabriel was born approximately 1802 somewhere in Canada, died 1861 in NY? Or Canada? On the 1860 census, they lived in Westport, Essex county, NY. Mary was born somewhere in Canada, I don't know her maiden name. She was rumored to be part or full native American, her mother (I have no name) is said to have lived to be 99 years old. Her birth year is sketchy. I have it off her tombstone as May 10, 1808, but I also have seen 1813 and 1814. She died in my home town here in Kansas October 31, 1898. She traveled with my great grand parents, her daughter Matilda and her husband Cyrille Fountain to the great frontier of Kansas in 1880 (he went 2 years earlier to set up). I also believe that their name was spelled Paige at one time, but the "I" was dropped at some point. I would love to know where they came from in Canada, where he is buried and more about her native American heritage. I have found a descendent of Julia Page, but they possess less information on them than I do because they are another generation down from Gabriel and Mary. There is a line of Page's with many members being named Gabriel but I am yet to find a link between my Gabriel and the others. Thanks! Colleen Fountain Couey

Dear Eileen Page Coyle: Any time I see Pages from NH I start looking in the early Canadian Records and the records of VT. So many of them moved around in that area greatly right around the time of the Revolution. There is a Benjamin Page who applied for land as an 'Associate' of Nicholas Austin 'of New Hampshire' in 1795. I was looking on the NH map and Londonderry seems pretty far south in NH but there was a huge transience among the settlers of that whole area in the Revolutionary times. On the same application for new land in Canada were Jeremiah Page Sr. Jeremiah Page Jr. Samuel Page and Wilder Page. Do these names ring any bells for you? I do not know if they were related at all but they certainly COULD be. They all got land assigned in Bolton Twp. in Lower Canada. It also went under a few other names that applied to both sides of the border like Missisquoi Bay or Calwells Manor too. I can send the land applications and more info. as well as other names on the applications - many from NH. Would you please contact me off-list with more of your family members? Do you know which DNA family group you are in? I am trying NOT to do them all - but there are so many in my own line which is the Group E Descendants of John Page and Phebe Paine (sometimes written Payne). They all came from VT, NH and Mass in the first few generations. Then they all quit talking to their relatives when some of them went to Canada for a million different reasons. We have to step back to the time when America was ALL British to figure it out. Then we have to forgive the ditzo historians who decided that someone in their family was not patriotic to which ever side they seemed to be on at the time of the Revolution - because they didn't know the whole story and forgot about the details in the next few generations as well. Meanwhile they were still blaming someone for something they did or didn't do or didn't report very well because they didn't know 'the rest of the story'. Just because they wound up on the other side or started on the other side for reasons we don't understand doesn't make them the bad guys! There are a hundred reasons why your New England Pages might have appeared to -change sides, -change religions, -change locations, that most people don't know about. I think it is wonderful that the scientific DNA proves that so many of these lines ARE related. It is forcing us to look back and re-learn the history our ancestors forgot about in their blindness to join up with the idea that their ancestors did something great once. If the DAR or the UEL Association has prompted you to start researching your genealogy, they forgot to tell you the rest of the story -which you can also be proud of! You can't take responsibility for all the mistakes and errors of your ancestors either. I am saying that there is so much that has been hidden in the effort to promote patriotism - from one side or the other. So many PAGE lines were simply going where the new land was and doing the best they could under horrific conditions. Most were taking the best options they could through all the politics of wars and famines and religious or political hatreds to complicate matters. Even the crooks and robbers in our past are exceptional just for the fact that they survived. Oops, I got pretty far on that old soapbox didn't I? Love to all my 'cousins' (proven or not), Ruthanne Page - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Eileen Page Coyle wrote: > ...still searching for Benjamin Page who married Abigail Griffin. >they were living in Londonderry, NH between 1809 and at least 1819. > Some of the children are: > > Orlando b. 1 Oct 1816 > Franklin b. abt 1815 > Leonard b. 6 Mar 1819 > > Joel b. 23 Oct 1809 may be another son. > Thanks, Eileen Page Coyle > >

Hello Listers, I am still searching for Benjamin Page who married Abigail Griffin. I don't know when or where they were married, but I know they were living in Londonderry, NH between 1809 and at least 1819. The children that I know of are: Orlando b. 1 Oct 1816 Franklin b. abt 1815 Leonard b. 6 Mar 1819 Although I have no proof, evidence shows that Joel b. 23 Oct 1809 may be another son. Thanks for any help. Eileen Page Coyle

Dear Page List Researchers: Does anyone know the parents or birth location of Mary Page who married Gershon Wilson Smith in 1847? He was also known as Wilson Smith. They were married in Reach Twp. in Ontario County, Upper Canada in 1847. In some Censuses she stated that her father was from NY and her mother was from Scotland. This is a dead end for one friend of mine searching for the roots of that family. All help would be greatly appreciated! Best wishes to all for a Happy 4th of July, Ruthanne Page

I've "rescued" an old photograph identified as Mr. James PAGE which was taken at the Haynes Studio in St. Paul, Minnesota. The photograph appears to have been taken in the early 1900's with Mr. PAGE appearing to be in his 50's or 60's at the time it was taken. Thanks to the assistance of a PAGE Family Researcher I believe that this is a photograph of James PAGE b. 17 May 1861 in Livingston Co. MI and d. 17 Nov 1923 in St. Paul MN. James was married to Fanny MEAD. The photograph was recovered along with other belonging to the NYE, KENT, COMFORT, and MCKUNE Families, though I've no idea if there is a connection though I mention it just in case it is a clue. I am hoping to locate someone from James' family so that this wonderful old photograph can be returned to their care. If you are a member of this family, or you know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

Hello Page Researchers, Just wondering if a Martha Stow Page rings a bell to anyone? Possibly born 25 Oct. 1829 in Marlborough, Cheshire Co., NH. Possibly married a Thomas Jewett. This Martha Stow Page was possibly the daughter of a Charles Page and Elizabeth R. Warren. This not my research, but are affiliated with my Pages of Walpole, Norfolk Co., MA. It's someone else's research that was given to me and I found a Martha Stow Page in it. Do I recall reading a past post on the "list" in regards to a Martha Stow Page? Possibly this is a different Martha Stow Page? Regards, Stephen Page

PLEASE EXPAND TO FULL SCREEN By FAR the best reference of the descendants of Robert Page, husbandman, & his wife Lucy (Ward/Warde) Page of Hampton, NH, is on the following web site. [It can be saved as a text file in whichever word processor one has. As such it is possible to easily cut & paste portions to outgoing E-mail messages between interested parties or refer to individuals and their families by page number and/or register sequence number.] Here's the web site to click-on to see it in a 'Printer Friendly' version: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=hampton%2Dnh&id=I346&printer_friendly GWP

Hello George, I have followed with interest your messages involving the Page Y-DNA Project (without, of course, being able to see the actual results). A 2nd gr-aunt married into the attached Page line (PDF file) and piqued my curiosity enough to follow the line from VT to CA as they seem to have moved pretty much in sync with my Harvey line. I am curious as to whether you have found a DNA donor from this general line? I am not acquainted with any of these Pages other than with a female 2nd cousin once removed who I have only met with once. This Page line appears to have had several males who lived and married in VT but I have not tried to connect with any of them - although now that Ancestry has finished all their census work it might not be too hard to do. I guess I am curious as to how the Robert Page line is fleshing out when the extra scrutiny of applying Y-DNA is added? Please do not release the name or other details of the last male Page on this list - he is still living as far as I am aware. I have followed your Page research endeavors from afar for many years - you have accumulated a most impressive paper trail database and are now fine tuning with DNA. A most interesting and sometimes surprising! combination of research methods. Let me know if there is any interest in this line at this point? Bill Harvey

Thanks so much for referring me to the Page publications. Our Huntsville, Alabama, library may not have those in their collection. Will check. Unless I can locate my ancestor in a court document, I'm afraid that we can go no further. Thanks again. Jeanne Hand Henry ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I have a biography of Thomas Nelson Page published in 1923 and written by Thomas's brother, Rosewell. I believe it is titled simply "Thomas Nelson Page". It has a brief chapter on family history in which it points out the aristocratic background of both his Page line and the Nelson line. Several Pages and Nelsons intermarried. Thomas's grandfather, John, the Virginia governor, I believe, was a very close friend of Thomas Jefferson. It has been a few years since I read it, but I did glance at that chapter last night to see if it listed all his brothers and sisters. I didn't see much about his siblings, but you might want to check out that book. I am a subscriber to the list who has procrastinated about doing the DNA thing. Our family has been traced, with some degree of accuracy, back to the 1700's. I must confess I have not been interested in the tedium of genealogical research, but I do enjoy the stories associated with my ancestry. I like to hear about their hardships, their successes, their migration from North Carolina to South Carolina to Tennessee to Wayne County, Missouri, to Ogle County, Illinois. Now, of course, we are scattered all over. I live in Oklahoma City. My son lives in Dallas and my daughter in Atlanta. I probably shouldn't post anything to this group because much of what I say may be just speculation on my part, but I do try to make it clear that this is "what I think" or "what I have heard" or "as I recall". But maybe I at least provide others with some clues. I have eight or ten old books circa 1900-1930 written by or about Walter Page and Thomas Page. They are great reading, even if you are not interested in the Page family. "The Life and Letters of Walter Page" was award winning and it is a first-hand, inside, look at what goes on with politics at the very highest level while Walter was serving as Ambassador to England. Read his correspondence with President Woodrow Wilson. Read about the power of big oil, the Panama Canal controversy, the problems in Mexico. Much of the narrative could be published as a documentary of what is going on in 2007 rather than 1917. See how Walter lobbied the President to enter World War I, against much objection. The Walter Page Life and Letters books are in four volumes and some family history is included. It mentions Cary, Pinehurst and other North Carolina places. Ron -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dolores C. Rutherford Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 5:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAGE] Charles Nash Page of Virginia Carol, Can you give me some more information on how to get the listing by MSN for the PAGE book(s)? Dolores Carol C-H wrote: > > Ruthanne, there is a marvelous digitized Virginia PAGE genealogy > online at > http://tinyurl.com/34959k Realize that this is > MSN's beta books site and if you do not use Windows, you may need to > register - and some people who live outside the USA have had > difficulty accessing it, though I do not know if their living outside > the USA is the reason for the difficulty - that has been reported and > hopefully will be corrected very soon - at any rate, if you can access > the site, there is a treasure trove of info there. > > Carol > > At 03:15 PM 6/7/2007, you wrote: > >Carla- > >There must be a PAGE descendant on this list who could help you "do" > >all the Pages of Virginia. There was an excellent book written about > >that family in 1893 by one Richard Canning Moore PAGE, MD. I got my > >copy from Higginsons Books years ago and determined that these Pages > >who are not "mine". You would be doing a great service to transcribe > >that entire book into a genealogy database and then add your own line > >where they take off. Possibly someone has done that already with > >connections to 'their' line. This is one of the big founding > >families of North America and includes Gov. John Page (of VA), Hon. Mann Page and the > >author Thomas Nelson Page. Place names in Virginia are wild and crazy > >to someone from thousands of miles away and I see locations such as > >Goochland, Roswell, and Rug Swamp which are hilarious in my mind. I > >have long had the theory that there are only so many place names > >available in the world and now I find that almost every state has a > >'Turkey Hills' from you. This really threw me as 'Turkey Hills' is a > >location where Pages in my Line (from Samuel-3, John2, John-1 and > >Phebe > >Paine) had a huge family in Lunenburg. Mass. He was called 'Old > >Governor Page' which is a modernization of Guv'ner or a polite term > >for someone not an Esq. or a Mr. or didn't have an old military title > >like Capt. Of Maj. Or Lt. which they can retain long after the > >military service has ended. > > > >I would seriously like to know more about that Charles Nash Page who > >must be in that Virginia group of Pages. This is the type of thing > >that will keep springing up forever with people in other families - > >who all have the same name but usually they are simpler ones. The > >confusion about different Gov. John Page's (who were all fine men) - reigns > >supreme. There are quite a few of them around too! Somebody has > >likely done much of their own line and maybe even most of that old book. > > Do we have any experts in the thousands of descendants of Pages of > >Virginia out there? Is this identified by one of the Family Groups > >in the DNA studies George? Anyone who has done theirs back to any of > >those 'founders' should identify themselves and get a PAGE man in > >their family to take the DNA test ASAP- please! Your own 'tree' will > >set the standard for that whole group - even if there are no others just yet. > >So many people do just their own straight line back to the 'founder' > >in North America - but the brothers and sisters if you know them from > >an old book like this will be invaluable to others trying to take > >advantage of this digital age. > >Regards to all, Ruthanne Page > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have been reading the Page mail, with the hope of finding a clue for my Catharine Page who m Samuel Ault in Lycoming Co. PA. She was born in 1794 and lived in Northumberland Co....became part of Lycoming Co in 1795. I realize not much here. Thanks, E Bryan ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I have a few of the books written by Thomas Nelson Page as well as a biography written by his brother. I will try to take a look at the biography and see what it has to say about Thomas's ancestors. I find it interesting that during World War I Thomas Nelson Page, of the Virginia Pages, was Ambassador to Italy and Walter Hines Page, of the North Carolina Pages, was Ambassador to England. Both were authors. I also find it interesting that in all the books I've read by and about those Pages, Walter perceives himself as a farmer, while Thomas sees himself as a plantation owner. Reading between the lines, I think Walter controlled as much, if not more, farmland and real estate than Thomas. Basically, it seems to me, the Virginia line had a more aristocratic view of themselves even though the North Carolina Pages were probably equally affluent and maybe more cosmopolitan (Page-Doubleday Publishing, etc.) The Virginia Pages stayed pretty close to Roswell, I think, while the North Carolina Pages were always on the move, acquiring land, building large farms, building towns - more of a frontiersy kind of people. Maybe this is just my take on the few books I've read. I haven't really researched this at all. Ron Page -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ruthanne Page Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 3:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PAGE] Charles Nash Page of Virginia Carla- There must be a PAGE descendant on this list who could help you "do" all the Pages of Virginia. There was an excellent book written about that family in 1893 by one Richard Canning Moore PAGE, MD. I got my copy from Higginsons Books years ago and determined that these Pages who are not "mine". You would be doing a great service to transcribe that entire book into a genealogy database and then add your own line where they take off. Possibly someone has done that already with connections to 'their' line. This is one of the big founding families of North America and includes Gov. John Page (of VA), Hon. Mann Page and the author Thomas Nelson Page. Place names in Virginia are wild and crazy to someone from thousands of miles away and I see locations such as Goochland, Roswell, and Rug Swamp which are hilarious in my mind. I have long had the theory that there are only so many place names available in the world and now I find that almost every state has a 'Turkey Hills' from you. This really threw me as 'Turkey Hills' is a location where Pages in my Line (from Samuel-3, John2, John-1 and Phebe Paine) had a huge family in Lunenburg. Mass. He was called 'Old Governor Page' which is a modernization of Guv'ner or a polite term for someone not an Esq. or a Mr. or didn't have an old military title like Capt. Of Maj. Or Lt. which they can retain long after the military service has ended. I would seriously like to know more about that Charles Nash Page who must be in that Virginia group of Pages. This is the type of thing that will keep springing up forever with people in other families - who all have the same name but usually they are simpler ones. The confusion about different Gov. John Page's (who were all fine men) - reigns supreme. There are quite a few of them around too! Somebody has likely done much of their own line and maybe even most of that old book. Do we have any experts in the thousands of descendants of Pages of Virginia out there? Is this identified by one of the Family Groups in the DNA studies George? Anyone who has done theirs back to any of those 'founders' should identify themselves and get a PAGE man in their family to take the DNA test ASAP- please! Your own 'tree' will set the standard for that whole group - even if there are no others just yet. So many people do just their own straight line back to the 'founder' in North America - but the brothers and sisters if you know them from an old book like this will be invaluable to others trying to take advantage of this digital age. Regards to all, Ruthanne Page ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Carol, Can you give me some more information on how to get the listing by MSN for the PAGE book(s)? Dolores Carol C-H wrote: > > Ruthanne, there is a marvelous digitized Virginia > PAGE genealogy online at > http://tinyurl.com/34959k Realize that this is > MSN's beta books site and if you do not use > Windows, you may need to register - and some > people who live outside the USA have had > difficulty accessing it, though I do not know if > their living outside the USA is the reason for > the difficulty - that has been reported and > hopefully will be corrected very soon - at any > rate, if you can access the site, there is a treasure trove of info there. > > Carol > > At 03:15 PM 6/7/2007, you wrote: > >Carla- > >There must be a PAGE descendant on this list who could help you “do” all > >the Pages of Virginia. There was an excellent book written about that > >family in 1893 by one Richard Canning Moore PAGE, MD. I got my copy > >from Higginsons Books years ago and determined that these Pages who are > >not “mine”. You would be doing a great service to transcribe that > >entire book into a genealogy database and then add your own line where > >they take off. Possibly someone has done that already with connections > >to ‘their’ line. This is one of the big founding families of North > >America and includes Gov. John Page (of VA), Hon. Mann Page and the > >author Thomas Nelson Page. Place names in Virginia are wild and crazy > >to someone from thousands of miles away and I see locations such as > >Goochland, Roswell, and Rug Swamp which are hilarious in my mind. I > >have long had the theory that there are only so many place names > >available in the world and now I find that almost every state has a > >‘Turkey Hills’ from you. This really threw me as ‘Turkey Hills’ is a > >location where Pages in my Line (from Samuel-3, John2, John-1 and Phebe > >Paine) had a huge family in Lunenburg. Mass. He was called ‘Old > >Governor Page’ which is a modernization of Guv’ner or a polite term for > >someone not an Esq. or a Mr. or didn’t have an old military title like > >Capt. Of Maj. Or Lt. which they can retain long after the military > >service has ended. > > > >I would seriously like to know more about that Charles Nash Page who > >must be in that Virginia group of Pages. This is the type of thing that > >will keep springing up forever with people in other families ­ who all > >have the same name but usually they are simpler ones. The confusion > >about different Gov. John Page’s (who were all fine men) - reigns > >supreme. There are quite a few of them around too! Somebody has > >likely done much of their own line and maybe even most of that old book. > > Do we have any experts in the thousands of descendants of Pages of > >Virginia out there? Is this identified by one of the Family Groups in > >the DNA studies George? Anyone who has done theirs back to any of > >those ‘founders’ should identify themselves and get a PAGE man in their > >family to take the DNA test ASAP­ please! Your own ‘tree’ will set the > >standard for that whole group ­ even if there are no others just yet. > >So many people do just their own straight line back to the ‘founder’ in > >North America ­ but the brothers and sisters if you know them from an > >old book like this will be invaluable to others trying to take advantage > >of this digital age. > >Regards to all, Ruthanne Page > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > >email to [email protected] with the word > >'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ruthanne, there is a marvelous digitized Virginia PAGE genealogy online at http://tinyurl.com/34959k Realize that this is MSN's beta books site and if you do not use Windows, you may need to register - and some people who live outside the USA have had difficulty accessing it, though I do not know if their living outside the USA is the reason for the difficulty - that has been reported and hopefully will be corrected very soon - at any rate, if you can access the site, there is a treasure trove of info there. Carol At 03:15 PM 6/7/2007, you wrote: >Carla- >There must be a PAGE descendant on this list who could help you “do” all >the Pages of Virginia. There was an excellent book written about that >family in 1893 by one Richard Canning Moore PAGE, MD. I got my copy >from Higginsons Books years ago and determined that these Pages who are >not “mine”. You would be doing a great service to transcribe that >entire book into a genealogy database and then add your own line where >they take off. Possibly someone has done that already with connections >to ‘their’ line. This is one of the big founding families of North >America and includes Gov. John Page (of VA), Hon. Mann Page and the >author Thomas Nelson Page. Place names in Virginia are wild and crazy >to someone from thousands of miles away and I see locations such as >Goochland, Roswell, and Rug Swamp which are hilarious in my mind. I >have long had the theory that there are only so many place names >available in the world and now I find that almost every state has a >‘Turkey Hills’ from you. This really threw me as ‘Turkey Hills’ is a >location where Pages in my Line (from Samuel-3, John2, John-1 and Phebe >Paine) had a huge family in Lunenburg. Mass. He was called ‘Old >Governor Page’ which is a modernization of Guv’ner or a polite term for >someone not an Esq. or a Mr. or didn’t have an old military title like >Capt. Of Maj. Or Lt. which they can retain long after the military >service has ended. > >I would seriously like to know more about that Charles Nash Page who >must be in that Virginia group of Pages. This is the type of thing that >will keep springing up forever with people in other families ­ who all >have the same name but usually they are simpler ones. The confusion >about different Gov. John Page’s (who were all fine men) - reigns >supreme. There are quite a few of them around too! Somebody has >likely done much of their own line and maybe even most of that old book. > Do we have any experts in the thousands of descendants of Pages of >Virginia out there? Is this identified by one of the Family Groups in >the DNA studies George? Anyone who has done theirs back to any of >those ‘founders’ should identify themselves and get a PAGE man in their >family to take the DNA test ASAP­ please! Your own ‘tree’ will set the >standard for that whole group ­ even if there are no others just yet. >So many people do just their own straight line back to the ‘founder’ in >North America ­ but the brothers and sisters if you know them from an >old book like this will be invaluable to others trying to take advantage >of this digital age. >Regards to all, Ruthanne Page > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >email to [email protected] with the word >'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 01:15 PM 6/7/2007, you wrote: >Carla- >There must be a PAGE descendant on this list who could help you "do" all >the Pages of Virginia. There was an excellent book written about that >family in 1893 by one Richard Canning Moore PAGE, MD. ... >You would be doing a great service to transcribe that >entire book into a genealogy database and then add your own line where >they take off. Possibly someone has done that already with connections >to 'their' line. No they haven't! This NEEDS to be done by someone from the PAGE-NELSON Society. Another important task should be to prepare a better (complete) index of the latest version of the book. GWP

According to Charles Nash Page there was an elected state Governor who was a descendant of John & Phoebe (Paine) Page: John5 Page, b. Lunneberg, Mass. on July 16, 1741 (Nathaniel4; Samuel3; John2; John 1 & Phoebe Page) m. Hannah Greene and moved to Haverhill, NH in 1762, where they had their first born child: John6 Page, b. May 21, 1787 who was elected to the U.S. Senate and then Governor of New Hampshire in 1839, 1840, and 1841. He died in 1865. He had at least one known son - John7 A. Page, b. Haverhill, NH on June 17, 1814, m. Martha Ward and served as State Treasurer of Vermont. The Governor's younger siblings were shown with no information about them: William; Samuel; and Stephen Page. [Source: Page Family Genealogical Chart # 2, Point Loma, CA, Dec. 1917.] GWP

Your understanding is correct in very early times. It is what is referred to as an occupational name as is: Weaver, Tanner, Carpenter, Sawyer, Smith, etc.. Last names really started only about 6-700 years ago, and in the case of PAGE not all were noble's sons! The derivation/use of the name PAIGE is still clouded in mystery. It was used at least as 1495 interchangeable by one of my Thomas Page when referring to his son Thomas PAGE/PAIGE in the same will. GWP _______ At 08:47 PM 6/9/2007, you wrote: >Is my understanding fairly accurate? I have always thought that the surname >Page was probably derived from the person being a "page" in the court of a >nobleman (king or others). LaFon Stone Commander > > > >************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message