Just to follow up on Ruthanne's note to the PAGE list regarding navigating the Library and Archives Canada Website for Canadian Expedtionary Force Attestation Papers...and especially for those of us who find things better when not having to use the search function... When you get to the first page (after the splash page) then just click on "Canadian Genealogy Centre", which is the first box UNDER the search box on the right-hand side of the page... ...it will take you to the Centre's Webpage, and you will find a short listing now on that page, where it says "Most Requested Records" (it's among the 4 boxes in the middle of the page) and ...click on "MIlitary" in the list, and ...it will take you to another page, with a sub-list on the LEFT hand side, under "Military" - the pertinent heading for Attestation Papers is "First World War" and it tells you all about those and more, including air and navy and courts martial, etc. Another good place to explore, once you have "found your man" is the one about "War Diaries" because they have on line now all of the War Diaries of all of the CEF units that went overseas (one page at a time, unfortunately, but there, nonetheless!). Also, if you know the ship on which "your man" returned to Canada in 1919, you can look it up under ships' lists, with the date, and find ship passenger lists - usually the returning soldiers are all listed separately form the regular passengers. Mary Anne > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:02:02 -0700 > From: Ruthanne Page <[email protected]> > Subject: [PAGE] How to Search for WW1 Canadian Military Applications > To: Page Digest <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > Dear PAGE Surname Group Researchers: > Following the trail to get to Canadian WW1 Military Application papers > is difficult but helpful if it finds YOUR ancestor who could have been > in Canada right at that time and signed up to go and fight for England. > A lot of newly arrived British Pages in the USA in early 1900?s did > exactly that and hurried right up to Canada to apply when WW1 became a > reality back in their motherland. One of our readers on the PAGE > Surname Website asked me how to do this even after I had told her to > search for CEF or Canadian Expeditionary Forces on Google. She is > right. It is still hard to find. > > Here is the trail I followed to get to the right page on the National > Archives of Canada website. It is long and arduous ? but worth it. > There is a one line answer among these steps too but this will make it > all crystal clear. > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Home page of Library and Archives Canada which is - > http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/02010602_e.html > > Next I did a search of CEF Attestation Papers [note the magic words. > They are not called Enlistment papers or Applications]? - get to a > website search page showing the first choice of 9 choices > > Choice #1 = > http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/archivianet/cef/index-e.html > > This shows a Home Page for ?Soldiers of the First World War ? CEF? > Left column shows a tab ?SEARCH?, click on this - > Which arrives at the actual Search Page - > http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/archivianet/cef/001042-100.01-e.php > > In the blanks simply enter PAGE or PA?GE, change to list 50 names per > page, choose GO??. > > See a lot of A names for Pages. This shows #?s 1-50 of 374, choose > Next, etc. Now you can go through all PAGE names. > -------------------- ------------------------ > I did another search to retry for PAIGE names which shows: > Results 1-17 of 17. > ---------------------- ---------------------- > Entering PA?GE with the wild card search for alternate spellings shows: > #1 ? 18 of 18 which includes one more than the last search which is a > PAEGE spelling. All the rest show PAIGE.. > > So next I tried a few spellings that I think have been used in past - > Paetch yielded - zero results ? yet this spelling was used in one of > the 1869 Upper Canada Atlases and some of the 1780s lists of German > soldiers applying for land after the Revolution. > > Pasch? As in Pasche ? zero > Paesche ? zero results > Pagee - yilded 5 individuals who joined up. This was an English way of > writing PAG? once. > Pag? ? to cover Pag? ? showed a list of 374 total so this is likely the > same Search as Page. > Pa?g? to cover all the wildcard spellings I can think of showed ? only > 20 results mostly the PAIGE spelling but a few Paugh and 1 Paege spelling. > > Most applications show 2 pages of the application Front and Back. Next > of Kin - will show a father or wife?s name and a birth date and a > signature of the applicant, also a place of birth. > > Actually that very last spelling I searched showed the applicant to be a > son of Ottawa Paege and a birthplace of Stanton, Nebr. USA so the > tradition of moving around goes on. Lots of Pages crossed the borders > in all directions even the 1900?s. I guess I am one of them too having > moved south in 1992. The problem of tracking the early ones who moved > around is a really common thing. If you should ever think that your > family didn?t always live in one place (because you can?t find the > records!) you are probably correct! > > I copied all these WW1 Application papers several years ago but did not > put them all into my early Canadian PAGE name database. (I will do that > soon) It was amusing to see the tattoos described under the physical > description on the Back sheet in one of these applications. The front > had listed the young soldiers Next of Kin as his wife Mary Page if I > remember correctly, and the tattoo he had was described under Physical > Descriptions on p2 as ?I Love Mary? which was so sweet but not too > helpful for genealogy clues. > > Printing out these images of old Applications is incredibly easy now > when Windows Document and Imaging Wizard takes over in XP to help you > make the print. It is just like a high quality Xerox you would do > yourself. What a joy. Just as good as going to the library yourself! > The full military records are also available if you send in a credit > card number The days of having to really know what you were doing with > photos and pictures to print out something from an archives website are > finally gone ?[ good riddance!] I just want to use the computer for > what I want to do (Genealogy) and let the geeks carry on understanding > why it actually works! I do not want to be a computer expert. > > This will answer your questions about WW1 Application papers in Canada. > For starters they have to be called Attestation Papers and nothing else. > The Library and Archives website is so complex and difficult to > navigate that archivists there spend a lot of time on the phone simply > helping people to navigate the website. > > Don't you think that Searching is a little like Prayer (nobody said God > was like a giant computer in the sky though) but the actual answer isn?t > really ?No!?... maybe.....you didn?t ask the exact right Question! > > I will BCC this to a few other researchers I know too who might be > looking for answers in Canada. Most of them know this part already. > Cheers, Ruthanne > >>

Dear PAGE Surname Group Researchers: Following the trail to get to Canadian WW1 Military Application papers is difficult but helpful if it finds YOUR ancestor who could have been in Canada right at that time and signed up to go and fight for England. A lot of newly arrived British Pages in the USA in early 1900’s did exactly that and hurried right up to Canada to apply when WW1 became a reality back in their motherland. One of our readers on the PAGE Surname Website asked me how to do this even after I had told her to search for CEF or Canadian Expeditionary Forces on Google. She is right. It is still hard to find. Here is the trail I followed to get to the right page on the National Archives of Canada website. It is long and arduous – but worth it. There is a one line answer among these steps too but this will make it all crystal clear. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Home page of Library and Archives Canada which is - http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/02010602_e.html Next I did a search of CEF Attestation Papers [note the magic words. They are not called Enlistment papers or Applications]– - get to a website search page showing the first choice of 9 choices Choice #1 = http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/archivianet/cef/index-e.html This shows a Home Page for ‘Soldiers of the First World War – CEF’ Left column shows a tab “SEARCH”, click on this - Which arrives at the actual Search Page - http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/archivianet/cef/001042-100.01-e.php In the blanks simply enter PAGE or PA?GE, change to list 50 names per page, choose GO……. See a lot of A names for Pages. This shows #’s 1-50 of 374, choose Next, etc. Now you can go through all PAGE names. -------------------- ------------------------ I did another search to retry for PAIGE names which shows: Results 1-17 of 17. ---------------------- ---------------------- Entering PA?GE with the wild card search for alternate spellings shows: #1 – 18 of 18 which includes one more than the last search which is a PAEGE spelling. All the rest show PAIGE.. So next I tried a few spellings that I think have been used in past - Paetch yielded - zero results – yet this spelling was used in one of the 1869 Upper Canada Atlases and some of the 1780s lists of German soldiers applying for land after the Revolution. Pasch? As in Pasche – zero Paesche – zero results Pagee - yilded 5 individuals who joined up. This was an English way of writing PAGÉ once. Pag? – to cover Pagé – showed a list of 374 total so this is likely the same Search as Page. Pa?g? to cover all the wildcard spellings I can think of showed – only 20 results mostly the PAIGE spelling but a few Paugh and 1 Paege spelling. Most applications show 2 pages of the application Front and Back. Next of Kin - will show a father or wife’s name and a birth date and a signature of the applicant, also a place of birth. Actually that very last spelling I searched showed the applicant to be a son of Ottawa Paege and a birthplace of Stanton, Nebr. USA so the tradition of moving around goes on. Lots of Pages crossed the borders in all directions even the 1900’s. I guess I am one of them too having moved south in 1992. The problem of tracking the early ones who moved around is a really common thing. If you should ever think that your family didn’t always live in one place (because you can’t find the records!) you are probably correct! I copied all these WW1 Application papers several years ago but did not put them all into my early Canadian PAGE name database. (I will do that soon) It was amusing to see the tattoos described under the physical description on the Back sheet in one of these applications. The front had listed the young soldiers Next of Kin as his wife Mary Page if I remember correctly, and the tattoo he had was described under Physical Descriptions on p2 as ”I Love Mary” which was so sweet but not too helpful for genealogy clues. Printing out these images of old Applications is incredibly easy now when Windows Document and Imaging Wizard takes over in XP to help you make the print. It is just like a high quality Xerox you would do yourself. What a joy. Just as good as going to the library yourself! The full military records are also available if you send in a credit card number The days of having to really know what you were doing with photos and pictures to print out something from an archives website are finally gone –[ good riddance!] I just want to use the computer for what I want to do (Genealogy) and let the geeks carry on understanding why it actually works! I do not want to be a computer expert. This will answer your questions about WW1 Application papers in Canada. For starters they have to be called Attestation Papers and nothing else. The Library and Archives website is so complex and difficult to navigate that archivists there spend a lot of time on the phone simply helping people to navigate the website. Don't you think that Searching is a little like Prayer (nobody said God was like a giant computer in the sky though) but the actual answer isn’t really ‘No!’... maybe.....you didn’t ask the exact right Question! I will BCC this to a few other researchers I know too who might be looking for answers in Canada. Most of them know this part already. Cheers, Ruthanne

tucker wheeler page had to have been born in the 1700,s sometime,what i,m wondering is who his parents were,and how he figures into the albemarle county virginia "PAGE FAMILIES" HERE IS SOMETHING I FOUND INTERESTING ONLINE Mann Page [27396] --------------- b.1691, Rosewell, Gloucester Co. VA d.24_Jun_1730, Rosewell, Gloucester Co. VA Anne Corbin Tayloe [27482] ------ 3rd wife of Mann Page |-- Gov. John Page [27483] | |-- Mann Page [27484] | |-- Edward Page [27485] | | our edward page was the brother of governer john page,born 1776 http://www.hdhdata.org/roots/d0046.shtml THIS WEBSITE IS NOW CACHED! YOU WILL HAVE TO CLICK ON WHERE IT SAYS CACHED. I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING THAT SOMEONE WHOM EVER CHOSE NOT TO GIVE THEIR NAME OR METHOS OF THEIR RESEARCH.I,M JUST WONDERING HOW TUCKER WHEELER PAGE FIGURES IN.SAMUEL PAGE THAT LIVES IN NORTH GARDEN VIRGINIA,I MET HIM WHILE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE,HE AND I ARE TRYING TO FIND OUT IF MY EDWARD PAGE IS RELATED TO HIS SIDE OF THE FAMILY.NOW THIS MR.LIBBY AN EPISCOPALIAN PREACHER THAT ALSO GIVES TOURS OF BRUTON PARISH CHURCH IN WILLIAMSBURG,HE SEEMS TO THINK MY EDWARD PAGE IS A PART OF THE "ROSEWELL"PAGE FAMILY,HE TOLD ME HE HAD SEEN DOCUMENTATION STATING THAT EDWARD PAGE WAS THE SON OF MANN PAGE THE 3RD&ANN CORBIN TAYLOE. HE TOLD ME THAT WITH EDWARD,S BIRTH BEING IN 1776,HE WAS PROBABLY BORN IN GLOUCESTER COUNTY,VIRGINIA OR IN WILLIAMSBURG.MANN PAGE AND ANN CORBIN TAYLOE WERE LIVING AT TUCKAHOE IN GOOCHLAND,VIRGINIA EDWARD COULD HAVE BEEN BORN AT TUCKAHOE.WHAT IS YOUR OPINION OF WHAT I,VE POSTED HERE ABOUT EDWARD PAGE? IS IT POSSIBLE? "Dolores C. Rutherford" <[email protected]> wrote: One Tucker PAGE was first taxed in Albemarle Co., VA in 1803. He md. Mary/Milly WHEELER there on 3 Dec 1806. She was the dau. of Micajah WHEELER who gave his consent to the marriage. Micajah's wife was Susan WOODSON, dau. of John. Tucker PAGE was in Washington Co., VA by 1813. Smythe Co. was created from part of Washington and Wythe Counties in 1832 and a Tucker PAGE (also taxed as Tucker W. PAGE, T. W. PAGE and "possibly" as Tarlton W. PAGE (in 1850) was taxed in Smythe Co., VA from 1832-1850. I didn't read the tax lists past 1850 in VA, so he may have been there past that date. Perhaps this Tucker and Mary (WHEELER) PAGE were the parents of the Tucker Wheeler PAGE of your search. Reference for the above is: "History of Albemarle County, Virginia" by Rev. Edgar Woods, 1901: 342. Dolores in CA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

One Tucker PAGE was first taxed in Albemarle Co., VA in 1803. He md. Mary/Milly WHEELER there on 3 Dec 1806. She was the dau. of Micajah WHEELER who gave his consent to the marriage. Micajah's wife was Susan WOODSON, dau. of John. Tucker PAGE was in Washington Co., VA by 1813. Smythe Co. was created from part of Washington and Wythe Counties in 1832 and a Tucker PAGE (also taxed as Tucker W. PAGE, T. W. PAGE and "possibly" as Tarlton W. PAGE (in 1850) was taxed in Smythe Co., VA from 1832-1850. I didn't read the tax lists past 1850 in VA, so he may have been there past that date. Perhaps this Tucker and Mary (WHEELER) PAGE were the parents of the Tucker Wheeler PAGE of your search. Reference for the above is: "History of Albemarle County, Virginia" by Rev. Edgar Woods, 1901: 342. Dolores in CA

Dear Daniel Page: Please e-mail me off list with a descendancy chart of those Page families you knew who came from Britain to /North America. I need the possible ones who were actually IN Canada to search Ancestry.ca for possible births, deaths or Marriages. There are so many names that are similar in every family. I would appreciate the dates you DO know for each one. The easiest way to do this is in Word or just a straightforward GEDCOM. Was Joshua the first one to go to Canada? I am pretty sure I have seen that name Keziah Page somewhere but it is not in my data base. It doesn’t seem to be in my own family line either. I checked from Edmond and Lydia and Joshua and Keziah but they seem to be hiding if they are there. It is easier to search for unusual names alright. Did any of the children go back to England for WW1? The enlistment papers for about 400 Page names are on the National Archives website. Many who were in the US but born in England signed up to go back via Canada and fight for England. Do the search on “Canadian Expeditionary Forces” to find these actual records. I will check out the actual URL if that doesn’t work. Best wishes, Ruthanne Page

Dates are rather important. Did this tucker wheeler page begin life in 1750 or maybe 1850 or maybe in 1950. One needs to learn how to ask the right meaningful question. This exercise should be a sincere question and not a test of I got you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "carla page" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [PAGE] Pages from England > okay,i have a question? who was tucker wheeler page who was born in > albemarle county,virginia and who were his parents? and how does he fit in > with the albemarle county,virginia "page family"? just wondering. > > Ruthanne Page <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Mary Ann: > I notice you are in Ottawa. Did any of that Page family you are > wondering about come to Canada at any time after they got to North > America? > I would be very pleased to communicate with you off the list about any > Pages in early Canada. I have a huge database of Page families > including my own who were there for many years, and some still are! > So many American Page families went to Canada at different times and so > many new ones came through Canada also to various US and Canadian > destinations in the 1800's. It is difficult to keep track of them all > but I have an awfully good start at it. Any help would be greatly > appreciated. > > Also-Ottawa area sure puts on a great Gene-orama (Genealogy Seminar). I > was at the one last year in about April 2006. What wonderful speakers > you had. Wish I could have come again. > Love from the south and west, > Ruthanne ( a cousin maybe) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Is there anyone on the list who is researching the PAGE and TOAL surnames,in conjunction with each other, in Western New York State and in the Southern Tier of Western New York?....with connections to Northern Ireland!! If so,please contact me at... [email protected] Thanks! Danny Ginnane in Charleston,SC

okay,i have a question? who was tucker wheeler page who was born in albemarle county,virginia and who were his parents? and how does he fit in with the albemarle county,virginia "page family"? just wondering. Ruthanne Page <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Mary Ann: I notice you are in Ottawa. Did any of that Page family you are wondering about come to Canada at any time after they got to North America? I would be very pleased to communicate with you off the list about any Pages in early Canada. I have a huge database of Page families including my own who were there for many years, and some still are! So many American Page families went to Canada at different times and so many new ones came through Canada also to various US and Canadian destinations in the 1800's. It is difficult to keep track of them all but I have an awfully good start at it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Also-Ottawa area sure puts on a great Gene-orama (Genealogy Seminar). I was at the one last year in about April 2006. What wonderful speakers you had. Wish I could have come again. Love from the south and west, Ruthanne ( a cousin maybe) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

^This is in response to Ruthanne's reply to Mary Ann. My GGGgrandfather wasEdmond Page married to Lydia Partridge. My GGgranfather (their son) was Thomas Page Married to Mary Hunibal. Their son Joshua was my Ggrandfather. It is believes that the origionated to eth Norfolk, or Suffolk,England. Joshua was married Keziah Sharman.. Joshua was a farm laborer at Bedingfiels,Suffolk and they were married May 21,1861. During their marriage they were employed on farms enduing in Grundisburgh, suffolk. They had nine children,Joshua(1859)William(1863)Thomas(1864)Daniel(1865) (my my grandfather was Daniel)(1868)Frederick(1870)Edward(1876)Maurella(1879)Ethel(1880). My grandfather emigrated to Canada in 1889, and we think Frederick emigrated to New York USA, Arthur lived and died in Crewe where he was employed by British rail. I have additional information, but none on Joshua,William or Thomas. Keziah also died at Crewe. I am anxious to learn more. Daniel Page

John, Do you by any chance have the new address for Janet Littlejohn? I'd like to contact her. Barb

Hi Mary Ann: I notice you are in Ottawa. Did any of that Page family you are wondering about come to Canada at any time after they got to North America? I would be very pleased to communicate with you off the list about any Pages in early Canada. I have a huge database of Page families including my own who were there for many years, and some still are! So many American Page families went to Canada at different times and so many new ones came through Canada also to various US and Canadian destinations in the 1800's. It is difficult to keep track of them all but I have an awfully good start at it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Also-Ottawa area sure puts on a great Gene-orama (Genealogy Seminar). I was at the one last year in about April 2006. What wonderful speakers you had. Wish I could have come again. Love from the south and west, Ruthanne ( a cousin maybe)

Hello List I am interested in tracing the following family -- William Paul PAGE, joiner/carpenter, b. circa 1786, possibly living in Norfolk Street, Islington, Middlesex County, England a.. his wife - I don't know her name b.. his children: George Paul PAGE, b. circa 1814, carpenter; Charles PAGE, b. circa 1819, possibly a draper; and possibly also Samuel PAGE and James PAGE, birthdates unknown. George Paul PAGE and Harriet Ann THWAITES were married at the parish church, Islington, after Banns, 18 October 1841, and the residence of both was given as Norfolk Street, Islington. On 24 January 1843, George Paul PAGE died of consumption, and Harriet Ann PAGE married Charles PAGE (George's brother) 26 November 1844 at the parish church in Islington, Middlesex County, England. Any help with this family greatly appreciated. Thank you Mary Anne Ottawa, Canada

Ron, In reference to your comment: "It is my understanding that it is certain John, Roy, and I share a common ancestor of Edmund Page, most likely within just a couple generations, such as his brother or uncle, if not him. Is this correct?" NO George is the real expert here and I hope he will correct me if I get something wrong. John D. Page, Roy H. Page, and Ron R. Page all share a common ancestor in John Page, d. Mar 1804 SC. Both by documentation and DNA exact match. The three of of us are listed under family group H. Again group H is kind of a leftovers group. The three of us have up to 5, 6, 7, or more differences in our DNA markers from the others in group H. Here is were we may need George, if I remember right the average number of generations between mutations is about 8. Using the number of mutations from us to the others in group H of lets say 5, times 8 generations, we get 40 generations (800-1300 years). So it might be safe to say some of the people in Group H might have a common ancestor in the last 40 Generations (800-1300 years). We may be more closely related to another Group than we are to the others in group H. There is another thing that is identified when you get DNA tested, the Haplo type. Many of the Page's in the DNA project share a Haplo type. This just means the Page's that share the same Haplo type, probably, had ancestors that came from the same region of the world, and may share some very ancient ancestor. Just remember Group H is not really a family Group, just a bunch of Page's that did not fit into any other family group. So I don't think we could say we share a common ancestor of Edmund Page we may share a common ancestor with Edmund Page and that may be so far back we will never be able tell. In theory we all share a common ancestor if you go back far enough. Hope this helps John D Page -----Original Message----- From: Ron Page [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 5:46 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Page, John D. (IT Solutions); 'George W. Page'; 'Ron Keene' Subject: RE: [PAGE] John Page, d. Mar 1804 The confusion is mine. I apologize. I saw the response from Barb to Ron and thought she was talking to me. My fault. I still haven't done my homework on the DNA stuff. I am not one of the researchers, just an interested member of the family, but now I see that if I am going to communicate with others without confusing things, I need to proceed more cautiously and not comment without having the facts available. It is my understanding that it is certain John, Roy, and I share a common ancestor of Edmund Page, most likely within just a couple generations, such as his brother or uncle, if not him. Is this correct? Ron -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Page, John D. (IT Solutions) Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 4:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAGE] John Page, d. Mar 1804 Hi all Tex Ron Page from OK Ron Keene George Page I got a little confused. I think this thread has two Ron's involved. Tex, Ron Page from OK is definitely in our line. He has shown how he ties into William Page and his DNA test matched mine perfectly. I think Ron Keene might have replied to one of your emails to Ron Page. One thing that Ron Page said that may have confused things is, he mentioned the ""H" line presumably from Edmund Page in the early 1600s in the area of Alverstoke, co. Hampshire, Eng". The PAGE DNA project is organized into groups of people who's DNA matches very closely. Each family group has a letter assigned. The H family group is the exception, it is made up of people that did not fit the other groups. They do show some similarities and may have some very distant common ancestor. There are now three people in the H group that match each other exactly, John D Page, Roy H. Page, and Ron R. Page. My greatuncle Roy and I decend from John Page Jr. and Ron Page decends from William Page. I am sorry I have not been more involved lately, but I had the flu and missed 2 weeks work, and have been very busy trying to catch up. Thanks John D Page -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tex Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 3:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAGE] John Page, d. Mar 1804 Hi Ron, I've checked all your names and I'm sorry.... if I said I had your father & mother's name .... I was wrong. Your Page Family line is different than mine. I did check out your line and believe your John Page definitely were in Pitt Co & Washington Co's. I found a John Page as early as 1840 in Washington Co, GA. My John Page may have come from Charlotte Co, VA and later went to Union Co, SC. He died in SC. The family went on to KY, TN and some to AL and later TX. We are just following a lead that may be our John Page's father. I'm sorry we aren't connected. I wish you loads of luck. If I can be of help to you let me know as I live in VA and can check data on NC, SC. GA & AL. Have to run for now. Babysitting my two grandchildren in an hour. Chat with you later. Barb -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Keene Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAGE] John Page, d. Mar 1804 Hello Barb, I hope your eyes have improved. I have communicated with Delores Rutherford, but have not talked with George Page. Delores has done a lot of work researching the Page family. I don't know of anything about dna testing. Didn't you say you have the Father and Mother of my John Page? If you do, please send them to me. Thanks Ron Keene [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tex Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 12:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAGE] John Page, d. Mar 1804 Hi Ron, My eyes are still giving me trouble when I try to read. Seems like it's eye strain. Therefore, I plan to take my new glasses back to Sears to see if the prescription is what it should be. If that doesn't help...then I think I'll have my own Optometrist examine my eyes to see what he feels my prescription should be vs what I have now. Have they found any cataracts on your eyes? Once you have those show up --- out come the lenses. What is this "H" line you are talking about? I was looking at the DNA for James Page b. 1807 and our John Page. I also was looking at the Fosters & Carter. If certain markers match in all those surnames does that mean that we carry the same gene? I have only one "male" left of our Page line. Now, my niece has a boy....but that wouldn't count for the male Page DNA? George W. Page seems to be a really dedicated researcher. He has traced a lot of Page lines. So has Delores Rutherford. She traced every VA Page line and followed them into other states. George usually knows what he is talking about. Well! I've tired my eyes beyond strained tonight. Think I'll put them to bed. Nite, Barb -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George W. Page Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 2:47 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Cc: 'Courtney Milburn'; 'Verlin Rogers' Subject: Re: [PAGE] John Page, d. Mar 1804 Ron, don't make the mistake of assuming you are descended from Edmund Page in the early 1600s just because he shares your same Y-DNA for the markers tested! You could be descended from a brother or uncle of his who would also share your common Y-DNA. George W. Page Page Surname Y--DNA Project Administrator -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Page Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 10:43 AM To: [email protected] Cc: 'Courtney Milburn'; 'Verlin Rogers' Subject: Re: [PAGE] John Page, d. Mar 1804 How are your eyes doing?? I was hoping to qualify for cataract surgery so I could get new lenses for my eyes and maybe quit wearing contacts, but ophthalmologist says no. What's the story on our history prior to John Page d. 1803-1804? Do we know anything other than we are part of the "H" line presumably from Edmund Page in the early 1600s in the area of Alverstoke, co. Hampshire, Eng.? Ron -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tex Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 10:12 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAGE] John Page, d. Mar 1804 Ron... Please contact me at [email protected] I am definitely connected to your line. Recently had cataract surgery and am not able to work on my genealogy yet. I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Barb (Page) Watson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John and Barb, I have a John Page married to Susan Tacker. I have no dates for them but have two children of theirs being Louisa (b. 1859 in TN - d. 1918 Pemiscot Co., AR) and Josephine (b. March 6, 1863 in TN - d. Aug. 12, 1918 in Cincinnati, OH). Of course this could not be the same John Page who died 1804. John and Susan are identified on an index card from the cemetery where Josephine was buried in Cincinnati. I have found them in the 1900 and 1910 Cincinnati, Hamilton Co. OH census. There is a Charles Goldstein, barber, married to Louisa. Josephine Harper, sister-in-law to Charles, lives in the same home and she is a seamstress. She is a widow. I can't find a match on them in other census records. Does this match anyone's information? Garry Malone Franklin, TN -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Page Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 3:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAGE] John Page, d. Mar 1804 By now you have received my longer message confirming that we are connected. As you say in your message below, "He died in SC. The family went on to KY, TN, and some to AL and later TX." We are the ones who went on to Tennessee. You do have my father's name, Roy F. Page, but not my mother's. Ron -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tex Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 2:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAGE] John Page, d. Mar 1804 Hi Ron, I've checked all your names and I'm sorry.... if I said I had your father & mother's name .... I was wrong. Your Page Family line is different than mine. I did check out your line and believe your John Page definitely were in Pitt Co & Washington Co's. I found a John Page as early as 1840 in Washington Co, GA. My John Page may have come from Charlotte Co, VA and later went to Union Co, SC. He died in SC. The family went on to KY, TN and some to AL and later TX. We are just following a lead that may be our John Page's father. I'm sorry we aren't connected. I wish you loads of luck. If I can be of help to you let me know as I live in VA and can check data on NC, SC. GA & AL. Have to run for now. Babysitting my two grandchildren in an hour. Chat with you later. Barb ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all Tex Ron Page from OK Ron Keene George Page I got a little confused. I think this thread has two Ron's involved. Tex, Ron Page from OK is definitely in our line. He has shown how he ties into William Page and his DNA test matched mine perfectly. I think Ron Keene might have replied to one of your emails to Ron Page. One thing that Ron Page said that may have confused things is, he mentioned the ""H" line presumably from Edmund Page in the early 1600s in the area of Alverstoke, co. Hampshire, Eng". The PAGE DNA project is organized into groups of people who's DNA matches very closely. Each family group has a letter assigned. The H family group is the exception, it is made up of people that did not fit the other groups. They do show some similarities and may have some very distant common ancestor. There are now three people in the H group that match each other exactly, John D Page, Roy H. Page, and Ron R. Page. My greatuncle Roy and I decend from John Page Jr. and Ron Page decends from William Page. I am sorry I have not been more involved lately, but I had the flu and missed 2 weeks work, and have been very busy trying to catch up. Thanks John D Page -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tex Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 3:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAGE] John Page, d. Mar 1804 Hi Ron, I've checked all your names and I'm sorry.... if I said I had your father & mother's name .... I was wrong. Your Page Family line is different than mine. I did check out your line and believe your John Page definitely were in Pitt Co & Washington Co's. I found a John Page as early as 1840 in Washington Co, GA. My John Page may have come from Charlotte Co, VA and later went to Union Co, SC. He died in SC. The family went on to KY, TN and some to AL and later TX. We are just following a lead that may be our John Page's father. I'm sorry we aren't connected. I wish you loads of luck. If I can be of help to you let me know as I live in VA and can check data on NC, SC. GA & AL. Have to run for now. Babysitting my two grandchildren in an hour. Chat with you later. Barb -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Keene Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAGE] John Page, d. Mar 1804 Hello Barb, I hope your eyes have improved. I have communicated with Delores Rutherford, but have not talked with George Page. Delores has done a lot of work researching the Page family. I don't know of anything about dna testing. Didn't you say you have the Father and Mother of my John Page? If you do, please send them to me. Thanks Ron Keene [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tex Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 12:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAGE] John Page, d. Mar 1804 Hi Ron, My eyes are still giving me trouble when I try to read. Seems like it's eye strain. Therefore, I plan to take my new glasses back to Sears to see if the prescription is what it should be. If that doesn't help...then I think I'll have my own Optometrist examine my eyes to see what he feels my prescription should be vs what I have now. Have they found any cataracts on your eyes? Once you have those show up --- out come the lenses. What is this "H" line you are talking about? I was looking at the DNA for James Page b. 1807 and our John Page. I also was looking at the Fosters & Carter. If certain markers match in all those surnames does that mean that we carry the same gene? I have only one "male" left of our Page line. Now, my niece has a boy....but that wouldn't count for the male Page DNA? George W. Page seems to be a really dedicated researcher. He has traced a lot of Page lines. So has Delores Rutherford. She traced every VA Page line and followed them into other states. George usually knows what he is talking about. Well! I've tired my eyes beyond strained tonight. Think I'll put them to bed. Nite, Barb -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George W. Page Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 2:47 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Cc: 'Courtney Milburn'; 'Verlin Rogers' Subject: Re: [PAGE] John Page, d. Mar 1804 Ron, don't make the mistake of assuming you are descended from Edmund Page in the early 1600s just because he shares your same Y-DNA for the markers tested! You could be descended from a brother or uncle of his who would also share your common Y-DNA. George W. Page Page Surname Y--DNA Project Administrator -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Page Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 10:43 AM To: [email protected] Cc: 'Courtney Milburn'; 'Verlin Rogers' Subject: Re: [PAGE] John Page, d. Mar 1804 How are your eyes doing?? I was hoping to qualify for cataract surgery so I could get new lenses for my eyes and maybe quit wearing contacts, but ophthalmologist says no. What's the story on our history prior to John Page d. 1803-1804? Do we know anything other than we are part of the "H" line presumably from Edmund Page in the early 1600s in the area of Alverstoke, co. Hampshire, Eng.? Ron -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tex Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 10:12 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAGE] John Page, d. Mar 1804 Ron... Please contact me at [email protected] I am definitely connected to your line. Recently had cataract surgery and am not able to work on my genealogy yet. I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Barb (Page) Watson

The confusion is mine. I apologize. I saw the response from Barb to Ron and thought she was talking to me. My fault. I still haven't done my homework on the DNA stuff. I am not one of the researchers, just an interested member of the family, but now I see that if I am going to communicate with others without confusing things, I need to proceed more cautiously and not comment without having the facts available. It is my understanding that it is certain John, Roy, and I share a common ancestor of Edmund Page, most likely within just a couple generations, such as his brother or uncle, if not him. Is this correct? Ron -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Page, John D. (IT Solutions) Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 4:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAGE] John Page, d. Mar 1804 Hi all Tex Ron Page from OK Ron Keene George Page I got a little confused. I think this thread has two Ron's involved. Tex, Ron Page from OK is definitely in our line. He has shown how he ties into William Page and his DNA test matched mine perfectly. I think Ron Keene might have replied to one of your emails to Ron Page. One thing that Ron Page said that may have confused things is, he mentioned the ""H" line presumably from Edmund Page in the early 1600s in the area of Alverstoke, co. Hampshire, Eng". The PAGE DNA project is organized into groups of people who's DNA matches very closely. Each family group has a letter assigned. The H family group is the exception, it is made up of people that did not fit the other groups. They do show some similarities and may have some very distant common ancestor. There are now three people in the H group that match each other exactly, John D Page, Roy H. Page, and Ron R. Page. My greatuncle Roy and I decend from John Page Jr. and Ron Page decends from William Page. I am sorry I have not been more involved lately, but I had the flu and missed 2 weeks work, and have been very busy trying to catch up. Thanks John D Page -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tex Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 3:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAGE] John Page, d. Mar 1804 Hi Ron, I've checked all your names and I'm sorry.... if I said I had your father & mother's name .... I was wrong. Your Page Family line is different than mine. I did check out your line and believe your John Page definitely were in Pitt Co & Washington Co's. I found a John Page as early as 1840 in Washington Co, GA. My John Page may have come from Charlotte Co, VA and later went to Union Co, SC. He died in SC. The family went on to KY, TN and some to AL and later TX. We are just following a lead that may be our John Page's father. I'm sorry we aren't connected. I wish you loads of luck. If I can be of help to you let me know as I live in VA and can check data on NC, SC. GA & AL. Have to run for now. Babysitting my two grandchildren in an hour. Chat with you later. Barb -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Keene Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAGE] John Page, d. Mar 1804 Hello Barb, I hope your eyes have improved. I have communicated with Delores Rutherford, but have not talked with George Page. Delores has done a lot of work researching the Page family. I don't know of anything about dna testing. Didn't you say you have the Father and Mother of my John Page? If you do, please send them to me. Thanks Ron Keene [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tex Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 12:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAGE] John Page, d. Mar 1804 Hi Ron, My eyes are still giving me trouble when I try to read. Seems like it's eye strain. Therefore, I plan to take my new glasses back to Sears to see if the prescription is what it should be. If that doesn't help...then I think I'll have my own Optometrist examine my eyes to see what he feels my prescription should be vs what I have now. Have they found any cataracts on your eyes? Once you have those show up --- out come the lenses. What is this "H" line you are talking about? I was looking at the DNA for James Page b. 1807 and our John Page. I also was looking at the Fosters & Carter. If certain markers match in all those surnames does that mean that we carry the same gene? I have only one "male" left of our Page line. Now, my niece has a boy....but that wouldn't count for the male Page DNA? George W. Page seems to be a really dedicated researcher. He has traced a lot of Page lines. So has Delores Rutherford. She traced every VA Page line and followed them into other states. George usually knows what he is talking about. Well! I've tired my eyes beyond strained tonight. Think I'll put them to bed. Nite, Barb -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George W. Page Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 2:47 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Cc: 'Courtney Milburn'; 'Verlin Rogers' Subject: Re: [PAGE] John Page, d. Mar 1804 Ron, don't make the mistake of assuming you are descended from Edmund Page in the early 1600s just because he shares your same Y-DNA for the markers tested! You could be descended from a brother or uncle of his who would also share your common Y-DNA. George W. Page Page Surname Y--DNA Project Administrator -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Page Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 10:43 AM To: [email protected] Cc: 'Courtney Milburn'; 'Verlin Rogers' Subject: Re: [PAGE] John Page, d. Mar 1804 How are your eyes doing?? I was hoping to qualify for cataract surgery so I could get new lenses for my eyes and maybe quit wearing contacts, but ophthalmologist says no. What's the story on our history prior to John Page d. 1803-1804? Do we know anything other than we are part of the "H" line presumably from Edmund Page in the early 1600s in the area of Alverstoke, co. Hampshire, Eng.? Ron -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tex Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 10:12 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAGE] John Page, d. Mar 1804 Ron... Please contact me at [email protected] I am definitely connected to your line. Recently had cataract surgery and am not able to work on my genealogy yet. I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Barb (Page) Watson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

By now you have received my longer message confirming that we are connected. As you say in your message below, "He died in SC. The family went on to KY, TN, and some to AL and later TX." We are the ones who went on to Tennessee. You do have my father's name, Roy F. Page, but not my mother's. Ron -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tex Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 2:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAGE] John Page, d. Mar 1804 Hi Ron, I've checked all your names and I'm sorry.... if I said I had your father & mother's name .... I was wrong. Your Page Family line is different than mine. I did check out your line and believe your John Page definitely were in Pitt Co & Washington Co's. I found a John Page as early as 1840 in Washington Co, GA. My John Page may have come from Charlotte Co, VA and later went to Union Co, SC. He died in SC. The family went on to KY, TN and some to AL and later TX. We are just following a lead that may be our John Page's father. I'm sorry we aren't connected. I wish you loads of luck. If I can be of help to you let me know as I live in VA and can check data on NC, SC. GA & AL. Have to run for now. Babysitting my two grandchildren in an hour. Chat with you later. Barb ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We are definitely from the same line. We are both from John d. 1804, us through his son William, and you through his son John - right???? Our research shows this to be our relationship, and the DNA testing confirmed it. I think we are both seeking more information about John d. 1804. DNA testing suggests who we are related to in the early 1600's so we need to close in the gap between about 1630 and 1750. We agree with you that our John Page was from Virginia but lived in Laurens County, SC in 1800, and believe he died in 1803 in Newberry County. My family is right there at the top of Page 2 of the chart you sent me. My father, Roy is one of eight children of Charles (your chart shows only seven). You have information on my uncles Harvey and Arzie, but nothing on the other six children. Our research shows this to be our relationship, and the DNA testing confirmed it. All of the information in our chart will allow you to add to your chart a tremendous amount of information on the William branch and your chart will allow us to add all your information to ours. Our chart duplicates everything on the first few pages of your chart and then expands greatly on our branch, which is the ancestors of William, shown right up at the top of your very first page. I suspect our branch may have lost contact with your branch when William, son of John d. 1804, moved to Humphrey's County Tennessee. Here is a copy from the second page of the chart you sent me. Charles F. Page was my grandfather, with whom I spent hundreds of hours playing checkers in his last years. Your chart shows only 7 of Charles's 8 children. The oldest was a daughter, Icy. My father was Roy F. Page. His children are me and my older sister Jeanette Joyce Page Brake. I was born in 1940 and Joyce in 1936. I communicate with the sons and daughters of all eight children on a regular basis. I send and receive e-mail from Radie's granddaughter, Armal's daughter and Icy's son at least once per week. Harvey's son Wayne, operates my farm in Illinois, so I talk to him a lot. Arzie's oldest son, Voris was my best buddy in my early high school years. 2 .............................................. 5 Thomas James Page 1878 - 1960 b: 1878 d: 1960 .............................................. 5 Charles F. Page 1881 - b: March 1881 in Missouri .................................................... +Aslee S. 1882 - b: 1882 in Missouri .......................................................... 6 Virgil C. Page 1910 - b: 1910 in Missouri .......................................................... 6 Myrtle Page 1911 - b: 1911 in Missouri .......................................................... 6 Roy F. Page 1913 - b: 1913 in Missouri .......................................................... 6 Harvey William Page 1914 - 1993 b: March 1914 in Wayne Co, Missouri d: December 01, 1993 in New Rochelle, ................................................................ +Amy Louise Paynter 1920 - b: December 24, 1920 ...................................................................... 7 Gary Lucian Page 1943 - b: August 21, 1943 ...................................................................... 7 Wayne Byron Page 1945 - b: November 12, 1945 ...................................................................... 7 Richard Charles Page 1948 - b: April 24, 1948 .......................................................... 6 Arza (Arzie) Page 1915 - 1993 b: November 20, 1915 in Wayne Co, Missouri d: December 28, 1993 in New Rochelle, ................................................................ +Mary Fair ...................................................................... 7 Voris Duane Page 1938 - b: January 24, 1938 in Wayne Co, Missouri ...................................................................... 7 Dwight Brian Page 1948 - b: June 23, 1948 in Wayne Co, Missouri .......................................................... 6 Amal Z. Page 1920 - b: 1920 in Missouri .......................................................... 6 Radie E. Page 1923 - b: 1923 in Missouri On page 1 of your chart is Ada Page, born 1901. She just died three years ago at the age of 102. I talked to her a couple times in the last three years of her life and she had a memory like an elephant. As I believe I pointed out earlier, our town in Illinois is Rochelle, not New Rochelle, as shown on your chart. Ron -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tex Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 2:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAGE] John Page, d. Mar 1804 Hi Ron, I've checked all your names and I'm sorry.... if I said I had your father & mother's name .... I was wrong. Your Page Family line is different than mine. I did check out your line and believe your John Page definitely were in Pitt Co & Washington Co's. I found a John Page as early as 1840 in Washington Co, GA. My John Page may have come from Charlotte Co, VA and later went to Union Co, SC. He died in SC. The family went on to KY, TN and some to AL and later TX. We are just following a lead that may be our John Page's father. I'm sorry we aren't connected. I wish you loads of luck. If I can be of help to you let me know as I live in VA and can check data on NC, SC. GA & AL. Have to run for now. Babysitting my two grandchildren in an hour. Chat with you later. Barb ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Barb, Thanks for your efforts. The willingness of people to help others is one of the great things about genealogy. Everyone I have been in contact with has been very helpful. Enjoy your Grandkids, they will be grown soon. Thanks Ron Keene [email protected] Tex <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Ron, I've checked all your names and I'm sorry.... if I said I had your father & mother's name .... I was wrong. Your Page Family line is different than mine. I did check out your line and believe your John Page definitely were in Pitt Co & Washington Co's. I found a John Page as early as 1840 in Washington Co, GA. My John Page may have come from Charlotte Co, VA and later went to Union Co, SC. He died in SC. The family went on to KY, TN and some to AL and later TX. We are just following a lead that may be our John Page's father. I'm sorry we aren't connected. I wish you loads of luck. If I can be of help to you let me know as I live in VA and can check data on NC, SC. GA & AL. Have to run for now. Babysitting my two grandchildren in an hour. Chat with you later. Barb ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.

Hi Ron, I've checked all your names and I'm sorry.... if I said I had your father & mother's name .... I was wrong. Your Page Family line is different than mine. I did check out your line and believe your John Page definitely were in Pitt Co & Washington Co's. I found a John Page as early as 1840 in Washington Co, GA. My John Page may have come from Charlotte Co, VA and later went to Union Co, SC. He died in SC. The family went on to KY, TN and some to AL and later TX. We are just following a lead that may be our John Page's father. I'm sorry we aren't connected. I wish you loads of luck. If I can be of help to you let me know as I live in VA and can check data on NC, SC. GA & AL. Have to run for now. Babysitting my two grandchildren in an hour. Chat with you later. Barb