Amazing isn't it, that even in "early days" our ancestors moved about so much - almost like they were trying to throw future genealogists off the track? Who would think a Page in Danville, Illinois in 1869 would have been born in Canada when there were other Pages in the same area who were from other lines? Ron Page -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bob Telerski Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 11:12 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [PAGE] Canadian Page families It has been some time since I last posted my Jacob O. Page. Census has him born in Canada abt. 1823 .In the margin of the census--Toronto was written in. We believe the O. middle name was Oliver because his son was named Oliver Jacob. By 1860 he was found in Vermillion Co IL where he married a widow named Caroline Long Overholser. He is next found working as a machinist in Danville Il. where he died in 1869. His son stated that his father served in the Civil War from IL. but no record has been found. Any help is appreciated. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

And thank you for your response. Ron -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George W. Page Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 1:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAGE] Y-DNA Tests and the Page Surname Y-DNA Project Thank you Ron for the kind words. I'm delighted to learn that you are reaping the rewards of participated in the Page Surname Y-DNA Project that I administer on an unpaid, volunteer basis for FTDNA just to learn more about the 15 or so Page Family Lines and the 100+ male PAGEs that we have identified so far. We have several members who no longer have a Page last name IF they ever did! A few of them acquired different surnames as a result of being adopted. Y-DNA testing has helped them find there long lost, or previously unknown, Page roots. As far as paternal irregularities and indiscretions of a distant grandmother are concerned, it is often impossible to determine when that event took place or who they were, or even in which generation; which is probably just as well. George W. Page PAGE Surname Y-DNA Project Administrator ______________ At 07:04 AM 4/21/2008, you wrote: >George, this project has been extremely helpful to those who are >researching my Page line as well as to me personally. I grew up in >northern Illinois but ended up living in Oklahoma for the past 40 years >thanks to a transfer from my corporate employer. There are many Pages >here but none I questioned could tell me any more than their ancestors >were always from Texas, as if they had lived there as long as the >Spanish-speaking people. I had to assume that any relationship I have with them must be very distant. > >Only after the DNA testing, have I discovered hundreds of "lost" >cousins living out here in Oklahoma and Texas right around me. In the >1805-1810 timeframe, my ancestor, William Page, moved to Tennessee >while his siblings moved elsewhere. My first cousins have a well >documented genealogy of my line as far back as William, and the Texas >Pages have a well documented history going back to William's brother >John Jr. But we were unaware of each other until I submitted DNA and >found a perfect 37 marker match with members of the Texas line. > >Now, for the first time, we are exchanging family history information >and filling in a lot of blanks. Add to that, we now have a more focused >effort to learn more about John Sr., the father of our William and the Texas Pages' >John Jr. > >Although I am not one of the researchers and must refer to documents >for names and dates, I no longer feel like an outsider down here in >Oklahoma now that I know I among relatives with whom I can share pride >in our family name. > >In addition, I have had numerous e-mail exchanges with a perfect 37 >marker match who does not share the Page name. I am awaiting the >results of my 67 marker test to see if we match at that level. This is >a mystery that has provided us the fun of much speculation. Did a Page >change his name? Did a Page father a child that did not take the Page >name? We do know his ancestors and mine spent time in the same region of the U.S. > >Well, as you can see, the DNA project is exciting enough to me that I >am taking valuable time from my work day to talk about it. > >George, thank you, thank you, thank you, for all your work and >willingness to put up with stupid questions from people like me who >aren't actually doing any research, but enjoy sitting on the sidelines >and only occasionally trying to help out here and there. > >Ronald R. "Ron" Page > >Son of Roy, Wayne County, Mo. >Grandson of Charles, Wayne County, Mo. >Great grandson of David, Wayne County, Mo. >Great great grandson of James, Humphreys County Tennessee Ggg grandson >of William of South Carolina and Humphreys County, Tennessee Gggg >grandson of John Page - Virginia and South Carolina > > Living among many descendants of William's brother John Jr. and >didn't even know it. > >Ron > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >Behalf Of George W. Page >Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 1:02 PM >To: Robert Page; [email protected] >Subject: Re: [PAGE] Y-DNA Tests and the Page Surname Y-DNA Project > >Thanks for your help and support, Robert. > >Any help convincing untested PAGE males to order a Y-DNA test kit and >do the painless swabbing of the insides of the cheeks before sending >their Y-DNA samples to a qualified DNA lab would be appreciated. The >testing of close relatives of those who have already been tested would >NOT be beneficial and would be a waste of money. > >I am seeking a volunteer to help me design and post a Page Y-DNA web >site where we can make the Page Surname Y-DNA Project test results >available to the public but still preserve the identity of the participants. > >GWP >At 08:37 PM 4/18/2008, you wrote: > >George....great message. Would like to support you. What can I do, > >maybe >a > >seperate message to who??? maybe Rootsweb.com supporting you. I owe a > >lot to you for your support and I think many do not understand what > >you have done in growing our knowledge of the various PAGE lines. > >Give me some hint of what I can do. Thanks for your many years of > >helping us dumb ones to understand. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "George W. Page" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 1:25 AM > >Subject: [PAGE] Y-DNA Tests and the Page Surname Y-DNA Project > > > > > > > More and more male PAGEs are getting their Y-DNA tested cheaply by > > > one of several firms, including: > > > RELATIVE GENETICS, DNAHERITAGE, ANCESTRY, OXFORD ANCESTORS, > > > GENEBASE, and FAMILY TREE DNA (FTDNA) > > > > > > Unfortunately not all firms test the same DYS markers or score the > > > test results in the same manner so that comparing Y-DNA test > > > results of different people tested by different companies is like > > > comparing "apples to oranges!" > > > > > > I have since 1992 served as the non-paid, volunteer administrator > > > of the PAGE Surname Project of Family Tree DNA (FTDNA). > > > > > > The purpose of this Page Y-DNA Surname Project is as follows: > > > > > > Website Description: > > > "The purpose of this PAGE Family Y-Chromosome DNA Group is to > > > identify the various PAGE lines and help members of the group of > > > PAGE males (or their proxie) find their immigrant PAGE family line > > > origins, ancestors, and living cousins. The PAGE group was started > > > in early 2002 using Oxford Ancestry and FTDNA test results of over > > > one hundred male PAGEs & PAIGEs to establish and verify > > > 'Fingerprint Y-DNA Markers' for about 15 different PAGE immigrant > > > lines to America. We also encourage and welcome male PAGEs who > > > live in Canada, the UK, and countries 'Down Under.' > > > > > > "I am the PAGE Group Administrator for PAGE/PAIGE tests and will > > > analysis your test data based upon the known paper trails of your > > > PAGE ancestry and my knowledge gained since 1977 of 15 or so Page > > > Family lines and their origins. Your PAGE test results and > > > analysis will be shared only with you and the other tested male > > > PAGEs (or their proxie) in order to help you and them locate > > > cousins previously unknown. > > > > > > "A Surname Project traces members of a family that share a common > > > surname. Since surnames are passed down from father to son like > > > the Y-chromosome, this test is for males taking a Y-DNA test. > > > Females do not carry their father's Y-DNA and acquire a new > > > surname by way of marriage, so the tested individual must be a > > > male that wants to check his direct paternal line (father's > > > father's father's...) with a Y-DNA12, Y-DNA37, or Y-DNA67 marker > > > test. Females who would like to check their direct paternal line > > > can have a male relative with this surname order a Y-DNA test." > > > > > > "New members are encouraged to order and take FTDNA's Y-DNA Plus > > > test kit with at least 25 Markers (not 12).... > > > Members Tested to date: 107 > > > ________ > > > > > > BENEFITS OF TESTING WITH FAMILY TREE DNA Other than the cost of > > > the test, all the following services are provided FOR FREE; You > > > will be part of the PAGE Surname Y-DNA Project that I administer > > > and benefit from my extensive knowledge of PAGE Family histories; > > > You will be included in the largest Y-DNA database in the world, > > > and the most extensive database of tested male PAGEs (107); You > > > have total control over whether you compare your results only > > > within the Page Y-DNA project or against the entire database; The > > > names and email addresses of your genetic Y-DNA matches are > > > provided so that you may contact them; Personal phone and e-mail > > > support by qualified personnel. Both the phones and email messages > > > are answered by a human being and not by an automated response > > > system; Family Tree DNA is the only service which has a > > > calculator, created by their population geneticist, that gives you > > > the likelihood of sharing a common ancestor with your genetic > > > match within a certain time frame Family Tree DNA allows you to > > > join, leave, and be part of multiple Projects at the same time, > > > without any additional testing or cost; As the Project > > > Administrator I will compare the male PAGE's Y-DNA test results > > > with about 15 identified Page Family Lines so far identified; As > > > over 100 tested males are already in our database, your result > > > will be matched against them and in case of a match you will be > > > notified by e-mail; Family Tree DNA allows you continued access to > > > your account, projects, and matches without additional testing, > > > cost or subscription fees; Family Tree DNA is the only company > > > that stores your DNA for 25 years allowing you to order additional > > > tests using the original sample Family Tree DNA is the only > > > company to offer the SNP Assurance > > > Program: if no backbone haplogroup can be estimated with 100% > > > certainty, FTDNA will SNP test your sample for free > > > > > > Please contact me if you are a male Page, or have a male Page > > > relative, and are interested in getting Y-DNA tested and > > > participating in this PAGE Surname Y-DNA Project. You can also > > > contact me even if you have Y-DNA test results from any of the > > > firms listed to see if your test results can be added to this project. > > > > > > George W. Page > > > PAGE Surname Y-DNA Project Administrator > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

George, I agree *SHE* cannot be Y-DNA tested, but with the surname Page, I am "assuming" she would have a male member that is living, that is born with the Page surname. I might be making a false assumption. Brenda -----Original Message----- From: George W. Page [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 2:40 PM To: Brenda Hare; [email protected] Subject: RE: [PAGE] Archelaus Page She cannot be Y-DNA tested because she does NOT carry the Page Y-Chromosome. If she has a living male PAGE relative she can encourage him to order the test kit, or even order and pay for it herself. GWP _______ At 09:10 AM 4/21/2008, Brenda Hare wrote: >Anna, > >I have a hunch that your Page line is part of my Page family. I have no >documentation that tells me that -- it's just a hunch that I have. I would >think it would certainly be worth your time to have your Page DNA tested. > >Likewise, for any serious Page researcher, I would think it would be worth >your time to have your Page DNA tested. It is a simple test, done simply >with a mouth swab. > >Brenda Page Hare > >-----Original Message----- >From: Brenda Hare [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 9:42 AM >To: '[email protected]' >Cc: George W. Page >Subject: RE: [PAGE] Archelaus Page > >Anna, > >I would think it would certainly be worth your time to have someone in your >family DNA tested. I would highly recommend your contacting George W. Page >([email protected]) and requesting to have a DNA testing kit sent to you or >one of your family members. The test results might help tie you into one of >the Page lines that have already been DNA tested. Oftentimes, that is a >good hint, then where to start researching. > >Brenda Page Hare > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >Of Anna Hutton-Page >Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 7:48 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [PAGE] Archelaus Page > > >Still have no information on the parents of Archelaus, woundering if his >father could have been named John, this tends to be a popular name in the >generations following Archelaus. I have had no one inform me they are from >this line and have participated in the Page DNA testing, but as we know that >could change at any time.

Thank you Ron for the kind words. I'm delighted to learn that you are reaping the rewards of participated in the Page Surname Y-DNA Project that I administer on an unpaid, volunteer basis for FTDNA just to learn more about the 15 or so Page Family Lines and the 100+ male PAGEs that we have identified so far. We have several members who no longer have a Page last name IF they ever did! A few of them acquired different surnames as a result of being adopted. Y-DNA testing has helped them find there long lost, or previously unknown, Page roots. As far as paternal irregularities and indiscretions of a distant grandmother are concerned, it is often impossible to determine when that event took place or who they were, or even in which generation; which is probably just as well. George W. Page PAGE Surname Y-DNA Project Administrator ______________ At 07:04 AM 4/21/2008, you wrote: >George, this project has been extremely helpful to those who are researching >my Page line as well as to me personally. I grew up in northern Illinois but >ended up living in Oklahoma for the past 40 years thanks to a transfer from >my corporate employer. There are many Pages here but none I questioned could >tell me any more than their ancestors were always from Texas, as if they had >lived there as long as the Spanish-speaking people. I had to assume that any >relationship I have with them must be very distant. > >Only after the DNA testing, have I discovered hundreds of "lost" cousins >living out here in Oklahoma and Texas right around me. In the 1805-1810 >timeframe, my ancestor, William Page, moved to Tennessee while his siblings >moved elsewhere. My first cousins have a well documented genealogy of my >line as far back as William, and the Texas Pages have a well documented >history going back to William's brother John Jr. But we were unaware of each >other until I submitted DNA and found a perfect 37 marker match with members >of the Texas line. > >Now, for the first time, we are exchanging family history information and >filling in a lot of blanks. Add to that, we now have a more focused effort >to learn more about John Sr., the father of our William and the Texas Pages' >John Jr. > >Although I am not one of the researchers and must refer to documents for >names and dates, I no longer feel like an outsider down here in Oklahoma now >that I know I among relatives with whom I can share pride in our family >name. > >In addition, I have had numerous e-mail exchanges with a perfect 37 marker >match who does not share the Page name. I am awaiting the results of my 67 >marker test to see if we match at that level. This is a mystery that has >provided us the fun of much speculation. Did a Page change his name? Did a >Page father a child that did not take the Page name? We do know his >ancestors and mine spent time in the same region of the U.S. > >Well, as you can see, the DNA project is exciting enough to me that I am >taking valuable time from my work day to talk about it. > >George, thank you, thank you, thank you, for all your work and willingness >to put up with stupid questions from people like me who aren't actually >doing any research, but enjoy sitting on the sidelines and only occasionally >trying to help out here and there. > >Ronald R. "Ron" Page > >Son of Roy, Wayne County, Mo. >Grandson of Charles, Wayne County, Mo. >Great grandson of David, Wayne County, Mo. >Great great grandson of James, Humphreys County Tennessee >Ggg grandson of William of South Carolina and Humphreys County, Tennessee >Gggg grandson of John Page - Virginia and South Carolina > > Living among many descendants of William's brother John Jr. and didn't even >know it. > >Ron > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >Of George W. Page >Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 1:02 PM >To: Robert Page; [email protected] >Subject: Re: [PAGE] Y-DNA Tests and the Page Surname Y-DNA Project > >Thanks for your help and support, Robert. > >Any help convincing untested PAGE males to order a Y-DNA test kit and do the >painless swabbing of the insides of the cheeks before sending their Y-DNA >samples to a qualified DNA lab would be appreciated. The testing of close >relatives of those who have already been tested would NOT be beneficial and >would be a waste of money. > >I am seeking a volunteer to help me design and post a Page Y-DNA web site >where we can make the Page Surname Y-DNA Project test results available to >the public but still preserve the identity of the participants. > >GWP >At 08:37 PM 4/18/2008, you wrote: > >George....great message. Would like to support you. What can I do, maybe >a > >seperate message to who??? maybe Rootsweb.com supporting you. I owe a > >lot to you for your support and I think many do not understand what you > >have done in growing our knowledge of the various PAGE lines. Give me > >some hint of what I can do. Thanks for your many years of helping us > >dumb ones to understand. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "George W. Page" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 1:25 AM > >Subject: [PAGE] Y-DNA Tests and the Page Surname Y-DNA Project > > > > > > > More and more male PAGEs are getting their Y-DNA tested cheaply by > > > one of several firms, including: > > > RELATIVE GENETICS, DNAHERITAGE, ANCESTRY, OXFORD ANCESTORS, > > > GENEBASE, and FAMILY TREE DNA (FTDNA) > > > > > > Unfortunately not all firms test the same DYS markers or score the > > > test results in the same manner so that comparing Y-DNA test results > > > of different people tested by different companies is like comparing > > > "apples to oranges!" > > > > > > I have since 1992 served as the non-paid, volunteer administrator of > > > the PAGE Surname Project of Family Tree DNA (FTDNA). > > > > > > The purpose of this Page Y-DNA Surname Project is as follows: > > > > > > Website Description: > > > "The purpose of this PAGE Family Y-Chromosome DNA Group is to > > > identify the various PAGE lines and help members of the group of > > > PAGE males (or their proxie) find their immigrant PAGE family line > > > origins, ancestors, and living cousins. The PAGE group was started > > > in early 2002 using Oxford Ancestry and FTDNA test results of over > > > one hundred male PAGEs & PAIGEs to establish and verify 'Fingerprint > > > Y-DNA Markers' for about 15 different PAGE immigrant lines to > > > America. We also encourage and welcome male PAGEs who live in > > > Canada, the UK, and countries 'Down Under.' > > > > > > "I am the PAGE Group Administrator for PAGE/PAIGE tests and will > > > analysis your test data based upon the known paper trails of your > > > PAGE ancestry and my knowledge gained since 1977 of 15 or so Page > > > Family lines and their origins. Your PAGE test results and analysis > > > will be shared only with you and the other tested male PAGEs (or > > > their proxie) in order to help you and them locate cousins > > > previously unknown. > > > > > > "A Surname Project traces members of a family that share a common > > > surname. Since surnames are passed down from father to son like the > > > Y-chromosome, this test is for males taking a Y-DNA test. Females do > > > not carry their father's Y-DNA and acquire a new surname by way of > > > marriage, so the tested individual must be a male that wants to > > > check his direct paternal line (father's father's father's...) with > > > a Y-DNA12, Y-DNA37, or Y-DNA67 marker test. Females who would like > > > to check their direct paternal line can have a male relative with > > > this surname order a Y-DNA test." > > > > > > "New members are encouraged to order and take FTDNA's Y-DNA Plus > > > test kit with at least 25 Markers (not 12).... > > > Members Tested to date: 107 > > > ________ > > > > > > BENEFITS OF TESTING WITH FAMILY TREE DNA Other than the cost of the > > > test, all the following services are provided FOR FREE; You will be > > > part of the PAGE Surname Y-DNA Project that I administer and benefit > > > from my extensive knowledge of PAGE Family histories; You will be > > > included in the largest Y-DNA database in the world, and the most > > > extensive database of tested male PAGEs (107); You have total > > > control over whether you compare your results only within the Page > > > Y-DNA project or against the entire database; The names and email > > > addresses of your genetic Y-DNA matches are provided so that you may > > > contact them; Personal phone and e-mail support by qualified > > > personnel. Both the phones and email messages are answered by a > > > human being and not by an automated response system; Family Tree DNA > > > is the only service which has a calculator, created by their > > > population geneticist, that gives you the likelihood of sharing a > > > common ancestor with your genetic match within a certain time frame > > > Family Tree DNA allows you to join, leave, and be part of multiple > > > Projects at the same time, without any additional testing or cost; > > > As the Project Administrator I will compare the male PAGE's Y-DNA > > > test results with about 15 identified Page Family Lines so far > > > identified; As over 100 tested males are already in our database, > > > your result will be matched against them and in case of a match you > > > will be notified by e-mail; Family Tree DNA allows you continued > > > access to your account, projects, and matches without additional > > > testing, cost or subscription fees; Family Tree DNA is the only > > > company that stores your DNA for 25 years allowing you to order > > > additional tests using the original sample Family Tree DNA is the > > > only company to offer the SNP Assurance > > > Program: if no backbone haplogroup can be estimated with 100% > > > certainty, FTDNA will SNP test your sample for free > > > > > > Please contact me if you are a male Page, or have a male Page > > > relative, and are interested in getting Y-DNA tested and > > > participating in this PAGE Surname Y-DNA Project. You can also > > > contact me even if you have Y-DNA test results from any of the firms > > > listed to see if your test results can be added to this project. > > > > > > George W. Page > > > PAGE Surname Y-DNA Project Administrator > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anna, I have a hunch that your Page line is part of my Page family. I have no documentation that tells me that -- it's just a hunch that I have. I would think it would certainly be worth your time to have your Page DNA tested. Likewise, for any serious Page researcher, I would think it would be worth your time to have your Page DNA tested. It is a simple test, done simply with a mouth swab. Brenda Page Hare -----Original Message----- From: Brenda Hare [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 9:42 AM To: '[email protected]' Cc: George W. Page Subject: RE: [PAGE] Archelaus Page Anna, I would think it would certainly be worth your time to have someone in your family DNA tested. I would highly recommend your contacting George W. Page ([email protected]) and requesting to have a DNA testing kit sent to you or one of your family members. The test results might help tie you into one of the Page lines that have already been DNA tested. Oftentimes, that is a good hint, then where to start researching. Brenda Page Hare -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anna Hutton-Page Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 7:48 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAGE] Archelaus Page Still have no information on the parents of Archelaus, woundering if his father could have been named John, this tends to be a popular name in the generations following Archelaus. I have had no one inform me they are from this line and have participated in the Page DNA testing, but as we know that could change at any time.

Anna, I would think it would certainly be worth your time to have someone in your family DNA tested. I would highly recommend your contacting George W. Page ([email protected]) and requesting to have a DNA testing kit sent to you or one of your family members. The test results might help tie you into one of the Page lines that have already been DNA tested. Oftentimes, that is a good hint, then where to start researching. Brenda Page Hare -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anna Hutton-Page Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 7:48 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAGE] Archelaus Page Still have no information on the parents of Archelaus, woundering if his father could have been named John, this tends to be a popular name in the generations following Archelaus. I have had no one inform me they are from this line and have participated in the Page DNA testing, but as we know that could change at any time.

Ruthanne, Brenda's Page relative is shown with you in Family Line E as Kit #1313. We do not believe that her relative is descended from John & Phoebe (Payne) Page directly, as is your Peter Page; but, instead from a relative of John's (father or uncle). George W. Page PAGE Surname Y-DNA Project Administrator At 12:48 AM 4/21/2008, Ruthanne Page wrote: >Hi Anna and Brenda in the Page Surname Group: >I have a database for early Canadian PAGE names which has one Archelaus >Page who was married to Margaret Peggy Mack. There was a 1994 query in >the Bay of Quinte OGS magazine about this couple in Prince Edward >County. There is a contact name and a small descendancy chart with >about a dozen names. If this is any help to you I will send that >information to you off line. >Relatives of mine were in Prince Edward county, Ontario but they are >mostly accounted for and I do not know this family at all. I am in >Family Group E in the DNA grouping. Has any male in your family done >the DNA test? Maybe we are cousins. > >This sounds like a case of maybe another earlier marriage in the family >or something you don't know about the man BEFORE the history you DO >know. I would be very intrigued to know of a connection. Best wishes >to all. >Ruthanne Page > > > > > Does any one know anything about the parents of one Archelaus > Page born date > > not certain sometime between 1800-1810 maybe in St Lawrence Co > New York (not > > certain) he married one Eurana Holmes there in 1825 and moved soon after > > settling finally in Livingston Co Illinois where he died in 1867with many > > children. > > > > Thanks Anna Page > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

George, this project has been extremely helpful to those who are researching my Page line as well as to me personally. I grew up in northern Illinois but ended up living in Oklahoma for the past 40 years thanks to a transfer from my corporate employer. There are many Pages here but none I questioned could tell me any more than their ancestors were always from Texas, as if they had lived there as long as the Spanish-speaking people. I had to assume that any relationship I have with them must be very distant. Only after the DNA testing, have I discovered hundreds of "lost" cousins living out here in Oklahoma and Texas right around me. In the 1805-1810 timeframe, my ancestor, William Page, moved to Tennessee while his siblings moved elsewhere. My first cousins have a well documented genealogy of my line as far back as William, and the Texas Pages have a well documented history going back to William's brother John Jr. But we were unaware of each other until I submitted DNA and found a perfect 37 marker match with members of the Texas line. Now, for the first time, we are exchanging family history information and filling in a lot of blanks. Add to that, we now have a more focused effort to learn more about John Sr., the father of our William and the Texas Pages' John Jr. Although I am not one of the researchers and must refer to documents for names and dates, I no longer feel like an outsider down here in Oklahoma now that I know I among relatives with whom I can share pride in our family name. In addition, I have had numerous e-mail exchanges with a perfect 37 marker match who does not share the Page name. I am awaiting the results of my 67 marker test to see if we match at that level. This is a mystery that has provided us the fun of much speculation. Did a Page change his name? Did a Page father a child that did not take the Page name? We do know his ancestors and mine spent time in the same region of the U.S. Well, as you can see, the DNA project is exciting enough to me that I am taking valuable time from my work day to talk about it. George, thank you, thank you, thank you, for all your work and willingness to put up with stupid questions from people like me who aren't actually doing any research, but enjoy sitting on the sidelines and only occasionally trying to help out here and there. Ronald R. "Ron" Page Son of Roy, Wayne County, Mo. Grandson of Charles, Wayne County, Mo. Great grandson of David, Wayne County, Mo. Great great grandson of James, Humphreys County Tennessee Ggg grandson of William of South Carolina and Humphreys County, Tennessee Gggg grandson of John Page - Virginia and South Carolina Living among many descendants of William's brother John Jr. and didn't even know it. Ron -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George W. Page Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 1:02 PM To: Robert Page; [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAGE] Y-DNA Tests and the Page Surname Y-DNA Project Thanks for your help and support, Robert. Any help convincing untested PAGE males to order a Y-DNA test kit and do the painless swabbing of the insides of the cheeks before sending their Y-DNA samples to a qualified DNA lab would be appreciated. The testing of close relatives of those who have already been tested would NOT be beneficial and would be a waste of money. I am seeking a volunteer to help me design and post a Page Y-DNA web site where we can make the Page Surname Y-DNA Project test results available to the public but still preserve the identity of the participants. GWP At 08:37 PM 4/18/2008, you wrote: >George....great message. Would like to support you. What can I do, maybe a >seperate message to who??? maybe Rootsweb.com supporting you. I owe a >lot to you for your support and I think many do not understand what you >have done in growing our knowledge of the various PAGE lines. Give me >some hint of what I can do. Thanks for your many years of helping us >dumb ones to understand. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "George W. Page" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 1:25 AM >Subject: [PAGE] Y-DNA Tests and the Page Surname Y-DNA Project > > > > More and more male PAGEs are getting their Y-DNA tested cheaply by > > one of several firms, including: > > RELATIVE GENETICS, DNAHERITAGE, ANCESTRY, OXFORD ANCESTORS, > > GENEBASE, and FAMILY TREE DNA (FTDNA) > > > > Unfortunately not all firms test the same DYS markers or score the > > test results in the same manner so that comparing Y-DNA test results > > of different people tested by different companies is like comparing > > "apples to oranges!" > > > > I have since 1992 served as the non-paid, volunteer administrator of > > the PAGE Surname Project of Family Tree DNA (FTDNA). > > > > The purpose of this Page Y-DNA Surname Project is as follows: > > > > Website Description: > > "The purpose of this PAGE Family Y-Chromosome DNA Group is to > > identify the various PAGE lines and help members of the group of > > PAGE males (or their proxie) find their immigrant PAGE family line > > origins, ancestors, and living cousins. The PAGE group was started > > in early 2002 using Oxford Ancestry and FTDNA test results of over > > one hundred male PAGEs & PAIGEs to establish and verify 'Fingerprint > > Y-DNA Markers' for about 15 different PAGE immigrant lines to > > America. We also encourage and welcome male PAGEs who live in > > Canada, the UK, and countries 'Down Under.' > > > > "I am the PAGE Group Administrator for PAGE/PAIGE tests and will > > analysis your test data based upon the known paper trails of your > > PAGE ancestry and my knowledge gained since 1977 of 15 or so Page > > Family lines and their origins. Your PAGE test results and analysis > > will be shared only with you and the other tested male PAGEs (or > > their proxie) in order to help you and them locate cousins > > previously unknown. > > > > "A Surname Project traces members of a family that share a common > > surname. Since surnames are passed down from father to son like the > > Y-chromosome, this test is for males taking a Y-DNA test. Females do > > not carry their father's Y-DNA and acquire a new surname by way of > > marriage, so the tested individual must be a male that wants to > > check his direct paternal line (father's father's father's...) with > > a Y-DNA12, Y-DNA37, or Y-DNA67 marker test. Females who would like > > to check their direct paternal line can have a male relative with > > this surname order a Y-DNA test." > > > > "New members are encouraged to order and take FTDNA's Y-DNA Plus > > test kit with at least 25 Markers (not 12).... > > Members Tested to date: 107 > > ________ > > > > BENEFITS OF TESTING WITH FAMILY TREE DNA Other than the cost of the > > test, all the following services are provided FOR FREE; You will be > > part of the PAGE Surname Y-DNA Project that I administer and benefit > > from my extensive knowledge of PAGE Family histories; You will be > > included in the largest Y-DNA database in the world, and the most > > extensive database of tested male PAGEs (107); You have total > > control over whether you compare your results only within the Page > > Y-DNA project or against the entire database; The names and email > > addresses of your genetic Y-DNA matches are provided so that you may > > contact them; Personal phone and e-mail support by qualified > > personnel. Both the phones and email messages are answered by a > > human being and not by an automated response system; Family Tree DNA > > is the only service which has a calculator, created by their > > population geneticist, that gives you the likelihood of sharing a > > common ancestor with your genetic match within a certain time frame > > Family Tree DNA allows you to join, leave, and be part of multiple > > Projects at the same time, without any additional testing or cost; > > As the Project Administrator I will compare the male PAGE's Y-DNA > > test results with about 15 identified Page Family Lines so far > > identified; As over 100 tested males are already in our database, > > your result will be matched against them and in case of a match you > > will be notified by e-mail; Family Tree DNA allows you continued > > access to your account, projects, and matches without additional > > testing, cost or subscription fees; Family Tree DNA is the only > > company that stores your DNA for 25 years allowing you to order > > additional tests using the original sample Family Tree DNA is the > > only company to offer the SNP Assurance > > Program: if no backbone haplogroup can be estimated with 100% > > certainty, FTDNA will SNP test your sample for free > > > > Please contact me if you are a male Page, or have a male Page > > relative, and are interested in getting Y-DNA tested and > > participating in this PAGE Surname Y-DNA Project. You can also > > contact me even if you have Y-DNA test results from any of the firms > > listed to see if your test results can be added to this project. > > > > George W. Page > > PAGE Surname Y-DNA Project Administrator > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Still have no information on the parents of Archelaus, woundering if his father could have been named John, this tends to be a popular name in the generations following Archelaus. I have had no one inform me they are from this line and have participated in the Page DNA testing, but as we know that could change at any time. Anna Page> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:29:42 -0500> Subject: Re: [PAGE] Archelaus Page> > Anna,> > Did you receive any response to your query? I am wondering if you have had> any family members that have participated in the Page DNA testing?> > Brenda Page Hare> > -----Original Message-----> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf> Of Anna Hutton-Page> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 10:59 AM> To: [email protected]> Subject: [PAGE] Archelaus Page> > > > > Hope this works> > > > Does any one know anything about the parents of one Archelaus Page born date> not certain sometime between 1800-1810 maybe in St Lawrence Co New York (not> certain) he married one Eurana Holmes there in 1825 and moved soon after> settling finally in Livingston Co Illinois where he died in 1867with many> children.> > Thanks Anna Page> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in> the subject and the body of the message> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Anna and Brenda in the Page Surname Group: I have a database for early Canadian PAGE names which has one Archelaus Page who was married to Margaret Peggy Mack. There was a 1994 query in the Bay of Quinte OGS magazine about this couple in Prince Edward County. There is a contact name and a small descendancy chart with about a dozen names. If this is any help to you I will send that information to you off line. Relatives of mine were in Prince Edward county, Ontario but they are mostly accounted for and I do not know this family at all. I am in Family Group E in the DNA grouping. Has any male in your family done the DNA test? Maybe we are cousins. This sounds like a case of maybe another earlier marriage in the family or something you don't know about the man BEFORE the history you DO know. I would be very intrigued to know of a connection. Best wishes to all. Ruthanne Page > Does any one know anything about the parents of one Archelaus Page born date > not certain sometime between 1800-1810 maybe in St Lawrence Co New York (not > certain) he married one Eurana Holmes there in 1825 and moved soon after > settling finally in Livingston Co Illinois where he died in 1867with many > children. > > Thanks Anna Page > >

Anna, Did you receive any response to your query? I am wondering if you have had any family members that have participated in the Page DNA testing? Brenda Page Hare -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anna Hutton-Page Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 10:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [PAGE] Archelaus Page Hope this works Does any one know anything about the parents of one Archelaus Page born date not certain sometime between 1800-1810 maybe in St Lawrence Co New York (not certain) he married one Eurana Holmes there in 1825 and moved soon after settling finally in Livingston Co Illinois where he died in 1867with many children. Thanks Anna Page ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That's wonderful news, Brenda! Thank you very much. I'll contact you directly with some suggestions. George At 08:08 AM 4/19/2008, you wrote: >George, > >I design and create webpages, and would be honored to make one for the Page >Y-DNA test results, if you would like one made. > >Brenda Page Hare > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >Of George W. Page >Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 1:02 PM >To: Robert Page; [email protected] >Subject: Re: [PAGE] Y-DNA Tests and the Page Surname Y-DNA Project > >Thanks for your help and support, Robert. > >Any help convincing untested PAGE males to order a Y-DNA test kit and >do the painless swabbing of the insides of the cheeks before sending >their Y-DNA samples to a qualified DNA lab would be appreciated. The >testing of close relatives of those who have already been tested >would NOT be beneficial and would be a waste of money. > >I am seeking a volunteer to help me design and post a Page Y-DNA web >site where we can make the Page Surname Y-DNA Project test results >available to the public but still preserve the identity of the participants. > >GWP >At 08:37 PM 4/18/2008, you wrote: > >George....great message. Would like to support you. What can I do, maybe >a > >seperate message to who??? maybe Rootsweb.com supporting you. I owe a > >lot to you for your support and I think many do not understand what you >have > >done in growing our knowledge of the various PAGE lines. Give me some hint > >of what I can do. Thanks for your many years of helping us dumb ones to > >understand. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "George W. Page" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 1:25 AM > >Subject: [PAGE] Y-DNA Tests and the Page Surname Y-DNA Project > > > > > > > More and more male PAGEs are getting their Y-DNA tested cheaply by > > > one of several firms, including: > > > RELATIVE GENETICS, DNAHERITAGE, ANCESTRY, OXFORD ANCESTORS, GENEBASE, > > > and FAMILY TREE DNA (FTDNA) > > > > > > Unfortunately not all firms test the same DYS markers or score the > > > test results in the same manner so that comparing Y-DNA test results > > > of different people tested by different companies is like comparing > > > "apples to oranges!" > > > > > > I have since 1992 served as the non-paid, volunteer administrator of > > > the PAGE Surname Project of Family Tree DNA (FTDNA). > > > > > > The purpose of this Page Y-DNA Surname Project is as follows: > > > > > > Website Description: > > > "The purpose of this PAGE Family Y-Chromosome DNA Group is to > > > identify the various PAGE lines and help members of the group of PAGE > > > males (or their proxie) find their immigrant PAGE family line > > > origins, ancestors, and living cousins. The PAGE group was started in > > > early 2002 using Oxford Ancestry and FTDNA test results of over one > > > hundred male PAGEs & PAIGEs to establish and verify 'Fingerprint > > > Y-DNA Markers' for about 15 different PAGE immigrant lines to > > > America. We also encourage and welcome male PAGEs who live in Canada, > > > the UK, and countries 'Down Under.' > > > > > > "I am the PAGE Group Administrator for PAGE/PAIGE tests and will > > > analysis your test data based upon the known paper trails of your > > > PAGE ancestry and my knowledge gained since 1977 of 15 or so Page > > > Family lines and their origins. Your PAGE test results and analysis > > > will be shared only with you and the other tested male PAGEs (or > > > their proxie) in order to help you and them locate cousins previously > > > unknown. > > > > > > "A Surname Project traces members of a family that share a common > > > surname. Since surnames are passed down from father to son like the > > > Y-chromosome, this test is for males taking a Y-DNA test. Females do > > > not carry their father's Y-DNA and acquire a new surname by way of > > > marriage, so the tested individual must be a male that wants to check > > > his direct paternal line (father's father's father's...) with a > > > Y-DNA12, Y-DNA37, or Y-DNA67 marker test. Females who would like to > > > check their direct paternal line can have a male relative with this > > > surname order a Y-DNA test." > > > > > > "New members are encouraged to order and take FTDNA's Y-DNA Plus test > > > kit with at least 25 Markers (not 12).... > > > Members Tested to date: 107 > > > ________ > > > > > > BENEFITS OF TESTING WITH FAMILY TREE DNA > > > Other than the cost of the test, all the following services are > > > provided FOR FREE; > > > You will be part of the PAGE Surname Y-DNA Project that I administer > > > and benefit from my extensive knowledge of PAGE Family histories; > > > You will be included in the largest Y-DNA database in the world, and > > > the most extensive database of tested male PAGEs (107); > > > You have total control over whether you compare your results only > > > within the Page Y-DNA project or against the entire database; > > > The names and email addresses of your genetic Y-DNA matches are > > > provided so that you may contact them; > > > Personal phone and e-mail support by qualified personnel. Both the > > > phones and email messages are answered by a human being and not by > > > an automated response system; > > > Family Tree DNA is the only service which has a calculator, created > > > by their population geneticist, that gives you the likelihood of > > > sharing a common > > > ancestor with your genetic match within a certain time frame Family > > > Tree DNA allows you to join, leave, and be part of multiple Projects > > > at the same time, without any additional testing or cost; > > > As the Project Administrator I will compare the male PAGE's Y-DNA > > > test results with about 15 identified Page Family Lines so far >identified; > > > As over 100 tested males are already in our database, your result > > > will be matched against them and in case of a match you will be > > > notified by e-mail; > > > Family Tree DNA allows you continued access to your account, > > > projects, and matches without additional testing, cost or subscription > > > fees; > > > Family Tree DNA is the only company that stores your DNA for 25 years > > > allowing you to order additional tests using the original sample > > > Family Tree DNA is the only company to offer the SNP Assurance > > > Program: if no backbone haplogroup can be estimated with 100% > > > certainty, FTDNA will SNP test your sample for free > > > > > > Please contact me if you are a male Page, or have a male Page > > > relative, and are interested in getting Y-DNA tested and > > > participating in this PAGE Surname Y-DNA Project. You can also > > > contact me even if you have Y-DNA test results from any of the firms > > > listed to see if your test results can be added to this project. > > > > > > George W. Page > > > PAGE Surname Y-DNA Project Administrator > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for your help and support, Robert. Any help convincing untested PAGE males to order a Y-DNA test kit and do the painless swabbing of the insides of the cheeks before sending their Y-DNA samples to a qualified DNA lab would be appreciated. The testing of close relatives of those who have already been tested would NOT be beneficial and would be a waste of money. I am seeking a volunteer to help me design and post a Page Y-DNA web site where we can make the Page Surname Y-DNA Project test results available to the public but still preserve the identity of the participants. GWP At 08:37 PM 4/18/2008, you wrote: >George....great message. Would like to support you. What can I do, maybe a >seperate message to who??? maybe Rootsweb.com supporting you. I owe a >lot to you for your support and I think many do not understand what you have >done in growing our knowledge of the various PAGE lines. Give me some hint >of what I can do. Thanks for your many years of helping us dumb ones to >understand. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "George W. Page" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 1:25 AM >Subject: [PAGE] Y-DNA Tests and the Page Surname Y-DNA Project > > > > More and more male PAGEs are getting their Y-DNA tested cheaply by > > one of several firms, including: > > RELATIVE GENETICS, DNAHERITAGE, ANCESTRY, OXFORD ANCESTORS, GENEBASE, > > and FAMILY TREE DNA (FTDNA) > > > > Unfortunately not all firms test the same DYS markers or score the > > test results in the same manner so that comparing Y-DNA test results > > of different people tested by different companies is like comparing > > "apples to oranges!" > > > > I have since 1992 served as the non-paid, volunteer administrator of > > the PAGE Surname Project of Family Tree DNA (FTDNA). > > > > The purpose of this Page Y-DNA Surname Project is as follows: > > > > Website Description: > > "The purpose of this PAGE Family Y-Chromosome DNA Group is to > > identify the various PAGE lines and help members of the group of PAGE > > males (or their proxie) find their immigrant PAGE family line > > origins, ancestors, and living cousins. The PAGE group was started in > > early 2002 using Oxford Ancestry and FTDNA test results of over one > > hundred male PAGEs & PAIGEs to establish and verify 'Fingerprint > > Y-DNA Markers' for about 15 different PAGE immigrant lines to > > America. We also encourage and welcome male PAGEs who live in Canada, > > the UK, and countries 'Down Under.' > > > > "I am the PAGE Group Administrator for PAGE/PAIGE tests and will > > analysis your test data based upon the known paper trails of your > > PAGE ancestry and my knowledge gained since 1977 of 15 or so Page > > Family lines and their origins. Your PAGE test results and analysis > > will be shared only with you and the other tested male PAGEs (or > > their proxie) in order to help you and them locate cousins previously > > unknown. > > > > "A Surname Project traces members of a family that share a common > > surname. Since surnames are passed down from father to son like the > > Y-chromosome, this test is for males taking a Y-DNA test. Females do > > not carry their father's Y-DNA and acquire a new surname by way of > > marriage, so the tested individual must be a male that wants to check > > his direct paternal line (father's father's father's...) with a > > Y-DNA12, Y-DNA37, or Y-DNA67 marker test. Females who would like to > > check their direct paternal line can have a male relative with this > > surname order a Y-DNA test." > > > > "New members are encouraged to order and take FTDNA's Y-DNA Plus test > > kit with at least 25 Markers (not 12).... > > Members Tested to date: 107 > > ________ > > > > BENEFITS OF TESTING WITH FAMILY TREE DNA > > Other than the cost of the test, all the following services are > > provided FOR FREE; > > You will be part of the PAGE Surname Y-DNA Project that I administer > > and benefit from my extensive knowledge of PAGE Family histories; > > You will be included in the largest Y-DNA database in the world, and > > the most extensive database of tested male PAGEs (107); > > You have total control over whether you compare your results only > > within the Page Y-DNA project or against the entire database; > > The names and email addresses of your genetic Y-DNA matches are > > provided so that you may contact them; > > Personal phone and e-mail support by qualified personnel. Both the > > phones and email messages are answered by a human being and not by > > an automated response system; > > Family Tree DNA is the only service which has a calculator, created > > by their population geneticist, that gives you the likelihood of > > sharing a common > > ancestor with your genetic match within a certain time frame Family > > Tree DNA allows you to join, leave, and be part of multiple Projects > > at the same time, without any additional testing or cost; > > As the Project Administrator I will compare the male PAGE's Y-DNA > > test results with about 15 identified Page Family Lines so far identified; > > As over 100 tested males are already in our database, your result > > will be matched against them and in case of a match you will be > > notified by e-mail; > > Family Tree DNA allows you continued access to your account, > > projects, and matches without additional testing, cost or subscription > > fees; > > Family Tree DNA is the only company that stores your DNA for 25 years > > allowing you to order additional tests using the original sample > > Family Tree DNA is the only company to offer the SNP Assurance > > Program: if no backbone haplogroup can be estimated with 100% > > certainty, FTDNA will SNP test your sample for free > > > > Please contact me if you are a male Page, or have a male Page > > relative, and are interested in getting Y-DNA tested and > > participating in this PAGE Surname Y-DNA Project. You can also > > contact me even if you have Y-DNA test results from any of the firms > > listed to see if your test results can be added to this project. > > > > George W. Page > > PAGE Surname Y-DNA Project Administrator > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

George, I design and create webpages, and would be honored to make one for the Page Y-DNA test results, if you would like one made. Brenda Page Hare -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George W. Page Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 1:02 PM To: Robert Page; [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAGE] Y-DNA Tests and the Page Surname Y-DNA Project Thanks for your help and support, Robert. Any help convincing untested PAGE males to order a Y-DNA test kit and do the painless swabbing of the insides of the cheeks before sending their Y-DNA samples to a qualified DNA lab would be appreciated. The testing of close relatives of those who have already been tested would NOT be beneficial and would be a waste of money. I am seeking a volunteer to help me design and post a Page Y-DNA web site where we can make the Page Surname Y-DNA Project test results available to the public but still preserve the identity of the participants. GWP At 08:37 PM 4/18/2008, you wrote: >George....great message. Would like to support you. What can I do, maybe a >seperate message to who??? maybe Rootsweb.com supporting you. I owe a >lot to you for your support and I think many do not understand what you have >done in growing our knowledge of the various PAGE lines. Give me some hint >of what I can do. Thanks for your many years of helping us dumb ones to >understand. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "George W. Page" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 1:25 AM >Subject: [PAGE] Y-DNA Tests and the Page Surname Y-DNA Project > > > > More and more male PAGEs are getting their Y-DNA tested cheaply by > > one of several firms, including: > > RELATIVE GENETICS, DNAHERITAGE, ANCESTRY, OXFORD ANCESTORS, GENEBASE, > > and FAMILY TREE DNA (FTDNA) > > > > Unfortunately not all firms test the same DYS markers or score the > > test results in the same manner so that comparing Y-DNA test results > > of different people tested by different companies is like comparing > > "apples to oranges!" > > > > I have since 1992 served as the non-paid, volunteer administrator of > > the PAGE Surname Project of Family Tree DNA (FTDNA). > > > > The purpose of this Page Y-DNA Surname Project is as follows: > > > > Website Description: > > "The purpose of this PAGE Family Y-Chromosome DNA Group is to > > identify the various PAGE lines and help members of the group of PAGE > > males (or their proxie) find their immigrant PAGE family line > > origins, ancestors, and living cousins. The PAGE group was started in > > early 2002 using Oxford Ancestry and FTDNA test results of over one > > hundred male PAGEs & PAIGEs to establish and verify 'Fingerprint > > Y-DNA Markers' for about 15 different PAGE immigrant lines to > > America. We also encourage and welcome male PAGEs who live in Canada, > > the UK, and countries 'Down Under.' > > > > "I am the PAGE Group Administrator for PAGE/PAIGE tests and will > > analysis your test data based upon the known paper trails of your > > PAGE ancestry and my knowledge gained since 1977 of 15 or so Page > > Family lines and their origins. Your PAGE test results and analysis > > will be shared only with you and the other tested male PAGEs (or > > their proxie) in order to help you and them locate cousins previously > > unknown. > > > > "A Surname Project traces members of a family that share a common > > surname. Since surnames are passed down from father to son like the > > Y-chromosome, this test is for males taking a Y-DNA test. Females do > > not carry their father's Y-DNA and acquire a new surname by way of > > marriage, so the tested individual must be a male that wants to check > > his direct paternal line (father's father's father's...) with a > > Y-DNA12, Y-DNA37, or Y-DNA67 marker test. Females who would like to > > check their direct paternal line can have a male relative with this > > surname order a Y-DNA test." > > > > "New members are encouraged to order and take FTDNA's Y-DNA Plus test > > kit with at least 25 Markers (not 12).... > > Members Tested to date: 107 > > ________ > > > > BENEFITS OF TESTING WITH FAMILY TREE DNA > > Other than the cost of the test, all the following services are > > provided FOR FREE; > > You will be part of the PAGE Surname Y-DNA Project that I administer > > and benefit from my extensive knowledge of PAGE Family histories; > > You will be included in the largest Y-DNA database in the world, and > > the most extensive database of tested male PAGEs (107); > > You have total control over whether you compare your results only > > within the Page Y-DNA project or against the entire database; > > The names and email addresses of your genetic Y-DNA matches are > > provided so that you may contact them; > > Personal phone and e-mail support by qualified personnel. Both the > > phones and email messages are answered by a human being and not by > > an automated response system; > > Family Tree DNA is the only service which has a calculator, created > > by their population geneticist, that gives you the likelihood of > > sharing a common > > ancestor with your genetic match within a certain time frame Family > > Tree DNA allows you to join, leave, and be part of multiple Projects > > at the same time, without any additional testing or cost; > > As the Project Administrator I will compare the male PAGE's Y-DNA > > test results with about 15 identified Page Family Lines so far identified; > > As over 100 tested males are already in our database, your result > > will be matched against them and in case of a match you will be > > notified by e-mail; > > Family Tree DNA allows you continued access to your account, > > projects, and matches without additional testing, cost or subscription > > fees; > > Family Tree DNA is the only company that stores your DNA for 25 years > > allowing you to order additional tests using the original sample > > Family Tree DNA is the only company to offer the SNP Assurance > > Program: if no backbone haplogroup can be estimated with 100% > > certainty, FTDNA will SNP test your sample for free > > > > Please contact me if you are a male Page, or have a male Page > > relative, and are interested in getting Y-DNA tested and > > participating in this PAGE Surname Y-DNA Project. You can also > > contact me even if you have Y-DNA test results from any of the firms > > listed to see if your test results can be added to this project. > > > > George W. Page > > PAGE Surname Y-DNA Project Administrator > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

George....great message. Would like to support you. What can I do, maybe a seperate message to who??? maybe Rootsweb.com supporting you. I owe a lot to you for your support and I think many do not understand what you have done in growing our knowledge of the various PAGE lines. Give me some hint of what I can do. Thanks for your many years of helping us dumb ones to understand. ----- Original Message ----- From: "George W. Page" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 1:25 AM Subject: [PAGE] Y-DNA Tests and the Page Surname Y-DNA Project > More and more male PAGEs are getting their Y-DNA tested cheaply by > one of several firms, including: > RELATIVE GENETICS, DNAHERITAGE, ANCESTRY, OXFORD ANCESTORS, GENEBASE, > and FAMILY TREE DNA (FTDNA) > > Unfortunately not all firms test the same DYS markers or score the > test results in the same manner so that comparing Y-DNA test results > of different people tested by different companies is like comparing > "apples to oranges!" > > I have since 1992 served as the non-paid, volunteer administrator of > the PAGE Surname Project of Family Tree DNA (FTDNA). > > The purpose of this Page Y-DNA Surname Project is as follows: > > Website Description: > "The purpose of this PAGE Family Y-Chromosome DNA Group is to > identify the various PAGE lines and help members of the group of PAGE > males (or their proxie) find their immigrant PAGE family line > origins, ancestors, and living cousins. The PAGE group was started in > early 2002 using Oxford Ancestry and FTDNA test results of over one > hundred male PAGEs & PAIGEs to establish and verify 'Fingerprint > Y-DNA Markers' for about 15 different PAGE immigrant lines to > America. We also encourage and welcome male PAGEs who live in Canada, > the UK, and countries 'Down Under.' > > "I am the PAGE Group Administrator for PAGE/PAIGE tests and will > analysis your test data based upon the known paper trails of your > PAGE ancestry and my knowledge gained since 1977 of 15 or so Page > Family lines and their origins. Your PAGE test results and analysis > will be shared only with you and the other tested male PAGEs (or > their proxie) in order to help you and them locate cousins previously > unknown. > > "A Surname Project traces members of a family that share a common > surname. Since surnames are passed down from father to son like the > Y-chromosome, this test is for males taking a Y-DNA test. Females do > not carry their father's Y-DNA and acquire a new surname by way of > marriage, so the tested individual must be a male that wants to check > his direct paternal line (father's father's father's...) with a > Y-DNA12, Y-DNA37, or Y-DNA67 marker test. Females who would like to > check their direct paternal line can have a male relative with this > surname order a Y-DNA test." > > "New members are encouraged to order and take FTDNA's Y-DNA Plus test > kit with at least 25 Markers (not 12).... > Members Tested to date: 107 > ________ > > BENEFITS OF TESTING WITH FAMILY TREE DNA > Other than the cost of the test, all the following services are > provided FOR FREE; > You will be part of the PAGE Surname Y-DNA Project that I administer > and benefit from my extensive knowledge of PAGE Family histories; > You will be included in the largest Y-DNA database in the world, and > the most extensive database of tested male PAGEs (107); > You have total control over whether you compare your results only > within the Page Y-DNA project or against the entire database; > The names and email addresses of your genetic Y-DNA matches are > provided so that you may contact them; > Personal phone and e-mail support by qualified personnel. Both the > phones and email messages are answered by a human being and not by > an automated response system; > Family Tree DNA is the only service which has a calculator, created > by their population geneticist, that gives you the likelihood of > sharing a common > ancestor with your genetic match within a certain time frame Family > Tree DNA allows you to join, leave, and be part of multiple Projects > at the same time, without any additional testing or cost; > As the Project Administrator I will compare the male PAGE's Y-DNA > test results with about 15 identified Page Family Lines so far identified; > As over 100 tested males are already in our database, your result > will be matched against them and in case of a match you will be > notified by e-mail; > Family Tree DNA allows you continued access to your account, > projects, and matches without additional testing, cost or subscription > fees; > Family Tree DNA is the only company that stores your DNA for 25 years > allowing you to order additional tests using the original sample > Family Tree DNA is the only company to offer the SNP Assurance > Program: if no backbone haplogroup can be estimated with 100% > certainty, FTDNA will SNP test your sample for free > > Please contact me if you are a male Page, or have a male Page > relative, and are interested in getting Y-DNA tested and > participating in this PAGE Surname Y-DNA Project. You can also > contact me even if you have Y-DNA test results from any of the firms > listed to see if your test results can be added to this project. > > George W. Page > PAGE Surname Y-DNA Project Administrator > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

More and more male PAGEs are getting their Y-DNA tested cheaply by one of several firms, including: RELATIVE GENETICS, DNAHERITAGE, ANCESTRY, OXFORD ANCESTORS, GENEBASE, and FAMILY TREE DNA (FTDNA) Unfortunately not all firms test the same DYS markers or score the test results in the same manner so that comparing Y-DNA test results of different people tested by different companies is like comparing "apples to oranges!" I have since 1992 served as the non-paid, volunteer administrator of the PAGE Surname Project of Family Tree DNA (FTDNA). The purpose of this Page Y-DNA Surname Project is as follows: Website Description: "The purpose of this PAGE Family Y-Chromosome DNA Group is to identify the various PAGE lines and help members of the group of PAGE males (or their proxie) find their immigrant PAGE family line origins, ancestors, and living cousins. The PAGE group was started in early 2002 using Oxford Ancestry and FTDNA test results of over one hundred male PAGEs & PAIGEs to establish and verify 'Fingerprint Y-DNA Markers' for about 15 different PAGE immigrant lines to America. We also encourage and welcome male PAGEs who live in Canada, the UK, and countries 'Down Under.' "I am the PAGE Group Administrator for PAGE/PAIGE tests and will analysis your test data based upon the known paper trails of your PAGE ancestry and my knowledge gained since 1977 of 15 or so Page Family lines and their origins. Your PAGE test results and analysis will be shared only with you and the other tested male PAGEs (or their proxie) in order to help you and them locate cousins previously unknown. "A Surname Project traces members of a family that share a common surname. Since surnames are passed down from father to son like the Y-chromosome, this test is for males taking a Y-DNA test. Females do not carry their father's Y-DNA and acquire a new surname by way of marriage, so the tested individual must be a male that wants to check his direct paternal line (father's father's father's...) with a Y-DNA12, Y-DNA37, or Y-DNA67 marker test. Females who would like to check their direct paternal line can have a male relative with this surname order a Y-DNA test." "New members are encouraged to order and take FTDNA's Y-DNA Plus test kit with at least 25 Markers (not 12).... Members Tested to date: 107 ________ BENEFITS OF TESTING WITH FAMILY TREE DNA Other than the cost of the test, all the following services are provided FOR FREE; You will be part of the PAGE Surname Y-DNA Project that I administer and benefit from my extensive knowledge of PAGE Family histories; You will be included in the largest Y-DNA database in the world, and the most extensive database of tested male PAGEs (107); You have total control over whether you compare your results only within the Page Y-DNA project or against the entire database; The names and email addresses of your genetic Y-DNA matches are provided so that you may contact them; Personal phone and e-mail support by qualified personnel. Both the phones and email messages are answered by a human being and not by an automated response system; Family Tree DNA is the only service which has a calculator, created by their population geneticist, that gives you the likelihood of sharing a common ancestor with your genetic match within a certain time frame Family Tree DNA allows you to join, leave, and be part of multiple Projects at the same time, without any additional testing or cost; As the Project Administrator I will compare the male PAGE's Y-DNA test results with about 15 identified Page Family Lines so far identified; As over 100 tested males are already in our database, your result will be matched against them and in case of a match you will be notified by e-mail; Family Tree DNA allows you continued access to your account, projects, and matches without additional testing, cost or subscription fees; Family Tree DNA is the only company that stores your DNA for 25 years allowing you to order additional tests using the original sample Family Tree DNA is the only company to offer the SNP Assurance Program: if no backbone haplogroup can be estimated with 100% certainty, FTDNA will SNP test your sample for free Please contact me if you are a male Page, or have a male Page relative, and are interested in getting Y-DNA tested and participating in this PAGE Surname Y-DNA Project. You can also contact me even if you have Y-DNA test results from any of the firms listed to see if your test results can be added to this project. George W. Page PAGE Surname Y-DNA Project Administrator

David Page married Eleanor Kimball in approximately 1808 in Harmony, Somerset, Maine. They then lived in Harmony, raised their family of at least 10 children and died there (I think). I have a death date for David of 1862 in Harmony. They were there for every census from 1810 to 1860. That is all I can find on David Page. Does anyone have any information as to his parents and ancestors. I believe he was born 25 Aug 1786 in Maine. I would be very grateful for any information anyone could give me on the ancestors of David Page. Thank you. Brenda

I doubt that your line of PAGEs has anything to do with those descended from Benjamin Page,b. 1640 in England who was the subject posted! GWP At 01:20 PM 3/27/2008, you wrote: >RE: i descend from JOHN PAGE of orange county,virginia,he was born >about 1704,he married a woman by the name of hannah unknown.my >EDWARD PAGE,my gggggrandfather was born from one of the "PAGE MEN" >from that line,i would like to know who my gggggrandfathers parents >were: EDWARD PAGE was born 1776,probably in AMHERST,VIRGINIA. > my gggggrandfather married-ELIZABETH "BETSY"WARE > WOOD-18/MARCH/1805-AMHERST,VIRGINIA,he died-20/march/1854-albemarle > county,virginia,possibly buried-humpback mountain on the blueridge > parkway with his daughter ELIZABETH PAGE BALSLEY. > john may i ask who you are? are you a "PAGE"? JUST CURIOUS! > CJ PAGE > >[email protected] wrote: > This is the last email I find from you... Cheers... :) John > > >-----Original Message----- >From: George W. Page >To: [email protected] >Sent: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 8:38 pm >Subject: [PAGE] Line Descended From Benjamin Page, b. 1640, Eng. > > > >Here is a whole line of PAGEs from NH who are descended from a >Benjamin Page, b. in 1640, who immigrant to Mass. in 1660 which I >found on the Internet: > >Page, Samuel Smith >The following data is extracted from Merrimack and Sullivan Counties, >New Hampshire Biographies >Source: >http://www.accessgenealogy.com/scripts/data/database.cgi?file=Data&report=SingleArticle&ArticleID=0024011 > >"Samuel Smith Page, who for more than forty years was one of the most >esteemed residents of Hopkinton, was born September 30, 1822, in >Dunbarton, N.H. He is a descendant of Benjamin Page, who was born in >1640, in Dedbam (sic, Dedham, co. Essex ?), fifty-seven miles >north-east of London, England. In 1660, on account of religious >differences, Benjamin came to America, locating in Haverhill, Mass., >where on September 21, 1666, he married Mary Whittier, who belonged >to the family from which the poet, John G. Whittier, sprung. Their >son, Jeremiah, the eldest of a family of sixteen, born September 14, >1667, was the next ancestor. He married Deborah Hendrick, of >Newburyport, Mass., July 2, 1696; and they reared seven children, >Caleb and Joshua. He died in 1752. > >"Caleb Page, the next in line of descent, was born August 16, 1705, >and died in 1785. He married in 1728 or 1729 Ruth Wallingford, of >Boston, who died in 1738. In 1740 he married a widow Carleton, of >Newburyport, who weighed three hundred and fifteen pounds. She, >together with a huge arm-chair, now in the possession of the Stark >family, had to be carried to meeting on an ox sled. In 1749 Caleb >Page removed from Haverhill, Mass., to Atkinson, N.H., where he is >said to have owned land measuring one mile in opposite directions >from the site of the present academy. In 1751 he sold his lands in >Atkinson for his wife's weight in silver dollars, and located in >Dunbarton, this county. The country was then infested with Indians; >and his daughter Elizabeth, who later became the wife of General John >Stark of Revolutionary fame, often stood, musket in hand, as guard at >the rude block-house. In 1758 Governor Wentworth appointed Caleb Page >Captain of Provincials. The commission given to him on this occasion >is copied in full in the History of Dunbarton. Caleb, who is said to >have had a noble and benevolent spirit, had ample means to indulge >his generous impulses. His money, comprising golden guineas, silver >crowns and dollars, was kept in a half-bushel measure under the bed. >He owned many slaves. His house was the abode of hospitality and the >scene of many a happy gathering. In 1753, previous to receiving his >Captain's commission, the governor sent him as a guide with Colonel >Lowell, of Dunbarton, Major Talford, of Chester, and General John >Stark, to mark out the road from Stevenstown, now Salisbury, to Coos. >He was a firm patriot, and in 1775 was the first delegate from >Dunbarton and Bow to the Provincial Congress. His children were: >Caleb, Jeremiah, Elizabeth, and Molly. Caleb Page, Jr., who held a >Lieutenant's commission in the French and Indian War, together with >his company was ambushed by Indians between Crown Point and >Ticonderoga, and killed in the ensuing massacre with several of his >men, January 21, 1757. Elizabeth, born in 1736, who died in 1817, >married General John Stark, by whom she had eight children; namely, >John, Caleb, Archibald, Charles, Ellen, Polly, Sophia, and Frank. >Molly married Deacon James Russell, of Bow. > >"Jeremiah Page, born in August, 1730, died November 29, 1807. In 1745 >he bought land in Dunbarton, and from that time until his death was >actively identified with local affairs. He served as Justice of the >Peace, and did most of the surveying for Hillsborough County. In 1784 >he was appointed Judge in the New Hampshire courts. In 1752 he >married Sarah Merrill, of Billerica, Mass., who was born in 1732, and >died September 5, 1807. Their children were: Caleb, the grandfather >of Samuel Smith Page; Sarah, born in Dracut, Mass., December 24, >1754, who married A. Stinson, and died in 1835. Jeremiah, a native of >Dunbarton, born in 1756, who died in 1842; Achsah, born September 25, >1759, who died in 1831, and whose successive husbands were first B. >Plummer, Esq., who died in 1816, and Captain C. Coffin; Elizabeth, >born August 2, 1765, who married William Tenney, and died October 22, >1838; John, born in 1767, who married M. Story in 1810, and died >August 14, 1837; and Ruth, born in 1770, who married Dr. S. Sawyer, >and died June 27, 1804. Caleb Page, the third bearer of the name, was >born in Dracut, Mass., in April, 1751, and died June 3, 1816. His >wife, Hannah, bore him seven children, three of the sons being named >Caleb, John, and Peter Carleton. Peter Carleton Page, the Samuel S. >Page, was born July 1, 1783, and died October 15, 1858. He married >Miss Lucy Smith, who was born November 26, 1792, in Hopkinton. They >reared three sons; namely, Caleb, Samuel Smith, and George. > >"Samuel Smith Page received his education in Pembroke, Hopkinton, and >New Hampton. Ill health forced him to abandon further study; and at >the age of eighteen years he began teaching school in Weston, Mass., >where his mathematical ability was well displayed. A pupil relates >that when the text-book was completed the young teacher propounded >questions that, he said, had baffled Dartmouth professors, the class >often spending its energies for a whole week on some of them. After >his marriage he bought the Greenough homestead on Dimond Hill on the >dividing line between Concord and Hopkinton, and there successfully >carried on general farming until his death, which occurred on >Thursday, October 22, 1896. > >"In 1852, June 10, Mr. Page married Miss Ellen Maria Cutter, of >Weston, Mass., one of his pupils, who was five years younger than >himself. He was a man of great intelligence and force of character, >having the courage of his convictions, which he was never unwilling >to express or defend. He served several terms as Moderator of >Dunbarton, was a member of the Superintending School Committee, and >in 1864 and 1865 was one of the Selectmen of Hopkinton. In 1840 he >united with the Baptist church of his native town, having been >converted during a revival, and for more than half a century after >was devoted to the Christian work of that denomination as well as to >the broader needs of humanity, his large and loving heart beating in >sympathy with those of every sect and clime. Throughout his long >illness he was a most patient and cheerful sufferer, trusting >serenely in the goodness of the Divine Master. His death was a sad >loss, not only to his immediate family, but to the community in which >he had so long lived. The only child of Mr. and Mrs. Page was a >daughter-Lucie Elizabeth, who is now the wife of Arthur Borden, of >Denver, Col., and has one child, Marguerite Borden." > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >body of >the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >--------------------------------- >Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

RE: i descend from JOHN PAGE of orange county,virginia,he was born about 1704,he married a woman by the name of hannah unknown.my EDWARD PAGE,my gggggrandfather was born from one of the "PAGE MEN" from that line,i would like to know who my gggggrandfathers parents were: EDWARD PAGE was born 1776,probably in AMHERST,VIRGINIA. my gggggrandfather married-ELIZABETH "BETSY"WARE WOOD-18/MARCH/1805-AMHERST,VIRGINIA,he died-20/march/1854-albemarle county,virginia,possibly buried-humpback mountain on the blueridge parkway with his daughter ELIZABETH PAGE BALSLEY. john may i ask who you are? are you a "PAGE"? JUST CURIOUS! CJ PAGE [email protected] wrote: This is the last email I find from you... Cheers... :) John -----Original Message----- From: George W. Page To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 8:38 pm Subject: [PAGE] Line Descended From Benjamin Page, b. 1640, Eng. Here is a whole line of PAGEs from NH who are descended from a Benjamin Page, b. in 1640, who immigrant to Mass. in 1660 which I found on the Internet: Page, Samuel Smith The following data is extracted from Merrimack and Sullivan Counties, New Hampshire Biographies Source: http://www.accessgenealogy.com/scripts/data/database.cgi?file=Data&report=SingleArticle&ArticleID=0024011 "Samuel Smith Page, who for more than forty years was one of the most esteemed residents of Hopkinton, was born September 30, 1822, in Dunbarton, N.H. He is a descendant of Benjamin Page, who was born in 1640, in Dedbam (sic, Dedham, co. Essex ?), fifty-seven miles north-east of London, England. In 1660, on account of religious differences, Benjamin came to America, locating in Haverhill, Mass., where on September 21, 1666, he married Mary Whittier, who belonged to the family from which the poet, John G. Whittier, sprung. Their son, Jeremiah, the eldest of a family of sixteen, born September 14, 1667, was the next ancestor. He married Deborah Hendrick, of Newburyport, Mass., July 2, 1696; and they reared seven children, Caleb and Joshua. He died in 1752. "Caleb Page, the next in line of descent, was born August 16, 1705, and died in 1785. He married in 1728 or 1729 Ruth Wallingford, of Boston, who died in 1738. In 1740 he married a widow Carleton, of Newburyport, who weighed three hundred and fifteen pounds. She, together with a huge arm-chair, now in the possession of the Stark family, had to be carried to meeting on an ox sled. In 1749 Caleb Page removed from Haverhill, Mass., to Atkinson, N.H., where he is said to have owned land measuring one mile in opposite directions from the site of the present academy. In 1751 he sold his lands in Atkinson for his wife's weight in silver dollars, and located in Dunbarton, this county. The country was then infested with Indians; and his daughter Elizabeth, who later became the wife of General John Stark of Revolutionary fame, often stood, musket in hand, as guard at the rude block-house. In 1758 Governor Wentworth appointed Caleb Page Captain of Provincials. The commission given to him on this occasion is copied in full in the History of Dunbarton. Caleb, who is said to have had a noble and benevolent spirit, had ample means to indulge his generous impulses. His money, comprising golden guineas, silver crowns and dollars, was kept in a half-bushel measure under the bed. He owned many slaves. His house was the abode of hospitality and the scene of many a happy gathering. In 1753, previous to receiving his Captain's commission, the governor sent him as a guide with Colonel Lowell, of Dunbarton, Major Talford, of Chester, and General John Stark, to mark out the road from Stevenstown, now Salisbury, to Coos. He was a firm patriot, and in 1775 was the first delegate from Dunbarton and Bow to the Provincial Congress. His children were: Caleb, Jeremiah, Elizabeth, and Molly. Caleb Page, Jr., who held a Lieutenant's commission in the French and Indian War, together with his company was ambushed by Indians between Crown Point and Ticonderoga, and killed in the ensuing massacre with several of his men, January 21, 1757. Elizabeth, born in 1736, who died in 1817, married General John Stark, by whom she had eight children; namely, John, Caleb, Archibald, Charles, Ellen, Polly, Sophia, and Frank. Molly married Deacon James Russell, of Bow. "Jeremiah Page, born in August, 1730, died November 29, 1807. In 1745 he bought land in Dunbarton, and from that time until his death was actively identified with local affairs. He served as Justice of the Peace, and did most of the surveying for Hillsborough County. In 1784 he was appointed Judge in the New Hampshire courts. In 1752 he married Sarah Merrill, of Billerica, Mass., who was born in 1732, and died September 5, 1807. Their children were: Caleb, the grandfather of Samuel Smith Page; Sarah, born in Dracut, Mass., December 24, 1754, who married A. Stinson, and died in 1835. Jeremiah, a native of Dunbarton, born in 1756, who died in 1842; Achsah, born September 25, 1759, who died in 1831, and whose successive husbands were first B. Plummer, Esq., who died in 1816, and Captain C. Coffin; Elizabeth, born August 2, 1765, who married William Tenney, and died October 22, 1838; John, born in 1767, who married M. Story in 1810, and died August 14, 1837; and Ruth, born in 1770, who married Dr. S. Sawyer, and died June 27, 1804. Caleb Page, the third bearer of the name, was born in Dracut, Mass., in April, 1751, and died June 3, 1816. His wife, Hannah, bore him seven children, three of the sons being named Caleb, John, and Peter Carleton. Peter Carleton Page, the Samuel S. Page, was born July 1, 1783, and died October 15, 1858. He married Miss Lucy Smith, who was born November 26, 1792, in Hopkinton. They reared three sons; namely, Caleb, Samuel Smith, and George. "Samuel Smith Page received his education in Pembroke, Hopkinton, and New Hampton. Ill health forced him to abandon further study; and at the age of eighteen years he began teaching school in Weston, Mass., where his mathematical ability was well displayed. A pupil relates that when the text-book was completed the young teacher propounded questions that, he said, had baffled Dartmouth professors, the class often spending its energies for a whole week on some of them. After his marriage he bought the Greenough homestead on Dimond Hill on the dividing line between Concord and Hopkinton, and there successfully carried on general farming until his death, which occurred on Thursday, October 22, 1896. "In 1852, June 10, Mr. Page married Miss Ellen Maria Cutter, of Weston, Mass., one of his pupils, who was five years younger than himself. He was a man of great intelligence and force of character, having the courage of his convictions, which he was never unwilling to express or defend. He served several terms as Moderator of Dunbarton, was a member of the Superintending School Committee, and in 1864 and 1865 was one of the Selectmen of Hopkinton. In 1840 he united with the Baptist church of his native town, having been converted during a revival, and for more than half a century after was devoted to the Christian work of that denomination as well as to the broader needs of humanity, his large and loving heart beating in sympathy with those of every sect and clime. Throughout his long illness he was a most patient and cheerful sufferer, trusting serenely in the goodness of the Divine Master. His death was a sad loss, not only to his immediate family, but to the community in which he had so long lived. The only child of Mr. and Mrs. Page was a daughter-Lucie Elizabeth, who is now the wife of Arthur Borden, of Denver, Col., and has one child, Marguerite Borden." ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.