Jack.. We have spoken before because you thought there may be some link to my line of PAGE's close relationship with the BENNETT's of Sampson Co, NC. The BENNETT name is one that dates back to the 1700's in Duplin/Sampson County and sure many had spread over the state. The only PAGE / BENNETT union I know of right off the bat is my great-grandparents and all their children are accounted for. There might have been an earlier one dating back to Thomas PAGE since he dealt with the Bennett's on land settlements during the late 1700's in Duplin County. Were the people he was living with in the 1850 census still his parents since he was only 22 years old? Or was he on his own by then? Any PAGE neighbors on the pages before and after his entry? Relatives didn't move too far away when the family owned land. I will look at the LDS center here in Richmond, VA this evening when I go to see if there is anything that pops up. I am looking for specific things so have plenty of extra time. Steven Page On Wed, 06 Jan 1999 16:52:39 -0500 "Daniel B. Page" <jaxjack@bellsouth.net> writes: >Steven R Page wrote: >> >> Is anyone doing PAGE lines other than those in New England and >Virginia? >> >> I can't seem to find anyone who is doing research in North >Carolina??? >> Where are you guys? >> >> Steven Page >> >> Got a business? Got a hobby? Need a WEB PAGE Designed >> or maintained? Contact us and lets see what we can >> create for you! s.page@juno.com (or) SPage1957@aol.com >> >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >> Get completely free e-mail from Juno at >http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >> or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] >> >> ==== PAGE Mailing List ==== >> Join and support RootsWeb, home of the PAGE list and many other >genealogy lists and resources - go to http://www.rootsweb.com/ > > >Steven, > >I am doing work on this line: > >Daniel Bennett. Page, aka Jack (Me) b. 8.3.1j931 > William Edward Page b. 3.5.1888 > Daniel Bennett Page b. 3.6.1863 > Bennett Page b. about 1828 > >I have been unable to go past Bennett Page.. He was in 1850 & 1860 >census of Brunswick Co. NC. He was in 3rd Co G. 36th NC Troops ( 2nd >Conf. Arty) that served the guns at Ft. Fisher.. He was captured when >Ft. Fisher fell in Jan. 1865.. He died in prison camp at Elmira NY >in >March 1865. The roll of honor stated he was from Pitt Co. NC. > >As far as I can determin he can not be connected to any of the other >Bennett Pages in WV, GA, or AL. There must be connection because >Bennett is not that a connon given name. Can you or anyone else >help >with my problem?? > >Daniel B. Page, aka Jack > Steven Page Got a business? Got a hobby? Need a WEB PAGE Designed or maintained? Contact us and lets see what we can create for you! s.page@juno.com (or) SPage1957@aol.com ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Is anyone doing PAGE lines other than those in New England and Virginia? I can't seem to find anyone who is doing research in North Carolina??? Where are you guys? Steven Page Got a business? Got a hobby? Need a WEB PAGE Designed or maintained? Contact us and lets see what we can create for you! s.page@juno.com (or) SPage1957@aol.com ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Cousins, I hope and trust that all of us on this PAGE list are already contributors to RootsWeb, without whom we would not have this list. If you are not, please realize that our contributions are needed to keep RootsWeb online - RootsWeb is user-supported, and our $1 (or more) per month from each of us will help keep all it provides available for our use. Please go to http://www.rootsweb.com/ to find out more about the many services RootsWeb provides to help us find ancestors, and to find out how you can contribute online using a credit card and secure server or fax. If you do not have web access, please send your check for $12 (or more) to RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative, P.O. Box 6798, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798. Please make sure your name and e-mail address are on the check. Your PAGE listowner (and RootsWeb supporter), Carol <cch@netdoor.com> http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/

Someone sent this to me and i thought i'd pass it on to the list. Again this is not my line, but i thought it might help someone. Hi Mathew, I happened across the following info while researching Chalkey's 'Chronicles of the Scots-Irish in VA' this morning, see: http://www.rootsweb.com/~chalkley/index.htm if you haven't visited this site. I don't know if this 'Page' info means anything but I thought about you when I saw it. Early settlers of Fayette Co. PA area were mostly from the frontiers of MD and VA. "Charles Carter of Shirley, John Lyons and Anne his wife, John Page of Rosewell, John Page of North River, William Page and John Byrd Page, infants, by John Page of Caroline, their next friend, Jane Page, John Page of Caroline, Lewis Page, Robert Page, Peyton Page, William Page, Augustus Page and Hugh Page, infants, by last named John Page, their next friend, William Byrd Page, Carter Page, Mathew Page, Robert Page, Thomas Taylor Page, Hugh Nelson and Judith, his wife, John Byrd and Maria Taylor his wife, William Nelson and Elizabeth Nelson, infants, by said Hugh Nelson, their next friend, Francis Nelson and Lucy his wife, and the representatives of Robert Page of Broad Neck, vs. Robert Carter-- Divides lands. Deed 12th June, 1803, John Page, Governor of Va., and (p.78) Margaret, his wife, to Ferdinando Fairfax of Jefferson. Recorded in General Court 13th June, 1803. (PAGE 79, Vol. II)"

I thought i'd pass this information on, IT is NOT in my lineage, but i thought it might help someone out. There are 3 Pages with autobiographies in the 1914 Hendricks County Indiana History. 1. Jeremiah Jasper Page, son of Williamson Page and Elizabeth McCloud, Williamson being from Lee County, Virginia and Elizabeth from Iowa. Williamson and wife were parents of a sarge family, Nellie, Nancy, Elizabeth, Stephen, Andrew J., Jeremiah J., Chelsey, Robert,Williamson, and Demerius. 2. Jacob Page, son of Jeremiah J. Page and wife, born March 15, 1863 about 1/2 mile west of North Salem. Parents of Asa, Cecil, Bessie, Birdie, Roxie, Mamie, Lena, Oscar, and Stella. 3. Willliam Franklin Page, son of Jeremiah J. Page and wife, was born Sept. 29, 1865 in Putnam county near the Hendricks county line. On October 10, 1893, he married Ora Carpenter. They were the parents of Estal and Dorothy May, and Mima Esther and an infant deceased. These are obviously three generations of the same family. Thanks to Rosann Settles for looking this info up for me in Hendrick co Indiana

Fellow List Members, In response to Joan M. Young's letter forwarded by Sara Greer, There is nothing wrong with selling genealogy for a living. [At the bottom of the Page list I see this--==== PAGE Mailing List ==== Visit Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites on the Internet - http://www.oz.net/~cyndihow/database.htm..Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Cyndi sell a book on her page?] Just like any other service there is money to be made. Do we fault Della Reagan Fischer for selling her transcriptions of early German church records or Hoenstine Rental Library for renting us books? It IS scary that so much is falling in the hands of so few, but what cam we do? And, Yes, its bothersome that they are taking family genealogies and histories that are available elsewhere and "selling them" online, when the money could be better spent if we bought the books from the Family Associations and genealogicl societies and they used the money for further research....But, ARE WE JOINING THE SOCIETIES OR BUYING THE BOOKS?? The Broderbund on-line genealogy library contains a lot of information at $50 per year. I spend more than that in two trips to the local library which lacks much. And what about the trip out of state to look at local records? I WISH the NY records were available thru Broderbund rather than the price you have to pay directly from the source. We are not donating books to the library or contributing to the genweb project on a large enough scale to say to hell with the large corporations and the money they can spend making this information available to us. How many of us have typed a will or deed or a chapter in a local history and submitted it for online viewing in in the genweb project? And how many genweb co-ordinators actually do anything more than post a few links and queries? There are thousands and thousands of books, census records, wills, etc. which are public domain and can be placed on the internet for all to see. This is not what we want to do, although most of us do have access to at least some kind of information to share and a little spare time in which to share it. What percentage of people who use these "free" services actually contribute? Or even do their own genealogical research? What we DO want to do is get our information from someone else without much work; hence, Broderbund and Ancestry.com. My $12 donation will do nothing to change that. I really do wish someone could explain to me how all these "vital records and publications [are] being purchased and removed from FREE public access for all time."-- Are there no copies left of periodicals and books with expired copyrights? Will I soon have to pay Broderbund to view the census at the library or walk through a graveyard? Are they going to stand between me and the old wills at the courthouse? Have they bought exclusive right to my birth certificate? I don't think so. Don't get me wrong. I subscribe to several lists. I think they are a great method of information sharing, but we need to learn to give as much as we take. None of this is really "free." We all need to take more than just a $12 bit of responsibility. Nobody is forcing us to buy anything from Broderbund. Beleive it or not, there was genealogy before the internet, and there will NEVER be a day when "all genealogical source materials must be bought and paid top dollar for" Debbie Smith

Steve I gather you use FTM. Why don't you list yourself 3 times - with each set of parents, and then check the box that says "show duplicate individuals when they appear". I believe this will make you show up three times. Surely if you export to GEDCOM then, it will think of you as three individuals. If anyone is interested enough to contact you, you can then explain what has happened. Sorry if I am repeating what others say to you! It's certainly a difficult problem. Why is it that nothing follows the textbook? good luck Pat Page BC Canada

At 11:36 AM 1/4/1999 -0500, you wrote: >Does anyone have an Amy PAGE in their lineage? I know almost nothing about >her, except she's listed as married to Delucena BACKUS, probably between >1800-1850 in New York, possibly Steuben co, or a surrounding county of New >York. I know this is really stretching, but one never knows! Thanks so much, > >Renee is Fallbrook, CA >genelady@aol.com Yes, I have her ancestry back to George Page of Branford, CT and from him back to the late 1200's! Amy was the second child of Sgt. Luther and Rachal (Fish) Page. Amy was b. c. 1791 in Norton Hills, Greene co., NY. Sgt. Luther Page was b. 27 June 1756 in Branford, CT the son of Ephraim and Martha (Norton) Page --- the same line of descent as me. Sgt. Luther Page was a Rev. War vet who served several terms for a total of six years and eight months with the 1st Conn. Regt. and then in the 4th Conn. Regt. He died before 1800 in Greenville, Greene Co., NY (Rachal Page appears as the Head of the Household in the 1800 census). He was engaged to marry Effie Brewer who died just before their wedding so he m. Rachal Fish, the daughter of Benjamin and Mary (Johnson) Fish. Luther and Rachal's first child was a daughter who they named Effie Brewer Page. She m. John Head and died in Chenango Co., NY about 1815. In addition to Amy there were four other siblings: Stephen Page (b. 22 Jan. 1791 in Waterlo, Albany Co., NY - d. 12 May 1812 in Greenville, Greene Co., NY) who m. Anna Weeks. Martha "Patty" Page (b. 15 Apr. 1793 in Norton Hills, Greene Co. NY - d. 25 Feb. 1855 in Delaware Co., Ohio) who m. Henry Thompson on 19 Apr. 1818. Anne Page who m. John Hallock. Luther Page, Jr. (b. 9 July 1795 in Norton Hills, Greene Co., NY - d. 9 Sep. 1874 in Ellisburg, Jefferson Co., NY) who m. Sally Jones. I have Amy Page's husband listed in my database as Dillus Backus, but your spelling is probably the formal and more correct version. My notes about her only state that she had children by her husband. I would be interested in knowing her descendants, including you? Can you please send the info in a GEDCOM file as an attachment? I don't believe that AOL will allow me to send you a GEDCOM file as an attachment so I'll have to send her ancestry via snail mail. Please send me your address. This info should have "made your day!" Happy New Year, Col. George W. Page, U.S. Army (Ret.) 1100 Cataway Place Bryans Road, MD 20616 (301)283-2275 gwpage@erols.com

My Page (Paige?) family is of German origin, but I have never seen any German Pages on this list. Some information lists Franklin (Frank?) Page (Paige) and his wife Nancy Sholtz as being born in Germany, and other information gives Pennsylvania (Pennsylvania Dutch) as their birthplace. I had always thought of Page as an English name, but on searching on Lycos.com for Pages phone numbers in Germany, I found over 2,000 listings. Are there any Pages (Paiges) on the list of German descent? Pat

In a message dated 99-01-04 13:13:24 EST, gwpage@erols.com writes: << I don't believe that AOL will allow me to send you a GEDCOM file as an attachment so I'll have to send her ancestry via snail mail. >> I am an AOL subscriber and have sucessfully sent a GEDCOM file as an attachment to another AOL subscriber. She could not open the GEDCOM I created on my Family Origins program on her Family Tree Maker program, but when I imported the GEDCOM to my Brothers Keeper program and made a GEDCOM there, she could open it. So it's worth a try. I have also downloaded GEDCOM files from Ancestry in AOL. Unfortunately your information isn't my line. Pat

OK...for those who wondered how I linked myself to the three different fathers within the gedcom... I have MANY different views on how and who to link but most were coming from the viewpoint of using this and that software rather than doing old fashioned hand editing of a raw data file. Here is what I did showing a snippet of the gedcom: 0 @I001@ INDI 1 NAME Steven Rodney /PAGE/ 1 SEX M 1 ALIA Steven Rodney /HOUSTMAN/ 1 BIRT 2 DATE 29 Jul 1957 2 PLAC Newport News, VA 1 ADOP 2 DATE 17 Dec 1962 2 FAMC @F106@ 3 ADOP HUSB 1 FAMC @F012@ 2 PEDI Birth 1 FAMC @F106@ 2 PEDI Adopted * What the above shows is that I am using my adopted name of PAGE for my entry. * I have shown the name I was born under but not related to as an alias under the ALIA tag * I used the adoption tag ADOP and shown date, which family group number I am an adopted child under @F106@ which points to the marriage of my mother and adoptive father * Under the regular tags that shows which family groups I am a child under @F012@ which points to my natural father whom my mother was not married to, I placed the pedigree tag PEDI to show this is my Birth family. Under @F106@ the PEDI shows it's my Adpted family and the previous ADOP tag will sort out which parent adopted me (HUSB = husband). * I used the PEDI tag so that whomever tries to list my pedigree will see that family #106 is an adoptive line rather than natural. Now, under the FAM (Family) areas where you list marriages, I did not give my natural parents a MARR (marriage) tag nor a date or place tag. This will unlink them in the marriage sense since they were not but elsewhere in the gedcom, under the INDI (individual) areas for the 2 men involved (my birth father and my adoptive one) I am listed as a child for each. The only reference to the man who's name I was born under but not related to is in my "alias" tag and within notes under my name. I may have confused many at this point but this is what I was trying to accomplish all along and as you can also see, understanding how a gedcom works and is structured isn't as bad as you think! :-) Too many have gotten "soft" by letting a program do all the work for you and as I stated before, not all software outputs the same formatted gedcom meaning that a one created on FTM will not load into FTJ because many will export as FTM or FTW format which adds tags not recognized by this software and unlinks children and marriages. Many "assume" that everyone is using the same software when there are probably as many gedcoms formatted in as many ways as there is software and very few conform to the strictest of Version 5.5 formats. By my editing the gedcom I can make sure it does and still cover all bases needed. BTW...someone suggested using the tag NOTM for my birth parents showing they were not married. It's not supported under 5.5 standards anywhere :-) Steven R. Page <--hopefully sorted out! Got a business? Got a hobby? Need a WEB PAGE Designed or maintained? Contact us and lets see what we can create for you! s.page@juno.com (or) SPage1957@aol.com

I received this from someone who is subscribed to the CALSANG list and just be aware of whats to come.... Sara Greer To: CALOSANG-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CALOSANG-L] BE AWARE! I felt this was important enough to post. Hope you feel the same........ > >As we enter this New Year of 1999 I am a bit concerned about the future of >genealogical research on the Internet as we now know it. I am concerned >that we could be falling on hard times when it comes to the sharing and >FREE exchange of data including our mailing lists, GenConnect Boards, US >and World GenWeb and the Archives for these projects, IIGS, and many other >projects run largely by volunteers. > >The developments over the past few months and years in which Banner Blue >AND Parsons were swallowed up by Broderbund, and then Broderbund was >swallowed up once again by The Learning Company, who also gobbled up >Palladium Interactive (producers of Ultimate Family Tree); and The >Learning Company just now being taken over by Mattel--all serve to put us >in the very bad situation in which approximately 85% of the >genealogy-related programs and data are falling into the hands of of this >one huge company. In addition Ancestry (another for- profit business) >just sold 30% of their company to CMG (a venture capital company) for >$10,000,000. This is money on top of the $60/year they get from "tens of >thousands of subscribers" (from the Wall Street Journal). The venture >capitalists will be expecting a large return for their investment--which >will be paid for by us genealogists. > >All of this puts both Ancestry and Mattel in a very powerful position of >being able to buy datasets of information (thus acquiring exclusive rights >to those datasets) and sell them at inflated prices to the public who >believe this is the only way things can be done. This move is already well >under way. The more people paying top dollar for the information either >through subscription, or the purchase of CDs, the more money the powerful >for-profit companies will have to again purchase the rights to additional >records and books. > >The longterm goal of the many volunteer workers, and of RootsWeb which >hosts many of the projects, is to provide free access to genealogical >information. I know it has the folks at RootsWeb VERY troubled right now >that they do not have the resources to stop this avalanche of vital >records and publications being purchased and removed from FREE public >access for all time. In order to stop the flow of this information into >the hands of the large companies it would be necessary for RootsWeb to >purchase them and then offer them for free access to all of us on their >Web space. They would like very much to accomplish this before it is >forever too late to do so. While the access to the information is FREE, >it is far from FREE acquiring the rights to the information in the first >place. All of the mergers and acquisitions of the past year or so create >a very serious threat to the continuance of genealogical research on the >Internet as we now know it and as most of us believe it should be in the >future. We are no longer playing on a level playing field. I think >everyone needs to give this matter serious thought as we start the New >Year. Everyone needs to decide what they want the future of Internet >genealogy to be and then support what they feel is the correct approach. > >We need to examine our goals and what we would LIKE to see for the future >of Internet genealogy. Do we want to see a future where all genealogical >source materials must be bought and paid top dollar for, or would we >rather see the information put online at non-subscription Web sites so >that future genealogists can access them freely? It may already be too >late with the recent mergers and acquisitions creating such large powerful >companies with deep pockets that are very difficult to match on a dollar >for dollar basis. I think everyone doing genealogical research on the >Internet needs to consider whether they would like to support the efforts >of RootsWeb with a small contribution of $12 (more would be even better) >or whether they would like to see the world of the future of genealogy >dominated by the large for-profit companies who can sell the same data >(and hold exclusive rights to it) at whatever the market will support. >Some serious food for thought for the coming New Year! > >I will now get off my soapbox and promise not to be so "preachy" again >very soon, but I feel this matter is an important one to us all and today >seemed the appropriate time to discuss it with all of you. > >Happy New Year! > >Joan M. Young, Administrator >Geiger GenConnect Boards >Queries: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Geiger >Bible Records:>>

Does anyone have an Amy PAGE in their lineage? I know almost nothing about her, except she's listed as married to Delucena BACKUS, probably between 1800-1850 in New York, possibly Steuben co, or a surrounding county of New York. I know this is really stretching, but one never knows! Thanks so much, Renee is Fallbrook, CA genelady@aol.com

Well guys, so far the views have been pretty mixed as to how to list myself on the tree. With so many different people coming up with so many different ways to list or not list someone, it's no wonder people have problems finding someone! Many are forgetting the fact that I was born with a different surname than my natural father's and the surname given was not a bloodline of mine. Then I was adopted by a third person and given that surname. It's the name I was given at birth that is creating the problem - not where or how to link my natural father or adoptive father to me. On the other hand, it also looks like many are offering suggestions as to how to enter the data into this or that program rather than telling me how to link myself in the "raw" gedcom (minus any program except a text editor). Doesn't anyone edit gedcom's manually anymore? Cite being that many are using FTM but the problem is that not "everyone" uses it. FTM creates proprietary extension tags through a schematic that is not recognized with other programs. I am sure other software out there has their own unique spin that adds a field of info that is not shared by another program. And if you try entering a FTM generated gedcom into a older program, the marriages and children will be unlinked due to those extensions within the FAM group area. This is why I like to edit my gedcom manually to get rid of the garbage and get back to basics. Yet, it is still conforms version 5.5 standards. Steven (Czar) Page Steven Page Got a business? Got a hobby? Need a WEB PAGE Designed or maintained? Contact us and lets see what we can create for you! s.page@juno.com (or) SPage1957@aol.com

Hi Page listers: Does anyone have this Abigail PAGE in their lineage? Abigail PAGE married to Joseph KILGORE --they had at least one daughter Betsey who married Jeremy EASTMAN the son of Richard & Sarah Abbott EASTMAN. Betsey & Jeremy EASTMAN'S dau. Abigail b. 26 Sept 1798 in Fryeburg, Oxford, ME married 29 Mar 1819 Lovell, Oxford, ME to Thaddeus BEMIS s/o Thaddeus & Judith DAY BEMIS, b. 7 Dec 1791 in Fryeburg, Oxford, ME. Luana Johnson tlj2@northerntel.net

Anne PAGE ca. 1623-1665 married Thomas KEMBLE ca. 1616-1689 and had a son Thomas KEMBLE born 1645 in London, England. Do you know her? Leonard J. McAllister Mililani, HI

Anyone working on PAGE surname from Sampson County, NC and Cumberland Co, NC? Steven Page Got a business? Got a hobby? Need a WEB PAGE Designed or maintained? Contact us and lets see what we can create for you! s.page@juno.com (or) SPage1957@aol.com ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

PLEASE HELP!!! I have a sticky situation on how to list someone in a tree that I am preparing to send off to the LDS but wonder the "proper" way to include them - and that person is ME! My mother is on her 3rd marriage. After she divorced her second husband (HOUSTMAN) in 1951, she moved to another state, met someone, was engaged to them (HOFSTETTER), had me in 1957 not married to her fiancee, he left for another woman. Instead of giving me my natural father's last name she gave me the one of her ex-husband! Later, she met her 3rd husband and married him in 1958. He adopted me in 1962 giving me his last name. If you go to vitals and try to find my birth record it will be under my adopted name (PAGE). So my dilemma is this...though I know my natural father's name but was given a last name of a man I am not related to, then later adopted by my natural mother's 3rd husband - what surname do I give myself on the tree????? 1) HOFSTETTER - natural father 2) HOUSTMAN - name born under, not related, and no vitals will show because... 3) PAGE - adopted name This is where I was asking if someone could help with the ADOP tag within the gedcom file and where to place it. But then I have these other twists! To top it all off, my father (stepfather) was given the surname PAGE when he was born but his natural father was a HOBBS. His mother later married that man. How do I link him properly to his mother's second husband (his natural father) and her first husband (his family name)? Steven Page Got a business? Got a hobby? Need a WEB PAGE Designed or maintained? Contact us and lets see what we can create for you! s.page@juno.com (or) SPage1957@aol.com ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

I am searching for information on Nicholas Murrell Page and his family. According to my grandmother he was b. 2 Nov 1810 in Nelson Co, Va and d. 24 Jan 1902 in Albemarle Co. Va. He was son of Samuel B.Page and Elizabeth Smith I think and grandson of Robert Page and Mary Janet Murrell (also, I think) Most of this I have from a cousin and the family Bible. My information is very sparse. Please fill me in if you can. Thanks- Page Lee

Good afternoon everyone from cold, and soon to be colder Virginia! Well, the year is almost over. Only 363 days left :-) Have a question for the gedcom gurus out there that possibly create their's manually. I am using a program that generates a version 5.3 gedcom instead of the current 5.5. Beside the HEAD and SUBM info is not correct, it also uses a MISC tag for other info which apparently not supported in 5.5 So...I am having to manually edit lines of info to bring it up to standard. I have figured out some of the tags used but have a question about one I saw on the list but don't know where to place it. ADOP (Adoption). Do you place this tag under the person who was adopted, the person who did the adoption or both? And how do you link the two? And is this tag really used by the LDS center or other software? I have my doubts about BURI and OCCU as well. Steven Page Got a business? Got a hobby? Need a WEB PAGE Designed or maintained? Contact us and lets see what we can create for you! s.page@juno.com (or) SPage1957@aol.com ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]