Hi fellow genealogists: For several years, I have been having trouble finding the father’s name for a couple of my known ancestors. Before 1850, it is quite difficult to match children with their father. So, I asked my ‘cousins’ on the net to send me names of any documents, papers, Certificates, or licenses, that would be likely to list the father’s name. I am very pleased to say that the ‘cousins’ came through. At least 25 people sent from 3 to 20 suggestions. I promised to make a list and send it to everyone who wants one. So here it goes. I can not verify all of these ideas personally, but I think that you will be surprised by the many fantastic suggestions---and if you can’t trust your friendly genealogist, then……….. 1. Birth Records 2 Marriage Records and Certificates 3 Death Records 4 Wills 5 Mortality Schedules ---- US Census, for one year previous to census taking in 1850, 60,70, and 80 6 Census records after 1850 7 Tax lists 8 Some land deeds 9 Ships passenger lists and immigration records 10 Military and Pension papers. 11 Newspapers, (obits, weddings, and local references to people. Like: small town Chatty Columns 12 Biographies in County Histories 13 Cemetery Burial Records 14 Baptisms and Christenings from church records 15 Visitation pedigrees in England 16 Old school records 17 Family Bibles, and family letters 18 Personal letters or interviews 19 DAR records in Wash. DC 20 Publications of family histories 21 Apprentice Contracts 22 Guardianship records for certain states 23 Social Security Application forms ‘SS5’ (issued in the 1930’s) 24 Father or mother had applied for assistance from the state 25 Voters roles and voter registrations 26 Tombstones in family areas 27 1855, 1865,1875, 1880 State Census for some states 28 Military enlistment records 29 Personal diaries and journals 30 Doctor’s and dentist’s and other medical records. 31 City directories I would like to thank everyone, especially the following who contributed so many ideas. (in no particular order) Spirit, Karen Bush, Rose Casey, Connie Putnam, George W. Page, Patricia Danby, and Sid Emmons, Hope this helps in your search. Ed

` I've studied these North Carolina records until I'm blue in the face trying to make sense of the various Williams, Johns and Josephs in the third generation of this branch down from John PAGE, Sr. and his wife Hannah. However, I'm going to make a stab at piecing these families together. If any of you have different ideas, I hope that you will feel free to post them for discussion here. Children of William & Jean(y) PAGE (J-1) William and Jean(y) PAGE had six children. The baptisms of four of them appear in the Douglas Register. J-1-1 Joseph PAGE He was b. 23 Dec 1755 and bp'd 17 Jan 1756 in Goochland Co., VA.(1) It is not known who, where or when he married. In early years, before the death of his uncle Joseph, this Joseph was called Joseph PAGE, Jr.. I believe that he was the Joseph PAGE, Junr. who received a grant of 150 acres of land in Pitt Co., NC in 1782. The land was described as being on the S. side of the Tarr River.(2) Joseph sold 100 acres of this land to Melchesdeck PAGE in 1786.(3) The other 50 acres was sold by this Joseph's son, William PAGE (with two other tracts of land) to Levi MESSER in 1813.(4) The 1790 Census lists two Joseph PAGE men in Newbern District, Pitt Co., NC and it is difficult to determine which is the older one, the son of John PAGE, Sr. (J-1) and this one. In this census, the only age categories given for the males in each family were "age 16 and up including heads of families" and "under age 16". The families of both have a number of children in them. However, one Joseph PAGE was shown next to William PAGE in the census and, because the description of Joseph, Jr.'s land grant of 1782 was described partly as bordering the land of William Page and was on the south side of the Tarr River, it would be my guess that the Joseph next to William PAGE in this 1790 Census was this one. J-1-2 William PAGE, Jr. He was b. 27 Dec 1757 and bp'd 22 Jan 1758 in Goochland Co., VA.(5) He died on 17 Sep 1830 in Pitt Co., NC.(6) He is said to have md. Rhody/ Rhoda LANGLEY. She may have been a daughter of the Azaniah LANGLEY whose name appears right next to that of William PAGE, Sr. (J-1) in the 1790 Census of Newbern District, Pitt Co., NC and whose estate was settled in Edgecombe Co., NC in 1802. Rhody PAGE, wife of William PAGE was named as one of his heirs.(7) William had land in both Pitt and Edgecombe Cos., NC. In 1782, he was issued NC Land Grant #2039 in Edgecombe Co. for "200 acres of land on both sides of the Stirrup Iron Branch Joining the County line and the lines of JOSEPH SULLIVEN and HENRY GAY".(8) William sold this land to Hezekiah LANGLEY in 1789.(9) It would appear that William's wife, Rhody, had died sometime between when the 1820 and 1830 Census was taken as William appears in the latter census giving his age as 70-80, but there is no female of an age to be his wife in his household. NOTES (1) Douglas: 265. "Will: Page & Jeanie Stevens" were given as the parents. (2) "Page in NC": 617. The chain carriers for the survey were William Page and John Powers. (Pitt Co., NC Deed Bk. C, p. 94) (3) Ibid.: 623. Witnesses to this deed were "?Jerat Eason" and William Page. (Pitt Co., NC Deed Bk. L, p. 123) (4) Ibid.: 652. (Pitt Co., NC Deed Bk. 5, p. 131) (5) Douglas: 265. "William and Jean Pages" were given as the parents. (6) Information from Family Tree Maker's World Family Tree as received from Pat Langwehr who cautions that these records should be checked before being accepted. This is true of any records one has not verified personally. (7) "The PAGE Family: Unique Route from Virginia to Texas" written and compiled by Fae Alice Etheredge, 1974. Information from this book was supplied by Pat Landwehr of Missouri City, TX. (8) "Page in NC": 63. The chain bearers for the survey of this land were Wm. Page, Sen. and Azaniah Langley. It was described as being on Stirrup Iron Branch and bordering the lands of Joseph Sullivan and Henry Gay. (9) Ibid.: 64. The witnesses to this deed were Josiah LANGLEY and Joseph PAGE. The description of this land matches the previous land. (Edgecombe Co., NC Deed Bk. 5, p. 435) (next time - Children of William & Jeany PAGE cont'd) (J-1)

I am searching for ancestors of Samuel Page, born ca1770, died ca 1825. Married to Hannah Cornell, born ca 1773 died ca 1851. When Samuel died Hannah married David House. We think Samuel lived in Vermont and New Hampshire as well as in New York before moving to Middleport, Gainsborough Township, Lincoln County, Ontario, Canada in 1818-1820.. Canada . He is believed to be buried in Dundas Cemetary, Ontario. We think he or his parents may have been loyalists. There are old records of this Page family in the Beamsville Baptist Church. They had 7 children as follows: Margaret b 1790 Married James Van Valkenburgh b 1788 John b 1792 married Martha ? (Died) Remarried Amy D. James Dowlin b 1801 married Mary Fisher (English) Rozann (Rosanna) b 1802 married Andrew Shiner Rebecca b 1806 Nancy b 1807 married John Van Valkenburgh Nathaniel b 1807 married Wealthy Matilda Peck Tracing this common name is difficult. I will appreciate any help anyone can give me. The Canadian records are good but they to not tell us anything about Samuel's parents. Tom Mericle tpmmsi@monitor.net .

I just found the following message posted by Donna Mullen d.m.mullen@worldnet.att.net on the Allegan County, MI website. I hope Donna doesn't mind that I post it. Perhaps someone on this list can help Donna. Thanks to all, Brenda Page Hare PAGE/CHURCH Searching for the birth record of my gr-gr-grandmother Harriet Page, the daughter of:Nathaniel and Wealthy PAGE. Other children of this family include: James L. Page, Rosanna Page, Ephraim Page, John Page,Sarah Page, Mary Page, Franklin Page, Charles Page, George W. Page and William Page; all born between 1831-1857. The PAGE family was in Kent County in the 1840 Census. They had family in Portage, Kalamazoo Co. By 1860, the family had settled in Breedsville/Columbia, Van Buren County.Rosanna Page married abt 1850 to another Kent County resident, Reuben (Rubin) CHURCH. Their children include: Mathilda, Harlan, Mary, Jefferson and Alice - all born between 1851-1859.Any information on the PAGE or CHURCH families would be appreciated.

At 07:45 PM 5/7/1999 -0700, you wrote: > Hi everyone: I know that this is a crazy question but I have two or >three lost fathers. Question: Please name all of the documents, papers, >Certs, etc. where I can find the "father" of an individual. > Please send me as many leads as you can, no matter how obvious or >ridiculous you think they are, and I will compile them and send a list to >everyone. Then I will use the info to try to find my three illusive >fathers. Ed > The names of fathers associated with their children are often found in the following documents, not all of which are primary sources: Obits; Wills; Death Certificates (of children); Marriage licenses (of children); Bios in County Histories written in the 1800's; Local history books and manuscripts; Cemetery Burial Records; Baptisms and christening information in church or ministerial records; Federal Census records from 1850 which enumerated the household members; Visitation pedigrees in England; some school alumni records, especially in England; Bible Records, especially the large collection of the DAR in Washington, D.C.; old family letters and manuscripts; College of Arms records and books about coats-of-arms; personal interviews; publications of respected and reliable genealogists that are printed in NGS, NEH&GS, etc. publications; and genealogical books and publications of family history authors found on the Internet and in Federal, State, and local libraries such as The Library of Congress, NGS, NEH&GS, and the Genealogical Society of Utah and its branches. George W. Page

In a message dated 5/7/99 7:51:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, edchel@televar.com writes: << Hi everyone: I know that this is a crazy question but I have two or three lost fathers. Question: Please name all of the documents, papers, Certs, etc. where I can find the "father" of an individual. Please send me as many leads as you can, no matter how obvious or ridiculous you think they are, and I will compile them and send a list to everyone. Then I will use the info to try to find my three illusive fathers. Ed >> Well now Ed just how did you lose those three fathers? I only have two and one of those is my step father. All kidding aside....for the time being....it depends upon the time periods. I've found fathers and the even more illusive maiden names of mothers on vital statistic documents: birth, death, and marriage and my all time favorite is SS5, the social security application forms .... SS cards were issued in the 1930s....and the application form seems to be more likely to have accurate information....no one has to fudge their age to get married or mixed up at time of death. Cemetery and burial records and obits are other sources...and news articles especially in small town chatty journals. I've also found a lot of relatives through the census some even before 1850 when all the names of the family were finally entered....through process of elimination and through lots of cranking of the old microfilms and even through the published books of census listings orlocal county histories. I've also found that it really pays to collect collateral family information....one of my grandfather's brothers had a bio written which gave lots of family background that I never would have found if I had just stuck with researching my direct line. I've also heard that in the earlier years it pays to follow neighbors because yes indeed neighbors as well as family moved together, hung out and married etc...... In short, I guess where ever names may be found....and there are lots more places that are not so obvious.....a clue may be found. In one of the KY tips articles written by Sandra Gorin, I believe, the name of the witness and surity on marriage bonds and on sales of property were often family. Good luck....connie

Hi everyone: I know that this is a crazy question but I have two or three lost fathers. Question: Please name all of the documents, papers, Certs, etc. where I can find the "father" of an individual. Please send me as many leads as you can, no matter how obvious or ridiculous you think they are, and I will compile them and send a list to everyone. Then I will use the info to try to find my three illusive fathers. Ed

At 05:36 PM 5/7/1999 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Harriet and other researchers on the list. I'm trying to catch >up...again...and lost the beginning of this thread if indeed it is a thread. > I'm interested in learning more about JPs, what sort of qualifications were >required to become a Justice of the Peace, and even what was their role and >the functions they performed. I have several in my family lines and they did >not appear to have formal legal training, nor were they of a religious >nature....but they certainly did perform marriages. Was this their primary >role? >Connie .... Falls Church VA > ______________ Hi Connie: Justices of the Peace were part of our English Common Law heritage. These men were of better than average education with some knowledge of English Common Law through either formal or informal training/education. They were commissioned by the legal powers that existed in the counties such as Judges of the Orphans Court or court of Common Pleas. There role was to hear and resolve minor civil complaints of the people in their township and they did perform civil marriages (just like the ones done in Las Vegas), no doubt for a fee. They often served in other capacities such as school teachers or shop keepers. Because of their official duties they often made enemies of people who received adverse adjudications from them. One of my FANAGAN ancestors was a Justice of the Peace in Hopewell Twp. of Bedford Co., Penn. a few years after he arrived from Ireland about 1801. He was found dead floating face down in a mill pond on Yellow Creek, Hopewell Twp. in 1809, so the poor man didn't even appear in either the 1800 or the 1810 Federal Census! The mill was owned by the father of the man (a Welsh blacksmith) who married his widow, moved into his house, raised his kids, and assumed his duties as Justice of the Peace. George W. Page

Hi Harriet and other researchers on the list. I'm trying to catch up...again...and lost the beginning of this thread if indeed it is a thread. I'm interested in learning more about JPs, what sort of qualifications were required to become a Justice of the Peace, and even what was their role and the functions they performed. I have several in my family lines and they did not appear to have formal legal training, nor were they of a religious nature....but they certainly did perform marriages. Was this their primary role? Connie .... Falls Church VA ~~~~snip Re: Fw: [CAFRESNO-L] Justice of the Peace as First Created in MaderaCo.1893

What a wonderful synopsis not only of the research you have accomplished but also snippits showing the process. Well done. I only wish that I could connect them with my James Daniel Page b. about 1825 in Roxbury Mass. [There was a Page sail maker in the 1840 census records]. Good luck on your future research. Connie Falls Church VA.

Thanks to Dan Page and Gordon W. Pace for sending me messages correcting the names and dates of the children of Mary Ann PAGE and Joseph PACE. These births were actually in The Douglas Register and when I checked back on it, I found that I had written "PACE" in the margin of these entries in that book....but I only looked for the PACE spelling (p. 263) when I wrote Part #33. It seems that Mrs. Mehrkens erred in the listing that I used. I didn't even notice the thirty-odd years difference in the birthdates of the children from her records! Tish! Tish! Here is the correct listing of those children: Children of Joseph PACE & Mary Ann PAGE (R-2) R-2-1 Robert PACE He was b. 19 Oct and bp'd 20 Nov 1763 in Goochland Co., VA.(1) He md. Frances TUGGLE (dau. of Henry TUGGLE and his wf. Ellender CONNELLY on 5 Jan 1790 in Goochland Co..(2) Henry TUGGLE was b. in Middlesex Co., VA, the son of Henry TUGGLE, Jr. (1699-1733) and his wife Mary GODBEY (dau. of Edward GODBEY and his wf. Frances). Mary Godbey TUGGLE md. 2) Daniel BASKETT in Middlesex Co. and moved to Goochland Co. with a number of other Middlesex Co. families. (3) R-2-2 Ann PACE She was b. 29 Apr and bp'd 8 June 1766 in Goochland Co., VA.(4) R-2-3 Joseph PACE He was b. 28 May and bp'd 3 Jul 1768 in Goochland Co., VA. (5) He is no doubt the Joseph PACE who md. Elizabeth CLEMENTS, dau. of John, in Goochland Co. on 28 Jan 1795.(6) R-2-4 Jean PACE She was b. 24 Aug and bp'd 30 Sep 1770 in Goochland Co., VA. (7) R-2-5 John PACE He was b. 26 Sep 1773 and bp'd on 7 Nov 1774.(8) Could this bp. date of 1774 be wrong? It seems like a long time between the birth and the baptism. R-2-6 Josiah PACE He was b. 23 Sep and bp'd 3 Nov 1776.(9) If this isn't correct, I hope that someone will please enlighten us on it. NOTES (1) Douglas: 274. The parents are listed as "Joseph Pierce & Marianne Page". (2) Williams: 69. The marr. bond was filed on 4 Jan 1790 with the "surety" being John Lee. This is no doubt the John Lee who md. Jane Tuggle, sister of Frances, the bride of Robert PACE. The marriage of Robert and Frances is also given in the Goochland Co., VA Deed Bk. 15, p. 385 and 452. (3) Records of these families can be found in the book "The Parish Register of Christ Church, Middlesex County, Va. from 1653 to 1812" publ. by The National Society of the Colonial Dames of America in the State of Virginia and reprinted by the Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc. of Baltimore, MD, 1975. (4) Douglas: 274. The parents are listed as "Joseph Peace & Marianne Page". (5) Douglas: 274. The parents are listed as "Joseph Pearse & Marianne Page". (6) Williams: 69. The marr. bond was filed on 19 Jan 1795 with the "surety" being John Guerrant, Jr.. They were md. by Rev. Lewis Chaudoin. (7) Douglas: 274. The parents are listed as "Joseph Pearse & Marianna Page". (8) Douglas: 274. The parents are listed as "Joseph Pearse & Maryanne Page". (9) Douglas: 274. The parents are listed as "Joseph Pierce & Marianne Page".

` Children of John PAGE, Sr. & wf. Hannah ? (J) John PAGE, Sr. (J) was discussed in Part #5 of this series. Where did John PAGE, Sr. and his family go when they left Goochland Co., VA ca. 1766-1767? The whereabouts of John and his sons for the next seven years are a mystery to me as of now. He may have moved to some other county in Virginia or North Carolina. It would be difficult to find them before 1774 without searching the tax, deed and court records of many other counties in both States. Since the time period of 1767 through 1773 would be involved, the "Tithable Lists" of the Virginia counties would appear to be a good place to search for them. However, these lists are missing for most of the Virginia counties and, by the time the Personal Property Lists began (1782), we know that most of his family (and possibly him and his wife as well) were in North Carolina. I have done very little research into the North Carolina records, therefore much of the following information is derived from census and the research of others. A main source for this is the excellent book "The Page Family in North Carolina, 1685-1850" compiled by Jesse M. Page, Jr., 1987. This is not a family history of the various PAGE families in that State. It is rather a compilation of census, land and some court records for this name in 44 of the counties.(1) Through the Goochland Co., VA records of John and Hannah's family, census records of North Carolina, the records in Mr. Page's book and information supplied to me by some family researchers on this line the following information on this family is offered for consideration.(2) The earliest North Carolina record that can definitely be traced to any of John's family is in Pitt Co. in 1774 when records of them begin to appear there. These records seem to indicate that John and Hannah were with them. They were getting along in age by this time and may have lived with one of their sons. There are many deeds involving John PAGEs, but it is not always evident from them as to whether they were for John PAGE, Sr., his son of the same name or the third generation men of that same first name. However, many of the earliest deeds appear to belong to the son, John Jr. and his son, John. Just when John PAGE, Sr. died is not clear. In 1800, Hannah PAGE (probably John, Sr.'s wife) and Wm. BOWERS were the only two witnesses to two deeds involving the heirs of Joseph PAGE, the son of John and Hannah PAGE.(3) This must be the wife (or widow?) of John PAGE, Sr. formerly of Goochland Co., VA. No other record of a Hannah PAGE appears in these records that Mr. Page has in his book and it is known that John and Hannah PAGE's dau., Hannah, had married, lived in a different NC county and was dead by this time. The only other Hannah found in the family of John and Hannah PAGE was a dau. of their son William and this Hannah was married by then---so this could not have been her. When these deeds were proven in court in 1802, only Wm. BOWERS appeared to do this and the deeds were accepted for recording. Most Virginia counties required at least three witnesses to a deed and two of them had to come to court and "prove" that they had witnessed the signatures on it (if it was not proved by the grantors themselves) before it could be recorded. It appears that North Carolina only required two witnesses and that, usually, two of the witnesses would have to attest to the signatures on the deed in order to prove it to be recorded. However, these two deeds were accepted for recording with only one witness. Could Hannah have been dead by 1802? This may also mean that John PAGE, Sr. was dead by 1800. Since Jesse M. Page did not include any wills from Pitt Co. in his book, a search of the will records of that county might solve the question as to just when John PAGE, Sr. died. By the 1780's, records of John and Hannah's descendants also begin appearing in the neighboring Edgecombe and Martin Counties, NC and some of the land lay in both Edgecombe and Pitt Counties. Since North Carolina is unfamiliar research territory for me, it is hoped that any errors in the following posting of this family will be corrected by those in the "know". John PAGE, Sr. and his wife had the following children who were discussed briefly in Part #5 of this series, but the following can be added about them. J-1 William PAGE William's birthdate is estimated as ca. 1731-32 as he was first listed in the Goochland Co., VA "Tithable Lists" with his father in 1748.(4) He was md. to Jean(y) STEVENTON in Goochland Co. sometime before 23 Dec 1751, the date of the birth of their first child.(5) Although married, William continued to be taxed with his father until 1757, when he first appears in his own household. In 1761, his father gave him 150 acres of land on Lickinghole Creek in Goochland Co. adjoining the 100 acres that the father had given to his son, John, Jr. at the same time.(6) According to the court records, William owed a debt to Alexander Baine, a merchant in the area. His father may have paid the debt and taken back the land. A deed from William to his father is alluded to in the court records of Goochland Co. although no such record is found in the deed books of that county.(7) However, it is evident that this 150 acres, along with the 100 acres that John PAGE, Sr. had deeded to his son, John, Jr. was sold by John, Sr. to William BRITT in 1767, just before the family moved away from Goochland Co.. The description of the land in this latter deed matches that of the two deeds to John, Sr.'s sons John and William.(8) 1766 is the last year that William appears in the Goochland Co., VA "Tithable Lists". The next record found for him is a deed showing that he purchased 100 acres of land in Pitt Co., NC from John AUTRY of Cumberland Co., NC in 1774.(9) William continued to purchase more land and receive land grants for even more land in that area. The 1790 Census of Pitt Co., NC shows only one William PAGE in Newberry District. William PAGE 3 males 16+ 2 males -16 3 females 1 slave Since there was only one William PAGE in this county this year, perhaps we can conclude that this was William PAGE, Sr. and his other four sons were living with him this year. One of the three females was evidently his wife and, of the other two, one could have been his daughter and one could have been the wife of one of his sons....or the other two women may have been wives of his sons. William PAGE evidently died sometime before 10 Mar 1807 when his son, James PAGE, sold the land that his father had willed to him.(10). William's will can probably be obtained from Pitt Co., NC. NOTES (1) "The Page Family in North Carolina, 1685-1850 by Jesse M. Page, Jr., 1987. Jesse M. Page, Jr., Raleigh, N.C.. This book will henceforth be referred to as "PAGE in NC". (2) Pat Langwehr has supplied information from a manuscript titled "The Page Family: Unique Route From Virginia to Texas" by Fae Alice Etheredge, 1975. Pat subscribes to the PAGE-L. (3) "PAGE in NC": 638-640. (4) Rutherford-Tithable Lists: 1. (5) Douglas: 265. Jean is called Jean, Jeanie and Jeany and her last name is shown as Stevens and Steventon in the birth records of their children in this book, but it is known that her maiden name was Steventon. The Elizabeth Steventon who md. William Page's brother, Joseph, was no doubt related to her, possibly a sister. (6) Rutherford-Deeds: 6. (Goochland Co., VA Deed Bk. 8, p. 142) (7) Rutherford-Court: 7. (Goochland Co., VA Court Order Bk. 10, p. 1) Thomas Starke and Sherod Harris prove a deed from Wm. Page to John Page. (June Ct. 1765) (8) Rutherford-Deeds: 8. (Goochland Co., VA Deed Bk. 9, p. 117) John Page, Jr. also evidently lost his 100 acres and it appears that his father paid off his mortgage of this land and took it back. See NOTE # (9) "Page in NC": 614. (Pitt Co., NC Deed Bk. F, p. 56) (10) "Page in NC": 648. (Pitt Co., NC Deed Bk. R, p. 127) This was four tracts of land containing 100, 20, 10 and 37 acres. (next time - the children of William & Jeany PAGE) (J-1)

Hello, I'm reposting some of my Page data in the hope that someone may recognise a link.... Regards...Robert Page, Houston, TX Descendants of JOHN PAGE Generation No. 1 1. JOHN2 PAGE was born Bef. 1698. He married MARY Bef. 1719. She was born Bef. 1703. Children of JOHN PAGE and MARY are: i. MARY3 PAGE, b. January 1719. More About MARY PAGE: Bapt: January 20, 1719, at age 13 days, St Mary, Rotherhithe 2. ii. GEORGE PAGE, b. Abt. November 1722. iii. SARAH PAGE, b. October 1724. More About SARAH PAGE: Bapt: November 20, 1724, At age 22 days, St Mary, Rotherhithe iv. ELIZABETH PAGE, b. January 16, 1727. More About ELIZABETH PAGE: Bapt: January 17, 1727, At age 1 day, St Mary, Rotherhithe Note: Baptised day after birth - probably sickly.. Generation No. 2 2. GEORGE3 PAGE (JOHN2, SAME1 PARENTS?) was born Abt. November 1722. He married JANE. More About GEORGE PAGE: Bapt: December 14, 1722, St Mary, Rotherhithe Note: George may not be the same as Gge son of John & Mary - need to prove parents. Children of GEORGE PAGE and JANE are: 3. i. JOHN4 PAGE, b. January 1749. ii. GEORGE PAGE, b. June 1752. More About GEORGE PAGE: Bapt: July 1, 1752, At age 4 days, St Mary, Rotherhithe. Baptised quickly - perhaps sickly? Note: A burial of a George Page is recorded at St Mary's in 1753.. Generation No. 3 3. JOHN4 PAGE (GEORGE3, JOHN2, SAME1 PARENTS?) was born January 1749. He married MARY Bef. 1775 but details not located in St Marys, Rotherhithe registers. Notes for JOHN PAGE: Note that if this is the incorrect John Page, then a possible alternative is John Page baptised 17 April 1745, of parents Thomas Page and Susannah. However, naming patterns suggest I have the right one - but yet to be proved. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------- More About JOHN PAGE: Bapt: February 12, 1749, At age23 days, St Mary, Rotherhithe Generation: J SRN: 1 Children of JOHN PAGE and MARY are: i. JANE5 PAGE, b. Abt. March 23, 1775. More About JANE PAGE: Bapt: April 20, 1775, St Mary, Rotherhithe ii. THOMAS PAGE, b. Abt. August 16, 1776. More About THOMAS PAGE: Bapt: September 8, 1776, St Mary's Rotherhithe, aged 22 days1 Note: A Thomas Page, carpenters child, was buried at Roth. St Mary in June 1782. Same? 4. iii. JOSHUA PAGE, b. Abt. July 20, 1780, Rotherhithe area, London, England. iv. CHARLES PAGE, b. Abt. April 19, 1782. More About CHARLES PAGE: Bapt: May 8, 1782, St Marys, Rotherhithe, at 19 days1 v. MARY ANN PAGE, b. Abt. May 15, 1784. More About MARY ANN PAGE: Bapt: June 6, 1784, St Mary's Rotherhithe, at age 22 days1 vi. JOHN PAGE, b. December 1788. Notes for JOHN PAGE: John may have married in early 20s, ie about 1810. It is interesting to note in the IGI a series of children born in the period 1812-1826 to parents John Page and Elizabeth. All being christened at Rotherhithe St Mary.... Elizabeth (1812), John (1813), William (1815), George (1817), Ann Harriet (1823), and Margaret (1826). More About JOHN PAGE: Bapt: January 11, 1789, At age 30 days, St Mary, Rotherhithe Note: See notes for possible wife/children.. Generation No. 4 4. JOSHUA5 PAGE (JOHN4, GEORGE3, JOHN2, SAME1 PARENTS?) was born Abt. July 20, 1780 in Rotherhithe area, London, England. He married ANN(E) (33) Bef. 1804. She was born Bef. 1788. More About JOSHUA PAGE: Bapt: August 18, 1780, St Mary's Rotherhithe, aged 29 days2 Generation: I Occup'n: Sailmaker SRN: 1 Notes for ANN(E) (33): There is an Ann Page buried in Deptford St Nicholas in 1818, but probably not this Ann as Thomas christened 1821. More About ANN(E) (33): Generation: I SRN: 33 Children of JOSHUA PAGE and ANN(E) (33) are: 5. i. JOSHUA JOHN6 PAGE, b. December 1804. ii. JANE PAGE, b. 1806, - Daughter of J+A of Church Street. More About JANE PAGE: Bapt: December 21, 1806, Deptford, St Paul3 6. iii. GEORGE PAGE, b. March 20, 1809, Deptford, London,England.; d. July 25, 1886, Belvedere Seamans Home (have death cert). iv. MARY ANN PAGE, b. 1812; d. 1835. Notes for MARY ANN PAGE: Found in IGI Jan 95 - presumed to be a daughter... More About MARY ANN PAGE: Bapt: January 26, 1812, St Paul, Deptford Burial: August 19, 1835, Deptford Parish registers Reference Item: IGI v. ANN PAGE, b. 1814. Notes for ANN PAGE: Photocopy of parish record seen at London Record Office. Baptism No. 218. Joshua's address given as the "Stowage" LCC Streets book of 1901 equates The Stowage to Church St, the Creek. More About ANN PAGE: Bapt: August 7, 1814, Deptford, St Nicholas.. Baptism #2184 Note: LCC streets book of 1901 equates The Stowage with Church St, the Creek vi. JOHN PAGE, b. 1817, Son of J+A of the Stowage. Notes for JOHN PAGE: Photocopy of original parish record seen at london record office St Nic baptism no. 638 Joshua's address still listed as the Stowage, and occupation as sailmaker. More About JOHN PAGE: Bapt: April 27, 1817, Deptford, St Nicholas.. Baptism #6385 7. vii. THOMAS PAGE, b. 1821. Generation No. 5 5. JOSHUA JOHN6 PAGE (JOSHUA5, JOHN4, GEORGE3, JOHN2, SAME1 PARENTS?) was born December 1804. He married HANNAH JUDGE April 19, 1827 in Deptford St Paul. She was born Abt. 1805. More About JOSHUA JOHN PAGE: Bapt: January 20, 1805, Rotherhithe St.Mary, at age 32 days.6 Occup'n: Fisherman Notes for HANNAH JUDGE: Wife and children deduced from IGI. treat as suspect until corroborated. More About HANNAH JUDGE: Note: Possibly chr 1805, Sothwark St Saviour, parents John Judge & Ann Children of JOSHUA PAGE and HANNAH JUDGE are: i. ANN SARAH7 PAGE, b. February 25, 1828. More About ANN SARAH PAGE: Abode at birth: Bridge St. Bapt: March 12, 1828, Greenwich, St. Alphege ii. JOSHUA PAGE, b. September 21, 1830. More About JOSHUA PAGE: Abode at birth: Little Thames St. Bapt: October 20, 1830, Greenwich, St Alfage iii. ROBERT PAGE, b. May 11, 1832. More About ROBERT PAGE: Abode at birth: Thames St. Bapt: June 4, 1832, Greenwich, St Alfage 8. iv. JOSEPH WILLIAM PAGE, b. Abt. 1835. v. ELIZA ANN PAGE, b. October 29, 1837. More About ELIZA ANN PAGE: Abode at birth: Lamb Lane Bapt: November 24, 1837, St Alphege, Greenwich Reference Item: IGI vi. BENJAMIN PAGE, b. June 2, 1851. More About BENJAMIN PAGE: Abode at birth: Bell St.. 6. GEORGE6 PAGE (JOSHUA5, JOHN4, GEORGE3, JOHN2, SAME1 PARENTS?) was born March 20, 1809 in Deptford, London,England., and died July 25, 1886 in Belvedere Seamans Home (have death cert). He married SUSANNAH JACKSON Abt. 1832 in No IGI listing of marriage located 1830-35., daughter of HENRY JACKSON and SUSANNAH POOLE. She was born November 28, 1812 in England. Notes for GEORGE PAGE: 1984 letter from Royal Alfred Seafarers Society confirms that George was a former Master, who became an inmate of the seamens institution in Belvedere on July 1st 1880 (age 71). A copy of register ticket shows he was 34 when ticketed, could write, showed his birth year as 1810 (not 1809), was 5ft 1.75 tall, with brown hair and hazel eyes. Also that he first went to sea as an apprentice in Aug 1824 (age 15). No navy service. Home address was No.1, Thames St, Greenwich. Masters ticket in 1857 (age 48). Death certificate gives cause of death as "Paraplegia Exhaustion" ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------- More About GEORGE PAGE: Bapt: April 16, 1809, Deptford St Paul (IGI)7 Burial: St John's, Erith (Brook St cemetery?) Cause of Death: Paraplegia Exhaustion Generation: H Note: 1876 descr as Fisherman ..chk 1841 cen Thames St, Gr. Check 1851/61 Greenwich. Occup'n: 1824: Fishing apprentice, 1834 Fishing Boat Master, 1843 Master Pleasure Yacht8 SRN: 1 Notes for SUSANNAH JACKSON: >1851 census of Thames Street, Greenwich Victoria House, Thames Street William Jackson/head/marr/35/Baker/Stepney (wondered if he is relative of your Susannah Jackson) Mary Jackson/wife/marr/25/Stepney Mary Jackson/Dau./1 yr/Shadwell More About SUSANNAH JACKSON: Bapt: January 1, 1813, Stepney St. Dunstan if parents are correctly identified in IGI Generation: H Note: Parents are guessed from IGI - yet to be confirmed. SRN: 65 Children of GEORGE PAGE and SUSANNAH JACKSON are: i. GEORGE JOHN7 PAGE, b. June 30, 1833. More About GEORGE JOHN PAGE: Abode at birth: Thames St. Bapt: October 28, 1833, Greenwich, St Alphege ii. JOHN PAGE, b. June 9, 1838. iii. ABRAHAM ROBERT PAGE, b. June 26, 1841. More About ABRAHAM ROBERT PAGE: Abode at birth: Thames St. Bapt: July 21, 1841, Greenwich, St Alphege iv. FRANCES HARRIET PAGE, b. October 22, 1844. Notes for FRANCES HARRIET PAGE: Bills notes say 1848, however IGI lists a Francis Harriet born 1844 (possibly died, and subsequent daughter named Frances also ?) More About FRANCES HARRIET PAGE: Abode at birth: Thames St. Bapt: November 17, 1844, Greenwich St Alphege v. JANE SUSSANAH PAGE, b. 1847. More About JANE SUSSANAH PAGE: Abode at birth: Woolwich Rd. vi. SARAH MARY PAGE, b. April 5, 1847. More About SARAH MARY PAGE: Abode at birth: Woolwich Rd. vii. THOMAS PAGE, b. November 25, 1850. More About THOMAS PAGE: Abode at birth: Hatcliffe Place Note: Witness at William's wedding. 9. viii. WILLIAM PAGE, b. October 7, 1856, near Anchor & Hope Pub, Charlton, Lewisham R.D.; d. June 13, 1910, Buried in Charlton Cemetry, london, England. 7. THOMAS6 PAGE (JOSHUA5, JOHN4, GEORGE3, JOHN2, SAME1 PARENTS?) was born 1821. He married EMILY Abt. 1845 in - 1855 ? Wife and 2 dau's guessed from IGI. Notes for THOMAS PAGE: Thomas added to database after finding him in IGI, 10/96. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- >1841 census of Thames Street, Greenwich Thomas Page/15/Fisherman/Born in County ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- More About THOMAS PAGE: Bapt: October 21, 1821, St Paul, Deptford Note: Lodger in Thames St in 1841. Occup'n: Fisherman (was he apprenticed abt 1836?) Children of THOMAS PAGE and EMILY are: i. EMILY PRISCILLA7 PAGE, b. Abt. 1858. More About EMILY PRISCILLA PAGE: Bapt: June 11, 1858, Deptford St Paul Note: Parents are Thomas page + Emily, but this Tho not proven. ii. ELIZA MARY PAGE, b. Abt. 1868. More About ELIZA MARY PAGE: Bapt: November 1, 1868, Deptford St Paul Note: Parents are Thomas page + Emily, but this Tho not proven.. Generation No. 6 8. JOSEPH WILLIAM7 PAGE (JOSHUA JOHN6, JOSHUA5, JOHN4, GEORGE3, JOHN2, SAME1 PARENTS?) was born Abt. 1835. Notes for JOSEPH WILLIAM PAGE: Note that other children of Joshua and hannah are listed in Greenwich St Alfege birth register, but apparently not Joseph - need to confirm this, and also confirm his parentage. Josephs marriage might be the following one located in the IGI..... Joseph Wm Page md. Eliza "Allen" Bonney, Nov. 7th 1868 at St Phillip the Apostle, Stepney. Two possiblities for Elizabeth Bonney have also been found.... a) Eliza Ann Bonny, chr 15 April 1838, St Mary whitechapel, of parents William Finch Bonny and Eliz. b) Eliza Eleanor Bonny, chr 1835 at St Leonards, shoreditch, of parents Charles Groombridge Bonny and Eliza. Her brother, Charles Roger Bonny, was christened 1837, also at St Leonards. More About JOSEPH WILLIAM PAGE: Bapt: June 5, 1835, St Nicholas, Deptford Child of JOSEPH WILLIAM PAGE is: i. HERBERT ERNEST8 PAGE, b. Abt. 1868. More About HERBERT ERNEST PAGE: Bapt: November 16, 1868, Deptford, St Paul Note: Parents are Joseph Page + Eliz. But not proved that it's this Joseph.. 9. WILLIAM7 PAGE (GEORGE6, JOSHUA5, JOHN4, GEORGE3, JOHN2, SAME1 PARENTS?)9 was born October 7, 1856 in near Anchor & Hope Pub, Charlton, Lewisham R.D., and died June 13, 1910 in Buried in Charlton Cemetry, london, England. He met HARRIET SUSAN SELLS December 24, 1876 in St Alphege, Greenwich (have marr. cert.), daughter of JOHN SELLS and HARRIET. She was born Abt. 1859 in Greenwich, London, England. Notes for WILLIAM PAGE: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------- More About WILLIAM PAGE: Bapt: St Lukes, Charlton Burial: Charlton cemetery. Occup'n: Gen. Labourer in 1881 living at 3 Kitson's Terrace, Greenwich, gone by 1891. Children of WILLIAM PAGE and HARRIET SELLS are: i. HARRIET LYDIA8 PAGE, b. 1878, Greenwich. More About HARRIET LYDIA PAGE: Note: Known as Lydia ? ii. ALICE M.E.PAGE, b. 1880, Greenwich. iii. ADA PAGE, b. Abt. 1882. iv. SUSAN PAGE, b. Abt. 1884. v. WILLIAM HENRY PAGE, b. August 3, 1885, London, England10; d. December 24, 1956; m. SARAH ANN CONSTANCE BROOMFIELD, April 24, 1916, St Mary Magdalene, Massinger St, Old Kent Rd., Southwark; b. April 7, 1888, - 6 Valentine Place, LongLane, Bermondsey (birth cert.); d. September 22, 1970, home, 70 Codrington Hill, Forest Hill, London.

Hello, I am looking for information on Pike Shelton Page from North Carolina. He was married to Ada Rosello (Rosalia?) Reese of Oklahoma and they had at least one daughter. Merion Elizabeth Page was b. 14 Feb 1920 in Salisbury, North Carolina. Ada was born in 1895, so I am estimating Pike's birth year to be bet. 1885 - 1895. I know this isn't much information, but I'm and optimist. Thanks, Gail

Hi Ken..Thanks for your respose. .I've gone into the digest mode on several of my lists and am just now catching up. I'm forwarding your post on to Dolores. I don't have any further information on these families but Dolores and you can compare notes....both of you have copious notes to compare I'm sure. Hope you two can come up with something. Connie ~~~~~~~~snip Hi Connie, I show Patsy and Polly Page as sisters and not the same person. Patsy is usually short for Martha and of course Polly for Mary. Most of the family moved to the area of Nashville, Tn. although some cousins moved to Al. and Ky. If my info is incorrect, please let me know. Robert Page b. c1715 Presbyterian #1 md. ca 1736 sp. Unk #2 md. 3/20/1759 Bedford Co., Va. sp. Winnifred Patty William b. c1737 #1 md. 12/2/1757 sp. Agnes Houching (Houchins) #2 md. 9/24/1770 sp. Mary Weatherspoon (niece of Winnifred Patty) Robert Page b. 1/26/1762 Goochland Co., Va md. 10/24/1789 sp. Sallie Ann Harding (sister of John Harding of Belle Meade Mansion fame). 1. Giles Harding Page Born: 8/27/1792 Va. to TN Married: 9/15/1812 to Henrietta Mariah Wilkes, dau of Thomas B. Wilkes & Sally Gunn 2. Robert Page Born: ? Married: Julia Wilkes 12/20/1819 Davidson Co., TN She is also a daughter of Thomas B. Wilkes & Sally Gunn 3. John Page 4. George Page 5. Franklin Page 6. Sally Ann Page 7. Patsy Page 8. Polly Page Married Robert Hodge 2/1/1813 Davidson Co., TN. 9. Elizabeth Ken in Orlando At 07:12 PM 04/28/1999 EDT, you wrote: >Since one of my main paternal lines is Page, I'm also on the Page-L list. >Some of you may know of the amazing work done by Delores Rutherford in the >Goochland and surrounding VA areas on the Page family [oh how I wish I wish >that my >Page family had gone to VA instead of California!]. Anyway, she posted this >brief query about Hodge/Page connection. If any of you can help her please >reply directly to her dcr555@softcom.net or to me and we will post your >response to the PAGE-List. Thanks connie > > > Children of William PAGE (R-1) and Mary WEATHERSPOON > (his 2nd marriage) > (concluded) > > > R-1-9 Patsy ("Polly") PAGE > > She was b. 22 Sep 1782 and bp'd 19 Apr 1783 in > Goochland Co., the last child of William and Mary > PAGE whose birth is registered by the Rev. Wm. > Douglas.(1) > > Her marriage to James HODGES on 18 Jun 1808 was > performed by Rev. Lewis CHAUDOIN, the PAGE Family > marry-er in that county.(2) > > I have no more information on this couple except > that they do not appear in the 1810 Census of > Goochland Co. and may have moved to where other > PAGE and HODGES families had migrated. Perhaps > some HODGES researchers could tell us about them > >By the way this is only a small part of Delores's 32nd posting on the Pages >of Goochland. If any of you are researching Hodges/Page you will find a >wealth of information probably in the archives or the newly started "threaded >links" on the genforum. genealogy.com pages. Whee..... it's amazing. >connie >

I haven't received any postings from PAGE-L since last Monday. I'm just posting this to see if it gets through. Dolores

Becki Page and list, I am looking for parents and siblings of Thomas PAGE, b. Feb. 4, 1815 in Illinois according to census ( question whether that is correct as Illinois was not even a state yet). He married Elizabeth POTEET on Oct. 24, 1839 in Shelby Co., Illinois. She was the daughter of Isaac POTEET and Nancy GREER of Williamson Co., Tennessee. Isaac POTEET's father was Barnabas POTEET and Isaac also named a son Barnabas. Becki - with the unusual first name of Barnabas being in both our families, and yours possibly being from Tennessee, do you know if our PAGE families connect? I can't find Cobb Co., Tennessee in my "Handy Book for Genealogists" or on a current map. Nancy Arendsee Volunteer of Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at http.www.rootsweb.com/~tnraogk/

Hi... I know there are some of you out there that is researching this line and I have noticed that no one has included my great grandfather's first wife... I come from Sebern Page and Louisa Tramel thru John Jefferson Page m. Sarah Lee?? their son William Harrison.. William Harrison Page was my great grandfather.. he was married before he married Irma Adcock his first wife (and my great granmother ) was Clara May FOX Dob-10 Sep 1894 in KY dod- 02 Mar 1919 in Hamilton, Sullivan Co., IN they had one child... Robert Dillard Page I have the line all the way up to Barnabas Page Does anyone have anymore info on Sarah LEE that married my John Jefferson Page... all I can find of her is her birht year.. Also.. I recieved John Jefferson Page's death certificate and it lists his father as Calvin Page born in TN his mother as Lousia Page born in TN I am not sure if this is the correct death certficate so if anyone know if all this info is correct please let me know... this is what is on the cert. sex- m race-white married date of birth- ? July 1857 in Cobb Co., TN date of death- 28 Feb 1930 in Earlington, Hopkins Co., KY Thanks, for being patient... your cousin... somewhere in the line Becki Page occupation Framing? Informant is Mrs. ELbert Page from Earlington, Ky.. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

I'm trying to locate information on where my grandfather and his brother lived after their mother died. My grandfather was 5 and his brother was 6 in 1892 when she died...they show up in 1910 census, but so far I haven't located them in 1900? My general question is about what some of you have found in tracking similar situations. How far away from the homesite might they have gone? And my feeling is that the more you know about the collateral families, the easier this situation would be to discover. I've had one youngest daughter go to live with the family of her older married sister, a couple of families where the children were in orphanages after their father died or deserted the family. I found the two brothers mentioned above living with a brother of their father in 1910. Any other types of experiences you've found in your research would be of great help to me.. Thanks. Connie

Hello My name is Carol and I have been doing genealogy for a couple of years.....still a newbie (-: I have a connection to the name PAGE through my paternal great-grandfather William John PAGE. Dr. William John PAGE ( L.R.C.P (Edin)...M.R.C.S (Eng) an assistant surgeon with the 94th of Foot Regiment and later 6th Dragoon ) born Dublin Ireland 1837 died 1884..... & Catherine HEATH my paternal gr-grandparents produced... Mayotta Page HEATH in Leeds Yorkshire England in 1876. Catherine * Kate* HEATH.... I am told...assumed the name PAGE for the rest of her life. My paternal grandmother b 1876 Leed d1915 Wakefield Yorkshire, Mayotta ( unusual name ) WHITAKER went through life believing that her maiden name was PAGE, this is the name she gave on her marriage certificate, in fact her birth certificate lists her as HEATH, no father's name is stated however from documents that I possess I do know that William PAGE was the father. William John PAGE went to England, Indian and China during his time in the army, he spoke French and Hindustani. He died in Rock Ferry Cheshire England, May 1884 at the age of 47 and was transported back to Dublin Ireland for interment in a family vault in Glasnevin cemetery . Other names associated with William John PAGE. WHITAKER HEATH BARNSLEY STEEL(E) MANGLES-DENHAM DENHAM VIETRI McNALLY I do hope someone somewhere is connected to this interesting family. Carol Porter Victoria B.C. Canada