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    1. Re: [PAGE] English Origins Of Axel Heath Page and Relationship toNathaniel P...
    2. George W. Page
    3. At 06:20 PM 12/13/2008, you wrote: >can you tell me what state your Pages are from? Mine are from NH. My immigrant ancestor was George Page who arrived in Conn. about 1662 who lived and died in Branford, New Haven Co. I have researched ALL of the known Page Family Lines that came to the part of America that became the United States during the 17th century. Your line, as well as all the other lines and mine are well described on my website: www.PageY-DNA.ORG GWPage >-------------- Original message from Dan & Moira Page ><dmpage@sasktel.net>: -------------- > > > > I am a Page descendant of some 7 generations. I have posted to your site, > > but it was some time ago. How does one arrange for DNA testing, > and what is > > the cost. - Daniel Page > > > > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, > please send an email to PAGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > > the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PAGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/13/2008 03:29:08
    1. Re: [PAGE] English Origins Of Axel Heath Page and Relationship toNathaniel P...
    2. George W. Page
    3. At 06:09 PM 12/13/2008, you wrote: >I am a Page descendant of some 7 generations. I have posted to your site, >but it was some time ago. How does one arrange for DNA testing, and what is >the cost. - Daniel Page The Page Y-DNA Project is described and a Y-DNA test kit can be ordered from the following website: https://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.aspx?code=H98087&special=true The order form defaults to 25 markers at a group rate of $124, which can be paid by credit card or by check sent with the test vials. You can read further about Y-DNA testing and order a test kit from my website: www.PageY-DNA.ORG GWP

    12/13/2008 03:24:18
    1. Re: [PAGE] English Origins Of Axel Heath Page and Relationship toNathaniel P...
    2. carla page
    3. there are no ship records anywhere for "EXOLHEATH OR AXELHEATH PAGE,i,ve gone clear back to the very early 1700,s. ________________________________ From: carla page <carla_page39@yahoo.com> To: page@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 10:26:09 PM Subject: Re: [PAGE] English Origins Of Axel Heath Page and Relationship toNathaniel P... there is an "EXOL SWAMP"VIRGINIA in king&queen county,virginia,it is just off of highway 17 in king&queen county,virginia the swamp runs near jamaica,virginia.king&queen county and king william county border each other. http://maps.google.com/ King and Queen, Exol Baptist Church Tombstone Inscriptions ________________________________ From: carla page <carla_page39@yahoo.com> To: page@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 10:02:05 PM Subject: Re: [PAGE] English Origins Of Axel Heath Page and Relationship toNathaniel P... we know that exolheath aka axelheath was not his real name,because i,ve researched ship lists going back to the very early 1700,s on immigrant ships and i cannot find him coming to america with his parents with the name of exolheath or axelheath page.i believe he was given that as a nickname,or given that name as the name of a place,probably in england.there is an exolheath road that runs infront of windsor castle,or near it. http://maps.google.com/  ________________________________ From: George W. Page <gwpage@erols.com> To: page@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 9:24:18 PM Subject: Re: [PAGE] English Origins Of Axel Heath Page and Relationship toNathaniel P... At 06:09 PM 12/13/2008, you wrote: >I am a Page descendant of some 7 generations. I have posted to your site, >but it was some time ago. How  does one arrange for DNA testing, and what is >the cost. - Daniel Page The Page Y-DNA Project is described and a Y-DNA test kit can be ordered from the following website: https://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.aspx?code=H98087&special=true The order form defaults to 25 markers at a group rate of $124, which can be paid by credit card or by check sent with the test vials. You can read further about Y-DNA testing and order a test kit from my website: www.PageY-DNA.ORG GWP ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/13/2008 01:31:43
    1. Re: [PAGE] English Origins Of Axel Heath Page and Relationship toNathaniel P...
    2. carla page
    3. there is an "EXOL SWAMP"VIRGINIA in king&queen county,virginia,it is just off of highway 17 in king&queen county,virginia the swamp runs near jamaica,virginia.king&queen county and king william county border each other. http://maps.google.com/ King and Queen, Exol Baptist Church Tombstone Inscriptions ________________________________ From: carla page <carla_page39@yahoo.com> To: page@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 10:02:05 PM Subject: Re: [PAGE] English Origins Of Axel Heath Page and Relationship toNathaniel P... we know that exolheath aka axelheath was not his real name,because i,ve researched ship lists going back to the very early 1700,s on immigrant ships and i cannot find him coming to america with his parents with the name of exolheath or axelheath page.i believe he was given that as a nickname,or given that name as the name of a place,probably in england.there is an exolheath road that runs infront of windsor castle,or near it. http://maps.google.com/  ________________________________ From: George W. Page <gwpage@erols.com> To: page@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 9:24:18 PM Subject: Re: [PAGE] English Origins Of Axel Heath Page and Relationship toNathaniel P... At 06:09 PM 12/13/2008, you wrote: >I am a Page descendant of some 7 generations. I have posted to your site, >but it was some time ago. How  does one arrange for DNA testing, and what is >the cost. - Daniel Page The Page Y-DNA Project is described and a Y-DNA test kit can be ordered from the following website: https://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.aspx?code=H98087&special=true The order form defaults to 25 markers at a group rate of $124, which can be paid by credit card or by check sent with the test vials. You can read further about Y-DNA testing and order a test kit from my website: www.PageY-DNA.ORG GWP ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/13/2008 01:26:09
    1. Re: [PAGE] English Origins Of Axel Heath Page and Relationship toNathaniel P...
    2. carla page
    3. we know that exolheath aka axelheath was not his real name,because i,ve researched ship lists going back to the very early 1700,s on immigrant ships and i cannot find him coming to america with his parents with the name of exolheath or axelheath page.i believe he was given that as a nickname,or given that name as the name of a place,probably in england.there is an exolheath road that runs infront of windsor castle,or near it. http://maps.google.com/  ________________________________ From: George W. Page <gwpage@erols.com> To: page@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 9:24:18 PM Subject: Re: [PAGE] English Origins Of Axel Heath Page and Relationship toNathaniel P... At 06:09 PM 12/13/2008, you wrote: >I am a Page descendant of some 7 generations. I have posted to your site, >but it was some time ago. How  does one arrange for DNA testing, and what is >the cost. - Daniel Page The Page Y-DNA Project is described and a Y-DNA test kit can be ordered from the following website: https://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.aspx?code=H98087&special=true The order form defaults to 25 markers at a group rate of $124, which can be paid by credit card or by check sent with the test vials. You can read further about Y-DNA testing and order a test kit from my website: www.PageY-DNA.ORG GWP ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/13/2008 01:02:05
    1. Re: [PAGE] English Origins Of Axel Heath Page and Relationship toNathaniel P...
    2. carla page
    3. i have learned within the last day or so that my gggggrandfather edward d.page,his middle name was "DILLON"not "dillard"so now i,m at a quandry,it takes my research into a whole new direction.note:that john a.page his middle name was "alexander"he was the son of edmund dillon page.edmund dillon was the son of edward dillon page.surely goodness someone out there has a "EDWARD DILLON PAGE"born 1776 possibly in amherst,virginia,or albemarle county,virginia in their family line.i don,t know but i wonder if that middle name of dillon is a clue that edward left behind.there is a dillon,south carolina in dillon county,query,could edward have been born in south carolina? and not virginia? i,m starting to think about this now.please help! http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=31809854   http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=31809905   GPS: 37.28714 - 079.99216 Added by: S.G. Thompson 12/12/2008   ________________________________ From: George W. Page <gwpage@erols.com> To: page@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 9:24:18 PM Subject: Re: [PAGE] English Origins Of Axel Heath Page and Relationship toNathaniel P... At 06:09 PM 12/13/2008, you wrote: >I am a Page descendant of some 7 generations. I have posted to your site, >but it was some time ago. How  does one arrange for DNA testing, and what is >the cost. - Daniel Page The Page Y-DNA Project is described and a Y-DNA test kit can be ordered from the following website: https://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.aspx?code=H98087&special=true The order form defaults to 25 markers at a group rate of $124, which can be paid by credit card or by check sent with the test vials. You can read further about Y-DNA testing and order a test kit from my website: www.PageY-DNA.ORG GWP ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/13/2008 12:44:43
    1. Re: [PAGE] English Origins Of Axel Heath Page and Relationship toNathaniel P...
    2. Dan & Moira Page
    3. I am a Page descendant of some 7 generations. I have posted to your site, but it was some time ago. How does one arrange for DNA testing, and what is the cost. - Daniel Page

    12/13/2008 10:09:47
    1. Re: [PAGE] English Origins Of Axel Heath Page and Relationship to Nathaniel P...
    2. George, Your Surname Project is wonderful and I am glad to see folks who take such an active interest in using DNA to assist with traditional genealogical research. It is a subject very dear to me. In fact, I used to lecture on the subject so I am very well versed. I wish you continued success! There is nothing like finding who are ancestors were! :-) Best Wishes, Sheila **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010)

    12/13/2008 09:58:04
    1. Re: [PAGE] English Origins Of Axel Heath Page and Relationship to Nathaniel P...
    2. George W. Page
    3. I was not irritated by your message; but thought it confusing and incorrect because of misunderstandings (even in what you wrote below). All Page/Paige males do not have the same Y-DNA markers or even belong to the same Y-haplogroup (A through R1b)! - see [1]http://www.scs.uiuc.edu/~mcdonald/WorldHaplogroupsMaps.pdf This is true even without paternal irregularities. When I started the Y-DNA Project for Pages several years ago (and three other surnames), it was with the presumption (thesis) that all male Pages were from the same family within recorded history (i.e., shared a common male Page ancestor whose name was either Page, Paige, or le Page). After 100+ males with the surname Page were Y-DNA tested and 25 of their markers were compared, I disproved the thesis and found that most fell into one of about fifteen Page Family Lines which I have designated A through O. Those who are in a specific group with close matches (at least 23 out of 25 Y-DYS markers are in fact cousins who share a common male ancestor somewhere and sometime back in recorded history. Those within the same haplogroup (A through share a common male ancestor back before recorded history about 10,000 years ago. There were a few whose surname was not Page, who had 25 Y-DNA markers that were identical, or closely matched those in one of my designated Page Family lines. One such person was a black from Gloucester Co., VA, whose Negro grandmother way back had given birth to a child fathered by a male Page from that Family Line that lived in that county for several generations (which I have determined and traced back in England to the 1500s). I other cases we found that there were a few males with the Page surname who did not fit into any of the identified Page Family Lines. They had been adopted and therefore acquired the Page surname. In some cases we were even find out in which generation the adoption occurred. Lets start from the beginning: ALL males started from one male (normally referred to as Adam) who has a very small part of his nuclear DNA called Y-Chromosome DNA which determines the sex of his offspring and is passed down only to his son(s). Occasionally some of the DYS values mutate so that the numerical values for a few markers change. (I have two brothers-in-law who have a difference in one DYS marker out of 25. Because there are only two to compare I don't know who has the mutated DYS marker, or when or why it occurred. The science of experts selecting the best set of DYS markers to test in the package of 12, 25, 37,or 64 markers that mutate often to is the key to good and useful Y-DNA results. Not all firms that sell Y-DNA test kits offer the same markers, and not all process them in an expert fashion! In summary, testing a males Y-DNA is useful only if the results are compared with a set of others known to have the same surname. If they fall into the set (Page Family Line) they are cousins who share a common male ancestor by that name somewhere and sometime back in recorded history. They can, and do, share family history and increase their tested markers up to 67 to try and determine exactly who is their common male Page ancestor. I recommend you view the links on Y-DNA testing and definitions on my website where you can also learn more about the Page Family Lines and the origin of the name. [2]www.PageY-DNA.ORG GWP Page Y-DNA Project Administrator ______________ At 12:32 PM 12/13/2008, you wrote: George, Irritating you was not my goal. Yes, non-paternity in this case means non-Page. Perhaps I should have been more specific. I thought the term non-paternity would be self explanatory. What I meant by non-paternity and adoption was - a couple adopts a boy that is not a Page, is raised as a Page, passes along his genetic code. However, generations later his descendants have no idea that he was adopted thus not carrying the Page DNA. Thus their confusion about not matching others Page's. What I meant by non-Page union was - the wife goes off and has sex with a man that is not her Page husband (not his brother or any other Page relative) and produces a child from that union, the offspring is not a Page but is raised as one without the family knowing that the offspring is not a genetic Page, then his offspring also have no idea that they are not actually Page offspring, and generations later they have no idea why they do not match other Page DNA. Perhaps you missed the first sentence of my e-mail, "DNA can really assist greatly with traditional genealogical research! :-)" I am all for DNA analysis - no need to defend it to me, nor was I questioning its validity. I am actually very well versed in it and have a lot of experience with it. I was merely trying to get folks to think outside the box in cases where their Page ancestry is well documented but they still don't see a genetic connection. Sorry for your negative take on my initial e-mail. Perhaps this e-mail clears up what I was trying to convey. Sheila **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (htt p://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom0000001 0) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. http://www.scs.uiuc.edu/~mcdonald/WorldHaplogroupsMaps.pdf 2. http://www.PageY-DNA.ORG/

    12/13/2008 07:05:37
    1. Re: [PAGE] English Origins Of Axel Heath Page and Relationship to Nathaniel P...
    2. George W. Page
    3. I was not irritated by your message; but thought it confusing and incorrect because of misunderstandings (even in what you wrote below). All Page/Paige males do not have the same Y-DNA markers or even belong to the same Y-haplogroup (A through R1b)! - see [1]http://www.scs.uiuc.edu/~mcdonald/WorldHaplogroupsMaps.pdf This is true even without paternal irregularities. When I started the Y-DNA Project for Pages several years ago (and three other surnames), it was with the presumption (thesis) that all male Pages were from the same family within recorded history (i.e., shared a common male Page ancestor whose name was either Page, Paige, or le Page). After 100+ males with the surname Page were Y-DNA tested and 25 of their markers were compared, I disproved the thesis and found that most fell into one of about fifteen Page Family Lines which I have designated A through O. Those who are in a specific group with close matches (at least 23 out of 25 Y-DYS markers are in fact cousins who share a common male ancestor somewhere and sometime back in recorded history. Those within the same haplogroup (A through share a common male ancestor back before recorded history about 10,000 years ago. There were a few whose surname was not Page, who had 25 Y-DNA markers that were identical, or closely matched those in one of my designated Page Family lines. One such person was a black from Gloucester Co., VA, whose Negro grandmother way back had given birth to a child fathered by a male Page from that Family Line that lived in that county for several generations (which I have determined and traced back in England to the 1500s). I other cases we found that there were a few males with the Page surname who did not fit into any of the identified Page Family Lines. They had been adopted and therefore acquired the Page surname. In some cases we were even find out in which generation the adoption occurred. Lets start from the beginning: ALL males started from one male (normally referred to as Adam) who has a very small part of his nuclear DNA called Y-Chromosome DNA which determines the sex of his offspring and is passed down only to his son(s). Occasionally some of the DYS values mutate so that the numerical values for a few markers change. (I have two brothers-in-law who have a difference in one DYS marker out of 25. Because there are only two to compare I don't know who has the mutated DYS marker, or when or why it occurred. The science of experts selecting the best set of DYS markers to test in the package of 12, 25, 37,or 64 markers that mutate often to is the key to good and useful Y-DNA results. Not all firms that sell Y-DNA test kits offer the same markers, and not all process them in an expert fashion! In summary, testing a males Y-DNA is useful only if the results are compared with a set of others known to have the same surname. If they fall into the set (Page Family Line) they are cousins who share a common male ancestor by that name somewhere and sometime back in recorded history. They can, and do, share family history and increase their tested markers up to 67 to try and determine exactly who is their common male Page ancestor. I recommend you view the links on Y-DNA testing and definitions on my website where you can also learn more about the Page Family Lines and the origin of the name. [2]www.PageY-DNA.ORG GWP Page Y-DNA Project Administrator ______________ At 12:32 PM 12/13/2008, you wrote: George, Irritating you was not my goal. Yes, non-paternity in this case means non-Page. Perhaps I should have been more specific. I thought the term non-paternity would be self explanatory. What I meant by non-paternity and adoption was - a couple adopts a boy that is not a Page, is raised as a Page, passes along his genetic code. However, generations later his descendants have no idea that he was adopted thus not carrying the Page DNA. Thus their confusion about not matching others Page's. What I meant by non-Page union was - the wife goes off and has sex with a man that is not her Page husband (not his brother or any other Page relative) and produces a child from that union, the offspring is not a Page but is raised as one without the family knowing that the offspring is not a genetic Page, then his offspring also have no idea that they are not actually Page offspring, and generations later they have no idea why they do not match other Page DNA. Perhaps you missed the first sentence of my e-mail, "DNA can really assist greatly with traditional genealogical research! :-)" I am all for DNA analysis - no need to defend it to me, nor was I questioning its validity. I am actually very well versed in it and have a lot of experience with it. I was merely trying to get folks to think outside the box in cases where their Page ancestry is well documented but they still don't see a genetic connection. Sorry for your negative take on my initial e-mail. Perhaps this e-mail clears up what I was trying to convey. Sheila **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (htt p://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom0000001 0) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. http://www.scs.uiuc.edu/~mcdonald/WorldHaplogroupsMaps.pdf 2. http://www.PageY-DNA.ORG/

    12/13/2008 07:04:41
    1. Re: [PAGE] English Origins Of Axel Heath Page and Relationship to Nathaniel P...
    2. George, Irritating you was not my goal. Yes, non-paternity in this case means non-Page. Perhaps I should have been more specific. I thought the term non-paternity would be self explanatory. What I meant by non-paternity and adoption was - a couple adopts a boy that is not a Page, is raised as a Page, passes along his genetic code. However, generations later his descendants have no idea that he was adopted thus not carrying the Page DNA. Thus their confusion about not matching others Page's. What I meant by non-Page union was - the wife goes off and has sex with a man that is not her Page husband (not his brother or any other Page relative) and produces a child from that union, the offspring is not a Page but is raised as one without the family knowing that the offspring is not a genetic Page, then his offspring also have no idea that they are not actually Page offspring, and generations later they have no idea why they do not match other Page DNA. Perhaps you missed the first sentence of my e-mail, "DNA can really assist greatly with traditional genealogical research! :-)" I am all for DNA analysis - no need to defend it to me, nor was I questioning its validity. I am actually very well versed in it and have a lot of experience with it. I was merely trying to get folks to think outside the box in cases where their Page ancestry is well documented but they still don't see a genetic connection. Sorry for your negative take on my initial e-mail. Perhaps this e-mail clears up what I was trying to convey. Sheila **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (htt p://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010)

    12/13/2008 05:32:33
    1. Re: [PAGE] English Origins Of Axel Heath Page and Relationship to Nathaniel P...
    2. George W. Page
    3. At 08:16 AM 12/13/2008, Shelia wrote: (Skip_ > If a male Page was adopted into the Page family and used the > Page name, passed >the Page name onto his descendants, the name remains the same >but the genetic >connection to the Page family does not exist. I believe you meant: "If a NON-Page male was adopted into the Page family.... A male Page with biological connections to a male Page will still retain his Page Y-DNA markers whether or not he is adopted by another Page family or any other surname. in other words, his Y-DNA will not change because he is or was adopted. >Also, if a male child of a Page man was actually the result of a >non-Page union with a Page male, the Page man child never knew >of this, and this child was raised as a genetic Page, the >genetic connection to the Page family does not exist. I disagree with that statement, unless the Page man father was adopted and not a biological male Page! Any male, regardless of his last name, whose father was a biological Page/Paige will retain the Y-DNA markers of his father and all male Page ancestors back several hundred years with a few mutations. >We all hope that our ancestors are who we think they are. However, when we >get very different results via DNA analysis we need to think outside >the box. >Not all of our ancestors were as "prim and proper" as we assume they may >have been. Furthermore for those who only known their Page ancestry a few generations back, Y-DNA testing of a living male relative will help to determine their line of PAGEs by allowing me to compare their tested Y-DNA results with the "Fingerprint Markers" of at least 15 different Page lines that have been identified, and perhaps their immigrant Page ancestor as well. George W. Page Page Surname Y-DNA Project Administrator www.PageY-DNA.Org **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and >favorite sites in one place. Try it now. >(http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PAGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/13/2008 02:17:48
    1. Re: [PAGE] English Origins Of Axel Heath Page and Relationship to Nathaniel P...
    2. Here! Here! DNA can really assist greatly with traditional genealogical research! :-) Keep in mind for those of you who still have brick walls - there may have been non-paternity events that you are unaware of. If a male Page (with various spellings) was adopted into the Page family and used the Page name, passed the Page name onto his descendants, the name remains the same but the genetic connection to the Page family does not exist. Also, if a male child of a Page man was actually the result of a non-Page union, the Page man never knew of this, and this child was raised as a genetic Page, the genetic connection to the Page family does not exist. We all hope that our ancestors are who we think they are. However, when we get very different results via DNA analysis we need to think outside the box. Not all of our ancestors were as "prim and proper" as we assume they may have been. Food for thought... Sheila **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010)

    12/13/2008 01:16:24
    1. [PAGE] English Origins Of Axel Heath Page and Relationship to Nathaniel Page/Paige
    2. George W. Page
    3. Clifford Edward Paige was recently Y-DNA tested by Ancestry.com and his results (alleles) were compared where possible to those Pages in FTDNA's PAGE Surname Y-DNA Project that I administer. Clifford's results were found to be in Page Family Line O (My designation) descended from from Exolheath (Axelheath) Page of Goochland Co., VA, (d. 1780), or his close relative (brother or uncle) - 1754-1775. WE URGENTLY NEED ANOTHER MALE PAIGE DESCENDED FROM NATHANIEL PAGE TO BE Y-DNA TESTED TO CONFIRM HIS LINE''S "FINGERPRINT Y_DNA MARKERS." See my website to learn about Y-DNA testing and order a test kit: www.PageY-DNA.ORG From his daughter, Mandy McCubbin I learned that her brother, Clifford Edward Paige, and she are supposedly direct descendants of the immigrant Nathaniel Page/Paige. From published sources I just found out that he was b. c. 1645 in County Devon, Eng. and arrived in Mass. in 1675, where he changed the spelling of his name to PAIGE. He lived in Billerica that become Bedford, MA , where he died on Apr 12, 1699. [Source: "PAGE Genealogical registers of ancestors & desc. of ... Lemuel Page & Polly Paige, Peter Joslin & Sarah Kidder, with brief accts. of them & their ancestors," by Luke J. Page, 1887, p. 155] Several of his descendants were officers during the Revolutionary War and some lived in Hardwick, Mass.. The same source states that a General Sir John Page lived in County Devon in 1489 indicating a military background for at least one line of Devonshire Pages. [Ibid.] The descendants of Nathaniel Page/Paige are well know and none appear to have gone to Virginia, so we must look back further than Nathaniel Page/Paiges immigration as the source of the father of Exelheath Page and his brother and the common Page ancestor. That search should be centered in county Devon, England, especially during the 17th century. This would best be undertaken by searching the IGI found on-line on the LDS website. We need to get at least one more male PAIGE Y-DNA tested to confirm the "Fingerprint Y-DNA Markers" of the Nathaniel Paige's line of Page/Paiges. George W. Page Page Surname Y-DNA Project Administrator.

    12/12/2008 03:44:26
    1. Re: [PAGE] English Origins Of Axel Heath Page and Relationship to Nathaniel Page/Paige
    2. KAREN DALE
    3. Wow. Now THAT is a major breakthrough! DNA can be a wonderful tool. Of course, it can also be frustrating--I have five matches, all w/VA roots, on Mason DNA--which just gives me five brick walls instead of the one I started with--but this match certainly opens the door to focused research in England--and perhaps the identification of the Exolheath Page family there. Several generations still missing for Exolheath, of course, but at least a new place to investigate! ----- Original Message ----- From: George W. Page<mailto:gwpage@erols.com> To: page@rootsweb.com<mailto:page@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 8:44 AM Subject: [PAGE] English Origins Of Axel Heath Page and Relationship to Nathaniel Page/Paige Clifford Edward Paige was recently Y-DNA tested by Ancestry.com and his results (alleles) were compared where possible to those Pages in FTDNA's PAGE Surname Y-DNA Project that I administer. Clifford's results were found to be in Page Family Line O (My designation) descended from from Exolheath (Axelheath) Page of Goochland Co., VA, (d. 1780), or his close relative (brother or uncle) - 1754-1775. WE URGENTLY NEED ANOTHER MALE PAIGE DESCENDED FROM NATHANIEL PAGE TO BE Y-DNA TESTED TO CONFIRM HIS LINE''S "FINGERPRINT Y_DNA MARKERS." See my website to learn about Y-DNA testing and order a test kit: www.PageY-DNA.ORG<http://www.pagey-dna.org/> From his daughter, Mandy McCubbin I learned that her brother, Clifford Edward Paige, and she are supposedly direct descendants of the immigrant Nathaniel Page/Paige. From published sources I just found out that he was b. c. 1645 in County Devon, Eng. and arrived in Mass. in 1675, where he changed the spelling of his name to PAIGE. He lived in Billerica that become Bedford, MA , where he died on Apr 12, 1699. [Source: "PAGE Genealogical registers of ancestors & desc. of ... Lemuel Page & Polly Paige, Peter Joslin & Sarah Kidder, with brief accts. of them & their ancestors," by Luke J. Page, 1887, p. 155] Several of his descendants were officers during the Revolutionary War and some lived in Hardwick, Mass.. The same source states that a General Sir John Page lived in County Devon in 1489 indicating a military background for at least one line of Devonshire Pages. [Ibid.] The descendants of Nathaniel Page/Paige are well know and none appear to have gone to Virginia, so we must look back further than Nathaniel Page/Paiges immigration as the source of the father of Exelheath Page and his brother and the common Page ancestor. That search should be centered in county Devon, England, especially during the 17th century. This would best be undertaken by searching the IGI found on-line on the LDS website. We need to get at least one more male PAIGE Y-DNA tested to confirm the "Fingerprint Y-DNA Markers" of the Nathaniel Paige's line of Page/Paiges. George W. Page Page Surname Y-DNA Project Administrator. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAGE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:PAGE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/12/2008 03:28:04
    1. Re: [PAGE] confirm845845c9ad3fba46fb6625bo86f8f9e8bfed34d4
    2. Ron
    3. This wasn't from me. I think someone trying to subscribe got me confused and sent you a copy of what she sent me or something like that. Ron Local (405) 810-8585 Fax (405) 810-9103 3501 NW 63rd Street, Suite 602 Oklahoma City, OK 73116 www.pagec.com -----Original Message----- From: page-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:page-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of George W. Page Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 9:23 AM To: page@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PAGE] confirm845845c9ad3fba46fb6625bo86f8f9e8bfed34d4 I don't understand this message from you! George W. Page _______________ At 03:36 PM 12/3/2008, you wrote: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/05/2008 07:38:32
    1. Re: [PAGE] confirm845845c9ad3fba46fb6625bo86f8f9e8bfed34d4
    2. Ron
    3. No problem. Ron Local (405) 810-8585 Fax (405) 810-9103 3501 NW 63rd Street, Suite 602 Oklahoma City, OK 73116 www.pagec.com -----Original Message----- From: page-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:page-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Betsy Mallory Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 12:06 PM To: page@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PAGE] confirm845845c9ad3fba46fb6625bo86f8f9e8bfed34d4 I'm sorry. I thought I was confirming that I had registered with PAGE-request@rootsweb.com. I sent you a copy as I thought it was you who had told me about it and were somehow connected with that Page. B. Mallory On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 9:22 AM, George W. Page <gwpage@erols.com> wrote: > > I don't understand this message from you! > George W. Page > _______________ > At 03:36 PM 12/3/2008, you wrote: > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/05/2008 07:32:02
    1. Re: [PAGE] confirm845845c9ad3fba46fb6625bo86f8f9e8bfed34d4
    2. Betsy Mallory
    3. I'm sorry. I thought I was confirming that I had registered with PAGE-request@rootsweb.com. I sent you a copy as I thought it was you who had told me about it and were somehow connected with that Page. B. Mallory On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 9:22 AM, George W. Page <gwpage@erols.com> wrote: > > I don't understand this message from you! > George W. Page > _______________ > At 03:36 PM 12/3/2008, you wrote: > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    12/05/2008 05:05:44
    1. Re: [PAGE] confirm845845c9ad3fba46fb6625bo86f8f9e8bfed34d4
    2. George W. Page
    3. I don't understand this message from you! George W. Page _______________ At 03:36 PM 12/3/2008, you wrote: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/05/2008 03:22:41
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