Hello Page list, I recently found a picture of a great uncle of mine who was in the army in WW2. On his left sleeve are the patches which my father and I have decided are a 5th army and also a "T" sergeant patch, but also on the lower left sleeve by his wrist is 3 stripes which indicate time in service. I guess my question is, does each stripes on the lower left sleeve indicate two years of service or four years in service? We are just trying to figure out how long this uncle was in the Army. Thanks Steve Page

Looking for grandfather Joseph Page born 1890 Willow Springs, North Carolina; married 1914 to Sally Parton in Yell Co. Ark; later married Nancy and lived in North Carolina. His father was John Calvin Page married to Cayce living in NC.

Hi fellow PAGEs, I have an obit. from today's paper for an Estella PAGE Stobaugh Foote b. May 30, 1910 in Huntsville, Ark. of Walter S. and Pearl (Smith) PAGE d. Sep. 25, 2000 in Yakima, WA. If anyone is interested in more of the particulars e-mail me privately and I'll send more details. Gwen in WA State <[email protected]>

Hi, Mathew, This James PAGE "could be" the James T. PAGE who was age 20-30 in the 1840 Census of Kanawha Co., (W)VA....but I can't be sure. A James J. PAGE md. Virginia NEWTON in Kanawha Co., (W)VA on 13 Dec 1841. Perhaps the middle initial was read incorrectly in one of these records. Can't be sure of the above....just "food for thought". Dolores in CA

I ran across this information the other day while researching my PAGE family in Fayette Co, PA. While this PAGE is not in my line, I thought someone on the list might find it beneficial. I believe he belongs to the Glouchester VA PAGE line. *1860 Federal Census, Brownsville Twp, Fayette Co., PA; page 57, Roll #1109; James Page, age 37, Episcopal Minister, b/VA; Virginia, age 31, b/VA; Woods, age 7, b/VA; Henry, age 3, b/VA; Sarah, age 4, b/VA; Thomas, age 2, b/PA. Mathew Page [email protected] ----- Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere!

I wonder if anyone has ever seen anything regarding the wife of Joseph PAGE of Londonderry NH and Haverhill MA. For quite some time my cousin and I have been attempting locate parents and ancestors for Rhoda DAVIS.We know she had a brother James DAVIS who was present at Rhoda's 80th birthday celebration. We have noted,as you may have that several of her children have the middle name DAVIS.Hannah Davis,James Davis (named after her brother?)and Nancy Davis;there are two further middle names which appear to have been given from surnames Rebecca INGERSOLL and Samule NEWELL. Perhaps these come into the family through Rhoda's family.We have failed thus far to find ancestory for Rhoda.If anyone has an insight to this problem I would greatly appreciate your help. There has been a suggestion that her father was a James DAVIS but have been unable to find one to fit the dates. Respectfully Brian C.Page

Very interesting reading! Thanks for your research! Please continue. Donna "George W. Page" wrote: > > Sir Richard Page's 1547, not 1558, PCC will abstract is as follows with > modernization of the spelling of the place names:

I recommend expanding to full screen width before reading this LONG message. In 1917 Charles Nash Page in his Page Genealogy Chart #1 (and probably in his book, "History & gen. of the Page fam. from 1257 to the present, with a brief hist. & gen. of the allied fams." Nash & Peck, by C.N. Page. 143p., 1911) incorrectly identified a Sir Richard Page, Knight (who was referred to by King Henry VIII as "Ye Noble Richard") as the progenitor of several of the Pages from Sudbury Court in the parish of Harrow, county Middlesex, Eng.. The chart shows Sir Richard Page to be the brother of Henry Page of Wembley who m.(2) Constance Hodder (sic, Hoddesdon according to his 1558 PCC will) and the father of children Rowland Page; Thomas Page; Agnes Page who m. a Thornton; Dorothy Page who m. William Gerard; and William Page by his wife Alice __?__. This long message corrects the historical record about Sir Richard Page, Knt. and his descendants, which have been incorrectly attributed to "Ye Noble Richard" over the years by several family historians. The Sir Richard Page of King Henry's Court was in personal attendance upon the King's natural son, Henry Fitzroy, and he is mentioned in a letter written by Wolsey to the king in 1525 as having devised the armorial bearings for the boy, who had been created Duke of Richmond. His name also occurs as Vice-Chamberlain of the Dule's household. He was afterwards captain of the king's bodyguard, and enjoyed the favour of the Court, as Cromwell writes to Wolsey, "Mr. Page received your letter directed to my Lady Ann [Boleyn] and will deliver the same. She gave him kind words, but will not promise to speak to the king for you." He was knighted on 3 November 1529 at King of York Palace, now Whitehall, and received a gift of crest and arms quarterly on 1 February 1530/1 from Benolt [Harry Rylands, Esq. "Grantees of Arms Named in Docquets and Patents To The End of The Seventeenth Century (Harleian Society, 1915, p. 188)] He also received the Priority of Thorby in county Essex at the Dissolution. Sir Richard and the poet Sir Thomas Wyatt, who wrote the first English sonnets to Anne Bullen/Boleyn a generation before Shakespeare was born, were sent to the Tower of London on 5 May 1536 on suspicion of having been Anne's lovers. Both were set free on the advise of Thomas Cromwell, Earl of Essex, because the affairs with Anne took place prior to her marriage to Henry VIII. The same source states that Sir Richard Page was "connected with the Fitzwilliams and the Russells." These people were: Sir William Fitzwilliam, kt. 1513, 1st Earl of Southampton in 1537; and, Sir John Russell, kt. 1513, Lord Russell 1539, created Earl of BEDFORD 1550, who were both Keepers of the Privy Seal of Henry VIII. [J.D. Mackie, "The Earlier Tudors 1485-1558," (Oxford & New York: Oxford University Press, 1993), p. 647]. After his close call he was banished from the court and the presence of King Henry VIII, and he supposedly located in Essex where he supposedly died c. 1558 according to CN Page in 1917. In truth Sir Richard Page m .Elizabeth, the daughter of Sir Fulk Bourchier, Knt. 2nd Barion Fitz-Warine, who was summoned to parliament on 19August 1472. This nobleman m. Elizabeth, a sister and heiress of John, Lord Dynham. Elizabeth m. 1st to Sir Edward Stanhope, Knt., and 2ndly, to Sir Richard Page, knt." Elizabeth Bourchier/Stanhope and Sir Richard Page had a daughter, Elizabeth Page, who was their only daughter and heiress (i.e., they had no surviving sons or other daughters!). He was referred to as the "right honorable Sir Richard Page, knt. of Beechwood, in the county of Hertford, of the privy council of King Henry VIII." The daughter, Elizabeth Page, m. as his first wife Sir William Skipwith of Ormesby, Lincolnshire who received his knighthood in the Battle of Muscleborough, 1st (year of reign) of Edward VI. In the 6th of the same reign he was returned to parliament by the county of Lincoln, and was sheriff, in the 4th (year of reign) of Queen Elizabeth. [ [John Burke, Esq., "Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland," Vol. 1 "History of the Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland" (London: 1834-1838, reprinted Baltimore: Clearfield {Genealogical Publishing Co., 1977}, p. 604] Here's what I found out about the Stanhope family: (Stanhope) "Edward (Sir) of Rampton, who received the honor of knighthood upon the field of battle from Henry VII for his distinguished conduct against the Cornish rebels. Sir Edward wedded first, Avelina, daughter of Sir Gervase Clifton, K.B. by whom he had two sons, Richard and Michael. He m. secondly, Elizabeth, daughter of Fulk Bourchier, Lord Fitzwarine, and had only one daughter Anne, the second wife of Protector Somerset. Richard Stanhope, the elder son of Sir Edward, leaving at his decease in 1529, a daughter only, the male line was continued by his brother (the second son) Sir Michael Stanhope, an eminent person in the reign of Henry VIII, who obtained from that monarch, a grant of the house and site of the monastery of Shelford." [Ibid., p. 467.] Now the interesting part concerning the Bourchier family: Sir Fulk Bourchier, Knt. 2nd Barion Fitz-Warine, who was summoned to parliament on 19August 1472. This nobleman m. Elizabeth, a sister and heiress of John, Lord Dynham, and had issue, John his successor; Joane, m. James, Lord Audley; Elizabeth m. 1st to Sir Edward Stanhope, Knt., and 2ndly, to Sir Richard Page, knt." Elizabeth Bourchier/Stanhope and Sir Richard Page had a daughter, Elizabeth Page, who was their only daughter and heiress (i.e., they had no surviving sons or daughters!). He was referred to as the "right honorable Sir Richard Page, knt. of Beechwood, in the county of Hertford, of the privy council of King Henry VIII." The daughter, Elizabeth Page, m. as his first wife Sir William Skipwith of Ormesby, etc. (including co. Lincoln) who received his knighthood in the Battle of Muscleborough, 1st (year of reign) of Edward VI. In the 6th of the same reign he was returned to parliament by the county of Lincoln, and was sheriff, in the 4th (year of reign) of Queen Elizabeth. [Ibid., p. 604] Now the Skipwith family, first from John Burke, Esq., "A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Extinct and Dormant Baronetcies of England, Ireland, and Scotland" (2nd Edition, London: 1841, reprinted Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1977), pp. 486-489: William Skipwith, Esq. who was the only son of Henry Skipwith, third son (and only one with male heirs) of Sir Richard Skipwith, knt. of Ormesby, Lincolnshire, who m. Mary, a daughter of Sir Ralph Chamberlain, knt. of Gidding, in Suffolk. William Skipwith, Esq. m. Elizabeth, daughter of Richard Redding, Esq, of Harrow on the Hill, and was survived by his son Fulwar Skipwith. Sir Richard Page's coat of arms was: Sable, a fess between three doves argent membered gules. [A. R. Warner, Richmond Herald, "Papworth's Ordinary of British Armorials" Reproduced from the original edition of 1874 (London: Tabard Publications), p. 729]. Note that there was NO bordure, the fess was not dancette'e, and they are not quartered! His crest: Out of a ducal coronet per pale or and gules (another, gules and or) a demi griffin salient per pale, counterchanged, beaked of the second. The doves and tincture in the arms and the griffin in the crest more closely resemble those of the Pages of Kent than they do those of Middlesex (Wembley) which were in general: Or, a fess dancettee between three martlets azure (or sable), a border of the last [Burke's The General Armory, p. 770 and H. Society, Vol. LXV, Middlesex Pedigrees, p. 20, which shows the arms of a "John Page of Wembley" in the parish of Harrow by Clarenceux Camden; and another "John Page of Wembley": Sable a chevron between three martlets, argent in the same reference]. Clearly there were two cadet lines of Pages living in Wembley! The arms and crest are almost identical with those of Peter Page, Esq., Justice of the Peace of East Sheen, co. Surrey who was no doubt related to Sir Richard. On the other hand, the crest of Col. John Page of Virginia and Francis Page of East Bedfont were: A demi-horse forcene (rearing) per pale dancette'e or and azure. Continued in Part II.

I recommend expanding to full screen width before reading this LONG message. Sir Richard Page's 1547, not 1558, PCC will abstract is as follows with modernization of the spelling of the place names: PROB 11/34 [10 Bucke] Date: 22 Sep 1 Edw VI [1547] Testator: Sir Richard Page, knight, of the parish of Flampsted, Herts. Burial request: If he dies within the city of London, his body is to be buried within the parish church of St Mary on the Hyll besides Billingisgate in London (where he is patron). If he dies at his house of Bechewoode otherwise called Saynt Gylis in the Woode, Herts, it is to be buried in the parish church of Flampstede. Bequests: 1. To the parish church of Flampsted, 20s. 2. Whereas Sir William Fitzwilliam (late earl of Southampton), Sir William Parr, knight (late Lord Parr), Sir Thomas Arundell, knight, John Awdley, esq, and others, with their heirs, do stand enfeoffed in all his lands, rents and tenements within the realm of England, to and for the use of certain covenants and articles comprised in a pair of indentures made at the marriage of his daughter Elizabeth Page to William Skypwith (son to William Skipwith of Ormesbye, Lincs, esq), between the testator on the one part and the said William Skipwith of Ormesbye (then esquire, and of late knight); these lands, etc, are to be used to pay off the testator's debts and legacies. 3. To Dame Elizabeth Page (his wife), £100 in old 'Angells' after the rate of 8s the 'Angell' [and list of items, detailed, including a cup given to her by the king when he was prince]; items in the house at the late White Fryers in Fletstrete within the suburbs of London, and also in the said house called Bechewoode (with remainders to his daughter and son in law Elizabeth and William Skipwith and their heirs male; then to Mabell Skipwith their eldest daughter; and then to be equally divided between Mabell's sisters). 4. His wife is to have occupation of his 'chales' and chapel (with remainder to daughter Elizabeth and her heirs). 5. To Elizabeth Skipwith (his daughter), £100 in 'Angells' [and list of items, detailed]. 6. To William Skipwith (his son in law), 2 great grey horses, his great large grey gelding [and list of items, detailed]. 7. To Margaret Smert (his sister), [list of items, detailed]. 8. To Mabell Skipwith (his granddaughter), £40 in 'Angells' at the time of her marriage. 9. To Frances Skipwith (sister of the said Mabell), the same. 10. To Jarrad Harvye of Thyrleghe, Beds, [list of items, detailed]. 11. To Lady Cristian Sapcotts of Huntingdonshire, [list of items, detailed]. 12. To John Potter (his old servant), [list of items, detailed]. 13. To Marmaduke [….]rop (his old servant and now one of the yeomen of the Wardrobe of the Beds with the Queen's Majesty), 4 marks a year during his life out of his lands in London. 14. To Edward Hampden (his servant), £6 13s 4d [and list of items, detailed]. 15. To his loving friend Mr Fitzwilliam (attending upon the King's Majesty in his Privy Chamber), [list of items, detailed]. 16. To Katheryn Verney (his wife's daughter), £20 to her marriage. 17. To Edward Wolf (sometime his servant and now gentleman of the 'celer' unto the King's Majesty), [list of items, detailed]. 18. To 40 of the poorest households in the parishes of Flampsted, Studham and Karington, £20. 19. The rest of his goods are to be sold and the sum of £100 to be made and distributed amongst his daily and household servants. Bequests of Lands: 1. His wife is to enjoy the manor of Bechewood otherwise called Saynt Gilys in the Wood, according to a patent, granted to him by Henry VIII and dated at Tyrlyng 10 Aug 31 Hen VIII [details of conditions] (with remainder to his daughter Elizabeth Skipwith and her heirs; then to his sister Margaret Page otherwise called by her husband Margaret Smart; then to Jarrad Harvy otherwise called Jarrad Smart her son, dwelling at Thirleghe, Beds, and his heirs; then to his cousin John Carleton dwelling in the parish of Walton upon the Temms, Surrey, and his heirs male; then to Anthony ?Sonds in the parish of Throwley, Kent, and his heirs male; then to the heirs of the testator). 2. Lands in London: these are to remain to Elizabeth Skipwithe (his daughter) and to her heirs. 3. The manor of Northall, Bucks (given to him by Henry VIII). He wills that within 3 months after his death Elizabeth (his daughter) and her husband make a sufficient deed with a clause of distress upon the same ground unto Mary Swynnerton (now attendant upon the old Lady Johan Carowe of Ashewater, Devon), and the rent of the same manor to remain to his daughter Elizabeth. [Further minor details concerning the above lands follow]. Executors: Dame Elizabeth Page (his wife), William Skipwithe (his son in law), and John Carleton (his cousin): to each of them £6 13s 4d. Overseer: Sir Thomas Arundell, knight: £5. Additional bequest: To the Right Honourable duke of Somerset, Lord Protector of all the King's Majesties Dominions and Realms, his cup of 'burall' [detailed]. Proved at London, 14 Apr 1551, by his Elizabeth (his relict) and William Skipwith, knight, the executors. A Edmund Page, Gent., born c. 1534, who in 1564 was mentioned in a deposition in the "Patent Rolls" as a gentleman, age 30, servant to Edward Earl of Hertford, in connection with a deed concerning a Robert Austin, citizen and grocer of London. The deposition was made by Sir John White, Lord Mayor of London upon the request of Thomas Bill, citizen and haberdasher, before Thomas Marten of Southwark, public notary on 6 April 1564. He deposed that in June 1562 he knew: Wm. Skipwith of St. Albans, Herts.; Robert Austin, citizen and grocer of London; and, Alice Robert's wife, widow of Henry Duncombe, late of Tiscote, Herts. That in the said month, Austin caused one of deponent's servants to draw a deed, whereby Skipwith should release to Robert Austin all his right in the mansion house and manor of Somertons, and in Myfeld pasture, and lodge in Northeast, county Oxford, then occupied by Henry More. Also in consideration that Austin had lately married Skipwith's natural sister, Alice, to whom he, Skipwith, owed certain sums of money, he gave Robert and Alice the lease dated 8 May 1553, granted by Wm. Anne to Henry Duncombe, for 61 years from the death of Anne, widow. ["Calendar of Patent Rolls, Domestic - Addenda, Elizabeth," Vol. XII, April 1564, pp. 547-8] Edmund Page deposed the same; also that Austin, in consideration of the lease, released the said Skipwith of a debt of 30£, and one of 3£ odd, standing in the shop book of Thomas Bill, citizen and haberdasher; gave him a black gelding worth 20 marks, and repaid 93£, and a noble, paid for redemption of said lease, it having been mortgaged by Alice, in widowhood, to one Hawtry. ["Calendar of Patent Rolls, Domestic Addenda, Elizabeth," Vol. XII, April 1564, pp. 5478.] This Robert Austin is no doubt the same Robert Austin who was referred to as a cousin in the 1558 will of Thomas Page, Gent. Obviously CN Page confused the Richard Page who m. Alice and had the children mentioned above with "Ye Noble Richard." Subsequent messages will illuminate further errors in the work of CN Page about the Pages of Harrow parish in county Middlesex during the 16th, 17th, and 18th centuries --- stay tuned. George W. Page

I recommend expanding to full screen width before reading this LONG message. In 1917 Charles Nash Page in his Page Genealogy Chart #1 (and probably in his book, "History & gen. of the Page fam. from 1257 to the present, with a brief hist. & gen. of the allied fams." Nash & Peck, by C.N. Page. 143p., 1911) incorrectly identified a Sir Richard Page, Knight (who was referred to by King Henry VIII as "Ye Noble Richard") as the progenitor of several of the Pages from Sudbury Court in the parish of Harrow, county Middlesex, Eng.. The chart shows Sir Richard Page to be the brother of Henry Page of Wembley who m.(2) Constance Hodder (sic, Hoddesdon according to his 1558 PCC will) and the father of children Rowland Page; Thomas Page; Agnes Page who m. a Thornton; Dorothy Page who m. William Gerard; and William Page by his wife Alice __?__. This long message corrects the historical record about Sir Richard Page, Knt. and his descendants, which have been incorrectly attributed to "Ye Noble Richard" over the years by several family historians. The Sir Richard Page of King Henry's Court was in personal attendance upon the King's natural son, Henry Fitzroy, and he is mentioned in a letter written by Wolsey to the king in 1525 as having devised the armorial bearings for the boy, who had been created Duke of Richmond. His name also occurs as Vice-Chamberlain of the Dule's household. He was afterwards captain of the king's bodyguard, and enjoyed the favour of the Court, as Cromwell writes to Wolsey, "Mr. Page received your letter directed to my Lady Ann [Boleyn] and will deliver the same. She gave him kind words, but will not promise to speak to the king for you." He was knighted on 3 November 1529 at King of York Palace, now Whitehall, and received a gift of crest and arms quarterly on 1 February 1530/1 from Benolt [Harry Rylands, Esq. "Grantees of Arms Named in Docquets and Patents To The End of The Seventeenth Century (Harleian Society, 1915, p. 188)] He also received the Priority of Thorby in county Essex at the Dissolution. Sir Richard and the poet Sir Thomas Wyatt, who wrote the first English sonnets to Anne Bullen/Boleyn a generation before Shakespeare was born, were sent to the Tower of London on 5 May 1536 on suspicion of having been Anne's lovers. Both were set free on the advise of Thomas Cromwell, Earl of Essex, because the affairs with Anne took place prior to her marriage to Henry VIII. The same source states that Sir Richard Page was "connected with the Fitzwilliams and the Russells." These people were: Sir William Fitzwilliam, kt. 1513, 1st Earl of Southampton in 1537; and, Sir John Russell, kt. 1513, Lord Russell 1539, created Earl of BEDFORD 1550, who were both Keepers of the Privy Seal of Henry VIII. [J.D. Mackie, "The Earlier Tudors 1485-1558," (Oxford & New York: Oxford University Press, 1993), p. 647]. After his close call he was banished from the court and the presence of King Henry VIII, and he supposedly located in Essex where he supposedly died c. 1558 according to CN Page in 1917. In truth Sir Richard Page m .Elizabeth, the daughter of Sir Fulk Bourchier, Knt. 2nd Barion Fitz-Warine, who was summoned to parliament on 19August 1472. This nobleman m. Elizabeth, a sister and heiress of John, Lord Dynham. Elizabeth m. 1st to Sir Edward Stanhope, Knt., and 2ndly, to Sir Richard Page, knt." Elizabeth Bourchier/Stanhope and Sir Richard Page had a daughter, Elizabeth Page, who was their only daughter and heiress (i.e., they had no surviving sons or other daughters!). He was referred to as the "right honorable Sir Richard Page, knt. of Beechwood, in the county of Hertford, of the privy council of King Henry VIII." The daughter, Elizabeth Page, m. as his first wife Sir William Skipwith of Ormesby, Lincolnshire who received his knighthood in the Battle of Muscleborough, 1st (year of reign) of Edward VI. In the 6th of the same reign he was returned to parliament by the county of Lincoln, and was sheriff, in the 4th (year of reign) of Queen Elizabeth. [ [John Burke, Esq., "Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland," Vol. 1 "History of the Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland" (London: 1834-1838, reprinted Baltimore: Clearfield {Genealogical Publishing Co., 1977}, p. 604] Here's what I found out about the Stanhope family: (Stanhope) "Edward (Sir) of Rampton, who received the honor of knighthood upon the field of battle from Henry VII for his distinguished conduct against the Cornish rebels. Sir Edward wedded first, Avelina, daughter of Sir Gervase Clifton, K.B. by whom he had two sons, Richard and Michael. He m. secondly, Elizabeth, daughter of Fulk Bourchier, Lord Fitzwarine, and had only one daughter Anne, the second wife of Protector Somerset. Richard Stanhope, the elder son of Sir Edward, leaving at his decease in 1529, a daughter only, the male line was continued by his brother (the second son) Sir Michael Stanhope, an eminent person in the reign of Henry VIII, who obtained from that monarch, a grant of the house and site of the monastery of Shelford." [Ibid., p. 467.] Now the interesting part concerning the Bourchier family: Sir Fulk Bourchier, Knt. 2nd Barion Fitz-Warine, who was summoned to parliament on 19August 1472. This nobleman m. Elizabeth, a sister and heiress of John, Lord Dynham, and had issue, John his successor; Joane, m. James, Lord Audley; Elizabeth m. 1st to Sir Edward Stanhope, Knt., and 2ndly, to Sir Richard Page, knt." Elizabeth Bourchier/Stanhope and Sir Richard Page had a daughter, Elizabeth Page, who was their only daughter and heiress (i.e., they had no surviving sons or daughters!). He was referred to as the "right honorable Sir Richard Page, knt. of Beechwood, in the county of Hertford, of the privy council of King Henry VIII." The daughter, Elizabeth Page, m. as his first wife Sir William Skipwith of Ormesby, etc. (including co. Lincoln) who received his knighthood in the Battle of Muscleborough, 1st (year of reign) of Edward VI. In the 6th of the same reign he was returned to parliament by the county of Lincoln, and was sheriff, in the 4th (year of reign) of Queen Elizabeth. [Ibid., p. 604] Now the Skipwith family, first from John Burke, Esq., "A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Extinct and Dormant Baronetcies of England, Ireland, and Scotland" (2nd Edition, London: 1841, reprinted Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1977), pp. 486-489: William Skipwith, Esq. who was the only son of Henry Skipwith, third son (and only one with male heirs) of Sir Richard Skipwith, knt. of Ormesby, Lincolnshire, who m. Mary, a daughter of Sir Ralph Chamberlain, knt. of Gidding, in Suffolk. William Skipwith, Esq. m. Elizabeth, daughter of Richard Redding, Esq, of Harrow on the Hill, and was survived by his son Fulwar Skipwith. Sir Richard Page's coat of arms was: Sable, a fess between three doves argent membered gules. [A. R. Warner, Richmond Herald, "Papworth's Ordinary of British Armorials" Reproduced from the original edition of 1874 (London: Tabard Publications), p. 729]. Note that there was NO bordure, the fess was not dancette'e, and they are not quartered! His crest: Out of a ducal coronet per pale or and gules (another, gules and or) a demi griffin salient per pale, counterchanged, beaked of the second. The doves and tincture in the arms and the griffin in the crest more closely resemble those of the Pages of Kent than they do those of Middlesex (Wembley) which were in general: Or, a fess dancettee between three martlets azure (or sable), a border of the last [Burke's The General Armory, p. 770 and H. Society, Vol. LXV, Middlesex Pedigrees, p. 20, which shows the arms of a "John Page of Wembley" in the parish of Harrow by Clarenceux Camden; and another "John Page of Wembley": Sable a chevron between three martlets, argent in the same reference]. Clearly there were two cadet lines of Pages living in Wembley! The arms and crest are almost identical with those of Peter Page, Esq., Justice of the Peace of East Sheen, co. Surrey who was no doubt related to Sir Richard. On the other hand, the crest of Col. John Page of Virginia and Francis Page of East Bedfont were: A demi-horse forcene (rearing) per pale dancette'e or and azure. Continued in Part II.

The subject of your message is my belief 100%. I have unsubscribed to a couple rootswebs from the reason that no information could be as inportant as what it takes to delete all those messages like you said. I took off a couple days and I had 140 of this kind of messages with absoutely nothing of importance. They are nothing but chat rooms. Dont look for the webowners to correct it. B'nard. -----Original Message----- From: Donna Mariner <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, September 21, 2000 6:05 PM Subject: [PAGE] SUPERFLOUS EMAILS >I am sending this to each list I belong to - sorry if it offends anyone! > >On one of the lists to which I subscribe, the Listowner has continually >suggested that we listen to ROOTSWEB'S often repeated plea to try to >limit our LIST emails to ones that actually mention ancestors' names and >have information contained in them. However, the attitude most >Listmembers have, is "Boring! No fun! Not personal enough!" We can all >understand that, but with all the rest of you, we also have to view many >emails that are "trash" because they are totally useless comments. >Maybe there's a happy medium? > >The Listowner states that > >> "e-mails that contain only acknowledgment words, >> such as "Me, too!", "Thank you" , "Jan, you're right!", "Great information!" with >> no further explanation or details, only serve to further clog the Rootsweb email >> archive files. " >> >Remember, each email one sends is going into the Rootsweb archives - in >addition to being sent to hundreds of other list members. Most of us >just quickly delete those two-word messages and go on, but wouldn't it >be more conscientious and space saving (Rootsweb is always running out >of space) if one responded privately with the "Yes, you're right" >messages? Or if responding to specifics that are important to all of >us, concerning ancestor's facts, one included just a bit of the message >you're responding to, so that everyone on the list will be able to >associate the responses with the original messages? Sometimes, the >keeping of the same subject gives us hints....but what WAS the original >message? > >If email is to only be understood by the initiating person and the >previous email's sender, why include it on the list? > >I am not a Listowner, so obviously I have no right to suggest to >individual lists how to operate - but I AM a contributor to Rootsweb and >feel that the archives need to have unnecessary correspondence reduced >as much as possible. > >Comments welcome, of course, but keep it privately to me unless you feel >ALL should hear. > >Thanks. Donna Broyles Braden Mariner > > > > >==== PAGE Mailing List ==== >PAGE list website - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/lists/PAGE.htm > >

I am sending this to each list I belong to - sorry if it offends anyone! On one of the lists to which I subscribe, the Listowner has continually suggested that we listen to ROOTSWEB'S often repeated plea to try to limit our LIST emails to ones that actually mention ancestors' names and have information contained in them. However, the attitude most Listmembers have, is "Boring! No fun! Not personal enough!" We can all understand that, but with all the rest of you, we also have to view many emails that are "trash" because they are totally useless comments. Maybe there's a happy medium? The Listowner states that > "e-mails that contain only acknowledgment words, > such as "Me, too!", "Thank you" , "Jan, you're right!", "Great information!" with > no further explanation or details, only serve to further clog the Rootsweb email > archive files. " > Remember, each email one sends is going into the Rootsweb archives - in addition to being sent to hundreds of other list members. Most of us just quickly delete those two-word messages and go on, but wouldn't it be more conscientious and space saving (Rootsweb is always running out of space) if one responded privately with the "Yes, you're right" messages? Or if responding to specifics that are important to all of us, concerning ancestor's facts, one included just a bit of the message you're responding to, so that everyone on the list will be able to associate the responses with the original messages? Sometimes, the keeping of the same subject gives us hints....but what WAS the original message? If email is to only be understood by the initiating person and the previous email's sender, why include it on the list? I am not a Listowner, so obviously I have no right to suggest to individual lists how to operate - but I AM a contributor to Rootsweb and feel that the archives need to have unnecessary correspondence reduced as much as possible. Comments welcome, of course, but keep it privately to me unless you feel ALL should hear. Thanks. Donna Broyles Braden Mariner

According to William Addams Reitwiesner (http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/wreitwiesn/candidates2000/cheney.html): 1. John Page = Mary Marsh 2. Benjamin Page = Marie Whittier 3. Benjamin Page = Elizabeth Lewis 4. Elizabeth Page = Timothy Emerson 5. Jonathan Emerson = Mary Cummings 6. Rachel Emerson = Joseph Fletcher 7. Lucy Fletcher = Elias Eaton Cheney 8. Samuel Fletcher Cheney = Ella A. Phillips 9. Thomas Herbert Cheney = Margaret Ellen Tyler 10. Richard Herbert Cheney = Marjorie Lorraine Dickey 11. Richard Bruce "Dick" Cheney, Republican vice-presidential nominee

I have birth and death date information now on my paternal PAGE grandparents. Leonidas Tyson Page, born 6/20/1888, died 4/22/1948. Lou Repsey (Bryant) Page, born 6/17/1891, died 8/29/1971 Buried in Sea Gate Cemetery located on 52nd Street in Wilmington NC. Hope someone can help me gather more ancestor information. Danette (Page) Thompson [email protected]

> Dear List: > > Does any one have information concerning (Elder) E. G. Page of > Strafford Co., New Hampshire ca 1850? If so, would they contact me > privately, please? > > Thank you,

A great site for help finding & recieving photos of headstones http://www.headstonehunter.com/index.html also http://raogk.rootsweb.com/listing.htm MaryMagnuson Lamar County,TX

Sorry I missed the roll call deadline of 9-5-00, but have been offline for past 8 weeks due to cross-country move. My husband's PAGE line has brick-walled with Lindsay (Lindsey, Linsy) PAGE, b. ?(VA or CAROLINA best guess) c.1772-4, m. Nelson CO VA c.1794-5. Several children, widowed, moved to Warren Co KY c. 1799-1802 and m. second wife Mary? 1790 census has Lindsay in Amherst, VA, 1910 in Bowling Green, KY Son William S. PAGE b. Warren Co KY c.1810, d.c. 1860, buried "Grinstead's yard," Bowling Green, Warren Co, KY Married Elizabeth Garland. Son John Henry PAGE b. KY (Bowling Green, Warren co)c.1847. Fought 26th KY (Union) infantry 1861-65. D. & buried Bowling Green c. 1886. Married Mary Ellen Rhodes (Rhoades). Son Thomas Potter Page, b. 1882 Smiths Grove, Warren Co KY. Moved to Wichita, KS c. 1889 with mother and 3 sibs (Charles B., Emily Jane, William). Worked Rock Island RR. Married Mabell MONTGOMERY. Son Thomas Frederick Page, b. 1916 Wichita (sedgwick co) KS. Marrie Mary Lou O'Hara (b. MO) at St Anthony's Church. Fought WWII Pacific Theater in Air Air Corps, later in Air Force. Died New Orleans LA in 1989. Ashes scattered at his request at Hannibal, MO into Mississippi River. Had 5 sibs: Robert, Jessie, Mabell, Emma Maude ("Katherine"), Clyde. Son, Thomas Leslie Page b. Wichita 1937 (my husband) We have had a clue that Linsy may have been born in SC, but no other/confirmatory info. Family tradition is that these PAGEs came from Northumberland region in Britain. Also-- these were educated people, who could all read and write, though professions are listed variously as farmer or carpenter through several generations. Hope this helps someone... ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail

I received the following from another genealogy list that I am on, and thought it worth forwarding. MaryM I received this message after it was forwarded to the INGENWEB state coordinator: About 2 weeeks ago we received a complaint from an Archives submitter that her materials were found on a genealogy subscription service: www.familydiscovery.com The submitter was able to do a little digging and found that they were linking to her files housed on her server, but shrink-wrapped inside a frame so it appears to be THEIR work. About 10 days ago, to investigate this, I signed up with familydiscovery. To date, I have not received a user id or password to get inside. The registered owners of the web site gave bogus telephone numbers in their registration. One number goes to a recorded message line; the other to a carpet company. Some of the e-mail adds on their web site bounce. Standing on the outside and looking through the window, it appears that several folks' web sites have been prize-mined: http://www.familydiscovery.com/whatsnew.htm The Storey Co., IA and the Washington Co., PA stuff seem to come from USGenWeb sites. Some of the other IA and NC stuff seems to come from non-USGW sites. None of the materials seem to be housed at either rootsweb or usgennet. If anyone out there is or has been a member of familydiscovery -- or has been ripped off by them, I ["Joy Fisher" [email protected]>] would like to hear from you. Permission is granted to forward this message.

Would anyone have any information on SOLOMON PAGE (b. 1808) and wife, JANE PAGE (b. 1813), who originally came from either NC or SC and raised a family in McNairy Co., TN.? One of their daughters was LUCINDA PAGE (b. 1837 TN.) who married John William Henry Gilton 10 May 1857 in Old Tishomingo Co., MS. and moved back to Selmer, McNairy Co., TN. They were my g grandparents. Any information appreciated. E. J. Wilson

Was out of town so haven't read all of the postings as yet. Looking for Charles Percy (Percival) PAGE b. 1878/79 in NYC was still alive in Wilamette, IL in 1924 and later. He worked for the RR. His father was Charles W. PAGE of VT and his mother Mary Imogene LEWIS/PAGE of NY. Gwen in WA St.