And I have known George for YEARS. He has been nothing BUT polite, courteous and MOST helpful. Please re-read whatever e-mail you saw, and note who really wrote it. Brenda Hare Cedar Rapids, Iowa ----- Original Message ----- From: "George W. Page" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 8:01 PM Subject: Re: [PAGE] is there a list moderator on this list? > Look again closely at the message you are referring to because I have NEVER > sent you a message directly or via the Page list! > > George W. Page > ___________ > At 08:47 PM 1/18/2001 -0500, you wrote: > >I didn't appreciate opening my e-mail and seeing the rude response from > >George W. Page. It was in poor taste. If I wanted to hear that type of > >language I would stand on a street corner somewhere. > >so sorry - unsubscribe me from this list. > > > > > >==== PAGE Mailing List ==== > >PAGE list website - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/lists/PAGE.htm > > > ==== PAGE Mailing List ==== > PAGE list website - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/lists/PAGE.htm >

I agree. MaryM Lamar Co.TX ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 5:30 PM Subject: [PAGE] George W. Page I too would like to publically praise Mr. Page for his help, advice and contributions to the list. ........ Rick in MA ==== PAGE Mailing List ==== PAGE list website - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/lists/PAGE.htm

I am having great difficulty with this family and I'm hoping someone can help me. I am searching for descendants of Isaac Page born 1834 in Hillington Norfolk, son of James and Martha Page. He went to the mines in Yorkshire somewhere between the 1861 and 1871 census' and married Mary Elizabeth Theaker October 14, 1866 in Hinderwell, Yorkshire. They had several children: John 1868, Isaac 1872 (he was a missionary for the Inland China Missions and he died childless in Ontario, Canada), Martha Hannah 1874, William 1875, Sarah A. 1877 and Harry 1879. If anyone has information on anyone in this family, I'd appreciate hearing from you. (I have information from the 1881 census on Isaac's family.) Is there an 1891 census that they may be on? Martha is my line. Thank you very much. Sincerely, Shirley Lyster Alberta, Canada

I agree with Michael. Janet Littlejohn, Columbus, MS Quoting M Page <[email protected]>: > Dear fellow PAGE listers > > I got up this morning in snowy Peterborough (all of half an inch > of snow) > and saw a reply to a note that I sent to George in response to > one that he > had posted on the list. His cheery words brought a smile to my > sleep > induced haze. I thought nothing of the words he used and I > certainly took > no offence. > > Then I saw the note from D Cuillard and I couldn't believe my > eyes. I am > sorry D Cuillard if the phrase George used to me caused you > offence. But if > you are doing genealogical research you should be prepared to > find some > very rude words indeed in the historical documents that you will > come > across. And, if you haven't already joined other lists, allow me > to say > that you are likely to find that some of them have very fierce > arguments, > with much personal animosity. This is a very tame list. > > Now let me say something about George. In the time that I have > been on this > list (some 18 months) I have found him an extremely knowledgeable > > researcher of all things PAGE. He has tracked down original > sources and > shared them with the list. He has helped people put together > their family > lines. And as far as I know he has done all this freely and > without thought > that his own research would be helped. I have never met him > personally, nor > even talked with him by phone. I guess there is a faint > possibility that we > might be related(!) but, without the DNA tests, I don't know. > However, as > far as I am concerned, George is an OK guy. > > Best wishes to all of you statesiders on this inauguration eve. > > Michael > (Peterborough, Cambs, UK) > > > > ==== PAGE Mailing List ==== > PAGE list website - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/lists/PAGE.htm > > ------------------------------------------------------ This mail is sent through MUW Webmail: webmail.MUW.Edu

Dear fellow PAGE listers I got up this morning in snowy Peterborough (all of half an inch of snow) and saw a reply to a note that I sent to George in response to one that he had posted on the list. His cheery words brought a smile to my sleep induced haze. I thought nothing of the words he used and I certainly took no offence. Then I saw the note from D Cuillard and I couldn't believe my eyes. I am sorry D Cuillard if the phrase George used to me caused you offence. But if you are doing genealogical research you should be prepared to find some very rude words indeed in the historical documents that you will come across. And, if you haven't already joined other lists, allow me to say that you are likely to find that some of them have very fierce arguments, with much personal animosity. This is a very tame list. Now let me say something about George. In the time that I have been on this list (some 18 months) I have found him an extremely knowledgeable researcher of all things PAGE. He has tracked down original sources and shared them with the list. He has helped people put together their family lines. And as far as I know he has done all this freely and without thought that his own research would be helped. I have never met him personally, nor even talked with him by phone. I guess there is a faint possibility that we might be related(!) but, without the DNA tests, I don't know. However, as far as I am concerned, George is an OK guy. Best wishes to all of you statesiders on this inauguration eve. Michael (Peterborough, Cambs, UK)

Look again closely at the message you are referring to because I have NEVER sent you a message directly or via the Page list! George W. Page ___________ At 08:47 PM 1/18/2001 -0500, you wrote: >I didn't appreciate opening my e-mail and seeing the rude response from >George W. Page. It was in poor taste. If I wanted to hear that type of >language I would stand on a street corner somewhere. >so sorry - unsubscribe me from this list. > > >==== PAGE Mailing List ==== >PAGE list website - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/lists/PAGE.htm

I didn't appreciate opening my e-mail and seeing the rude response from George W. Page. It was in poor taste. If I wanted to hear that type of language I would stand on a street corner somewhere. so sorry - unsubscribe me from this list.

Michael: You're a 'smart ass!" Mia culpa, he was of course b. in 1613 not 1513, and my typo wasn't caused from drinking water! George W. Page +++++++++ At 08:35 PM 1/18/2001 +0000, you wrote: >Gosh George, John of Haverhill MA was long lived 1513 - 1687. There must be >something good in the water over there - I'm coming over for a week at the >end of February so I'll have to try and drink some. ;-) > >All the best > >Michael >(Peterborough, Cambs, UK)

As announced previously, Oxford Ancestors now have a Y chromosome testing system that we previously discussed on this website! They have apparently abandoned the "Male Match" scheme for something that looks even better. The price of $150 seems reasonable, and we have over 20 male PAGEs of many different PAGE lines who want to participate. We need a male PAGE who is a direct descendant of John Page of Haverhill, MA to also participate to establish the baseline markers for that line. He was b. Feb. 6, 1513/14 and d. on 23 Nov. 1687 in Haverhill, Essex Co., MA. He was m. to Mary Marsh, the dau, of George Marsh and Elizabeth Key. We also need a male PAGE descendant of John and Phoebe (Payne) Page, from Dedham, Essex, Eng. who came to New England with the Winthrop Fleet of 1630. He d. 18 Dec. 1676, aged about 90. George W. Page 1100 Cataway Place Bryans Road, MD 20616

As announced previously, Oxford Ancestors now have a Y chromosome testing system that we previously discussed on this website! They have apparently abandoned the "Male Match" scheme for something that looks even better. The prices seem reasonable, and we have the following named male PAGEs who have agreed to participate for whom I have postal mail addresses. If I have overlooked anyone, please contact me ASAP, and send me your postal address. 1. George W. Page, of the George Page of Branford, CT (c. 1662); 2. Cecil Wray Page, of the John Page of Williamson,Virginia (c. 1650); 3. & 4. John W. Page and Bob Page who trace their ancestry to Axelheath Page of VA; 5. James F. Page from the Page line of Dr. John Page of Farmington, CT; 6. Clarence Page from the Page line of Dr. John Page of Farmington, CT; 7. Ronald W. Page of the line of Christopher Page/Paige, born 1796 (if age 65 in 1860 census LaCrosse Co, WI) in NY (if state listed is correct); 8. Michael Page from Cambridgeshire, Eng.; 9. Donald W. Page of the line of Robert Page (m. Rachel Brockman) of Goochland Co., VA; 10. Bob Page of the Robert Page of Ormesby, co. Norfolk; 11. Warren Edward Page III of a North Carolina line of PAGEs that may have come from VA; 12. Robert Page- of 1600s Rotherhithe area origin, S.E. London, UK; 13. Mathew A. Page possibly a descendant of Joseph Page Sr. of Monmouth Co, NJ; 14. Ralph Page of Simi Valley, CA from an unknown line; 15. Mike Page of Alberta, Canada descended from a William F Page who married a Delilah Moore in Bourbon County KY Dec 1813; 16. Robert Page of Kingwood, TX If you are a male with the last name of Page acquired by birth (NOT adoption) you may want to participate in the DNA test to help us determine and sort out the various Page lines of descent. The details of the test are explained on the Oxford Ancestors website: http://www.oxfordancestors.com/ Oxford Ancestors has been contacted to verify if they will honor their reduced fee for over ten participants; but they have not responded. Step 1. IF and WHEN they do so, I'll submit the addresses of the people listed above plus additional names and addresses that I receive before transmitting the list. Step 2. You will receive in the mail a DNA sampling kit. This contains the small brush used to collect cells from your inner cheek easily and painlessly. Step 3. Return the DNA brush with your payment cheque. It will not be banked until your results have been mailed back to you. Expect delivery within 28 days of our receipt of your sample. Step 4. Oxford Ancestors states they will not use your DNA for any other purpose than the tests you have requested. Your results will be disclosed only to you, and your DNA will be destroyed after the results have been posted back to you. Step 5. We will of course want to share the DNA results (marker numbers) with each other to help us sort out the various Page family lines both in America and abroad. Please contact me ASAP if you are a Male with the birth name of Page and are interested so that we can order together at a reduced cost. I will try and get a commitment from Oxford Ancestors to honor the same price ($150) for additional PAGE surnamed individuals in the future, but first they have to communicate more than just an acknowledgement E-mail. George W. Page 1100 Cataway Place Bryans Road, MD 20616 (301)283-2275

Haston, My PAGE ancestors ended up in Alabama and Texas as well....pre-Civil War. I would like to honor them today by proudly celebrating Martin Luther King Day, and celebrating my PAGE ancestors' participation in the Civil Rights Movement of the 1960s. I would further like to thank my PAGE ancestors for teaching me that a cause fought valiantly 140 years ago, is not necessarily a cause worth fighting for. It is always best to acknowledge the wrongs of the past, correct them and move on. That is what has made me proud to be a PAGE. Blake Page, Southern native ---------- From: Haston Magnuson[SMTP:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 8:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAGE] Special Day Did it ever occur to you that the same difference of opinion we have, could be the very same reason our ancestors moved to differnt parts of the country ? Do you know that your PAGE ancestors stayed in the North ? Well, mine didn't. Mine wound up in Alabama & Texas. Interesting thought ,wouldn't you agree? MaryM ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [PAGE] Special Day Southern traitors- not northern aggressors. Don't muddy the PAGE site with such nonsense. ==== PAGE Mailing List ==== PAGE list website - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/lists/PAGE.htm

In a message dated 1/15/2001 5:03:22 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > "Soldiers (who are mortal enemies) don't hate each other, they just kill > each other!" > > George W. Page > Col. US Army (Ret.) > > > Col, You are right about Good Soldiers. Many of us have lost relatives in Wars from the beginning of time and present and future Soldiers will continue to spill their blood for what "Their Country Thinks is Right." Remember our lost ones and praise their desire to fight for their county and don't forget Why they were fighting but do forget and forgive the soldiers from the opposing forces. Remember they were fighting for the same reasons our relatives were - - Their County. Michael W. Tiller SMSgt USAF (Ret.)

Seeking Charles Percy PAGE b. 1879 in NYC to Charles W. PAGE and Mary Imogene LEWIS PAGE. He lived in IL as a child and worked for the RR as an adult. Lost track of him ca. 1933. Would like to find him. Gwen in WA

At 08:35 AM 1/15/2001 -0800, CHARLES S BRACK <[email protected]> wrote: >I'll make a few statements: >I am a senior citizen, born in CT and lived most of my life in the >South--I don't remember my birth state. > >I did see the last Civil War veteran before he died. He was a Confederate >and was a combatant. Our group of children spent a few hours with him. He >never once mentioned the word "Yank" or otherwise bad-mouthed them. > >I'm also retired military and had friends that were in the worst of WWII. >One was a Bataan Death March survivor and he never once mentioned it or >did I ever hear him espouse anything on the Japanese. The only thing I >remember him telling me that he was going to leave everything to his >nephew who was a Viet Nam POW--and he did say that the nephew went >through hell--he never mentioned his hell. "Soldiers (who are mortal enemies) don't hate each other, they just kill each other!" George W. Page Col. US Army (Ret.)

I'll make a few statements: I am a senior citizen, born in CT and lived most of my life in the South--I don't remember my birth state. I did see the last Civil War veteran before he died. He was a Confederate and was a combatant. Our group of children spent a few hours with him. He never once mentioned the word "Yank" or otherwise bad-mouthed them. I'm also retired military and had friends that were in the worst of WWII. One was a Bataan Death March survivor and he never once mentioned it or did I ever hear him espouse anything on the Japanese. The only thing I remember him telling me that he was going to leave everything to his nephew who was a Viet Nam POW--and he did say that the nephew went through hell--he never mentioned his hell. I live in TN and our present governor was born in Illinois and also the previous mayor of Nashville was born in Upstate NY. The former Gov. of Texas and new President was born in New Haven, CT. I feel that most have gotten over the Civil War and moved on. thanks, Charles

For George Page: Please send the DNA information amd web sote again and include myself and Ethylmae Page at: [email protected] Thank y ou. Thomas Page Mericle Bodega Bay, California

Yes mam, I agree with you whole heartedly. MaryM > In the Great State of TEXAS, this coming Friday, January 19th, is > > Thank goodness for all our ancestors who fought for whatever they believed in. That truly tells us we live in a great country where we have the freedom to live our convictions. That is why our ancestors came here in the first place. They didn't have the right to defend their convictions. Perish the thought it would be any other way in this wonderful country of ours. Laurel Holder Gallegos descendant of Abigail Page of somewhere in the east. I'll find her someday.

on 1/14/01 7:18 PM, Haston Magnuson at [email protected] wrote: > In the Great State of TEXAS, this coming Friday, January 19th, is > officially a State Holiday. All State employees will be off for the > Holiday. > This Friday, we will be proudly showing our true colors in Texas, as > it is Confederate Day. My Stars & Bars will be waving in honor of all > my GRIGG,SMALLWOOD,ZELLNER,POLAND, > KIRKHAM,HAYGOOD,&ALLISON > ancestors who fought & shed their blood for what they believed in. And > a prayer will be said for those of my ancestors who perished in the > War of Northern Aggression . > My gr-gr-grandfather,John Wesley Grigg, spent the final days of the > war in a prison called LookOut Point in Maryland. > Mary Magnuson > Lamar Co.TX > > > > ==== PAGE Mailing List ==== > PAGE list website - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/lists/PAGE.htm > > Thank goodness for all our ancestors who fought for whatever they believed in. That truly tells us we live in a great country where we have the freedom to live our convictions. That is why our ancestors came here in the first place. They didn't have the right to defend their convictions. Perish the thought it would be any other way in this wonderful country of ours. Laurel Holder Gallegos descendant of Abigail Page of somewhere in the east. I'll find her someday.

Did it ever occur to you that the same difference of opinion we have, could be the very same reason our ancestors moved to differnt parts of the country ? Do you know that your PAGE ancestors stayed in the North ? Well, mine didn't. Mine wound up in Alabama & Texas. Interesting thought ,wouldn't you agree? MaryM ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [PAGE] Special Day Southern traitors- not northern aggressors. Don't muddy the PAGE site with such nonsense.

In the Great State of TEXAS, this coming Friday, January 19th, is officially a State Holiday. All State employees will be off for the Holiday. This Friday, we will be proudly showing our true colors in Texas, as it is Confederate Day. My Stars & Bars will be waving in honor of all my GRIGG,SMALLWOOD,ZELLNER,POLAND, KIRKHAM,HAYGOOD,&ALLISON ancestors who fought & shed their blood for what they believed in. And a prayer will be said for those of my ancestors who perished in the War of Northern Aggression . My gr-gr-grandfather,John Wesley Grigg, spent the final days of the war in a prison called LookOut Point in Maryland. Mary Magnuson Lamar Co.TX