Has there been a genealogy done on the family and descendants of John PAGE and wife Phoebe PAYNE of Watertown and Groton, MA, 1630 onward? All I have is the names and I would like to know more about them. thanks, Charles

Fellow listers: I am sorry to prolong this discussion but today I received this item from Carol Young. I thought I would share it with you all because I believe it is the first time that I have ever received anything from her and I don't believe that she has ever posted anything to the list in the 18 months that I have been on it. I have removed her email address because I don't want anybody to send her emails criticising her position. But given that George has contributed 71 items in the past 18 months I think I know whose contribution to the list I value the more highly. By the way I have been in private correspondence with the originator of this conversation thread and explained the position to her. I don't suppose she has accepted the explanation but I think she understands how the correspondence came to be on the list. Best wishes to all, Michael -----Original Message----- From: CAROL P YOUNG Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 8:03 PM To: M Page Subject: Re: [PAGE] is there a list moderator on this list? I, too, am adamant that George responded in quite poor taste. I, too, belong to other genealogical mailing lists, have for a couple of years, and have NEVER come across evenly remotely similar language. Even though we are all adults and frequently exposed to such language, it is NOT acceptable. You should BOTH be removed by Rootsweb management! Carol Young

Hello once again, Brenda, Here's a little tidbit to add to your note book on another John Page: From : Ancestral Lines :third edition compiled by Carl Boyer, 3rd, Santa Clarita, California, 1998; ISBN 0-936124-18-0; Library of Congress Catalog Card Number 97-078403 Page 699 Margaret WOOD (dau. of Col. Thomas WOOD & probably by third wife Rebeckah) b. 1 March 1687; m. Swansea 21 May 1715 John PAGE. This is a one line item - part of a seven page segment dealing with WOOD in this book and may be worth a bit of investigation if you are not already aware of it. Bill Harvey [email protected] Brenda wrote: > > I think I "may" have found the birth my most elusive ancestor, John Page. > > Does anyone have information regarding any Page families that lived in, or > had children in Rehoboth, Mass? Time period would be mid 1600's to early > 1700's. > > All help greatly appreciated. > > ==== PAGE Mailing List ==== > PAGE list website - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/lists/PAGE.htm

Hi, I looked in my "Carpenter Memorial" by Amos B. Carpenter, detailing the line of Rehoboth Carpenters. I found 4 Page ladies married to Carpenters. Elizabeth pg 75, Hannah T. pg 479, Jane pg 432 and Minnie pg 718. OH my gosh!! Elizabeth is married to Thomas Carpenter #205 who is Uncle to my GGGGGGrandfather Jeremiah #669 m. to Eliz Reynolds. The book is wrong in it has my Jeremiah as son of Oliver #54 but he is actually his grandson by Christopher #201 Wow! Double cousins that far back. Elizabeth is of Westerly, RI married 4 July 1737 All Oliver's children born in Kingston,RI Hannah T. is married to Timothy E. Carpenter born 10 Aug 1812. They married on 11 Jan 1844. She born 1 Aug 1818. One of them died on 20 May 1890 does know who. Jane is married to Warren Carpenter #3937, Son of Caleb #1888, who was born 6 July 1803. They married on 16 January 1833. He died 14 July 1867. A cabinet maker in Fall River, Mass. Minnie married Haynes Weston Carpenter #7578 son of Benajah S #6170, was born on 8 Aug 1865 in Haverhill, NH. Minnie is of sutton Vt. They resided at Sutton, VT Hope this helps someone. Feel free to share. I will try to put on list. Linda Page Hillary Hannah in Albuq. At 08:01 PM 1/23/01 -0600, you wrote: >I think I "may" have found the birth my most elusive ancestor, John Page. > >Does anyone have information regarding any Page families that lived in, or >had children in Rehoboth, Mass? Time period would be mid 1600's to early >1700's. > >All help greatly appreciated. > > >==== PAGE Mailing List ==== >PAGE list website - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/lists/PAGE.htm > > >

I think I "may" have found the birth my most elusive ancestor, John Page. Does anyone have information regarding any Page families that lived in, or had children in Rehoboth, Mass? Time period would be mid 1600's to early 1700's. All help greatly appreciated.

Brenda, you hit the nail squarely on the head - come on, folks - enough already - let's find ancestors! Carol At 06:46 PM 01/23/2001, Brenda wrote: >I personally had no problem with the language used, and I think it's time we >all move on and get past this. > >We are presumably all descendants of various Page lines, and I would assume >we all joined this list to help find our ancestors. > >Let's get past this issue and start searching for those lost Page people! > >Brenda Page Hare > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Blyden Potts" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 6:12 PM >Subject: [PAGE] PAGE-L how are rules handled? > > > > Unless I am quite mistaken about what was perceived to be offensive, > > I personally did not find that language offensive. However, I am a bit > > concerned about how the whole thing is being handled. If a person has > > a complaint about language, there should be guidelines about what > > language the community of emailers deems inappropriate and there > > should be guidelines about how to handle situations that arise. There > > appears to be a process in place here, and presumably it is being > > followed, which is as things should be. > > > > The thing that is worrysome is the rationale behind statements like this: > > > > > > >I believe it is the first time that I have ever received anything from >her > > >and I don't believe that she has ever posted anything to the list in the >18 > > >months that I have been on it. I have removed her email address because I > > >don't want anybody to send her emails criticising her position. But given > > >that George has contributed 71 items in the past 18 months I think I know > > >whose contribution to the list I value the more highly. > > > > This suggests that a determination of whether the behavior is appropriate > > or not, and the handling of it, is dependent on an estimation of the > > contribution > > the party in question has made to the community. Reductio ad absurdum, > > this is akin to Presidential pardons for campaign contributors or not > > prosecuting > > a murder charge against a war hero or philanthropist. > > > > I would hope that differential participation of members in the mailing >list > > would > > NOT be allowed to bias or influence enforcement of the rules, and I do not > > think > > it is wise to issue statements that give the impression that this is how > > things > > are done. > > > > Respectfully, > > Blyden Potts > > > > > > ==== PAGE Mailing List ==== > > PAGE list website - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/lists/PAGE.htm > > > > >==== PAGE Mailing List ==== >PAGE list website - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/lists/PAGE.htm Carol C-H <[email protected]> http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/ If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change your attitude. Don't complain. ~Maya Angelou~

Unless I am quite mistaken about what was perceived to be offensive, I personally did not find that language offensive. However, I am a bit concerned about how the whole thing is being handled. If a person has a complaint about language, there should be guidelines about what language the community of emailers deems inappropriate and there should be guidelines about how to handle situations that arise. There appears to be a process in place here, and presumably it is being followed, which is as things should be. The thing that is worrysome is the rationale behind statements like this: >I believe it is the first time that I have ever received anything from her >and I don't believe that she has ever posted anything to the list in the 18 >months that I have been on it. I have removed her email address because I >don't want anybody to send her emails criticising her position. But given >that George has contributed 71 items in the past 18 months I think I know >whose contribution to the list I value the more highly. This suggests that a determination of whether the behavior is appropriate or not, and the handling of it, is dependent on an estimation of the contribution the party in question has made to the community. Reductio ad absurdum, this is akin to Presidential pardons for campaign contributors or not prosecuting a murder charge against a war hero or philanthropist. I would hope that differential participation of members in the mailing list would NOT be allowed to bias or influence enforcement of the rules, and I do not think it is wise to issue statements that give the impression that this is how things are done. Respectfully, Blyden Potts

I personally had no problem with the language used, and I think it's time we all move on and get past this. We are presumably all descendants of various Page lines, and I would assume we all joined this list to help find our ancestors. Let's get past this issue and start searching for those lost Page people! Brenda Page Hare ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blyden Potts" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 6:12 PM Subject: [PAGE] PAGE-L how are rules handled? > Unless I am quite mistaken about what was perceived to be offensive, > I personally did not find that language offensive. However, I am a bit > concerned about how the whole thing is being handled. If a person has > a complaint about language, there should be guidelines about what > language the community of emailers deems inappropriate and there > should be guidelines about how to handle situations that arise. There > appears to be a process in place here, and presumably it is being > followed, which is as things should be. > > The thing that is worrysome is the rationale behind statements like this: > > > >I believe it is the first time that I have ever received anything from her > >and I don't believe that she has ever posted anything to the list in the 18 > >months that I have been on it. I have removed her email address because I > >don't want anybody to send her emails criticising her position. But given > >that George has contributed 71 items in the past 18 months I think I know > >whose contribution to the list I value the more highly. > > This suggests that a determination of whether the behavior is appropriate > or not, and the handling of it, is dependent on an estimation of the > contribution > the party in question has made to the community. Reductio ad absurdum, > this is akin to Presidential pardons for campaign contributors or not > prosecuting > a murder charge against a war hero or philanthropist. > > I would hope that differential participation of members in the mailing list > would > NOT be allowed to bias or influence enforcement of the rules, and I do not > think > it is wise to issue statements that give the impression that this is how > things > are done. > > Respectfully, > Blyden Potts > > > ==== PAGE Mailing List ==== > PAGE list website - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/lists/PAGE.htm >

Amen!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Brenda <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [PAGE] PAGE-L how are rules handled? > I personally had no problem with the language used, and I think it's time we > all move on and get past this. > > We are presumably all descendants of various Page lines, and I would assume > we all joined this list to help find our ancestors. > > Let's get past this issue and start searching for those lost Page people! > > Brenda Page Hare > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Blyden Potts" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 6:12 PM > Subject: [PAGE] PAGE-L how are rules handled? > > > > Unless I am quite mistaken about what was perceived to be offensive, > > I personally did not find that language offensive. However, I am a bit > > concerned about how the whole thing is being handled. If a person has > > a complaint about language, there should be guidelines about what > > language the community of emailers deems inappropriate and there > > should be guidelines about how to handle situations that arise. There > > appears to be a process in place here, and presumably it is being > > followed, which is as things should be. > > > > The thing that is worrysome is the rationale behind statements like this: > > > > > > >I believe it is the first time that I have ever received anything from > her > > >and I don't believe that she has ever posted anything to the list in the > 18 > > >months that I have been on it. I have removed her email address because I > > >don't want anybody to send her emails criticising her position. But given > > >that George has contributed 71 items in the past 18 months I think I know > > >whose contribution to the list I value the more highly. > > > > This suggests that a determination of whether the behavior is appropriate > > or not, and the handling of it, is dependent on an estimation of the > > contribution > > the party in question has made to the community. Reductio ad absurdum, > > this is akin to Presidential pardons for campaign contributors or not > > prosecuting > > a murder charge against a war hero or philanthropist. > > > > I would hope that differential participation of members in the mailing > list > > would > > NOT be allowed to bias or influence enforcement of the rules, and I do not > > think > > it is wise to issue statements that give the impression that this is how > > things > > are done. > > > > Respectfully, > > Blyden Potts > > > > > > ==== PAGE Mailing List ==== > > PAGE list website - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/lists/PAGE.htm > > > > > ==== PAGE Mailing List ==== > PAGE list website - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/lists/PAGE.htm > >

Having posted the following, I decided to look into the SANBORN family of MA. "I have a FEELING that your Jeremiah Page may be the son of the Benjamin Page, b. 1714 who m. Mary SANBORN. That Benjamin had an older brother named Jeremiah Page, b. Sep. 9, 1711. They were both the sons of Samuel and Hannah (Williams) Page. Samuel was b. in Hampton, NH on Mar. 3, 1673, the son of Francis and Martha (Smith) Page. Francis was b. in Ormsby, Norfolk Co., Eng. the son of Robert Page who immigrated with his family from Ormsby, Norfolk Co., Eng. to Salem, MA and then moved to Hampton, NH. [Chart #6 by CN Page, in Jan. 1918]." I found that there were indeed several PAGE-SANBORN marriages that appear to have started with the second marriage of the widow Margaret (Page) Moulton to John SANBORN in 1671. Margaret Page was b. in Ormsby, co., Norfolk, Eng., the daughter of Robert and Lucy (Ward) Page from Ormsby, Norfolk, Eng. to Salem, MA and then Hampton, NH. The New England Historical and Genealogical Register has a two-part article about the SANBORN family in Vol. 10, on pp. 271-280 and 313-321. There are several SANBORN-PAGE marriages in the article, including: Mary Sanborn, b. June 19, 1710 the dau, of Shubael SANBORN (#35), to Benjamin Page (p.277); Lydia SANBORN to John Page of Epping, NH (p. 280); Tabatha Page; Lydia Page; Sarah Page; Other PAGE-SANBORN marriages not noted in the article were: John Page - Sarah Sanborn in 1751; Reuben Page, b. 1763, - Sarah Sanborn in 1788 and lived in New Sharon, ME George W. Page

While working with the line of Thomas Page younger brother of Francis Page (as previously given by George W. Page) I encountered the William Prescott work and entered a large amount of it. It is quite possible I mixed things up while transcribing - especially since it was not my main course of research. However I'll throw it out for your consideration. The question is : Was Anna MARSHALL the second wife of Samuel PAGE b. 3 March 1670/71? Hannah Williams d. 24 Dec 1701 per William Prescott, M. D., of Concord, N. H., The Page Family by : William Prescott, M.D., (New England Historic Genealogical Society; NEHG Register, Volume 26, January, 1872), "CD-ROM," Volume 26, Page 77. According to the above source Samuel PAGE and Hannah WILLIAMS had ch. : Hannah d. in infancy in 1696; Samuel d. in infancy in 1698; and Meribah b. 1699 d.?. Hannah (Williams) PAGE d. 24 Dec 1701 and Samuel next m. Anna Marshall 18 Nov 1702. Samuel PAGE and Anna (Marshall) PAGE had ch. : Samuel; Hannah; Prudence; Elizabeth; Benjamin d. young; Soloman; Jeremiah b. 9 Sept 1711; John m. Sarah Sanborn; Benjamin; Stephen; Anna; & Simon. Hoping this doesn't confuse things too much! Bill Harvey [email protected] "George W. Page" wrote:> > Having posted the following, I decided to look into the SANBORN family of MA. > "I have a FEELING that your Jeremiah Page may be the son of the Benjamin > Page, b. 1714 who m. Mary SANBORN. That Benjamin had an older brother named > Jeremiah Page, b. Sep. 9, 1711. They were both the sons of Samuel and > Hannah (Williams) Page. Samuel was b. in Hampton, NH on Mar. 3, 1673, the > son of Francis and Martha (Smith) Page. Francis was b. in Ormsby, Norfolk > Co., Eng. the son of Robert Page who immigrated with his family from > Ormsby, Norfolk Co., Eng. to Salem, MA and then moved to Hampton, NH. > [Chart #6 by CN Page, in Jan. 1918]." > > I found that there were indeed several PAGE-SANBORN marriages that appear > to have started with the second marriage of the widow Margaret (Page) Moulton > to John SANBORN in 1671. Margaret Page was b. in Ormsby, co., Norfolk, > Eng., the daughter of Robert and Lucy (Ward) Page from Ormsby, Norfolk, > Eng. to Salem, MA and then Hampton, NH. > > The New England Historical and Genealogical Register has a two-part article > about the SANBORN family in Vol. 10, on pp. 271-280 and 313-321. > There are several SANBORN-PAGE marriages in the article, including: > Mary Sanborn, b. June 19, 1710 the dau, of Shubael SANBORN (#35), to > Benjamin Page (p.277); > Lydia SANBORN to John Page of Epping, NH (p. 280); > Tabatha Page; > Lydia Page; > Sarah Page; > > Other PAGE-SANBORN marriages not noted in the article were: > John Page - Sarah Sanborn in 1751; > Reuben Page, b. 1763, - Sarah Sanborn in 1788 and lived in New Sharon, ME > > George W. Page > > ==== PAGE Mailing List ==== > PAGE list website - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/lists/PAGE.htm

At 10:14 AM 1/23/2001 -0500, [email protected] wrote: >I have been reading all the latest mail re Page surname and hopefully >as it is so active again, someone can help. I am still looking for the birth >place and parents of Jeremiah Page, born abt 1736 in England [it is >believed]. His father may be Benjamin Page, but this is not proven, most who >have done research on him have hit a brick wall on this. Jeremiah was married >to Polly Ames and lived in New London, CT, prior to relocating to Columbus, >Chenango Co. NY,abt 1797. > Any information or leads would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Fred Have you tried to contact Jay Allen Peterson, 5120 West Pavant Ave., West Valley City, UT 85120-2826 who submitted info about their family to the LDS Church? He states that Jeremiah Page was b. in Ormsby, Norfolk, Eng., the son of Benjamin Page. I have a FEELING that your Jeremiah Page may be the son of the Benjamin Page, b. 1714 who m. Mary Sanborn. That Benjamin had an older brother named Jeremiah Page, b. Sep. 9, 1711. They were both the sons of Samuel and Hannah (Williams) Page. Samuel was b. in Hampton, NH on Mar. 3, 1673, the son of Francis and Martha (Smith) Page. Francis was b. in Ormsby, Norfolk Co., Eng. the son of Robert Page who immigrated with his family from Ormsby, Norfolk Co., Eng. to Salem, MA and then moved to Hampton, NH. [Chart #6 by CN Page, in Jan. 1918]. George W. Page

The Page-Nelson Society has been working on that project for some time. I suggest people interested in that line of PAGEs contact the society directly. Page-Nelson Society, PO Box 358, Warrington, VA 20188-0358; [or Cecil Wray Page, Jr., P.O. Box 396, Gloucester, VA 23061-0396]. George W. Page ___________ At 10:56 AM 1/23/2001 -0500, [email protected] wrote: >Pat- > >he R.C.M. Page books were not that much help to me. They are full of >mistakes and do not go past the 1890s. But you may be lucky and find what >you need. > >As with you, I was hoping that someone has brought that descendancy more >up to date. If you find anything more up to date , plase let me know. > >Thanks, > >Dick Hamly

I am trying to connect Mary Page that married John Atkinson c 31 Oct 1768 in or near Philadelphia, PA she is listed as of Blockley; now a ward of Philadelphia, PA. Richard Lyle Pettitt

I have been reading all the latest mail re Page surname and hopefully as it is so active again, someone can help. I am still looking for the birth place and parents of Jeremiah Page, born abt 1736 in England [it is believed]. His father may be Benjamin Page, but this is not proven, most who have done research on him have hit a brick wall on this. Jeremiah was married to Polly Ames and lived in New London, CT, prior to relocating to Columbus, Chenango Co. NY,abt 1797. Any information or leads would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Fred

Does anyone know of any information regarding a John KELLER Page listed on the passenger list of the 1903 CELTIC from Liverpool England to New York Aug. 15 1903? I am looking for a John ALEXANDER Page who may have arrived from Ireland around that time to settle in Toronto Canada around 1910. Wondering if perhaps the transcripts could have been copied incorrectly or the writing not very legible. Has anyone else ever found errors on these lists? Thanks Jackie

Gov. John Page's descendants are listed and described in Dr. R.C.M. Page's, "Genealogy of the Page Family in Virginia ...," First Edition, 1893, Second Edition printed in 1972. Reprints available from Higginson Books. http://www.higginsonbooks.com/p.htm "PAGE. Genealogy of the Page family in Va., also a condensed acct. of the Nelson, Walker, Pendleton & Randolph families with references to other distinguished families in Va., by R.C.M. Page, 275p. 2nd ed., 1893. $45.00" At 03:23 PM 1/22/2001 -0500, [email protected] wrote: >Does anyone have a gedcom (or document) listing descendents (and siblings) Of >Governor Page? > >Perhaps if I start there and work my way down I might be able to piece >together the info I need. > >Thanks. >Pat

Does anyone have a gedcom (or document) listing descendents (and siblings) Of Governor Page? Perhaps if I start there and work my way down I might be able to piece together the info I need. Thanks. Pat

My Page relatives from CT and Oneida Co., NY were living in Nunda, Livingston, Co., NY at the time of the 1870 Federal Census. There were two other PAGEs indexed in that census who were living in that town who do not appear to be related, and I wonder if anyone can identify them: J.W. Page, age 60, b. in VT, appears on p. 355; Reuben Page, age 23, b. in VT, appears on p. 343. George W. Page

Wondering if anyone can help me out. Looking for information on Charles L Page born in New Hampshire in about 1820 and married Mary Sinclair (born approx. 5/20/1820 in New Hampshire)on 3/20/1841. Charles and Mary Sinclair Page were living in Merideth Village, NH before moving to Winona, MN in 1854 with five children. Four more children were born in Winona, MN. Charles L. Page died when their youngest child, Edwin was 10 months old. Believe Charles is buried in St. Charles, MN. Charles was a Quaker minister and a farmer. Mary Sinclair Page moved with her children to a small town in Linn County, then known as Western. They lived at this place until the youngest child was 12 years of age and this date was August, 1876. For a few years, Mary and the youngest son, Edwin lived in Ida Grove and then started farming northeast of town. After farming a number of years, they moved to Arthur, where Edwin was employed in the general store of John Love.  In the early 1890’s, Edwin started in the general merchandising business in Arthur. The children to Charles and Mary: 1.  George R. Page 7/11/1842 to 2/10/1926.  Born in Dover,Massachusetts.  The 1865 MN state census listed as a solder in service on 6/1/1865. He is described as   5’7”,light complexion, blue eyes, light brown hair. Died possibly in San Jose, CA.  Married to ?.  His wife died before 1899.  George live in MN and WI mostly, ? later CA.  Two known children:  George E. and Emma T. Page. 2. MaryAnn Page 5/26/1846 to 9/20/1922. Married David Peck and had 12 children: George, Charles, Eva, Cordilla, Marybelle, Bertha, William, Nellie, Rosa, Anna, Jessie, and Floyd. Mary and David Peck are buried in Sioux City, IA. 3. Charles Wesley Page  born about 1848.  Married before 1874.  He married Savannah Farrier, James T.Farrier’s sister. 4. Sarah L Page 4/21/1850 to 3/13/1942.  Married 9/23/1866 to James T. Farrier. 5. John Page born about 1855. 6. Betsey C Page born about 1857. 7. Andrew Page born about 1859.  Died before 1865. 8. Cami Page born after 1860 and before 1864. 9. Edwin Page 3/5/1864 to 4/29/1943.  Married Emma L. Shoop.  She died 2/17/1938.  Both are buried in Ida Grove Cemetery in Ida Grove, IA. Any information anyone has would be greatly appreicated. Robin