Carolyn: This is very interesting. I was on contact sometime ago with a lady who said there were TWO Martha Beatty's which makes sense as the Elizabeth Campbell Crooks dau.Robert & Martha (Beatty) Crooks wasn't born until 1833. What also makes all of this interesting is my attempting to find out more about the relationship of Joseph Crunkleton (my 8th grandfather) and Jacob Snively, James Roddy and James Johnston. This Summer I did a cluster search of Antrim Co., N.Ireland in the 1660 Hearth and Tax Roll and found the following families living within a 2 mile radius of each other. They were Crooks, Dunwoodies, Moorehead, Beatty and McClure. My Crooks were specifically at Ahoghill, Glagorm Estate, Antrim. This was a Dr. Alexander Colville estate and I just found out that PRONI has specific records of the tenants. My researcher in Belfast has been given the specific info. and will do a search for me in about two weeks. I am related to all of these families thru marriages in Franklin Co. Does anyone know who Elizabeth Campbell Crooks married? All I have is her birth date which is listed in my bible. Gordon Crooks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn K. Shearer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 10:26 AM Subject: [PAFRANKL] Campbell, Beatty & Johnston > Don't know if or how this may be connected but will throw it in here for > possible clues: > > William Beatty (1738-1802 Antrim Twp) married Mary Johnston (1746-1817) > daughter of James Johnston and Mary Brown Findley, pioneers of Antrim twp > (From American Revolutionary Soldiers of Franklin Co and Franklin Co will > abstracts). William and Mary had a son John, born c1770, who married > Elizabeth Campbell, born c1775 'near Mercersburg'. Elizabeth Campbell was > the daughter of Dugal Campbell (d Jan 1777 Camden NJ in the Rev War) and > his > wife Martha Johnston, (c1751-p1808) sister of Mary. > Thomas Johnston (1744-1819 Antrim), also a child of James Johnston Sr and > Mary Brown Findley, married Martha Beatty ( p1740- 1819 Antrim twp). > > William Beatty was the son of Henry Beatty who died 1771-1772 in Antrim > Twp, > wife Catherine, and children William, James, Walter, John, Henry, > Elizabeth > and Margaret according to the abstract by F. Edward Wright. I believe > that > this daughter Margaret MAY be a transcription error for Martha as James > Johnston and Thomas Johnston were the witnesses to the will. (Cumberland > Co > Will book B, pp 128-9.) > > This is all rather confusing with the cousins intermarrying, but it helps > if > you chart it out. > > Note: Dugal Campbell was the son of William Campbell, Sr (died 1783 Peters > Twp) and his wife Francis. One of my husband's direct Campbell lines is > William Campbell Jr (c1803 Fannett Twp) who married Hannah Young in 1766. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "gordon crooks" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 7:19 AM > Subject: [PAFRANKL] Campbell's > > >> After reading all of the Campbell msgs. it made me think. Who were the >> Campbell's? I have never run across their name before. In my earlier msg. >> I mentioned Elizabeth Campell Crooks, this was the only one of my Robert >> Crooks children who was given a middle name. There must be some >> association with Martha Beatty Crooks perhaps her mother's line. >> >> Gordon Crooks >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: >> 10/14/2006 >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >
Gordon Sorry, have no idea who Elizabeth Campbell Crooks married. If you have a full date of birth AND know where her parents are buried you could try scanning the cemetery records to see if you can find an Elizabeth with a matching birth date. Were the family Presbyterians? There are some Presbyterian marriage records in Mercersburg and Greencastle that might be of help. [Note: Where did your Elizabeth live? Could only find one in the 1850 census of Franklin. She is in Mercersburg, but her age is given as 22. ----- Original Message ----- From: "gordon crooks" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Campbell, Beatty & Johnston > Carolyn: This is very interesting. I was on contact sometime ago with a > lady > who said there were TWO Martha Beatty's which makes sense as the Elizabeth > Campbell Crooks dau.Robert & Martha (Beatty) Crooks wasn't born until > 1833. > What also makes all of this interesting is my attempting to find out more > about the relationship of Joseph Crunkleton (my 8th grandfather) and Jacob > Snively, James Roddy and James Johnston. This Summer I did a cluster > search > of Antrim Co., N.Ireland in the 1660 Hearth and Tax Roll and found the > following families living within a 2 mile radius of each other. They were > Crooks, Dunwoodies, Moorehead, Beatty and McClure. My Crooks were > specifically at Ahoghill, Glagorm Estate, Antrim. This was a Dr. Alexander > Colville estate and I just found out that PRONI has specific records of > the > tenants. My researcher in Belfast has been given the specific info. and > will > do a search for me in about two weeks. I am related to all of these > families > thru marriages in Franklin Co. > Does anyone know who Elizabeth Campbell Crooks married? All I have is her > birth date which is listed in my bible. > > Gordon Crooks > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carolyn K. Shearer" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 10:26 AM > Subject: [PAFRANKL] Campbell, Beatty & Johnston > > >> Don't know if or how this may be connected but will throw it in here for >> possible clues: >> >> William Beatty (1738-1802 Antrim Twp) married Mary Johnston (1746-1817) >> daughter of James Johnston and Mary Brown Findley, pioneers of Antrim twp >> (From American Revolutionary Soldiers of Franklin Co and Franklin Co will >> abstracts). William and Mary had a son John, born c1770, who married >> Elizabeth Campbell, born c1775 'near Mercersburg'. Elizabeth Campbell >> was >> the daughter of Dugal Campbell (d Jan 1777 Camden NJ in the Rev War) and >> his >> wife Martha Johnston, (c1751-p1808) sister of Mary. >> Thomas Johnston (1744-1819 Antrim), also a child of James Johnston Sr >> and >> Mary Brown Findley, married Martha Beatty ( p1740- 1819 Antrim twp). >> >> William Beatty was the son of Henry Beatty who died 1771-1772 in Antrim >> Twp, >> wife Catherine, and children William, James, Walter, John, Henry, >> Elizabeth >> and Margaret according to the abstract by F. Edward Wright. I believe >> that >> this daughter Margaret MAY be a transcription error for Martha as James >> Johnston and Thomas Johnston were the witnesses to the will. (Cumberland >> Co >> Will book B, pp 128-9.) >> >> This is all rather confusing with the cousins intermarrying, but it helps >> if >> you chart it out. >> >> Note: Dugal Campbell was the son of William Campbell, Sr (died 1783 >> Peters >> Twp) and his wife Francis. One of my husband's direct Campbell lines is >> William Campbell Jr (c1803 Fannett Twp) who married Hannah Young in 1766. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "gordon crooks" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 7:19 AM >> Subject: [PAFRANKL] Campbell's >> >> >>> After reading all of the Campbell msgs. it made me think. Who were the >>> Campbell's? I have never run across their name before. In my earlier >>> msg. >>> I mentioned Elizabeth Campell Crooks, this was the only one of my Robert >>> Crooks children who was given a middle name. There must be some >>> association with Martha Beatty Crooks perhaps her mother's line. >>> >>> Gordon Crooks >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: >>> 10/14/2006 >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 10/14/2006 > >
Carolyn: No this is not her, but you hit on something I have been trying to trace out. John Crooks who was the 3rd son of Robert Crooks and Rebecca Moorehead Crooks, he lived in Mercersburg and is buried in the old Seceder Cemetery there, BUT there is a conflicr here my bible says he left a wife and 3 sons living when he died at age 36 on Nov. 4, 1838. Unless his widow was pregant. I have yet to find any trace of them in Mercersburg. In answer to your question yes they were originally Presbyterian Convenanters, however James Crooks was a founder and trustee of the Associate Reformed Church in Greencastle, his son Robert was also a member of this church and the later merger with the present day Greencastle Presbyterian Church. Your other question as to where Elizabeth lived. The original settler farms in Prices Church Road, Washington Twp.(Waynesboro) remained in the family until 1865 when Robert and his brother William Sold them to Henry C. Price. There are several references to Robert being in Greencastle, the Church & Karl's drugstore to name a few so he might have actually lived in Greencastle at one time or another. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn K. Shearer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Campbell, Beatty & Johnston > Gordon Sorry, have no idea who Elizabeth Campbell Crooks married. If you > have a full date of birth AND know where her parents are buried you could > try scanning the cemetery records to see if you can find an Elizabeth with > a > matching birth date. > > Were the family Presbyterians? There are some Presbyterian marriage > records > in Mercersburg and Greencastle that might be of help. [Note: Where did > your > Elizabeth live? Could only find one in the 1850 census of Franklin. She > is > in Mercersburg, but her age is given as 22. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "gordon crooks" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Cc: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 12:56 PM > Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Campbell, Beatty & Johnston > > >> Carolyn: This is very interesting. I was on contact sometime ago with a >> lady >> who said there were TWO Martha Beatty's which makes sense as the >> Elizabeth >> Campbell Crooks dau.Robert & Martha (Beatty) Crooks wasn't born until >> 1833. >> What also makes all of this interesting is my attempting to find out more >> about the relationship of Joseph Crunkleton (my 8th grandfather) and >> Jacob >> Snively, James Roddy and James Johnston. This Summer I did a cluster >> search >> of Antrim Co., N.Ireland in the 1660 Hearth and Tax Roll and found the >> following families living within a 2 mile radius of each other. They were >> Crooks, Dunwoodies, Moorehead, Beatty and McClure. My Crooks were >> specifically at Ahoghill, Glagorm Estate, Antrim. This was a Dr. >> Alexander >> Colville estate and I just found out that PRONI has specific records of >> the >> tenants. My researcher in Belfast has been given the specific info. and >> will >> do a search for me in about two weeks. I am related to all of these >> families >> thru marriages in Franklin Co. >> Does anyone know who Elizabeth Campbell Crooks married? All I have is her >> birth date which is listed in my bible. >> >> Gordon Crooks >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Carolyn K. Shearer" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 10:26 AM >> Subject: [PAFRANKL] Campbell, Beatty & Johnston >> >> >>> Don't know if or how this may be connected but will throw it in here for >>> possible clues: >>> >>> William Beatty (1738-1802 Antrim Twp) married Mary Johnston (1746-1817) >>> daughter of James Johnston and Mary Brown Findley, pioneers of Antrim >>> twp >>> (From American Revolutionary Soldiers of Franklin Co and Franklin Co >>> will >>> abstracts). William and Mary had a son John, born c1770, who married >>> Elizabeth Campbell, born c1775 'near Mercersburg'. Elizabeth Campbell >>> was >>> the daughter of Dugal Campbell (d Jan 1777 Camden NJ in the Rev War) and >>> his >>> wife Martha Johnston, (c1751-p1808) sister of Mary. >>> Thomas Johnston (1744-1819 Antrim), also a child of James Johnston Sr >>> and >>> Mary Brown Findley, married Martha Beatty ( p1740- 1819 Antrim twp). >>> >>> William Beatty was the son of Henry Beatty who died 1771-1772 in Antrim >>> Twp, >>> wife Catherine, and children William, James, Walter, John, Henry, >>> Elizabeth >>> and Margaret according to the abstract by F. Edward Wright. I believe >>> that >>> this daughter Margaret MAY be a transcription error for Martha as James >>> Johnston and Thomas Johnston were the witnesses to the will. >>> (Cumberland >>> Co >>> Will book B, pp 128-9.) >>> >>> This is all rather confusing with the cousins intermarrying, but it >>> helps >>> if >>> you chart it out. >>> >>> Note: Dugal Campbell was the son of William Campbell, Sr (died 1783 >>> Peters >>> Twp) and his wife Francis. One of my husband's direct Campbell lines >>> is >>> William Campbell Jr (c1803 Fannett Twp) who married Hannah Young in >>> 1766. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "gordon crooks" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 7:19 AM >>> Subject: [PAFRANKL] Campbell's >>> >>> >>>> After reading all of the Campbell msgs. it made me think. Who were the >>>> Campbell's? I have never run across their name before. In my earlier >>>> msg. >>>> I mentioned Elizabeth Campell Crooks, this was the only one of my >>>> Robert >>>> Crooks children who was given a middle name. There must be some >>>> association with Martha Beatty Crooks perhaps her mother's line. >>>> >>>> Gordon Crooks >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>> Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: >>>> 10/14/2006 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: >> 10/14/2006 >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >